#xenop_ - Log Review
remote coral
crystal bay
crystal bay
well off the bat youre playing KiR but youre pressing ambush
thats a huge huge loss of dps
the KiR build doesnt use ambush
devout topaz
Like at all? Even in stealth?
crystal bay
yeah not at all
copper jolt
Keep it rolling uses sinister strike as it's main generator
crystal bay
as KiR you take tight spender and not improved ambush
copper jolt
just remove ambush from your bars
devout topaz
just remove ambush from your bars
Feel really stupid rn
crystal bay
thats alright, easy change that will give you a lot of dps
copper jolt
Feel really stupid rn
haha it's all good bro -- outlaw is super fun but there's a learning curve
devout topaz
haha it's all good bro -- outlaw is super fun but there's a learning curve
Not like i've been playing outlaw since BFA
Prefer HO, but KiR better output. So currently rying to play KiR.
copper jolt
Not like i've been playing outlaw since BFA
to be fair, it's changed so much that it's hard to compare
crystal bay
Not like i've been playing outlaw since BFA
well it changes every season haha
devout topaz
I got really disgusted by it at the start of TWW.
Trying to get back in, cause i like it.
But pisses me off to not perform on this
crystal bay
its arguably the hardest spec in the game
devout topaz
As said, on my alts, i have like 85 logs in MM
crystal bay
and playing KiR is harder than HO so youre starting wtih the harder build too lol
devout topaz
Can't fucking get to log more than 50...
devout topaz
has a good basic outline for KiR rules
Tbf, i'm a lazy fuck
I got the WA
WA say to press KiR
I do
crystal bay
he means the rules for kir build
devout topaz
Yeah, that's what i'm saying
devout topaz
Oh Yeah sorry
crystal bay
niche things like pressing rtb once after KiR
copper jolt
HO is not a bad place to start if you're just getting the hang of current otl
on paper, KiR is more damage, but that's if it's played well
crystal bay
I would post another log when you fix the ambush thing
since that could be a big source of issues
copper jolt
yee give it another go with the right build
there's always peeps in outlaw who are down for log review
mewo is the goat
crystal bay
yeah we all know the specs hard so generally people are pretty friendly about it
couple other little things is that youre vanishing without RP buff up which isnt usually good
unless youre about to overcap on vanish charges
or drop adr buff
all of this is in the faq though so give it a thorough read for sure
devout topaz
unless youre about to overcap on vanish charges
Pretty much following the following rules :
- If vanish is 15 sec from overcapping, vanish
- If ADR is gonna fall off soon and can get a vanish, i do.
Not perfect at all, i know. Will read it again tho.
crystal bay
yeah thats just about right
3rd rule is to vanish if RP buff is up
or if you have Supercharger buff
devout topaz
Should include this two
Trying to find a way to macro SS and Ambush depending of build ...
crystal bay
you can do that
devout topaz
BAM
New log
well it's heroic
But eh, practising.
I think i'm holding my vanish too much.
However if i'm sending them by the book :
- ADR < 3s
- BtE on CD + RP
- Supercharger buff
I'm not perfect on this at all, but looks like i'm loosing 4-5 vanish overall
crystal bay
you shouldnt lose any vanishes doing that
you can only "lose" vanishes by having it overcap
crystal bay
Yeah that will be the most noticeable performance metric for doing your rotation well
adr uptime is a good measurement of it
80-90 is good 90+ is great
devout topaz
I mean, if i follow by the books the vanish rules, i do feel like running of ADR more often...
crystal bay
You shouldnt, the vanish rules should result in around 96% adr uptime over a 5 minute boss fight. Even higher uptime for 2-3min which is what most fights are now
A lot of my kills I have 100% adr uptime without any specific good luck
frankly we have an abudance of adr so if uptime is a problem its most likely that youre missing some other rules that result in less cp generation which leads to less cdr
