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no cap no od
no svg
no ephy
i think id watch more dota if the shoutcasting wasnt so unbelievably dogshit every time
CAP answered a thread recently. Think him and svg started something new? And i guess its easier for organisers to just get a studio i dunno
But i dunno getting cringe csgo banks instead 
Has sajedene even done desk? Who is nattea
Also moxi getting destroyed on reddit 
yeah sorry but like
even cap and svg not being used to each other
is gonna be a better cast
then the other 5 duos they have
let alone that cap can easily be the host of the event
but i guess he doesnt have boobs so
need female host these days
sunsfan without synderen 
sunsfan is good fun when he casts with synderen, but he becomes shackled/stunned irl when casting with someone he cant flame openly
ye
sunsfan has pretty good chemistry with several people, he and lacoste work well together
make sense lacoste is a full time meme
Yeah I don't love lacoste as a caster because of how memey he is, but lots of casters are very memey
It seems to me that Valve's greater organization in the form of the DPC has created a deeper bench of casters which in turn makes fewer no-brainer invites
idk, i just cant listen to half of the duos
rarely calling out misplays, instead everything is hailed as great play by hte other team
even when 2 supports are just completely out of position and miss all their spells
"GREAT PLAY BY SUMAIL"
when the nyx fails 2 stuns on him
never seen a ta lose
think you could just replace the TA with any carry in this game
its the bounty vision and mars who make the game
naa ta is op
her farming speed is insane imo
farms fast
thats like
ye
the main difference
also noone rly wants to go halberd on rng
has too much range anyway
if you get into halberd castrange against TA
odds are you die for it
she just gets so much early dmg and farms so fast
but still
this game was really just won by bh+mars combo
TA has completely free reign because of that
rng cant get a fight on their terms
against bounty
perhaps just in general, secure roshan, gains map controll and got global with stupid tp
i think her ability to basically secure rosh ~10minutes faster than any other hero of the same position makes the hero very powerful
there is ursa too
yeah but ursa needs sustained uptime on rosh
so he forces himself in a bad spot where you can go on him pretty easily
TA can just weave in and out
at least pushs fave host is handling this masters
avo+
i mean he is a better host
than he is interviewer
which doesnt say much
but its something
wtf is avo doing
what did he do
throwing his arms around I feel like hes going to punch me through the screen
bo3 finals, lame

entire event is lame
no double elim etc.
its sad that the prize money is so big
that no team declined to go
oil money
instead supporting the terrorism funding oilers in their money laundering schemes
ive only watched a few games today
I think somebody told avo he was too still
the content of his cast isnt even that bad. i just cant listen to him cause the way he speaks with his random inflections and constant breaks mid-sentence just throw me off completely
so now he swings his arms around wildly and its so weird
nah avo has always been like that
i remember his very first event when he was doing losers interviews
he had the same mannerisms
but yeah idk its like
i honestly miss the old casting duos
feels liek dota casting quality has stagnated/declined over the last 3-5years, to the point where people are clamoring for odpixel casts, and he used to barely be a top3 caster
I dont know if I have a preference
sunsfan/synd unironically the best duo atm
yeah its like
most color casters feel like they need to stand out somehow
or mimic ODs hyperspeed casting that is just loud and people can barely follow
its the same reason why that guy that drew Z has good career
because people in esports dont have moral spine
who is this finals caster with black
ill never cheer for a chinese team
sick fight
why not?
LGD has been playing so fucking well for like 5years now
really sad that they never managed to grab an aegis
idk. as a neutral, russians are always homies
Was graphics wrong and it was first game?
Maybe spec bug from gorps strim cus was no dot on official 
Ye thats why i was confused when they just walked of when i thought it was 1-0 alrdy 
same p1 from spirit
its a strong lane
the pango with his 11min diffu just kinda rolled through the midgame
they did well on lane but lgd responded well
and allowed the LD to come back
I swear people always hype luna as the uber late game carry
but I always see it lose
problem is that luna alone doesnt do enough
luna only works in a team
compared to smth like sven or alch that can just run down entire teams by themselves
BO3 cringe
well played by lgd
gg
LGD on a different level this tournament for sure
all the games they lost they just had wonky drafts and seemed to be clowning in a game2
and then got their shit together for game3
When you're trying to get a solo kill mid and accidentally help the side lanes
the fact they all got denied for a B1 visa makes me wonder why the fuck theyre not using the P1 vise process for esports/athletes
and if this is actually the cause
500k sounds like a low prizepool for a major
especially when they stole so much money with missed ti's and shit 
Psure its not on Valve, but the TO
In this case PGL
They are the ones registering the event with the authorities, not Valve
"Dota is just a weird game, you can do a million things and.. anything can work.. so"
lmao

iceiceice kicked
not suprising
they dont care about their 5 dpc points they gathered
smart choice to do big changes actually
go big or go home
ye but what team will topson play with
I dont even know if he has the level to get back into competition
doesnt he stream everyday playing pub? cant have dropped much
he has tested a lot of stuff
but high mmr isnt representative of actual pro level
so Im wondering
interesting if he form new team with rejects for open qual or join someone invite to closed or w/e
lol all but moonmeander standing in at the major
from tsm
he should join alliance

are there even open quals for ti
idfk
isnt there lots of wildcard slots
12 dpc slots
there is some last chance qualifier
page doesnt exist
but it looks like there is 2 more slots?
last ti there was 18 teams now its 20 combined
top 8 team from each region which didnt qualify to ti plays for 3 slots (1 direct invite for ti and 2 slots 'last chance qualifier')
should exist open quals to regional quals or thats how it has been before
trying to understand this is pointless anyway
they will mid circuit change rules
like they did with tiebreakers some time ago

needed more viewership monies 
I thought arlington was in australia or NZ
no arlington is somewhere in usa
when is the tourney starting?
first 4 at 17
time for liquid to bomb out of another tournament
oh ana standin for rng
mercenary
can see him teaming up with topson for a run to ti
he been palying 2 latest big tourneys
tsm > og 
are there multiple games played at the same time?
I was half watching the liquid QC game
4, ye
ammar actually drafting or coach 
group stage is a clown fiesta anyway
during 3rd phase of dpc season he has been picked
picked yes but not meta
think its mostly a "easy enemy, lets show some weird picks to make peoples prep harder"
yeh its the kind of hero that can turn into a piñata real quick
yeah definitely
esp when its played as a core
like both teams did
hard to stay on top of the game
kinda cool thing they did in their last fight
they had matu run around, soaking up dmg
as LD
get eaten by pudge when he was low
and his bear still works
Can someone upgrade the obs's computer, every vac+wall turns into a slideshow
He and boboka are carrying hard
ye
the chinese ES players are kinda nuts atm
xingq ES is everywhere on the map
how is that razor perma hasted?
even without spiderlegs on use
how did EG qualify for the major?
oh its the talent
I havent seen them win a single game in ages
21 ms is fun too
tbh
youj actually have perma haste
but yea you fifgured it out

EG looked good at the end of the NA quals, rolled through QC to win NA
But they are super dependent on winning lanes
Curious if other teams will try the Aster approach of going after Nightfall
idk
EG still seems to be defeating themselves
doing the same drafts for 5years
and its just not working
fear was talking about how rtz likes bulba and likes his drafts
QC is a dog tier team
Zai venge 
yeah venge is just obnoxious to play into
but the hero also doesnt do all that much if your game is going badly
its just a good support when youre winning but a mediocre one when youre already losing
also not that great on lane
hahahaha
matu
eg showing their progress at least
Lul
Ye
ww should lose like all lanes
1v1
46 base dmg
meanwhile every other hero in the game has 60 nowadays
Dunno if og have an answer to that early lgd aggression
They really need those stacks
they dont care rly
they are just playing on bristle timer
and defend towers with kotl/viper
If they lose the stacks they'll have an issue
lgd needs to bring 5to farm the stacks
faith bian/nothing to say are actually best players by far in lgd i feel like
nts wins lanes he has no business doing ok in
Ye
and he didnt even get rotations
It's like maybe
they just responded to og bringing people to mid
Lgd plays really damn well together in early
I've watched some games from enemy pov
And like, it always looks like they go on you 2v1 or 2v2
But then within seconds they're 4 or 5
i was expecting ww to be rly shut down
but if ww gets fast aghs
bristle cant play this game
That bristle is gonna get hard kited i feel
Sprout, shards, slows
Ye he died once from rotating, didn't even need to put a point in heal
thats a rly bad fight to lose
No jugg
Ye
ww should be playing more greedy i think
play for his farm
coz ww aghs is stupid op
actually their wincon
more than jugg i think
Nts just falling behind in farm too much i think
He'll get fissured and then the ember just jumps on you
OG might feel a bit too comfortable atm
cause the jugg basically didnt participate in the game at all
gotta take down heroes else the come back with full hp 5sec later
cause ench/healing ward/cold embrace
man what a messy fight from LGD
having to use 3 buybacks for the rosh
still worth but man
its worth
its big mistake from og to not have buys
coz they couldve ended the game
if they did
yeah i think so too
also if ww had juggs networth this game is over
i think lgd cant lose it anymore
too late into the game/og not enough advantage
when ww get perma arctic 
good game tho
OG just a few misplays
wasting their aegis
was the big L imo
if they stack up properly and run down the t2s, LGD has no way to defend against that
and then they can just starve them out for 10-15min
tactical DD again

holy fuck
those ice shards
but imo a bit of panic there as well, not using sleight to gain some invulnerability
prophet trolling
best prophet ive seen in a while
good itemization
and didnt just do the "im bulldog ill splitpush" cause he realized that the OG draft will ruin his game
spent first 20mins doing his thing, then he dies once to ember+kotl with shard and then he just stops
jugg is just so satisfying when he works
god blacks mic
they should at least send the talent some good gear if they cast from home
OG did well though
just felt like bzm had no impact this game
dying solo to a hero he should never die to
and then he died a few times to very predictable rotations
talon-outsiders game pretty crazy
feels like
OG had better draft both games
yet somehow im guessing this will be a 2-0 for lgd
LGD wins stuff they shouldnt be winning
LGD good
they just need to get a mental coach for throwing finals
pos4 shaker lv6 before min10
that was so well played by ame
ye was big yuke of 4 ppl
5 man
whenever you meet someone from LGD, you know theres like 2+ people in close proximity
they didnt even play very aggressive this game. mostly just reacted to what OG was doing, and always had an answer
also why do misha+og coach always have visa issues or w/e while all other ruskis can come
criminals 
how do he just walk away from 5 heroes
because of shakira
cause they didnt wanna commit more skills on a shaker that already used echo
they already used solo coil
if they doom him there as well, they kill the shaker and just get wiped after
how long does this tournament last
is it all the way to the next weekend?
wish there were earlier games I could watch during work 
unlucky timezone
not a fan of doom pos1
was huskar
doom is 3
think if ame doesnt back out there
with his aegis
they can fight that
2v5

ye if he baited for the echo and xinq didnt try to snipe puck
cant wait to see eg lose
same
pgl production
1st 20 standins
now 20 fps
the only reason they get majors is noone else wants them
coz you have to cooperate with valve
they have let black cast for 2 days with the worst mic in history also
doesnt even try to fix it
they did some awful csgo majors too
the one in stockholm i think was awful
the last one was ok
sprit crazy plays
lmao eg

eg brings the game back from pits of despair
to just throw it so hardcore

puck keeps getting caught by doom
should have picked storm spirit

won 1 fight no bb from spirit 
spirit 
lol
just a matter of time before this eg powerhouse showed up to win the tourney 
its on the same level of ee sama losing to no tp scroll
so they first pick puck for abed whole tourney this time?
he plays only blue heroes
love me some ho ho ha ha
what made sniper so op that patch was it only 3x shrapnel cant remember
which patch
you mean now?
or hoho haha patch
if hohohaha then yea shrapnels 3 stacks and insane dmg + insane vision
ye hohohaha time
ye shrapnels
his laning was absurd
you would press 1 shrapnel and chain it on one guy
and you killed everyone 1v1
was so obnoxious
and it gave much bigger vision too

i think this is one of the most hated patches to ever exist in dota
collapse is hating his life
true, i however think this will make them think this is a good fraft and it will backfire
them qualifying from weakest region is whats fucking them
coz they wont do drastic changes
they would if they wouldnt qualify for ti for basically free
look at secret
at least they had to do something about them shitting the bed vs any decent team
meanwhile they win single game vs tsm or qc and just qualify for major into basically securing ti slot
yeah its also why cn teams almost always show up strong to events
and then falter towards the end
they have basically qualed to ti just by being #1 in the 3 na dpc's
then some free points from major at that
surprised that some other teams arent just going there for free qual
like the PSG of dota
play in a rat domestic league and get spanked in UCL
.
where is sheepsticked from, liquipedia says UK but I cant place the accent
sounds like mild irish
could be northern ireland?
the individual stream works
fnatic v lgd
is pretty pog
they have no business winning these lanes or games
but they do

team spirit play
always impressed by their target selection in teamfights
seems like they always know how many and which heroes they need to take down 1 core each
and they split up the fights that way
they power through
i think playing into team like that is just hartd
cant really prepare well
3 standins
thats just such a wildcard
i just wonder how will lgd manage to fuck it up on ti and somehow lose

tide ta

liquid actually looking like they can win
w/e lgd just gonna bring it back
how
do they keep doing this
like
this game looked fucking over
but yeah
minus armor strat stronk
great positioning there as well
jumps behind the LD with TA
so he cant fear both
they're getting farmed on vision game
so cant take good teamfights
ame choked
or wtgf
he couldve blinked
100%
they didnt preplace dawnbreaker ability
lgd vision game is always super good
its something i learned from them
to just drop a highground ward
from smoke
or the moment smoke breaks
ye
thats biggest thing you can always do
deward/ward yourself
fighting under vision is impossible
hoodwink is so dumb
how does that reach the ench
??
dunno
it has a little bit of auto adjust at the end
where it curves
lmao
okay

roasted
rofl
huddled real good for ravage+kiss
they all ined
didnt work out
how its gonna go
i had solo queue game yday that went same
enemy team all ined me twice and failed coz i lived on 20 hp
insta lost game 
@vital pollen

lgd magnus ptsd intensifies
god
this shaker play
sublime
first the block in the roshpit
and then the juke and second fissure block
think xinq is the only es to actually go blink before shard in both his games, everyone else goes shard first on shaker iirc. and hes the only one actually winning games on the hero
ye and they were still no high from drafts/strats from old rosters
on high*
so they did pretty well
top 3 or top 4 dont remember
that happens all the time in csgo teams
they remove ingame leader for example
and do rly well coz usually ingame leader is kinda bad mechanically/doesnt frag
they take much more skilled player
I havent watched cs in a while
plug him into old igl system
and they do rly well for 2-3 months
coz old system is still working
just with a bit better skilled player
I was rooting for faze
and then they tank ultra hard
that happens quite a bit in csgo
used to happen* i guess
i dont rly follow as much anymore either
but doesnt matter, same phenomenon

ye
hes an ass but boy does he understand dota
tbh i can see why they do it
i wont rly blame a team even tho they do well
that they want to upgrade
yeah
its just the typical "oh we can probably do better" and you dont notice how useful that player was until theyre gone
yea
i guess he was doing more than they thought
we had a lot of teams like that
or was given credit for
i just see it happening in cs a lot more
ye i always say
cause theyre just not the most mechanically gifted players
that ceb is best player in entire game to bring into any team
the things he does outside of the game
almsot noone does it
but new patch comes or new meta and you need their game sense and its just not there
actually most valuable player to have in roster
hence players like puppey always find success
ye
very charismatic
or xiao8
leaders
ppd 
misery probably
ye
moonmeander grows as one now too
is maelk still some esport mogul
no idea
idk what happened with maelk
wasnt he running some LOL org
VP of 100thieves
they mostly have egirls and winning in call of duty or some other murican console games it looks like
also not mentioning
he joined joindota
oh ye kuro obviously
goated
resolution as well
also if s4 went coach would prolly be insane for some team
s4Head
i have no opinion on s4 right now
has too weak tournament performances for past literally 3 years
to take him seriously/his opinions
when he cocasts with gorgc
idk
well his skill has just deteriorated and he refuse to go to support like other oldies or go coach
kuro plays so dogshit too
doesnt play any pubs
-kuro +saksa and kuro goes coach

and then you get no stun lineups
all thee time

ye
lmao

there is cis player that is called torontotokyo too
torontotokyo*
so you know
different breed
idk if he's ukrainian or russian
ukrainian i tihnk
russian actually
well thats not the same thing
nigma inst in this major is it
in korea/china its fairly popular for pro players to have random nicknames in english and its words they liked in english
so korean players in sc1 have nicknames like flash
or snow
because they just heard the words and they liked them
isnt that all nicknames almost
yeah but swedenstrong feels way to random
maybe he is reincarnated from when sweden ruled europe
and puck banned what will bulba do
storm?
void spirit probably
2nd best mid probably
if puck gets nerfed void spirit is beyond best mid laner
which it probably will
since its 1st pick/1st banned all the time
marci/dawn/puck are always picked/banned i feel like
in pubs too
new heroes, me not like
im trying to think what was the last hero added when I last played
I think monkey king
I dont know what dark willow does
dark willow is 4
im at least kinda familiar with the other new heroes but dark willow I have no clue what her abilities are
kinda similar with hoodwink and marci, I just know she jumps around
primal beast not in cm
is that the starcraft crossover
hoodwink is rly strong 1v1 hero
ye
coconut too stronk
just trades too well
if you try to fight him
and has great animation
actually
i heard that tundra wanted to do -sneyking +saksa
but fata didnt agree
so they ended up kicking fata and getting saksa
and sneyking 5
lmao
so -sneyking +fata now? 
weird cuz sneyking is
super overrated
always felt he was bad
since first NA appearance
fata used to be mid, right?
ye
ah lol visage got stone form on hero now with shard
faceless void
oh
watching fnatic vs liquid
allows you to timewalk back
and increases castrange as well, which is probably hte more important one
it used to be aoe bash on q right?
thats the aghs upgrade
right
when you timewalk somewhere you just bash in aoe
or rather
meleehit in aoe with a guaranteed bash
yea I havent played since talents have been in
somehow im not sure if quincy crew is even ahead
despite them killing nts like 4times
13-5 and 1tower ahead and not even 1k gold advantage
this is a weird game
feels like lgd just doesnt care that they keep ganking their zeus
or that they take rosh
LGD somehow never fall behind
and always keep up somehow
theyll just do one teamfight
and somehow win it like
1-4
quincy basically overrating every time
every kill
pos1 weaver, interesting
they bring 3 or 4 people and LGD just says "sure, take it, we got 4 heroes farming in the meantime"
bristle such a strong hero
just annoying
runs you down
yeah but typically you have a team disrupting him somehow
qc gonna win this actually
maybe they can burst him with ET and zeus in a big fight
but I dont see too many answers to him
theyre not even trying
this draft is a bit to out there
nah LG will turn this around
idk how
but just watch them win this game
in the next 10minutes
quincy will take next rosh, push hg
and get wiped
ET is the way
lgd hasnt even attempted to fight/defend so far, they just farm their items
and quincy gets pickoffs 24/7
on solo heroes
this is their first smoke minute 22
and they have like
3more 😄
there we go
didnt even solar guardian in did they
faithbian was just farming
he did on trapped rhasta i think
this game is weird
lgd trying to delay and find trades while looking for the perfect fight
lgd too weak
everyone just spamming xiaobet 
i dunno putting xinq on shaman is a waste
just feels like a pub game
with 1 team flaming each other in teamchat all game
cause mid got ganked twice
i dont see bristle dying with wisp and ww
i mean, weave just jumps them in the backline
literally wasting
the weaver downtime
while he has no buyback
good ol backdoor protection not doing shit
idk, lgd just felt afk all game
not evne buying back/defending 
QC being the first team to take a game off LGD, just like we all expected
xiaobet
did ame even use his bkb a single time?
no vessel (although they didnt really plan on fighting anyway) against bristle/io/wyvern
Oh wow Thunder also took down outsiders, I thought they were going to lose that
but yeah that lgd draft was something else 😄
their last few drafts were trash as well but this one was a new low
ngl, qc played well
but lgd just had a dog draft and was afk all game. maybe call them out on that instead of fellating qc 24/7 now
lol og beat rng in 12 min game 2
Lacoste: "There is no way Chen lives here"
Narrator: "Chen lived"
Royal never give up giving up after 12 minutes
snoozer
mad cus pool lost points 
no just a bad game
doesnt help that Anders Bjuhr, the swedish commentator is absolutely terrible at it
cant be worse than the united game
lgd literally lucky
that was awful
coz jugg jumps on ursa
instead of ns
also how is ns allowed as a hero
omnislash is just budget troll ult
new desk host is also shit, sounds so monotone and like he reads from a script
Im gonna need to see that from player pov
its easier to predict when you have 7k flying vision from ns
Well yeah
wasnt he just outside of bh and put it down after
actually dumbest shit ever
It was really fucking fast
much better than kuckeliku
well yeah she just doesnt know shit
But yeah ns ult is fucking stupid
Nattea is doing an excellent job as host
Especially considering it's like her third dota event
Already ten times better than sheever
we were talking about football premier league host in swedish tv studio 
im pretty sure even if tasteless and artosis did their 1st dota 2 tournament ever people would hate
even tho they'd be lucky to have them
its ok
Svenskjävlar
so its w/e
Lmao
















