godspeedhando - Log Review

[oak tide]

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[proper rain]

Well firstly your gear is a bit rough, a bit too much haste and 8000 mastery is not ideal, and nothing is enchanted

that stuff does matter at least a bit

your opener

missed a global in the first stealth window, and then used vanish at low combo points

should use vanish > BtE when you have the right cps to use a finisher

[verbal gate]

ok so i should make sure i have at least 5 cp if i want to vanish into bte?

[proper rain]

it's 5-6cp

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and yea my gear isnt the best, i dont have bis weapons so i dont know if enchanting them is the best

[proper rain]

like, this build uses finishers at 6cp normally but 5cp if subterfuge, opportunity, or audacity are active

So vanish > bte is the same rule

[verbal gate]

idk how much my gear is affecting my damage. i assume my vers is really low

[proper rain]

Vers is good it's really the crit

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what is the ideal crit range i should be at?

[proper rain]

about the same or a bit lower than vers

There's not a ideal percentage

[verbal gate]

oh it should be same or lower? why is that?

[proper rain]

sorry, that is not a specific threshold

It's just vers >= crit for outlaw

So you meet your haste requirement and then have vers crit gear and they end up about the same

[verbal gate]

ok i see, i was comparing to other logs and my abilities just flat out dont do as much damage as others even if i have the same or more casts of the ability

like not even close really. is that a gear issue or more of a cp usage issue?

or both

[proper rain]

prob both

like my BtE has like 80% crit rating in a normal pull

which is partly gear but also partly playing well

because the Ruthless Precision buff from Roll the Bones influences BtE crit rate

and you get more roll the bones buffs, through the count the odds talent, by playing well

[verbal gate]

are you ever supposed to roll the bones to get a better stat?

like are there ones more valuable than others

[proper rain]

We keep any 2 buff combo from roll the bones and use the Loaded Dice buff to roll 1 buff into 2 buffs

[verbal gate]

and that only happens with adrenaline rush

[proper rain]

and be careful not to roll over extra buffs from count the odds if they are active

yeah

but adrenaline rush cooldown is influenced by playing well

so it's kinda all full circle

[verbal gate]

if my bones loses duration but my vanish and adrenaline are coming up soon do i hold it so i can get 2 buffs?

or should i always keep 100% uptime on roll the bones regardless if it aligns with my adrenaline rsh into vanish bte window

[proper rain]

You shouldn't let rtb expire

and just reroll when needed

it is possible to hold vanish for an upcoming reroll, though it is not a hard written rule

cause vanish is needed to stop adrenaline rush from ticking down

[verbal gate]

so even if im not in my vanish window anymore with adrenaline rush its fine to just reroll when the roll the bones ability is back up

[proper rain]

yes, you reroll as soon as possible if you need to with loaded dice

[verbal gate]

so essentially you shold never lapse in uptime on bones

[proper rain]

ye

I'm seeing a lot of sinister strike casts while the pistol shot proc is already active

[verbal gate]

and it's more important to bte at 5+ cp in subterfuge is it ever worth to bte at like 1 or 2 if you can fit like one more in before subterfuge expires?

yea i think i use my sinister strike alot

[proper rain]

No that's not worth you need 5cp to flip a coin

[verbal gate]

if i dont have any procs of pistol shot is sinister strike above in prio?

or is it fine to use a pistol shot over sinister

[proper rain]

You only pistol shot with the proc

You only SS if you have nothing

for this build, pistol shot procs are used to proc ambush when ambush is not available

[verbal gate]

without better gear is it possible to purple or orange parse? or is my gear that bad that even if i fix my rotation it cant go up a super amount

[proper rain]

so pistol shot procs always have higher priority than sinister strike

[verbal gate]

and ambush proc has prio over pistol shot proc?

[proper rain]

yes

[proper rain]

I mean at this point you are parsing against very geared people

[verbal gate]

and u should always finish if u have max cp right even if pistol shot proc is up?

[proper rain]

yeah finishers always have a higher priority than builders

[verbal gate]

im thinking more for ilvl parsing

[proper rain]

i mean maybe

ilvl parsing is kinda wack cause a lot of power level is loaded into like, main hand item level and trinkets

u could still be competing with people who have crafted or dropped a 636 mainhand

[verbal gate]

i see so is the only way to see progress on logs and damage via better gear?

from a green to like purple/orange parse perspective

[proper rain]

Parsing is both about gear and rotation

probably not green to purple

but purple to orange can be just gear or luck

[verbal gate]

yes but if people are at this point quite geared , even if i fix my rotation am i still going to be weighted less like in the greens range cause my gear isnt up to snuff

[proper rain]

Yeah so it's really more important that you are doing well within your raid group

i dont want to mislead you into thinking that gear is the only problem

but it is a piece of the puzzle

[verbal gate]

no yea i appreciate your insight im more curious like even if i fix my rotation it seems like the ceiling is still decently up there i just want to make sure im not losing my mind cause if i fix my rotation and my parses are still not up to snuff

it's tough to know if my rotation is bad or if my gear is kind of bottlenecking my damage from reaching higher parses

cause i think i do mechanics fine within my raid group but my parses are abysmal , so if i parse like a 31 on ulgrax and i fix my rotation im curious what the difference will be , will i be kind of walled in at like 50-60 range without better gear? im unsure

[proper rain]

you can prob blue parse at like minimum without changing gear

i mean your raid group is prob not super geared either

and most of them are blue

[verbal gate]

ok which is at least going up like 200,000 dps

yea that log is a pug

i dont have like a guild i mainly pug

or join a friends run if they have open spots

[proper rain]

oh ye prob everyone has whatever gear then

Your gear is aight just 8k mastery is a bit oof

[verbal gate]

and last question thank you for your time btw, in my opener i should adrenaline then slice and dice then roll bones correct?

[proper rain]

replacing that neck and ring would already be a decent gain

[verbal gate]

yea i did alot of grinding into assa at first

[proper rain]

this build can use RTB before AR

its not a big deal either way

then you start with 1 buff usually and can reroll it into pandemic 2 buffs asap

[verbal gate]

not sure how to fix the mastery stuff without major overhaul cause on my crafting i double dipped into stats

oh so it makes no difference really if i just start with rtb before ar and then slice and dice?

[proper rain]

can recraft out of mastery

yea

you just have to know that you will reroll soon

[verbal gate]

yea it's tough because i still play assa

[proper rain]

i thought sin likes every stat basically

[verbal gate]

so if i completely gut my mastery that will affect my damage there

[proper rain]

think it can get away without mastery crafted gear

U prob will just swap around ring and necks for sin/outlaw

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that is what i currently do now

[proper rain]

and recraft vers crit

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recraft bracers and wasit into vers crit?

[proper rain]

ye

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ok i see

[proper rain]

Remember that this build wants to sit between 8-10% haste

anything more than that it starts to drop off hard

u have 11% which is still fine

sometimes item level just wins

[verbal gate]

i see what should my crit be at then?

cause i thought having 18% is fine

or is it the fact that my verse isnt as high as my crit?

cause if i recraft my crit will still be higher than my verse

[proper rain]

it says you have 4612 crit

and 10396 vers

u are looking at percentage and not rating i think

[verbal gate]

so if it needs to match my verse then my crit needs to be double the percentage basically

since the stats are weighted differently?

[proper rain]

yea

you get 10% crit as a baseline from nothing

[verbal gate]

so i can realistically just swap certain pieces if it has alot of crit even if i lose out on verse?

if i have nothing else to swap

what would u say is a good amoun of verse to not drop below

[proper rain]

Only haste has a magic number

because we need haste to lower our global cooldown during adrenaline rush

other than that is just get vers crit

[verbal gate]

i see , cause my crit is insanely low by comparison to something it should be either slightly or equal to

[proper rain]

You use raidbots top gear to make gear swapping decisions

idk myself

if your crit is low then it will likely want more

compared to vers

[verbal gate]

ok i see