#iduos. - Log Review

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azure matrixBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

buoyant lake
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you have 5 casts of Ghostly Strike in a 5 minute fight. This should be way more.. almost 100% uptime

jade magnet
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there's the "don't use ambush as KIR ever" thing that was already noted
you're also not adjusting your button pressing speed to speed up when Adrenaline Rush is active; this is fine because the game doesn't say anywhere, but adrenaline rush reduces your GCD by up to 0.2s at 25% haste (so you want 19% haste from gear)

terse tangle
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Huge like macro overview of outlaw is, you're mashing your buttons like they owe you money

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the whole time

jade magnet
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you do pretty well on the speed sometimes but not others, which is fair enough but it's really important to press fast enough

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there's a reason the one-button rotation is so bad for outlaw, and it's not because the actual rotation logic is absurdly bad or anything

edgy canyon
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Here's my bars.

terse tangle
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It's just how fast you're pressing your keyboard keys

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for some of the fight

jade magnet
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oh god i see why you aren't pressing KS

terse tangle
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oh it's there

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on 0

jade magnet
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bind ghostly strike and killing spree to easily pressable keys

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I use modified luxthos weakauras i made myself, so I know from experience that they're fine enough

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there also seem to be significant periods on fractilus where you just aren't pressing any buttons (the two large ones are 20s and 28s respectively)

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this would be bad as any spec but it's realllly bad as outlaw because of how the spec is an engine that you try to keep running while it tries to explode on you

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tbc i'm not trying to make you feel bad
getting log reviews sucks because it feels like you're perma getting criticised and i know this from personal experience

terse tangle
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It's all constructive, we do want to help

jade magnet
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I think more than anything else this downtime is the issue

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on fractilus you can have effectively 100% uptime

terse tangle
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I wonder if they run back for the walls

jade magnet
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maybe you lose a gcd from a knockback or whatever but you can generally avoid that as well

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The good news here is that this downtime issue isn't you being bad at outlaw, and you'd have to fix this for any spec you play

terse tangle
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Are you using modifiers like shift/alt to help you press more abilities?

edgy canyon
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Yeah. I think my Dad fucked around with the keybindings, so...

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As for downtime, it's due to walls.

jade magnet
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Walls don't cause that much downtime

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You can just stand in the column, you don't have to run back

edgy canyon
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I don't?

jade magnet
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You don't. You get hit by the wall and then immediately grapple back in and that's how the fight is intended to be played afaik

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But also in general for mechanics, you basically only want to leave the boss for as short a time as possible

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If you get a debuff that will leave a lava puddle on your location in 10 seconds, you grapple out at 1s and then back in instantly, instead of spending 10s not hitting the boss

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This is hard and takes practice, but it's a key mindset shift

edgy canyon
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What would y'all recommend for Ghostly Strike?

jade magnet
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Whatever works for you, when I played keyboard I tried to keep all my binds on 1-5/r/f/g/v + shift/ctrl/alt

edgy canyon
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Aight. I put it as X.

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Should I put Ghostly Strike in my Stealth Bar or no?

jade magnet
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Yes
I make my stealth bar identical to my normal bar

edgy canyon
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Aight. Should I keep or remove Slice And Dice?

jade magnet
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Remove, you never press it

edgy canyon
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Done.

edgy canyon
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Okay. I'mma try out the training dummy in Stormwind, see if I can't get good DPS in a minute.

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Here's me post bringing the dummy down to 0 HP. Is this good or bad?

jade magnet
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How does it compare to your sim with no buffs?

edgy canyon
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I don't know how to do a sim.

jade magnet
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Chuck your character name in here

edgy canyon
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I hit run and now have to wait.

jade magnet
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That's with all raid buffs, so off the top of my head if you don't want to sim again with them turned off, I'd say see if you can do 3 million dps single target on the dummy over 5 minutes as a goal?

edgy canyon
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How do I turn them off?

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I'm so sorry for being so dense, by the way. I didn't realize there'd be this much effort into figuring out how to make me NOT suck.

jade magnet
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Under "raid buff presets" on the quick sim page, click "no buffs"

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dw

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Everyone has to learn these basics at some point

edgy canyon
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Is this good or bad?

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This is without the buffs.

jade magnet
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The sim value doesn't matter here, you just want to use it as kinda a goal for what your dps could be if you did everything right

edgy canyon
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Well, the DPS meter I have says I did nine-number damage, so... I don't know if I did good or not.

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I have the meter set to Current Fight, so I don't know if that's the correct data to use or not.

jade magnet
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I recommend setting it to shorten the number instead of showing all the digits if you can

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And most people only care about dps, so you'd be looking at 1.76m dps

edgy canyon
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So still a million DPS?

jade magnet
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yes, but you'll get there with practice now that you know a lot of the problems

edgy canyon
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I hope so.

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Also, question. Apparently this profile's been using Recount. Is that still a good choice or should I go to "Details", whatever that is?

terse tangle
edgy canyon
terse tangle
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I think so, but it's not super important atm

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Just putting in the time on the dummies to get comfortable with the way playing the spec feels is more important

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How much haste do you have in your gear setup?

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You want 19%, but need at least 18% to play the keep it rolling build

edgy canyon
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Annnd I failed again.

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I'll probably KEEP fucking failing.

terse tangle
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Outlaw is probably one of the harder specs to play right now, it's gonna take time and practice to get comfortable

edgy canyon
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Nah, fuck it. I'll just pay for a carry at this rate.

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The pug I'm in kept dying over and over on Phase 1 Hero Dimensius.

terse tangle
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Dimen is probably one of the worst fights for outlaw

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You lose all of your buffs in the downtime

edgy canyon
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So what do I do? I can't show y'all how bad I suck, it seems.

terse tangle
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A lot of people just switched to sub for the last two bosses of raid and play outlaw in M+.

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There's nothing wrong with playing law on every boss, you just need to put in the time to be able to do your rotation on almost autopilot so you can do mechanics at the same time.

edgy canyon
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Hey, so question for Slice And Dice. Why do I not want it?