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scenic sigilBOT Mar 13, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:47 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FwgCXHbPTADRJW3x#fight=last&type=damage-done

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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ur first opener isnt optimal, should be RTB -> AR -> SND, BF + ghostly strike as first damage opener in a pack

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for combo points

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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did yall die a ton or something

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:49 AM

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then u rtb again with loaded dice buff

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theres 2 deaths logged

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from the priest

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:54 AM

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dim marlin did yall die a ton or something

yeah zero deaths other than 2 from priest

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:54 AM

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merry palm ur first opener isnt optimal, should be RTB -> AR -> SND, BF + ghostly strike as...

i see

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 4:54 AM

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doesnt fix the low adren uptime

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:55 AM

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dim marlin doesnt fix the low adren uptime

yeah 67%

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rip

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:55 AM

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hmm

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u dont vanish after ur first shadow dance crackshot

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ur not even in stealth going into the next pack

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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i think i remember that one is mb and

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it was a chain pull i think

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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oh wait u were in stealth

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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oh

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nbm then

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there were a few chain pulls from sanguine

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he just ran into next pack

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my adren is so low tho yeah

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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you also adren into bladeflurry

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:56 AM

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wait let me check another log

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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pretty frequently

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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i do do that

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zfknYvXw1HAbgcRd#fight=65&type=auras

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adren at 84% here

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 4:57 AM

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basically alolt of your combo points are being wasted

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

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hmm i see

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

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are u using slice and dice

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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ya

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 4:59 AM

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oh u use it so late

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vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:00 AM

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oh

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is that too late

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:00 AM

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thats minor, just noticed it lol

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:00 AM

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this is a super old black rook 25

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kA1Qj3wy2PaZqgRd#fight=2&type=damage-done

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i even died twice

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think it was december or some shit

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compare the cast sequence of normalcy and youll see alot of differences

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diving into outlaw logs are hard when we dont know how long you held certains tuff

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youre base knowledge is high but you need to know when to press buttons that give you higher gen to dump ratio especially in packs

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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I see

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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also i dunno if this is weird

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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but you dont hold stuff right

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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but your bf uptime is low

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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as a pack ends

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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i never hold

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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or anything

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ok

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good

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:02 AM

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you dont need to hold as outlaw

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everything important is saved

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except ghost strike

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:03 AM

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yea u can pretty safely dump adren rush even as a pack is dying because u just go into stealth right away if u can

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:03 AM

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dim marlin but your bf uptime is low

may be the run

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like the DHT

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its at 95%

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:04 AM

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hmm dunno then after you reach a certain threshold of outlaw competentcy its hard to find flaws with just logs

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at around 80-90% it becomes basically impossible to find flaws in logs only

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cdr classes be like dat

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only way is to record a run and find flaws in your rotation in real time

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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i mean everything you guys are saying is prob right but

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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alot easier to scrutinize specific pulls than a whoel dungeon

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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i do think that brh was rlly bad

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something about the pulls

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and sanguine made it weird

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

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were you the person with heal negation ?

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i forgot if veng stil has heal cut

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omegalol

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:06 AM

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dim marlin were you the person with heal negation ?

its from the non lethal poison i think

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can u guys take a quick look at this one

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hGTCRF2fnyv3LPZY#fight=64&type=damage-done

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i think its a more accurate run for me

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than that brh

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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wait

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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spiteful week

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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whya re you using accelerating hourglass

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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dim marlin whya re you using accelerating hourglass

i swapped it

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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SusgeNoted

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:07 AM

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to uhh

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whats it called

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the brh one

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with vers

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:08 AM

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i see

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hmmSip

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:08 AM

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vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:08 AM

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dim marlin i see

it wasnt equipped for the brh

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but ya

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other than that

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lapse of judgement hehe

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teehee

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avihehe

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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ur damage seems fine, u just dont have a bandoier to help pad ur aoe damage

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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merry palm ur damage seems fine, u just dont have a bandoier to help pad ur aoe damage

mm i guess but

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hGTCRF2fnyv3LPZY#fight=64&type=damage-done&source=733&pull=2

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this pull is weird

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

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the stuff you pointed out from the first pull seemed major

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issues

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:10 AM

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u dont open with blade flurry here

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unless it was on cd

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:11 AM

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yeah

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hmm i see

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idr at that point

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ok so

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overall im at ~3100 rn, do u guys think i need a lot of improvement to go higher?

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or even to be here

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thoughts

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:12 AM

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well rotational efficacy is the minimum

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any higher then 25s you start running into specific problems

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kick rotation, defensive rotation, ect ect

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:12 AM

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wait, why do u AR into RTB so often

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:12 AM

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in order to go higher you need to usually build a team and break down a dungeon and stuff

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only time you rtb in adr is pull 1

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:13 AM

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i see u waste a gcd right after AR for an RTB some times

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:13 AM

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but yea climbing is less about doing ooga booga damage

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and more about finding like minded and skilled individuals who are there to push together

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much like raiding

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you can pug for sure but the cliques of pugs are also exclusive usually

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they only wait for specfic players within their acceptance to ever join

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:14 AM

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ur AR into bf sometimes in this throne log as well

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:14 AM

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dim marlin but yea climbing is less about doing ooga booga damage

mm i mean i think cc usage, mechanics, kicks are ok im pretty new to this class which is why im struggling with alot of the rotational stuff

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so i just assumed thats what could hold me back if anything

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:14 AM

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merry palm ur AR into bf sometimes in this throne log as well

like i do this stuff alot haha

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:14 AM

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well outlaws dont lose

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to anyone

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dont lose in damage ever

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das the only goal

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:14 AM

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not even ret?

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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fuck ret

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spit on him

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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i lose alot to ret

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well

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yeah actually i do

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i think

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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outlaw is highest overall everytime as long as you dont have a top 0.001%er grouip

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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not by much but the aoes are similar and then they pull ahead in boss

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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losing is not allowed

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beat everyone

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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dim marlin outlaw is highest overall everytime as long as you dont have a top 0.001%er grou...

i see

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well this was very insightful

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ty team

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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losing to other classes isnt allowed

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dont do it

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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LOL

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:15 AM

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bring shame to family

vagrant cypress Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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i am new to family

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dont know rule

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sry

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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ok sometimes we lose to spriest

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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did u start lady nazj without stealth?

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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but thats not allowed iether

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only the best best spriest beat us

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 AM

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oh spiteful week

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:17 AM

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oh yeah farm spiteful hard

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:17 AM

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yea u can smack those bois for cdr

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no reason not to if u cant get into stealth

dim marlin Mar 13, 2024, 5:17 AM

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dont even stun em

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just evasion and ignore

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leaving bf range not worf

torpid orbit Mar 13, 2024, 5:34 AM

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talent riposte this week to spite the spitefuls

merry palm Mar 13, 2024, 5:35 AM

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its not spiteful week this week

torpid orbit Mar 13, 2024, 5:36 AM

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oh, then dont. haha

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