#itsokimjewish - Log Review

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somber quiverBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

alpine goblet
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how do you achieve green here?

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uneven birch
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I assume char name is Tavia since it's the only sub rogue in both logs - from a quick glance it seems like you need to reread the opener guides and sit at a training dummy

alpine goblet
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yes! probably should have said that

serene spindle
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U also have some quite large gaps where u press nothing while being in cooldowns

alpine goblet
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it may be due to boss mechanics moving out of something :X

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but that def hurts im sure

uneven birch
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Every single one of your shadowblade windows in your Mugzee log is fucked up in different ways

alpine goblet
alpine goblet
uneven birch
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It looks a little bit better on your one arm bandit logs for some of your big burst windows but, it just seems like a mixture of unfamiliarity with the keys you need to press and mechanics

alpine goblet
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what are your guys thoughts on saving coupe for a cd windows?

uneven birch
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Not sure it's worth deep diving when a lot of this can be corrected by revisiting the guide and sitting at the training dummies for a while, have a gcd tracker of some kind on your screen so you can see what you're actually doing and it'll start to become apparent how you're messing it up

alpine goblet
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I use luthos rogue wa

serene spindle
alpine goblet
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and a uh form tracker

serene spindle
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Learn the priority list first then come back it is really not worth your time to worry about all these small things atm

alpine goblet
serene spindle
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Not sure if wowanalyzer is updated for sub tbh

uneven birch
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What I mean by gcd tracker is something that shows what abilities you're using when you press it - details has one built in if you type /streamer

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Not sure which pull you're using wowanalyzer for but, if it was for Mugzee it's because your blades windows are fucked

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This was from the opener on pull

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alpine goblet
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ive noticed its always like 3or 4 seconds behind flangelation

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is that how its supposed to be?

alpine goblet
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for every pull

serene spindle
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It is not updated tho so my 99% rik parse is also 100% red

alpine goblet
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oh nice grats on that

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ok feel a little better

serene spindle
alpine goblet
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but still dosent narrow it down

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and all others? or during a symbols / dance cd?

serene spindle
uneven birch
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Unfortunately, wowanalyzer isn't 100% updated to support sub so I wouldn't rely on the metrics given back on there

serene spindle
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U allways do as u did on opener

uneven birch
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You're just clicking shadow dance, symbols and sectec on cd which is not how you play sub

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Generally, you're gonna do x2 dance, symbols and sectec during blades and inbetween. There's edge cases and more nuance but, you're better off trying to nail this cadence down first

alpine goblet
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so I need to extend my down phase more

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until I have 2 charges when shadow blades is ready?

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symbol dance into back stab to blades ST

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how long am I holding ST for?

serene spindle
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No u need to make sure that u don't overuse such that when ur shadow blades and falg are back u have 2 charges or at least very low cooldown on the 2nd charge

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If u do as hattorin said then it roughly works out

alpine goblet
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when you are outside of opener which gets the symbol/dance flang or blades

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or the whole point is

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full reset

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open again

serene spindle
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After opener u do 2x dance + symbols where u use 1 sec tech in each danse

alpine goblet
serene spindle
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then u press only backstap evicirate till u get flag and symbols back

alpine goblet
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I dont understand the using ST less

uneven birch
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It's to make sure you have two dances and symbols during shadowblades

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There are optimizations to send a naked sectec but, you're not doing that, you're full sending a mini burst too close to shadowblades coming up and gimping your big burst windows

alpine goblet
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so ST dry or save with __ till next blades?

uneven birch
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Yes, you want to make sure you always supercharge sectec but, you don't just click dance symbols and sectec because you have it

alpine goblet
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because flang blades is coming up

serene spindle
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Yes

alpine goblet
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and I want everything during flang blades x2

uneven birch
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Yes, when you're about ~30s out you should not be using dance symbols or sectec

alpine goblet
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30s on the blades cd or 30 sec on flang

serene spindle
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30 sec flag

alpine goblet
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should my blades be closer inuse to flang

uneven birch
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Again, there's optimizations where you can farm sectec back in 30s but, you shouldn't worry about this until you nail the standard burst windows

alpine goblet
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its normally feeling 3/4 seconds behind

uneven birch
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It shouldn't be unless you're doing the old vanish opener which I saw you did in one of the pulls

alpine goblet
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ok scrap vanish

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until I get targeted with something or low e?

serene spindle
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Yeah u can just press vanish whenever

uneven birch
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It's better to do the non-vanish opener now cause it's more consistent on each shadowblades window and you can just use vanish whenever

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Utility, premed to get dance, etc

serene spindle
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But i think this is all the help we can give now it is up to u to apply it in practice

alpine goblet
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how big of a deal is energy waste I noticed I was like 3x the other sub rogue who also grey parsed XD

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follow up question how does this apply to M+

uneven birch
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you don't really care about energy waste, only thing you care about is managing your cooldowns for your big and mini burst windows

alpine goblet
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I dont do big keys but I would at least like to do 10s and not look like a fool

uneven birch
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If you can nail the fundamentals, 10s are easy on sub

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Start with that then start understanding the other uncommon rules for mini bursts and etc

alpine goblet
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ok much appreciated thanks for helping me out!

uneven birch
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In M+, there are going to be times where you just don't do damage cause you have nothing. Especially if your group is plowing everything

alpine goblet
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so better to do big damage on every other pull or third pull

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im assuming most of my groups probably only pull 8 mobs at a time or something

uneven birch
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unless you have a group you consistently play with, you're gonna see wild shit from pug groups

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Pulling 3 mobs at a time cause scared or pulling massive cause they saw it on MDI and everything inbetween

alpine goblet
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yeah that feels about right

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oh one more question since im still trying to get house of cards should the [Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet] be tied to symbols dance or blades or flang?

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and follow up question is LFR house of cards worth it vs 655 ilvl other trinkets?

uneven birch
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You wouldn't want to put the magnet with flag cause it'll put house of cards on cooldown and make you miss the timing with shadowblades. LFR house of cards isn't bad if you absolutely hate PvP but, if you can stomach it you're better off farming the champ track Prized Gladiator's Badge of Ferocity for 700 Conquest

alpine goblet
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I dont have any pvp gear from this season is that going to be problematic?