#sirh4mlet - Log Review

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fierce iceBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

pearl moth
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Hey guys! ๐Ÿ‘‹
I'm currently trying to play outlaw on my alt. I read the guides here and on wowhead. And I also train at the dummys. I went LOU nhc and raid. But I'm still ultra bad ๐Ÿ˜… ๐Ÿ™ˆ
For example I don't know how other outlaws get that huge amount of BTE. Can someone have a look in my logs please? Would be great if you find the big problem(s) and maybe a solution ๐Ÿ™
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xrZc62dG4kbgDhJq

raw gorge
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i think you're not pressing ambush inside stealth

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like you don't have it keybound

pearl moth
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I have bounded it

raw gorge
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okay well, you keep pressing sinister strike inside stealth

pearl moth
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yeah sometimes I can't press ambush

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too less energy I guess, so I have done a mistake before?

raw gorge
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i'm not seeing that you are out of energy when you press SS inside stealth

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but even so, should still wait for ambush

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it is just 5 more energy than an SS

pearl moth
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true, then I don't know why I presed SS there

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*pressed

raw gorge
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a couple things about your opener on Bandit

pearl moth
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I watched logs to compare and I always saw a big different between my uses of bte and the uses of others. twice as much as my uses

raw gorge
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  1. use blade flurry > stealth before the pull so it doesnt cost you a stealth global, you got 4 meaningful globals in stealth there when it should be 8
  2. open with adrenaline rush > ghostly strike > BtE on the same global
  3. after your first stealth window, you built into killing spree (correct) but then you didnt vanish > BtE on the next finisher

after your first stealth window, vanish is at 2 charges so you have to use it after killing spree

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  1. this build spams roll the bones unless you have 4+ buffs active
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you rolled 1 broadside here, so you should have used roll the bones asap when it came off cooldown, even inside stealth

pearl moth
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ok and during stealth a lot way more ambush to get enough cp and ofc to get more bte during stealth?

raw gorge
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i'm seeing a general pattern of pressing sinister strike while the pistol shot proc is active, but this build should prioritize the pistol shot proc over SS

the builder priority is pretty much ambush (if available) > pistol shot proc (if you cant ambush) > sinister strike (if you cant ambush or pistol shot proc)

raw gorge
pearl moth
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I have to use more ambush, right?
So I get faster CP for using more BTE

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that was I trying to aks

raw gorge
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yes, you have to build combo points properly in stealth

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and since ambush is available, it has priority to build cp

pearl moth
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roger

raw gorge
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You should use finishers at 6+ CP normally but at 5+ CP if stealth, audacity, or opportunity (pistol shot proc) is active

pearl moth
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okay, make sense to me. ofc

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ehm, and that could bring me a lot more bte?

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we are not talking about trying to pump bte up from "50" to 60-70 uses, we want more I guess

And playing the rotation, especially the stealth-rotation cleaner, can solve it?

raw gorge
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basically everything controls the average cd on vanish and how many bte's you can fit inside a vanish window