#Circle men? Absolutely
keen hornet
Hey unsure where you have it zoomed, if it’s on a specific boss fight, I can look at it (mobile) otherwise it’ll be much later
granite nymph
Hey unsure where you have it zoomed, if it’s on a specific boss fight, I can loo...
Ay thanks first of all, mainly the first and last boss
thank you in advance
keen hornet
Yessir will do
granite nymph
Yessir will do
So I installed Hekili to figure out why if I‘m able to hit sim numebrs on a dummy and yea ofc I am and I‘m not 100% what exactly I played differently but with hekili it forced me to mutilate or fan to 7cp when I already had 6 and finish then, a bit pooling on my envenoms and sometimes it adviced me to finish at 5cp, I might be more confused now than before
keen hornet
Hekili bad
It doesn’t take sf or context to effect
It just copied paste cast sequence from a sim
granite nymph
What exactly is sf? I‘m not educated in the short terms of the sin‘s 
but with hekili I was atleast able to hit my sim numbers and sustain them for several minutes
keen hornet
Seal fate
karmic cargo
It doesn’t take sf or context to effect
That's not true at all but okay. Conditions based on seal fate are built in to the CP generation function.
keen hornet
It seems to show through random generation.
It’s produced combo waste for everyone who’s used it forever.
I figured that’s what you meant not gonna split hairs on typos or misnames
karmic cargo
I mean the addon can't predict whether or not you'll crit if you don't have 100% crit
keen hornet
Exactly
karmic cargo
But anytime there is a guaranteed crit somehow, yes, it is predicted properly
keen hornet
Which fundamentally makes it a poor selection for the spec.
keen hornet
I don’t speak of other specs because I don’t play others but I really try to veer away from it.
The difference in that is once you know “the rules” you can adapt on the fly
If you know the rules and play hekili likely it’s fine
karmic cargo
Sure. I am a dev for the add-on and was just clarifying that.
keen hornet
But those who use it to learn often rely on it only to play
It’s all good! Not trying to slander it, I just know specific here. It’s never been great.
If I misspoke or worded poorly my apologies
karmic cargo
FWIW, I've specifically done a lot of work on Sin for it the last week and it's doing very well.
keen hornet
But I’ve seen too many nuts slammed on 5 because of crit wasting resources.
keen hornet
That’s good to hear, may roll it and see if I can provide some feedback if that’s okay!
Idk how complex the logic is (especially if you’ve been working on the last week specific) but our rule for finishers is 5+, unless darkest night the buff is active
Then it’s 7
Before we had max 6 combo points
And I’d see someone slam mut on an incorrect number, rather than pressing a finisher
karmic cargo
Well the logic is as complex as the sim APL, but I'll take a look at that. If the sims say 6, we do 6.
keen hornet
When that was the situation it would present
Apl should be correct but it doesn’t 1/1 due to the nature of the spec, also not going to hijack this thread because I do need to review legenda’s stuff when I get to a computer would it be okay to dm this conversation @karmic cargo ?
Bridging the gap for people having accessibility into a spec is a big deal and it’s a hard task to do. If there’s a way to improve and make it usable, even if not recommended. That would be an excellent step in the right direction
karmic cargo
sure can DM me
keen hornet
Alright @granite nymph few issues in that I found.
Looked at the second boss on the db and your issues seem to be stemming with lining your CDs correctly
In these four globals you kinda borked it
Kb into shiv is almost never the play
You wanna clip the last 8s of your kingsbane with one charge
And vanishing that early means you don’t get your MA buff
So that entire window ends up being a wash
granite nymph
So if I point out the things I need to fix:
-Playing shiv at the end of KB
-Play around MA and vanish when the first MA stack runs out
-Pooling with envenom to play around Vile Tincture to get the maximum amount of stacks until the buff runs out
So the shiv & MA part are quite easy to understand but the question I still have is when to force finish envenom at 7cp and sometimes at 5cp, should I only force a 7cp envenom when Darkest Night is active?
granite nymph
Kb into shiv is almost never the play
And thanks for pointing that out, I thought shiv was an esential to play at the beginning of KB
keen hornet
Nope more kb stacks = more dsm
granite nymph
Nope more kb stacks = more dsm
I played some dungeons today
And my st has absolutely improved
Thanks a lot! Now I‘m hitting sim numbers
keen hornet
Hell yeah brethren
Hell yeah love to hear it
If you have more keys
Glad to look at the boss fights
Have to do it at night
But glad to all the same to go more in depth
granite nymph
Ay you really enjoy analyzing logs dont you
keen hornet
First one was just a very obvious fix, rest could be even more in depth
I don’t
But no one else does it
granite nymph
granite nymph
What a good men you are