#Quirex log review

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echo zinc
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@native leaf @brisk nova

ashen hawk
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@native leaf main fundamentals are just don't overcap resources / charges or cds + maintain max uptime. I can see you correctly pool and know about using clear the witness on sang blades deathstalker. perhaps consider VV (and remember to stop using fan if you do) for pure st

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bleed uptimes are generally good

native leaf
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Yeah tried going without VV this raid to see how it felt, is it not the ideal build tho?

ashen hawk
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i'd sim it

native leaf
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And with Vanish garrote, I should wait until it pandemics after the initial application, and then use it for the second DM window?

ashen hawk
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personally speaking if a fight is PURE st i'd prefer to go with VV, less buttons and it sims higher for me

native leaf
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Ohh right, need to do that true!

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Alright that sounds nice

ashen hawk
native leaf
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Alright

ashen hawk
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issue is if you hold it a while and that delays dm later int he fight and makes you miss a use

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or mistime it compared to add spawns etc

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it can be an angle to just hold vanish to send 2nd dm v quick or send it fairly fast

native leaf
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Alright, so depends on the encounter and timings?

ashen hawk
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only other notes on vanish would be fatebound exclusive since they run master assassin, if I get a choice within gar pandemic I like to vanish as close to end of kb as possible

native leaf
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Oh, so if it goes pandemic and I've got say 8 sec left on KB, I should hold it until kb is ending?

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Oh, cause prio is pumping up kb to max stacks?

ashen hawk
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you'd want it to cover end of kb theoretically

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ye

native leaf
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Gotcha

ashen hawk
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but thats ONLY if you run master assassin

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and it never makes you not play for max gar uptime during dm

native leaf
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Ah okay, I think I usually have one into it

ashen hawk
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i find for me gar runs out on pull close to 6s left on kb

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after 2nd shiv cast

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but that's only on fatebound

native leaf
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Ah okay,

ashen hawk
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none of this applies to ds

native leaf
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So on ds i reapply it with vanish when kB has 50 stacks?

ashen hawk
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for ds you just reapply it as soon as ur in pandemic for gar

native leaf
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Okay cool, sounds straightforward enough! ^^

ashen hawk
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this talent is what makes vanish timing technically optimiosable

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and only fatebound takens it atm

native leaf
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Ohh right that one, mb

ashen hawk
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honestly dont think too much about it

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i dont even think there was a notable sim gain doign this

native leaf
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Fair enough haha ^^

ashen hawk
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this stuff is like 0.2-0.4% etc

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basically fake

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so long as you keep bleeds up, cds on cd and uptime on boss you'll do well

native leaf
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Oh cool, so biggest dps gain will be using tea better to get more envenoms off?

ashen hawk
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after that point what makes you good will be defensive and mechanical play

native leaf
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Cool, love it

ashen hawk
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ur future kingsbanes will be better

native leaf
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Yeah that makes so much sense, can't believe I haven't thought about that

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Tbh I've just had it macroed into shiv which I realize now is really stupid 😂

ashen hawk
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yeah, get it on a seperate bind

native leaf
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Yeah will do!

ashen hawk
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not really much else to say from princess log

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was there a specific fight you wanted me to look at?

native leaf
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Thank you so much for helping out honestly, really appreciate it! 🙏❤️

ashen hawk
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actually one thing

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you know we can pre-immune on princess

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to not get queensbane debuff

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when the ghost charrges if

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you are immune

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it doesn't apply the dot and you dont throw balls out

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so you can get more uptime by doing that

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you cloaked 10s late

native leaf
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No all good! Just wanted to know rotation wise what was glaring, I think you found it ^^ cause I'm guessing in aoe with caustic talented it's just fok into envenoms right?

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Ohh shit really? Had no idea, thats awesome!

ashen hawk
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aoe depends on how long enemies take to die

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generally speaking prio is

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WITH IC UP: rupture spread > gar spread > ct > apply caustic > env

native leaf
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No like on Queen for example when everyone gets rooted, i usually just make sure I've got rupture and caustic up, and some combo points and energy pooled, then fok envenom spam

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Oh no I mean in raid but fights where you take caustic

ashen hawk
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without ic: ct > rup on main t > apply caustic > gar on main t > env

native leaf
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Yh

ashen hawk
native leaf
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Yeah exactly

ashen hawk
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play is you mut to high cp then wait to env until they spawn

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then ye fok env

native leaf
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Yeah that's what I did tonight, worked like a charm ^^

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Oh last question, have I understood it correctly that with sanguine specced you wanna try and stay below 150 energy until you're preparing for cd window?

ashen hawk
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ye just start not pooling if ur going above half energy

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you dont need to prepare for cd windows with energy

native leaf
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Yeah, so kinda pretend 150 is the energy cap when outside of cd

ashen hawk
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tea will cover you

native leaf
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Ohh right with tea

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Cool!

ashen hawk
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other than that

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consider that tea can be higher value during moments with a lot of aoe

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since extra mastery beefs up env + caustic and ct

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on broodkeeper it's becoming an idea to send teas on aoe

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but idk where else in this raid you'll have a lot of adds up for a while

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outside of that it can be worth sending a rupture on a dying target for a big chunk of energy

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if ur starving

native leaf
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Ahh cool, so in critical aoe situations it's worth using even if you overcap energy?

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Yeah have gotten into sniping ruptures a bit lately

ashen hawk
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nah it shouldnt overcap you

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but ye it can be a big dps gain if ur aoeing infinite mobs

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to tea for energy

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mastery*

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since you wont be starved in general

native leaf
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That's cool, will keep that in mind!

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Yeah

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Again thank you so much for taking the time, really great pointers! 🙏❤️ May the wow gods bless you with high rolls haha

ashen hawk
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ty and gl