#Aljan log

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wet mauve
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@eternal vector

eternal vector
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@thorny nimbus ok been going through ur log and there are some stuff that u are missing rotationally.Not pressing snd and/or pressing shiv after or when ur kb is about to drop.On aoe u wanna avoid pressing mutilate above once to the target u are spattering from and in any scenario there are 3+ targets u wanna fok instead

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Im trying to search any other things that are directly impactful to ur dps output

thorny nimbus
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much appreciated

eternal vector
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another small thing is that u kinda delay pressing ER on cd,we always press it on cd as a builder

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in general its obvious u are trying to execute the rotation as it should be

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couple of big mistakes,we never send deathmark alone

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we always pair it with kingsbane

thorny nimbus
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yeah, well am i delaying it or are we not fighting mobs currently?

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ireally try to press it on cd

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unless pack is sub 10%

eternal vector
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u press it on cd

thorny nimbus
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did more dps in thsi one

eternal vector
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generally the the timings on KB and Deathmark cant be broken,u press every 2min both and every 1 min KB alone

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delaying KB means delayingthe next big window,thus losing dmg

thorny nimbus
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you always wanna sync every other u mean

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ye

eternal vector
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that applies to DM as well

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yeah

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its better to press KB even on a pack that u wont take the full value out of it because mobs will die

thorny nimbus
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something i've wondered about

eternal vector
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because if u dont its dmg u lost

thorny nimbus
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if you open from stealth and its 3 targets do you want to double rupture still for the extra duration

eternal vector
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and it will delay ur nex tbig window

thorny nimbus
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or are u better off using CT or something else

thorny nimbus
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more and more

eternal vector
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depends if u have a DN popping off soon,kinda need to play around it but the general idea is to cover ur targets with bleeds,thats all there is to it

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the way u handle ur cps can vary from times to times

thorny nimbus
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ok

eternal vector
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maybe u wanna gar=>rup=>gar=>fok to burn ctw and ct

thorny nimbus
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i think one of the biggest things i struggle with now is my vanish usage in m+

eternal vector
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or press mut and envom for the mark

thorny nimbus
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esp when u have it off cd but u arleady have bleeds on your target

eternal vector
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if the pack is pretty big u can go something like gar=>gar=>rup=>rup=>fok for ctw=>mut for spatter=> CDS=>.....=>vanish sub 4sec remaining on ur gar and reapply bleeds to maintain empowered bleeds and do massive dmg

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thats the most optimal way to maximize ur dmg with ur vanish

thorny nimbus
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right

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but when you vanish

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do you also reapply ruptures

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or go straight into envenom spams

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u just vanish for the garrotes?

eternal vector
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u reapply ruptures if u can if u are missing scent stacks

thorny nimbus
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trying to weave you know a clean vanish for both damage and to silence caster mobs

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but its unlikely that its gonna line up perfectly for both scenarios

eternal vector
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what i personally do is focus/stepkick what i can and if caster mobs are silenced from the gar reapplications from vanish so be it

thorny nimbus
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i actually saw my dps increase alot by applying new ruptures to mobs that we chain. i've kind a forgot about the scent stacks for awhile so i would lose ruptures making me go out of energy and loe the agi

eternal vector
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else u just have to manually pick casters from frames and press ur gar

thorny nimbus
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ye

eternal vector
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yeah odds are because u maintained the scent stacks,its a massive dmg boost

thorny nimbus
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hard to say i did almost the same dps this run without a aug

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but now we had battle shout and shaman buff

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these are really huge

eternal vector
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skyfury is very big ye

earnest cairn
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(sorry can i join the conversation for advice?)

eternal vector
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its a public thread friend

earnest cairn
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I've been holding vanish for iron wire for most dungeons unless I know i wont need it in 1-2 packs

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is empowered garrote that important to maintain past initial stealth?

thorny nimbus
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they do alot of dam

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kinda depends on the pull size but a medium size pack its gonna do alot of damge but if u play 15-20 targets it likely doesnt matter much

earnest cairn
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yeah, garrote as a whole is ~9-10% of my overall damage is that low?

thorny nimbus
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i guess

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i think it should be closer to 12%

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mine was also 10 but my vanish usage is terrible

eternal vector
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there isnt a certain % threshold u should reach or anything

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the profile should just look like this:
1)Spatter
2)Envenom
3)Garrote very close to envenom,if not similar
4)CT
e.t.c

thorny nimbus
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surely rupture above CT

eternal vector
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no

thorny nimbus
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unless we are playing necrotic wake maybe

earnest cairn
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My garrote and CT are swapped

eternal vector
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rupture is close to CT but normally not above but that depends

thorny nimbus
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hm

eternal vector
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it doesnt matter all that much and depends the key

earnest cairn
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actually my GB has rupture, VT, and envenom all together

thorny nimbus
earnest cairn
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this is because I hold vanish to AoE iron wire a lot of packs

eternal vector
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u shouldnt rly hold anything

thorny nimbus
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i think i press my CT too late in a pack

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usaully like 15 seconds into the pack

eternal vector
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yes u wanna send ct early and the more targets the better

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coz its amp'd naturally as a spell

earnest cairn
mossy osprey
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I swear my CT does 2nd most dmg when running 10+ keys

eternal vector
earnest cairn
thorny nimbus
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do u guys rupture twice though from the CP refund>?

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cause i always do that

earnest cairn
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and CT scales better with larger packs than other bleeds

thorny nimbus
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so it takes ahwhile before u get to press CT

eternal vector
earnest cairn
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i mean

eternal vector
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makes absolute sense

earnest cairn
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depending on pack size 1-2 fon should get u there

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sap, do you also do reviews of raid logs?

eternal vector
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@thorny nimbus another last thing i wanted to mention is that u always wanna cover ur KB's last ticks on m+ with that 1 shiv uve got

thorny nimbus
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ye my shiv usage is abit sus

eternal vector
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whispyr's edit has a condition edit on his afenar pack that highlights when u send shiv

thorny nimbus
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someone told me i need to shiv before kingsbane

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but maybe thats when u ahve 2x talented

earnest cairn
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yeah

eternal vector
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if u have 2 stacks of shiv thats the case

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u cover all ur KB

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with 1 u cover the last ticks,since they do more dmg than the initial hit

earnest cairn
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do you deathmark > KB immediately? or do you want to deathmark > enven > kb?

eternal vector
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envenom needs to be active

earnest cairn
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yeaht he 30% is huge

eternal vector
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KB ramps faster

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thats all

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u can dm kb if its active,doesnt rly matter

earnest cairn
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and typically you want to immediately garrote and rupture right?

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its worth reapplying those right before dm ends?

eternal vector
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inside ur KB/DM windows or ur KB windows u wanna press as many envenoms as u can

thorny nimbus
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lets say

eternal vector
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that means ur bleeds should be rdy before u send ur cds and for their duration

thorny nimbus
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ur energy starved on ST. >sub 50 energy do u just wanna afk for 10+ seconds if your dm/kb is about to come off

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to dump as much as possible

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with your cds

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to go into your cds with 200+ energy or whatever

eternal vector
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ye u just need to press envenom before u send ur cds

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KB needs that

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u aint gonna do dmg w/o energy anyway

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and ofc have the energy to spam into ur window

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pooling is a thing

thorny nimbus
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i usually have to do that on first boss in mist

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for the damage amp

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afk when trees gose on 30%

eternal vector
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yup thats an obvious one

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anyway if we are done,need to bounce,got an early wake up 😉

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hope u had some information to work on

thorny nimbus
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ait ait ty for the help homie appreciate it

eternal vector
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np fam

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have a nice day/night 🙂