#🐼 Pandaria Remix Discussion

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past kindle
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Have fun

eternal pagoda
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Hello

minor citrus
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Quickstrike doesnt seem to proc shadow techniques

fallow moon
past kindle
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prophet did mention vanish not triggering dust too

minor citrus
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if it's intended

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then it might be a very bad gem for us

past kindle
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i found roll > blink in quest content

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10 sec cooldown > 15 sec with same distance travel

eternal pagoda
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All i REALLY want now is the chicken backpack

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which requires me to do

fallow moon
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Im sure you ca do it by end of today, right? xdd

eternal pagoda
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yep xD

past kindle
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i am only 60

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but i did hear scaling is broken above 60

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and things start to hit like a truck

eternal pagoda
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Im 61rn ._.

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Leveling up only killing mobs unfortunately

past kindle
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i level with my gf

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and i thought we would take it slow

eternal pagoda
past kindle
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best transmog ^^

eternal pagoda
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In theory i have everything i wanted:

  • Class arsenal weapons & transmogs;
  • Chicken backpack;
  • Shado Pan transmog.
fallow moon
eternal pagoda
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i do see a lot of these frog farms

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i wonder what they up to

zealous osprey
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Might be lesser charms of good fortune for extra raid rolls

eternal pagoda
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xD

zealous osprey
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lol

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That’s a lot man! It was just a google search

fleet shuttle
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people are farming mobs for hours

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farming their cloak insanerly

eternal pagoda
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i did it for like 40 mins

fleet shuttle
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my guildies did it and have like 1.5m hp where im a fresh 70 and im 300k hp

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they doing like 500k on bosses as well im at 100k xD

minor citrus
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all that difference just for power in the cloak?

fleet shuttle
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yes

minor citrus
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lmao

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anyway i dropped it since i realized there's no interaction with quickstrike

fleet shuttle
eternal pagoda
fleet shuttle
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no

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its infinite grind

eternal pagoda
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._.

fleet shuttle
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this is ToT raid

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top 3 were cloak grinders

iron lion
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Yeah I'm not sure I want to engage with it much beyond using this as a vessel to level characters in a novel way

fleet shuttle
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yeah

iron lion
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Not down for an infinite grind

fleet shuttle
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it feels literally like timewalking leveling

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with op heirlooms

iron lion
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because it is

past kindle
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shadow and balance are also two of the specs which can abuse the gems well

fleet shuttle
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i am kinda looking forward to heroic raids tho

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normal ToT was kinda hard

eternal pagoda
fleet shuttle
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dark animus was much worse

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lei shen also hard

eternal pagoda
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first time i killed Leishen i was actually playing brewmaster monk

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monk back in mop was fun

fleet shuttle
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we 1shot every boss but wiped 20x on dark animus

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and 3x on lei shen

eternal pagoda
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animus is hard

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requires people to be spread

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and actually aggro

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their own mob

rotund sentinel
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anybody know what is the exact number of bronze needed for all remix mounts?

eternal pagoda
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just visit the vendor

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and do the maths

rotund sentinel
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i’m at Ross

shadow stratus
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is it easy to reroll?

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im playing paladin right now and its insanely bad to level

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im sitting here auto attacking

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i kinda wanna reroll to a SP

shadow stratus
rotund sentinel
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the auto attacking gets less as you level up more skills

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i was frustrated too with that when i made my pally a while back

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but rerolling ain’t hard if you prefer that

eternal pagoda
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What skip means

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is because of the backpiece

fleet shuttle
shadow stratus
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yea

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i kindaa wanna level a sp just because i dont have one at max level on retail

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and i already have a max lvl pally

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so i might aswell just restart for the long term

fleet shuttle
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its better to restart early

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than at max lvl

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u will waste infinite cloak farm

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on that char

shadow stratus
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do i just spam dungeons on alts?

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since i get insta access to lfg

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like do we know the fastest way to level

eternal pagoda
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so keep that in mind

shadow stratus
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does bronze carry over

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or do i need to spend the bronze thats on my pally

eternal pagoda
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it does not afaik

fleet shuttle
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buy gems on ur pally

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mail em to ur sp

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these not soulbound

little spear
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The Wowhead guide seems hella inaccurate for what gems are best for Outlaw, does anyone know what's best?

spice mural
# fleet shuttle these not soulbound

I tried doing that to mail gems from my Mage to my Rogue, but even though it let me place them in the mail window, the message refused to send.

fleet shuttle
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Trade to guildy then trade to alt

eternal pagoda
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So

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I just found a GREAT use for the lesser tokens you get from FROG farm

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you can use them to complete REP daily repeatable quests

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oh my god im swimming in gems and items

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0 dailies done

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xDD

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Keeping in mind the gear from the boxes SCALE to your level, so if you wanna save until your 70, might be better

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ALSO, these boxes award Cloak status

past kindle
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people apperently farm frogs on the timeless isles

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for noticable more bronze than from other sources

eternal pagoda
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what frogs

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they are going extint

past kindle
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i assume they will fix it

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but we will see, i don't play to grind

eternal pagoda
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you can also use 10x coins to deliver on the Rep quest givers

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and receive a box out of it + gems + cloak stats

past kindle
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ye, it seems stupid

eternal pagoda
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i went from 0 to exalted

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375 rep per delivery

fleet shuttle
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This event has bonus rep too

cedar tartan
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is there a problem with the gem "Quick Strike"? Doesn't seem to change the number of melee

jagged flare
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it has some cd but procs quite frequently

cedar tartan
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tested with and without on dummies, didnt change the number of melee

jagged flare
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that is interesting

fleet shuttle
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When the gem sims out

warm trench
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Is the leveling talents what we use at max level?

fleet shuttle
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lol frogs absolutely busted

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1 hr of farming resulted in +600 mainstat on my cloak, 40k bronze, 500 gems, and 4 exalted reputations from daily quest turn ins

jagged flare
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to be clear i did farm in timeless isle but the big mogu guys for rep for the doragon

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good times

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(also killed a lot of people for fun with censer)

past kindle
fallow moon
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pin me like one of your guide posts

past kindle
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i had to re-post because i wasn't able to pin the starting post

eternal pagoda
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When you've been hitting LFR garrosh for a while

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and he says:

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he ded naw

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rep farm goes BRRR

green quiver
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hunter / boomie

green quiver
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anyone know if theres a fast way to get shaohao rep on mop remix?

eternal pagoda
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i wonder too

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cause i need it

fleet shuttle
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found best rogue build for mop

fleet shuttle
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i think u can farm it in ordos

green quiver
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yes

fleet shuttle
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there is an elite farm

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similar to the frogs

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it gives rep and bronze

eternal pagoda
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rep with who?

fleet shuttle
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timless isle

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aka shaohao

eternal pagoda
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oh that one ill actually need

fleet shuttle
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aight

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i got 10k coins fromg frogs

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how do i unlock more reps to get exalted

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i maxed out the 4 i saw

eternal pagoda
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some you need to unlock by talking to the reps

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or starting some questlines

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like klaxxi

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oh btw

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illusion

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super underwhelming

fleet shuttle
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or quests i need to do for em

green quiver
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it sucks that theres no daily for emperor shanhao

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only rep i really care about kekdog

fleet shuttle
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i only have these maxed i think there are more dailies i havent found

eternal pagoda
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I dono really, i went to the angles's zone (there was no blue exclamation mark) and once there, talked to the npcs and then dailies appeared

fleet shuttle
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ye i dont know where the reps are tho

eternal pagoda
fleet shuttle
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ye two of those i was missing

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the blue !

eternal pagoda
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klaxxi one starts here:

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shadopan

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so far, shadopan and klaxxi vendors don't work

fleet shuttle
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but why cant i see any quest at anglers wharf

eternal pagoda
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talk to the guys randomly i guess

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that opened the dailies for me

fleet shuttle
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i had to learn fishing

eternal pagoda
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OHH

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THATS IT

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THATS IT!!

fleet shuttle
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man

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i need this addon

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but for remix

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HOLY FUCK

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it works with remix

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use this addon

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and this

past kindle
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scaling is quite stupid

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we rly need blizz to fix that

eternal pagoda
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I believe i just bugged a quest... about bugs

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Needed to "wound" an elite bug, but i totaly destroyed it

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the next quest is: kill it. BUT HE IS DEAD

fallow moon
fleet shuttle
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im hoarding 200k bronze

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for them to do nerfs to gear upgrades

fallow moon
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smart idea, worst case you just spend it later

fleet shuttle
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this

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is beautiful

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easy scrap GOATED

eternal pagoda
fleet shuttle
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thats not mine lol

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this guy challenge me to a duel

eternal pagoda
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oh

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LOL

robust lotus
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are we using enkindle and mark in raids?

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the mobs wont be hitting us therefore it wont have any value correct?

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if so what should it be replaced with

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also stun tinkers dont seem very good in raids aswell

eternal pagoda
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i mean you cant stun bosses in raids

green quiver
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they nerfed frogs

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surely they fix scaling aswell then right

elder heath
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lol just when I gave in and started to farm it too

fleet shuttle
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glad i farmed for 4h today right before fix

past kindle
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not wanting to sound to negative

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but blizz should rly:

  • fix scaling
  • massively buff currency gains
  • potentially also nerf upgrade costs
fleet shuttle
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im sure they will

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its sunday

past kindle
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possible

fleet shuttle
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im more surprised they nerf frogs today not tomorrow

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ill give u guys a hint to the new farm

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(dont post on wowhead/reddit)

eternal pagoda
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((too late))

past kindle
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the problem is, a lot of people went all in

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it now creates a huge power gap between regular players and the gridners

jagged flare
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people are already boosting normal and hc

fleet shuttle
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its fine

jagged flare
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too late the sweats won

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but they will get bored in 1 week anyway

spiral pond
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yo I just started this yesterday, what is the consensus on what spec to play

fleet shuttle
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assa seems best to me

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even while leveling

jagged flare
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all rogue specs are meh

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but you will have fun with infinite energy eventually

bold junco
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You still get all the dagger mogs even as assassin right? From the quests?

jagged flare
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yea

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but quests dont give items

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they give chests

bold junco
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They unlock the mogs

spiral pond
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that autoo attack tinker sounds bonkers for both assa and sub

jagged flare
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so then yea

bold junco
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If they would have given a weapon

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or gear

fleet shuttle
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having done all the raids without any cloak farm and now having farmed, there are a couple issues with remix blizz should address

  1. bronze gear upgrade cost is insanely high, this should be nerfed
  2. there are no sources of gear above 346, raids and heroic dungeons etc should drop higher ilvl pieces but they dont, forcing u to upgrade all
  3. in part because of 1 + 2, scaling at 70 is fucked, everything is really hard if you have base cloak + 346 gear, heroic scenarios are almost impossible without a low lvl to carry u, feels like m+30
  4. the best source of bronze in the game is mob grinding, even post frog nerf. they should buff bronze gains with a cloak multiplier or buff raids/dungeons significantly
elder heath
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My cape is maxed but can't do Ordos...

bold junco
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Im wondering if at uber cloak stats would a rogue be able to blow up raids. Hmm Trying to figure out which class would be best at omega cloak. bdk is prob easiest. But dunno past that

fleet shuttle
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a simple thing like converitng the xp multiplier into brozne % + xp % gain would fix almost all the issues

bold junco
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Since cloak scales infinitly.

fleet shuttle
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u could farm raids to get higher bronze % then everything would give bronze and u have excess to spend on gear in addition to mounts

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and u would scale in bronze gains the more you play

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oh yeah issue #5 is cloak doesnt transfer to alts and isnt account bound so leveling alts feels like waste of time when u could farm cloak for ur main

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and the leveling is pretty slow even with a maxed alt cloak

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alt gains should transfer to main cloak and vice versa

past kindle
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the amount of farm you atm need to have a good enough upgrade is insane

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unless you exploit stuff like low level carries

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idk if people are willing to spend 60-80h to get to the "fun" part

fleet shuttle
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eh i farmed frogs for 4 hours

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im already semi op

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its not that long

eternal pagoda
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How do low level carry?
Also do they need to be a specific set of specs?

fleet shuttle
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but yeah gear upgrades are a problem

past kindle
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you farmed frogs

fleet shuttle
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other farms are almost as good for cloak stats

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they just give less bronze

past kindle
fleet shuttle
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in fact other farms give MORE cloak stats

eternal pagoda
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Fuck yeah it makes sense

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Tbf I feel pretty op rn with like 2h max of frogs

elder heath
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they definitely took way too long to fix frogs

zealous osprey
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If you buy the robes of quiet reflection you might not get the shirt model as well

Edit* just took a minute to populate in my xmog not sure why it didn’t

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Kinda odd

past kindle
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frogs also do significantly lower the amount of time you needed to unlock cosmetics

eternal pagoda
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25 enough?

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hmmm

green quiver
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Maybe scale it slightly but

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Would be so sick ngl

rotund sentinel
elder heath
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its dead

rotund sentinel
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oh damn

elder heath
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timeless isle starts at 45 I think

past kindle
rotund sentinel
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frog farm dead?

past kindle
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yes, they just hotfixed it earlier

little raven
past kindle
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even tho i don#t think its 80x

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even if its as low as 5x

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means you get 1.25x with the buff

rotund sentinel
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oh i only cared about the bronze... so still worth for that?

past kindle
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yes but the lesser charms ended up beeing what made it so good

rotund sentinel
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hmm if it's better than farming dungeons for bronze ill give it a shot

past kindle
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it dramatically dropped in efficiency

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pure grind is still probably slightly faster

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but i am unsure how big the ratio is

rotund sentinel
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ok ty

past kindle
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for how boring grinding is, i wouldn't recommend (esp. after nerfs)

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rather wait and see if people come up with a efficient new way to farm

fleet shuttle
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pure grind is still better than anything else

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just at a non frog location

rotund sentinel
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any specific places?

elder heath
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They fix frogs but this tank in lfr just got hit for literal 2 million damage

minor citrus
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quickstrike still not interacting?

green quiver
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im ngl

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the august celestial toys

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are kinda meh

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only proc on use in my experience

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and doesnt even work if in shadowform at all

eternal pagoda
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they are so damn cool

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10sec CD, 8h buff

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and they keep randomly pop

green quiver
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i mean the "random" in my experience has been once every like 15 minutes

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idk if they are supposed to not proc in combat at all but uh

eternal pagoda
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i see them proc all the time

past kindle
fleet shuttle
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I replaced it with something else

minor citrus
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untill it doesnt interact

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it's low dps for rog

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only for war it's goood

rotund sentinel
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are y’all just spamming dungeons? questing? raids etc? what y’all doing for bronze

eternal pagoda
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questing xD

fleet shuttle
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is mastery bugged or something

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mastery stat give like 2x more value

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on all my gear

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already HARD dr even with only 3 gems

eternal pagoda
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Aight missing a single zone to be done with it all rewards wise. Idk if i REALLY want to do the raids. The power descrepancy between players that farmed the cloak and who didn't its SO noticeable my god.
My tank friend did not farm it, and he played almost the same time as me, and boy oh boy, he has around 400k something HP while we saw other tanks at 1000+.
Idk ._.

iron lion
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I started season 4 like 4 weeks late and felt like I wanted to catch back up so I've been trying to get raids and vault filled and so my time was there and not here

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now I just don't know if I want to

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With discrepancies so high

robust lotus
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anyone know how to farm august celestials rep?

jagged flare
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so might as well use mastery that gets extra value

fleet shuttle
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You can just wait I'm sure blizz will make some changes like buffing bronze gain or something

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But the reality of this mode is no life farmers will always be ahead just due to how cloak works. Dw about em

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You can do raid in a couple weeks if you want when your cloak is higher

eternal pagoda
fleet shuttle
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Ye this is disappointing it should be account wide

jagged flare
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so that was why the boosters in my guild were using multiple accounts

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instead of just using alts

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hmm

past kindle
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probably a level of power you now need a lot of regular farm to get to

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thats 12h of frog farm

jagged flare
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yea i linked the asmon reaction on off topic was funny

past kindle
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did they buff bronze gains

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it seemed higher than yesterday

fallow moon
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25% from what i saw

jagged flare
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they were right some children do hunger for the mines

strong roost
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i'm on the fence on holding off opening my bronze chests because I feel like another buff is coming soon

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+25% feels so underwhelming

minor citrus
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quickstrike interaction when?

fleet shuttle
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All the rogue guides recommended it but it seems it doesn't interact with sub? Do the autoatks still proc poisons more on assa?

shadow stratus
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is there a weakaura or addon that auto opens all these fucking bronze containers

minor citrus
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just fury for wars

shadow stratus
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bro i restarted on a priest

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3 seconds queues

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where i just afk

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and spam holy nova

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lmao

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this shit is funny

strong roost
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based

fleet shuttle
shadow stratus
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just watching tv shows

fleet shuttle
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Also use easy scrap addon

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For fast scrapping all the shit gear drops

shadow stratus
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ty

fleet shuttle
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Pin this wa

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Also for auto opening gem boxes I macrod it into my all my builders so it opens gems during combat

shadow stratus
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how do i auto accept all quests and shit

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whats the addon called

fleet shuttle
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autoturnin

fallow moon
rotund sentinel
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the only harm in making a new toon is starting over on a new cloak right?

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i got a couple mounts but want to get the rest on a new toon

fleet shuttle
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no clock land 入侵森林 frog genocide 藍人睡覺時在黎明時潛入 fight for territory一隻黑刺danger 10猬說話 steal money 請求他的黑暗祝福 cape advantage 搜索粉紅色的數字 return next circus

elder heath
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The only thing holding me back from the new character was getting the power 12 achievement first

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Since that maxes out the starting cloak for new alts

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I got it almost just before hitting 70

eternal pagoda
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some versa and main stat + stamina

elder heath
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well the most important one is the +100% experience

bold junco
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Are any of you playing rogue? I feel like Ive not seen any

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Ive seen like everything but rogues.

fleet shuttle
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im rogue

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assa is ok

elder heath
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I've seen exactly one rogue

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and when I looked at details I couldn't find him...

bold junco
jagged flare
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yea rogue is kinda bad

elder heath
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I really think...another rework from the ground up is needed. The levelling experience really highlights why the rogue population is so low

bold junco
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When I leveled my VE on normal I wanted to choke myself with my tendrils for half the leveling experience. it was horrid. I hoped remix could be better.

fleet shuttle
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the leveling experience was pretty awful

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as rogue

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tbh

jagged flare
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it is worse kinda as you see everyone scaling super well with cool stats

fleet shuttle
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i mean assa scales ok with stats

jagged flare
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meanwhile you have 0 energy and do shit dmg

fleet shuttle
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casters are just broken tho

jagged flare
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yea compare assa to warr

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or dk

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assa reaches a haste peak quite fast

bold junco
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Im playing a monk and its great. First time monk. I love daggers tho. Makes me sad only rogues use daggers. And Im not counting spellcasters. I mean daggers for stabby.

jagged flare
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warr is funny in that their mastery is kinda op but they could never stack it

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but now they can

bold junco
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But I dread trying rogue on remix. pikaCringe

jagged flare
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and colossus increases dmg by 200% on the target

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meanwhilñe

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our finishers do

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SOME extra dmg

elder heath
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bring back expose armor and bake it into our finishers and make it our raid buff

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Honestly they need to make sinister strike a satisfying button to press

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would help levelling and max level rogue

bold junco
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Think if more stats transfered rogue would feel better?

elder heath
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Not sure, it's a hard problem to solve for sure

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only bandaid I can think of is to move echoing reprimand waaay up in the tree, might help levelling

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a hard hitting ability on a short cooldown that helps you get out more finishers. can't think of anything else in the current tree to move up that would help as much as that

bold junco
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How are they at max tho?

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Fun nukers?

eternal pagoda
bold junco
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What target dummy did you beat up?

eternal pagoda
bold junco
eternal pagoda
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I was doing normal mode siege

bold junco
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Whats doing your damage?

eternal pagoda
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mostly ward of salvation

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like everyone else

bold junco
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Oh ward tricks

jagged flare
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i mean rogue doing 300k seems ok

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but sp is doing 4m

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i wonder how much we can do even omegacracked mode

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but guess the people that no lifed went for real classes

fleet shuttle
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u guys are being baited its just people who bought gear upgrades or not

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sp is a good absue class yes

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but rogue will be fine at that lvl of gear as well

jagged flare
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i expect all clases to have most of the dmg from the tinker thingies yea

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but rogue will just do less not much you can do

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but hey assa with millions of haste must be fun

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likely sub will just be how big can we make sec tech!

eternal pagoda
bold junco
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If one class can deal 4billion to that 3mil mob and you can only do 5million then theyre clearly better people.

eternal pagoda
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hello and welcome to a garrosh wipe at 9mins

bold junco
eternal pagoda
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garrosh died

iron lion
eternal pagoda
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Thats how you kill bosses

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xD

rotund sentinel
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wtf

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haxor for sure

primal pine
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ME

eternal pagoda
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I am man, lets goooooooooooooo

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i love BK

primal pine
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Tomorrow night is my last night to work and I'm going to absolutely farm remix. I'm so excited

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What are you playing?

eternal pagoda
primal pine
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Class and stuff

eternal pagoda
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you can.... see above xD

primal pine
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Actually I can't. I ran out of high-speed data so images don't load OMEGAKEKW

eternal pagoda
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oh LOL

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Playing rogue, assa

primal pine
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I just took your word for it lol

eternal pagoda
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i was just bragging being #1 dps

primal pine
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Hell yeah thats the Royal I know

eternal pagoda
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(its a guy doing fingers gun)

primal pine
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Ayyyy it loaded

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Literally me rn to you doing big dam

lime sinew
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are the normal raids hard

lime sinew
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Nvm

iron lion
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LOL the "make your healer shit themselves" button

distant briar
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ive seen a guy w full epics, do u know how tf that guy got all that fast? xdd

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i barely have one from a rare

lime sinew
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Frogs

lime sinew
iron lion
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Are the contents of unopened chests determined based on the level you open them at, or the level you obtained the chest at?

lime sinew
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It felt like opened but I cannot confirm

past kindle
primal pine
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That reminds me of the "driving is a race" animation

primal pine
iron lion
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Is there any reason to use the bronze item upgrader while still leveling? I figure any of these pieces will just be replaced as I level and spending bronze on them will be a waste

jagged flare
#

use them on mastery gear

#

it has 2x the stats

primal pine
#

Are things as unbalanced as people claim? I really can't wait to start playing

jagged flare
#

content is easy enough to not care but people are sweaty

lime sinew
#

I got carried through raid by a level 19 priest so it’s kinda whatever

primal pine
#

I love it

lime sinew
#

I got in a heroic scenario with a level 12 enhance sham and I couldn’t keep aggro off him

#

As a 70 dh

eternal pagoda
#

Good old times of arcane mage lvl 10

past kindle
#

i would also hold on to upgrade atm, and see what blizz does

#

the bronze costs are absurd

eternal pagoda
#

You know what's absurd? SoO

#

I've forgotten how many fucking bosses the raid actually has

jagged flare
#

it was so funny

eternal pagoda
#

I killed a bunched of them yesterday and I still miss like 4 for the achiev

primal pine
#

Are there new items in the raids?

eternal pagoda
#

Just more 346 items

primal pine
#

Oh that's not too many

#

Ezpz

velvet pier
#

i want to do this after CN server back

#

rn i just want to hold my interest on it

brave robin
# eternal pagoda You know what's absurd? SoO

did it yesterday

beyond the ussual "holy shit the absolute giga casuals that use 1 ability every 10seconds" crowd making everything take years, i really forgot how much i hated SoO for its lenght lol

#

tbh, did all raids now 1x and dont see a reason to ever enter them again

eternal pagoda
#

Bosses dropping like flies

brave robin
#

4people died to the star, including both healers?

eternal pagoda
#

Nop

#

Everyone did.

hard bramble
#

Hahaha

eternal pagoda
#

JKJK

hard bramble
#

Was it in the spooky zone?

eternal pagoda
#

That's was my LFR experience

brave robin
#

idk, will just sometimes do mogu normal for bronze i gues, and thats it with the raids for me

eternal pagoda
#

We wiped the 1st time at 9:30min mark

hard bramble
#

Terrace normal takes about 10 - 15 minutes for about 2.5 / 3k bronze a day whic isn't terrible.

#

Mogu seems to take about 30 minutes max with a vaguely okay group

eternal pagoda
hard bramble
#

I'm wondering what the most efficent way to grind 38530 bronze is

brave robin
#

needed 7tries for Dark Animus btw

#

cus some people didnt understood "dont use cleave/aoe skills for 3seconds"

spark spruce
#

To the first Boss

#

400 threads and 500 bronze

#

Can Do it 10 Times a hour

hard bramble
#

That's pretty good

#

I'll try it tomororw

spark spruce
#

But need to be tank

#

Or good dps / leech

hard bramble
#

Yeah

#

I wonder if I can solo it

jagged flare
#

you can gem armor

spark spruce
#

With my bear its a 3 min per rub

hard bramble
#

Nice

#

I will def try it

#

38530 per gear level tier, so.. not the worst grind

spark spruce
#

I recommend using blink

#

Because they stun

hard bramble
#

Good idea, thanks

#

Probably gonna aim to get everything 400+ which is about 80k

spark spruce
#

Im atm at 405

#

Feels nice

hard bramble
#

I already feel indestructable in all content except Heroic

#

(Raids)

spark spruce
#

Ye

brave robin
#

are there even purple items btw

hard bramble
#

Yeah, I have two

#

Both dropped from timeless isle rares

brave robin
#

except ring/neck

hard bramble
brave robin
#

and is there any difference lol

hard bramble
#

They have a tiny bit of bonus statting on them, in that SS the haste

brave robin
#

wow, so nothing really tbh

hard bramble
#

It might add up at higher levels but yeah

#

blue is good enough

brave robin
#

just gonna push some blue items to 360 then for the zones peeposhrug

#

and im done after that, got all i want tbh

jagged flare
#

I'm on the mastery train

#

i will stop when i get to more than 1000

#

or maybe 2000 might be possible

hard bramble
#

1000%?

jagged flare
#

yea

brave robin
#

my evoker is sitting at 98% mastery lmao

hard bramble
#

hell yes

jagged flare
#

well evoker mastery scales diff than sub

#

it is like saying on a warr you have 80%

#

that is a metric ton

brave robin
#

btw, the remix made me hate Aug even more

#

cus holy shit devestation is a blast to play

#

would legit stop with the entire game if somebody told me "play aug now" dracthyr_kek

jagged flare
#

play aug and do badlyu

brave robin
#

back2back2backback2back2back Disintergrate casts make my brain send out the happy happy chemicals

hard bramble
#

Haha, yeah

#

I'm sad I didn't go harder on frogs, but oh well

stuck zinc
#

what sould we play ? sub or assa ?

spark spruce
#

Because its purple

spark spruce
terse belfry
#

what spec is good to play now?

#

for the event

#

or should i better try another class as a rogue 1trick

brave robin
#

one of the main draws is leveling other classes you think about playing for TWW mate

jagged flare
#

you can play whatever you want

#

rogue is painful to lvl but we dont really care

#

already 20 years in

#

i can stomach some hours of angst

spark spruce
#

Its so fast

terse belfry
#

i like the rogue playstyle a lot

jagged flare
#

then come aboard the pain train

terse belfry
#

i sure will

brave robin
terse belfry
#

need to start again quit before season 4 bc no time for mythic raiding

eternal pagoda
# spark spruce Its so fast

My prot pala friend "do you wanna finish the portals before reset this week?"
Boy I don't know how to play without 100% haste anymore

fleet shuttle
#

my guildy is soloing HoF heroic trash before 1st boss repeatedly for threads/bronze lol

#

i can only do like 2 mobs tho

#

kinda sucks

#

its like 200 threads and 5k bronze for 10 mins work

spark spruce
#

Not 5k

#

Heroic gives almost the same as normal

#

i tried that yesterday

#

Unless they changed something 24 hours ago

#

Because normal HoF gives about 400 threads and 500 Bronze

fleet shuttle
#

well yes

#

but you run it 10x

#

until u hit instance lockout

#

thats 5k bronze in 10-15mins

#

pretty good

hard bramble
#

Very good. I've been doing ordon grinding andi t's just not time efficent enough.

fleet shuttle
#

i stopped doing any grinds until blizz patch

#

i was willing to do frogs because it was hyper efficient and i knew it would be patch soon

hard bramble
#

Ordon was about 500 charms every hour and a half. It's just not at all worth it.

fleet shuttle
#

dont wanna waste my time if they buff bronze by 50% in 2 days u know

hard bramble
#

Yeah, super easy to burn out too

spark spruce
#

Becuase you cant farm more than 10x

fleet shuttle
#

ye but in terms of

#

time efficiency

#

it beats everything else

spark spruce
#

Fair

fleet shuttle
#

u just run it for 10 mins every hour

#

id rather do that

hard bramble
#

10 minutes grind, 50 minute work

fleet shuttle
#

exactly

#

u can do that all day

#

its sustainable

hard bramble
#

I wonder what power level you need to be to do it

fleet shuttle
#

too bad i cant solo cause im not tank spec

#

and i didnt upgrade my gear

#

holding 250k bronze for blizz nerfs

spark spruce
#

Well 1 run takes about 2-3 mins

fleet shuttle
#

depends how op you are

spark spruce
#

I doubt they nerf prices

#

im 405

hard bramble
#

Yeha they'll def buff bronze gain, not nerf prices

#

I'm 340 atm

spark spruce
#

they will prolly just buff bronz gain

#

prices would cuck so many people now

hard bramble
#

374 every slot except a few 388 pieces and no neck

green quiver
#

gear prices are so disproportionate to cosmetics though

hard bramble
#

Yeah haha

fleet shuttle
#

wdym

#

they will definitely nerf gear upgrade costs

spark spruce
#

No

fleet shuttle
#

its an easy way to catch people to froggers

spark spruce
#

I doubt that

fleet shuttle
#

and they are INSANELY high

#

relative to cosmetic

spark spruce
#

Wdym

hard bramble
#

38530 to do an entire iLevel upgrade
Every single Class Armour Set (discounting the free achievement one) is 48k

spark spruce
#

i get like 100K by doing normal stuff

fleet shuttle
#

1 2h weapon upgrade is like 2 mounts

fleet shuttle
#

1 ilvl upgrade

#

on all ur gear

#

xD

spark spruce
#

thats almost 3

#

but ok

hard bramble
#

It's 38530 to upgrade everything a tier

#

4500 +3375 +4500 +2530 +3375 +3375 +4500 +3375 +9000 = 38530

spark spruce
#

But you would fuck so many honest people

#

who didnt farm frogs

#

and upgraded early

hard bramble
#

The best solution is double or triple bronze gain

fleet shuttle
#

so?

spark spruce
#

no way they nerf prices

fleet shuttle
#

its better for player power in future

#

unless they massively wanna buff bronze gains

spark spruce
#

I think you dont udnerstand

fleet shuttle
#

which just means people finish mode in 1 week

spark spruce
#

idk

fleet shuttle
#

only people that sent upgrades are froggers really

hard bramble
#

Realistically it should've just been 1k per slot (2k for a two-hander) and done. Would've been like 10 - 12k per full ilevel rank.

#

Which is super easy

spark spruce
#

No

#

wdym

fleet shuttle
#

casuals just buying cosmetics

#

because price is so prohibitive

spark spruce
#

1 ret in my guild is 380

#

with normal question etc

#

he already got cucked by caches not giving retroactively bronze

#

You want to punish honest people even more

#

or what

fleet shuttle
#

how can u not say gear upgrade is disgusting

#

its not punishing

#

they get cheaper future upgrades

spark spruce
#

Its punishing to everyone who upgraded and got bronze honest

fleet shuttle
#

iuts not

#

they get cheaper

spark spruce
#

DUDE

#

When they spent 150K already

fleet shuttle
#

retroactive

#

doesnt mean shit

spark spruce
#

What is so hard to understand that you punish everyone who already upgraded

brave robin
#

the mistake was simply that they made the cosmetic resource and the "gear upgrade" resource the same thing

and that gear upgrades are a thing in the first place lol

spark spruce
#

when you nerf it now

hard bramble
#

100% should've been two currencies

brave robin
#

i mean

#

why is there even gear upgrading

#

in a time limited fun mode lol

hard bramble
#

Just having stuff constantly drop a thigher ilevels would been better too, yeah

#

It capping at 346 is so silly

spark spruce
#

honestly

#

because both run about like 3 months, with season 4 prolly more like 4

#

can also ask why do we have to farm gear in a fun season

#

Thats the case for every "season"

hard bramble
#

I have 12k bronze atm. Do I buy 3 armour sets or upgrade a few pieces, hm.

brave robin
#

the big thing is

#

WHY do you wanna upgrade

hard bramble
#

So I can do content easier

#

and earn bronze quicker

spark spruce
#

So you can farm easier

brave robin
#

if your goal is doing mythic, sure

but like, upgrading to 374 makes gear allready op if you just do the normal stuff

spark spruce
#

374 is op for open world

brave robin
#
  • the cloak which endless stacks up and up
hard bramble
#

Yep

spark spruce
#

but for isntances

hard bramble
#

I'd like to be strong enough to do the HoF thing

spark spruce
#

374 is not "op"

hard bramble
#

Because that's gonna be the most efficent thing

#

I got some purple pants which have 357 leech and 1,107 avoidanc eon them byd efault. Pretty big pants.

spark spruce
#

Well thats wasted im sorry kekdog

#

Everything that doesnt boost your DMG

hard bramble
#

BIG AVOIDANCE

spark spruce
#

Is kind off wasted imo

hard bramble
#

Yeah I agree but the blues I had were speed so lol

#

marginally better

spark spruce
#

I got Epic pants with double haste

hard bramble
#

gimme

#

We can't incease the ring / neck / trinket iLevel at all, right?

spark spruce
#

No

#

I also have epic staff

#

With mastery on it

hard bramble
#

Yeah I'd love a purple weapon

#

But alas, heroic groupsa re a pain to get into. And also dumb.

#

..Should just make my own

spark spruce
#

Ye you need a lot of gear

#

to get into hero

hard bramble
#

Most want to do ward cheese (understandable) and do not know how to do ward cheese

spark spruce
#

Just pop it all together on off-tank

#

and spam heals on him

hard bramble
#

TOO COMPLEX for a lot of pugs

spark spruce
#

But i have the feeling Frenzied doesnt work on that

hard bramble
#

I don't think it does, no

spark spruce
#

because i had like 1,5 million hps with it

#

and it didnt work kekdog

#

Well its still worth for the 20% more healing taken also using bark

hard bramble
#

I was in a HoF earlier where we were trying to do it on me with a Warrior MT. I'd get aggro immediately and it wouldn't work. After the third boss someone inspected this guy and he had no shield, no tinkers, no coghweel, and no meta gem.

#

Just incredibly funny

spark spruce
#

Also some gems work against shield

hard bramble
#

Yeah, I assume the one which eats it is bad.

#

Which is wy Istopped running ti

#

I'm wondering if Fervour is bad too, but it does specify health

spark spruce
#

Well

#

I was the target yesterday

#

and it worked one time

hard bramble
#

I've found confusion if you need to put it on at 1s before pull. Or tag the enemy then put it on.

spark spruce
#

But they also didnt BL right away

#

and i dont know if healers overhaled like crazy

hard bramble
#

I've seen it work doing both ways, but I think the key is people doing it properly. On the right target.

spark spruce
#

and at once

hard bramble
#

Yeah

spark spruce
#

and not staggered

hard bramble
#

I saw someone adamant he was doing it right while constantly casting it on himself

#

I'm sorta hoping they adjust it while massively buffing everything else

fleet shuttle
#

quick strikes and brittle pretty ass

#

and wildfire

#

ive been running hailstorm/meteor storm/incendiary fire instead

#

also storm overload kinda ass

spark spruce
#

brittle is such a bait

#

ye

#

Storm overload only does dmg in Aoe ye

hard bramble
#

mark of arrogance on a tank is amazing

#

A lot of them seem a bit lackluster

spark spruce
#

If ticking dmg also good on DPS

fleet shuttle
#

Does huge DPS for low levels

#

But lvl 70 it's zero dps for some reason

bold junco
#

I want quick strikes to not suck just cause I like the idea of it so much.

#

But my feeling in practice Sadge

fleet shuttle
#

It would be so sick with shadowcraft

fallow moon
brave robin
#

the existence of shadowcraft implies that lightcraft exists

#

i got a talent idea for the current wow protagonist spec!

minor citrus
#

mage?

eternal pagoda
#

got my first one boys

hard bramble
#

Hell yeah

brave robin
spark spruce
#

@hard bramble

#

Btw as feral kekdog

hard bramble
#

lmfao

#

Amazing

eternal pagoda
#

well well well

#

the party is over?

spark spruce
#

Nah still works

#

Just the 20% more heal with iron Bark doesnt work anymore

eternal pagoda
#

just finished SoO and we either oneshot bosses or barely did any dmg with bigbang

hard bramble
#

I just did ToT and we were still chunking bosses with it, using me as the bear bomb.

#

I think it's just fiddly.

spark spruce
#

btw

#

If there is a boss with mind control tactics

#

get dots on the boss before

#

boss kills it self

hard bramble
#

Yeah, 100% seconding that.

spark spruce
#

Look at the normal hit

hard bramble
#

I did HoF earlier. Got MC'd with a moonfire on the boss. Boss took a tick of 63m damage and exploded.

spark spruce
#

i let myself get mced at last boss

hard bramble
#

Ye. My off-tank didn't taunt when I was doing it. I asked "Please taunt" at 4 stacks and they just did a winky face at me.

#

And then I found out THE SECRET POWER

spark spruce
#

same for garrosh tbh

hard bramble
#

Yeah

fleet shuttle
#

havent seen a bigger cloak

spark spruce
#

Since when does this exist

fleet shuttle
#

whats this

#

where u see that

spark spruce
#

I got this from xuen

#

180 Mastery

hard bramble
#

It's just been added

#

It's in the LFG now too

spark spruce
#

Prolly can get 1 per day?

hard bramble
#

Yeah.

#

Maybe every world boss + LFG heroic / normal?

spark spruce
#

So world boss gives 1 legendary thread

#

and lfg purple

hard bramble
#

I don't think I did Sha today so I'll go check him in a moment

fleet shuttle
#

oh

#

thats the lfg +7% xp thing

#

rofl

#

what

#

did they just buff bosses or

eternal pagoda
#

What?!

hard bramble
#

lmao maybe

spark spruce
fleet shuttle
#

heroic

spark spruce
#

oh well

fleet shuttle
#

maybe hc bosses just big

hard bramble
#

Big prizes though

spark spruce
#

You had a big group

hard bramble
#

100 for a purple big thread, 180 for legendary. Stamina is doubled.

spark spruce
#

we couldnt do horridon

fleet shuttle
#

dark animus took like

#

1 hr

#

complete shit boss

spark spruce
#

Like this was horridon

hard bramble
#

Jesus

spark spruce
#

and i died

fleet shuttle
#

this

spark spruce
#

we didnt kill him

fleet shuttle
#

was horridon

hard bramble
#

lol I like the monk name

spark spruce
#

Oh

#

the big cloak

fleet shuttle
#

i remember bigproblemo yesterday

#

he was in our hc raid

#

getting 5x gapped by our spriest

#

ye big cloak guy is legit boosting whole guild

#

its funny

spark spruce
#

does every worldboss give legendary thread

hard bramble
#

Doing galleon atm

#

will let you know

#

..Or not as I tihnk the server just died.

green quiver
hard bramble
spark spruce
#

ye

#

i got a second

hard bramble
#

So 180 * 5 daily from world bosses. pretty big

fleet shuttle
#

what world bosses

drowsy crest
#

Yo anyone using any weird talent builds specifically for mop remix?

#

To cheese stuff

spark spruce
spark spruce
#

But Problem still Bronze

green quiver
#

do you get any of these new threads from raid

spark spruce
#

Idk

#

But doing daily heroic and stuff

#

Give 100

#

Worldbosses give 180

green quiver
#

they even give 200

#

since you also get lesser thread

#

damn

fleet shuttle
#

I just finished heroic tot and got a legendary spool

distant briar
#

got kicked from a dungeon when i warned the guys to requeue to another dungeon cuz 1st boss from jade serpent temple is bugged

#

ate 30m as deserter nice

eternal pagoda
#

._.

distant briar
#

BTW boss isnt spawning shit

#

so try queuing as specific if isnt the first one in the day

drowsy crest
#

is this a flat 30% increase

#

is it affected by dr

spark spruce
#

flat

fallow moon
#

talent should be renamed to Servant Assassin

spark spruce
#

That timeless isle worldbosses still reset with meta gems

hard bramble
#

yeah, lmao

#

How is that not fixed

robust lotus
#

Not important because it’s not fun

#

Wards however

fleet shuttle
#

Better nerf goats

spark spruce
#

they still viable?

jagged flare
#

baaaaaaaaa

hard bramble
#

a guy in an LFR I'm in:

#

he has 8.7m hp

jagged flare
#

made diff

#

he played maplestory

green quiver
#

all these people thinking they can get op now aswell because threads are acquireable

#

while just upgrading a 2h weapon gives the exact same power as this one cloak

jagged flare
#

weapons have a cap

#

maybe he already upgraded it to the limit

#

it is not even that much for these degens

green quiver
#

nah true but

#

people arent reaching the 3-4m DPS on raid bosses with conventional farming anymore

#

just cant get the bronze needed unless you play for the next 3 months

jagged flare
#

well now there is just a different farm

#

but some boosters are already doing 4 to 5 accounts in diff instances and other things

#

so when there is a will there is a way

#

the more powerful you get the less boosters you need per raid and the cut is higher

green quiver
#

I mean all they should literally do is make gear drop 1 level higher than what you have on now

#

and it only increases when you get all pieces to that ilvl, then upgrades again

#

that way you can still upgrade gear if you get turbo unlucky, but doing dungeons / raids also feels useful

spark spruce
#

THe LFR doesnt have shared ID right