#Alex log review

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plucky loom
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@upbeat flame top dog in case no one else is able to, and if you have the time, help the man out.
Thanks for the help dog

sly lava
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o/

plucky loom
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I can't do it because I legit don't look at logs, and it's in the morning in EU so most people are either busy or sleeping

runic sluice
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you didn't vanish in your opener?

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also missed a kingsbane usage

plucky loom
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Be sure to check the build is being used, VV no Imp garrote doesn't use vanish

sly lava
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i got to many builds atm i am experimenting from either method site/icy veins or top players. so sometimes maybe i fuked up my talents pre-fight

sly lava
runic sluice
sly lava
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my issue is when i look at uptime....cuz like i said im at 0 energy most of the time

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almost 40% of the time spent not casting anything

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cuz im spent

runic sluice
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are you pooling around the envenom buff?

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i mean no

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it looks very much like you aren't

arctic stream
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Does look like he spams envenom

runic sluice
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tl;dr - wait until there's 1s left on the envenom buff before envenoming again, if you can't keep the bfuf then pool back up to at least 50% energy

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during cds you spam

sly lava
runic sluice
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pooling is letting your energy build, ie "building a pool of energy"

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or, as i like to think of it "lounging in a pool doing nothing"

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you take those moments when you can get them

sly lava
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hm

runic sluice
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that being said, i think it's a bigger deal that you missed a kingsbane and a vanish this fight

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assassination isn't a "constantly press buttons" spec like fury or outlaw

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it's a burst spec so you kind of want to think of your time between bursts as conserving resources to blow during the burst

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of course you never want to be at full energy not using it

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or sitting on a cd that's ready to use

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if you want constant activity that's more similar to fury, check out outlaw, but sin is bursts of intensity then a lot of "hurry up and wait"

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which also means we have to know fights a little better

sly lava
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ok, havin a look.. guess i need to reed my buffs better. yeah im not sure im used to playing burst, just spam

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and its what ive been doing

runic sluice
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like you'd never want to use deathmark right before a major boss ability that might make you lose downtime (ie. kyveza portalsA)

sly lava
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considered going outlaw but id need serious gear changes

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yeah gotcha, timing is deffi important

runic sluice
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whereas on outlaw you still don't WANT to, but it's not terribly punishing if you do

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i don't have a perfect outlaw set, not enough haste and heavy on crit, but you really just need weapons if you wanna swap back and forth

sly lava
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im confused on my garrote usage says 16/47...but i always had it up. how did i miss 30 garrotes what xD

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is there a buff i should be using it at?

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it was a single target boss

runic sluice
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where are you seeing that?

sly lava
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statistics

runic sluice
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ignore that? i dunno you had 93% uptime on garrote

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looks like you clipped 2 improved garrotes

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don't do that

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let improved garrotes fall off or at least do it in the last second

sly lava
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ouka

runic sluice
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i mean you don't seem to be playing fundamentally wrong, i think just getting used to pooling and using your cds quickly will jump up your parse

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also keep in mind that there are fewer rogues so breaking into the top 10% is harder

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if there's 10,000 warrior parses for a kill you only need to be in the top 1000, if there's only 100 rogue parses you gotta be top 10. theoretically it shouldn't matter but it's just a tighter spread for rogues

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the main thing i'd be looking at is your skill breakdown for now, make sure that your skill %s are close to the same as your sims and top parses

sly lava
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guess i'll give it a try for another week before making a choice to go outlaw ;c. also dont have the best enchants etc. cuz poor life. but ty for your time

runic sluice
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eh, play what's fun

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you're not playing poor enough to be costing your guild kills

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don't worry about your parse %, especially not in heroic yet, just get the basics down and get comfortable with the spec

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the math for our guilds kill of kyveza required the dps to be doing 680k average to get the kill with time expiring (you get about 6 and a half minutes). i think you easily hit that if you use your kb and vanish

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but you can't come with us, too many people on my tier token already 🙂

sly lava
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yeah it just feels odd whe every other assa rogue i run into does better :c. so even if im not costing my guild. i hate not performing well enough

runic sluice
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yeah but you said it yourself, you just switched a few weeks ago

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being bad at something is part of the process of mastering it, and i don't even think you're "bad" at it atm

sly lava
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o7 thanks bud. hopefully it picks up.

upbeat flame
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So there’s a much bigger problem that no one addressed earlier

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You never used your hero power.

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0% uptime on your marks

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Which is very bad.
Supplements energy via DN + is a high source of damage. Always open on ambush

plucky loom
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@sly lava

sly lava
sly lava
plucky loom
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You got the man himself

upbeat flame
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I just woke up ICANT

plucky loom
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Pointing out you don't ambush in the opener

sly lava
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tell it to me like im five year old

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ah

upbeat flame
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It has to be an ambush from stealth to start your deathstalker mark chains

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So your bs procs don’t do that

sly lava
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bs procs? :c sorry i literally just follow a rotation guide idk what most of my stuff does or mean.

upbeat flame
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Blindside

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That thing that happens for free ambush

sly lava
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i've always had one thing confusing me i still dont know if its worth doing...i also use this hekili thing for rotation since i never played rogue n needed some tips.
sometimes after coming out of stealth it asked me to hit garrote x5 even tho its single target.
and some guides i saw always talking about keeping 5 garrote 1 rupture up or viceversa...i dont get why.
i get it if multiple...but on a ST

upbeat flame
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Ahhh

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Hekili

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It’s not good for Assassination

sly lava
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ah, okay.

runic sluice
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oh hell how did i miss that

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hekili is the one i tried last night and it was... very wrong almost instantly

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rotation helpers are tough, in theory they're great (if they're right) but then you don't learn how to play without them

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far better to train yourself on a dummy, even if you're going slow at first and not hitting every gcd

sly lava
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gotcha, will try. practice taim !

upbeat flame
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So like I’ll say in general it looks pretty okay

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But

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Yeah missing some big issues

upbeat flame
sly lava
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last i played rogue was in cata its so different now

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before assa kinda played like outlaw

sly lava
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@upbeat flame if you can point out the big mistakes plz. sorry, only time i'll boink you here.