Last Epoch

[versed meadow]

On

To buy giga bases or smth

But swapping to COF if you have to will just ruin you

[hollow sparrow]

my only problem with cof is prophecy rerolling UI

I guess it's kinda the same with MG

UI/UX is not their strong suit in item factions department

[full zephyr]

navigating to prophecy list/weaver tree takes too many clicks

[versed meadow]

Turning off the pop ups made it easier

But yeah still mousing over everything

[full zephyr]

baited agane

[queen ember]

Where’s your health pool

[naive crag]

nah havent killed it

but im at work rn in a little break i had i managed to get him to heal

sadly he went middle then did the slam

LUL

that buggerino

[naive crag]

whole life is endurance treshold because of boots

also have to get 6 more hp and ward idols

when i finish i will have around 3700 life

[queen ember]

[naive crag]

today is slam day and maybe killing some more harbingers/abe

then tomorrow i push

[naive crag]

think the play is to go cof at the beginning to get the cheap uniques that make you able to clear fast

[primal plank]

Tank mode => 2.8k hp

[naive crag]

yea boots go hard

can tank triple flail depending on ward

but as i said to oxi i will get around 1k hp more

it is less dmg loss to get idols etc than to change gloves

for some reason i cant tank the bowling hall tho

that shit does infine dmg

[primal plank]

that shit was easier to tank than triple flail for me

maybe it's different type of dmg or something

[woeful bolt]

pretty nice change

[hollow sparrow]

yes please

[hollow sparrow]

why 10 harbies echo is so overtuned

[full zephyr]

not sure what the reason for that echo is

maybe its to farm harbi drops with higher LP chance?

[full zephyr]

lmao, nemesis picking the ass amulet to go 2lp

[full zephyr]

looks like they nefed red ring imprints?

good time to start farming them again it seems

[subtle jolt]

ye

did they say they did

or is it still stealth

cuz they did it like . . a week ago?

[full zephyr]

it just feels like a generic item type prophecy

im getting random ass rings and bows all the time but not exact imprinted items

[subtle jolt]

that..

thats not a bug

huh

thats literally what it said in the flavor text

weird

[full zephyr]

yeah and it didnt work

it only dropped the imprinted items

[subtle jolt]

I didnt feel like i was dropping THAT Many red rings

hm

[full zephyr]

I got 1 from the imprints in about 10 days of play time

and 2 from prophecies

[subtle jolt]

Ive sen maybe 8

over a few days

like yeah, thats more than normal

but that doesnt feel like 'results in other items not being able to drp'

[full zephyr]

I have 3

[subtle jolt]

maybe it was a bug that could happen from time to time?

and not always

[full zephyr]

now I want 2 more with 1LP

so thats going to be a hard ask

[subtle jolt]

ye

it probably was a bug that could occur

but not super common

is my guess

[full zephyr]

got a bunch of dogshit 3lp and 4 lp rings in 350k so far

[subtle jolt]

yeahhh

I killed uber and decided to chill now

that was pain

[full zephyr]

I killed uber on bm as well so Im going to go for a falconer now

if I dont get bored before that

3 lp baits and one actual ring

0lp though

first prophecy pop of a 300k pull

[hollow sparrow]

dunno if I have it in me to kill Uber

[distant folio]

I've seen both versions. Double dagger is geared more towards the Midnight Aviary scaling which is much better on bosses. I think Talons is better to clear with

[hollow sparrow]

so far I didn't enjoy doing it, guess that's how non-meta feels on regular

[distant folio]

Having done it on meta I can't imagine doing it on non meta

It's just...too much

[full zephyr]

is there much of a difference in the rest of the gear?

[hollow sparrow]

it's just visual and mechanical vomit, and soft enrage with balls

[distant folio]

None I believe

[full zephyr]

ah, thats fine then, im trying to get 1LP red rings now, ive got a crit one and a 0lp

and 2x 16str my BM uses

[distant folio]

I use Jungle Queen as well instead of beer but you can use either.

[full zephyr]

I have a sick nasty 1lp shattered worlds

[subtle jolt]

My main problem is its basically impossible to do it without execute swapping

[distant folio]

Queen for damage and some dodge which I prefer since if you get hit you'll die most likely

[subtle jolt]

(probably 3 builds can do it without? but even then they are doing it too)

[full zephyr]

BM does pretty big damage

no execute swap needed

but babysitting birds is big cancer

[distant folio]

Definitely don't need the cull on Falconer and they have it built it too at 16%

[subtle jolt]

I think its slam boy, bird boy, and snapshot boy who can do it

[distant folio]

But that's Falconer

[full zephyr]

I needed 10 tries I think to kill on BM and it was pretty much just crows dying and portal out

big cringe

they really like not moving from mega degens even if you tell them to

and moving back into big slam

[subtle jolt]

I can say i wouldnt have killed as HS if i didnt execute

[full zephyr]

do I want all of the skills at +4?

I assume so

[subtle jolt]

uhm

probably

[full zephyr]

natty drop

lets go

[versed meadow]

Bro the search changes are great

[naive crag]

regex is massive

[full zephyr]

I have not done anything with stash tabs all season i just buy more

Who knows whats in there

I also noticed when you nemesis egg it auto filters to lp0

[versed meadow]

ys

yes

i love it

[subtle jolt]

You don't your stash setup to auto filter stuff?

[full zephyr]

I just separate exalts, legendaries/uniques

and I have tabs for crafting

but not by slots or anything

[full zephyr]

we did it

[naive crag]

niiice

did that get cof tagged

[full zephyr]

no

[naive crag]

oh then you can make big bucks

[subtle jolt]

isnt he offline

or was that someone else

[full zephyr]

solo af

I need to proc 1LP on one more ring

[subtle jolt]

i got my 2 16 dex red rings

next 1lps i see are getting turtled

and gonna try to get a 2lp

[full zephyr]

I have 2x16str

and random ass purples

[subtle jolt]

you should do the

tpose mage

[full zephyr]

my little graveyard

ill just level the falconer and maybe farm it later

one of them has crit chance which isnt entirely useless I think

[subtle jolt]

ehh

better as a send onto a bad 1lp

to reroll stats

i fear

[full zephyr]

imprints are garbage though

all of my drops have been prophecies

[naive crag]

you kinda need to speedrun for imprints to go hard

[full zephyr]

maybe I wont even like the falconer enough to farm another 1lp so eh

[naive crag]

they also dont drop that much for me

[full zephyr]

I got literally 0

and even running favor cache maps I got 2 of my imprinted bows I think

[subtle jolt]

I think

falconer is probably the most boring thing ever

Im already not a fan of pet builds but this puts it to the extreme

ur falcon may as well put the armor on and you walk around in a loincloth

[full zephyr]

Im playing minions right now

Controlling crows on uber was cancer ngl

[subtle jolt]

Well

it's not a 'real' pet build

i just prefer to be the one doing the dmg

weird brain thing

[versed meadow]

Bro I’m struggling with it rn

[versed meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iftadhmwOY

this looks interesting

mapping looks uh

interesting

lmao

[full zephyr]

they put the mapping showcase at the beginning on purpose

because that shit looks ass

[subtle jolt]

[hollow sparrow]

shame it's a 1hander

[full zephyr]

what is the secret for this game to not run like ass

I have it on medium and in combat its pretty bad

[gleaming jacinth]

restart the game frequently is the only thing that seemed to help

its still memory leaking

[full zephyr]

I guess falconer needs giga gear

with basic mostly 1LP it feels kinda weak

[subtle jolt]

You need Dex hits for. Most. Stuff to hit more Blades

Since every 20 gives another blade

[versed meadow]

some guy murdered normal aberroth in blue gear

[full zephyr]

maybe im used to BM damage but I killed shit way faster at 1k than I do at 390 atm

in 1 more level I get another blade

[full zephyr]

could have picked 10 dex or 10 vit but it had to be this ofc

still useful at least

max rolled crit multi or phys pen

[full zephyr]

redeemed

[subtle jolt]

Big

[versed meadow]

I DONT HAVE ENOUGH STATS

TO PROC RED RING PASSIVE

AFTER SWAPPING TO FROST STORM CROWS

HELP

[woeful bolt]

vitality idols

[versed meadow]

omg im 1 point off

[versed meadow]

do they legit just have vit on them

or is it described weirdly

[naive crag]

there are weaver idols

and there ar enormal idols with vit

they are 2x1

[full zephyr]

turtle can do +2???

[woeful bolt]

it's just a full drop reset

[naive crag]

it can go from 1 to 4

[full zephyr]

thats 3 now

[versed meadow]

bro i feel like i do negative damage to uber

painge

i even went cold

[full zephyr]

I did infinite damage as lightning

[versed meadow]

Yeah my gear is probs just not good enough

I was rolling in gear when the character was young but now I’m just not getting drops

[full zephyr]

Those imprint changes made them almost useless

Trying to get some 2lps on falc but im not getting almost any drops at all

Not to mention a decent roll and 2lp

[full zephyr]

also, are you sure youre snapshotting your minions correctly

[versed meadow]

I hope so

What could I be doing wrong

[versed meadow]

Wtf is going on

@woeful bolt

[full zephyr]

I know regular boss is a separate area so just in case I summoned already inside the fight itself

even though uber is a monolith echo

[versed meadow]

Ye I snapshot in the boss arena

I think my gear is just not amazing

The weavers will belt I don’t have yet with minion affixes for example

[full zephyr]

I have with 120% minion damage but I used a regular belt with t7 minion hp regen and t6 minion damage

crows dying was the biggest issue for me

having to micro manage those assholes all the time

do you also have a full set of minion cold damage/pen idols?

[versed meadow]

Ye

Maybe I go double apogee

[full zephyr]

there has to be some respec with frost as well but im not sure which points exactly

you did swap crow skill to cold scaling, right

[versed meadow]

ye

[versed meadow]

ye i did this as well

idk just feels like the same damage as lightning

im p sure your gear is insane tho

i havent played as much cause im away obvs

[full zephyr]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/testsubjectx47/character/TestSubjectBM I dont think its that insane, its mostly 1lp

my summon gear is cracked imo

[versed meadow]

can i link an offline char?

i dont think i can right

[full zephyr]

no clue

[versed meadow]

ye idk

i havent been able to grind through the rng

[full zephyr]

I think all of my snapshot gear is 2LP very huge

[versed meadow]

trynna drop another 2lp chest for example

or a 1lp red ring

ive only seen a single amulet

[full zephyr]

I finally got my 4th 1lp red ring

so my falconer is over 180 dex

[versed meadow]

nice

[full zephyr]

idk id stil lsay BM was stronger

and did more damage

I shit on 1k corruption harder than my falconer does at 620

and I think falconer has the same level of gear maybe even better

[versed meadow]

Yeah but falconer isn’t really a map clearer is it

More of a bosser?

[full zephyr]

it should be super op in monos too

maxroll says s tier too

and tisu linked 3k corruption clear earlier

[versed meadow]

Fair

[woeful bolt]

pretty sure I've seen their messages before and they were always wack lmao

[distant folio]

It's not a super blaster or anything but it still clears pretty quick for how obscene its single target is

[full zephyr]

I dont think i can get over 200 dex with this setup

Looking to get 2lp gloves and boots atm

Might be too much farming though considering ive got fuck all so far

[full zephyr]

Developer note: The updates to imprinted item nodes released in patch 1.2.3 unintentionally caused items to appear both less frequently and with less similarity than intended.

yeah brother, imprints felt like dogshit since the patch

falconer bug not fixed though

[distant folio]

Which one?

[full zephyr]

stacks of shroud on shadow falcon attack

or whatever the buff is called

you only get it in smoke bomb

this

[versed meadow]

I wonder if it was actually a bug

Or if they fixed it cause of people complaining

Regarding imprints

[subtle jolt]

Theres also uh

you need to have one of the abilities in your first slot

or something doesnt work

[full zephyr]

thats a different buff

thats silver shroud

[subtle jolt]

'theres also'

Im just saying as they may not know

its the bird movement ability, i forgot its name

[full zephyr]

yeah its aerial assault

you spec it to not make it move you

[subtle jolt]

yeah i know that part

just saying it has to be in your first slot

stupid bug

[full zephyr]

ye, I read about it beforehand so I knew thankfully

imprints feel noticably better now

[subtle jolt]

Did they buff them

ive been setting up modded bl3

[full zephyr]

I posted the dev note earlier

was a small patch today

[full zephyr]

couldnt get a better divine

still +1 dex over my old gloves and +t7 throwing

[subtle jolt]

Big

[distant folio]

Sheesh. Mine have T7 dex and T5 crit avoid which isn't completely useless

[subtle jolt]

Real question is did that put you up another 20 Dex index

For another blade

[versed meadow]

How do you diving again

[subtle jolt]

Isn't it rune of refinement or smtn like that

[naive crag]

no it is an echo

[subtle jolt]

Oh right for unqiues

I was thinking about exalts

[distant folio]

Gauntlet of Strife IIRC? You sac a unique/legendary with equal or greater LP (leggo affixes count too which is why it's a good idea to save bricked egg outcomes especially if they hit multiple affixes) to reroll a unique/leggo of the exact same kind.

[full zephyr]

I already rerolled base and it took 5 rerolls to get those

[full zephyr]

ate up all of my 2 stat legendaries and a couple shit 2lps too

[versed meadow]

@full zephyr maybe my snapshot gear is leaning too much into minion defs?

what did you focus on

or prio i should say

[full zephyr]

I have 2 lp on everything snapshot

So both

So minion dam + life/regen/dodge

[versed meadow]

yeah thatll be a huge diff lmao

[full zephyr]

Its more important to focus on, its better than my regular gear

[versed meadow]

I legit just haven’t been lucky I think

Can’t even get red rings to drop anymore

And when I imprinted apogee it dropped like crazy

Imprinted red ring or my 2lp chest and nada

I have a 2lp apogee in inventory rn that I need something to slam on

Bricked like 8 exalted swords

[full zephyr]

this is my snapshot swap gear

I used that belt for uber for the regen

my idols are pretty good too, all have pen/damage

except one

[versed meadow]

Bro how did you get a 2lp Julra’s

I’ve tried so hard to farm one

Did you nemesis or just farm the boss

[full zephyr]

I have about a 1000 rings

I turtled some and I dropped some

[versed meadow]

Fair

I’d be so much stronger if I could sit and grind for 12 hours a day like I want to

But I must touch grass

Or I will die

[full zephyr]

this is my BM

my bird guy is actually closing in

but I dont have much strength left

I want to make a better quiver and maybe get 2lp boots

[subtle jolt]

Mans let LE eat his soul

[full zephyr]

I just dropped an insane amount on a new pc that ill probably get towards the end of next week

then ill play some good stuff

[subtle jolt]

Ive been letting BL3 eat my soul

with mods

[full zephyr]

im getting the new doom for free with the gpu

[subtle jolt]

beeg

[full zephyr]

im thinking whether I want to kill ooba on falconer as well

I feel like my damage is a bit low

[subtle jolt]

it will be a

1 minute fight

well

you swap build around and go trap

[full zephyr]

I cba doing shit

im running bow with phys damage

[subtle jolt]

well u also have uber relic

so it makes your life easier

[full zephyr]

big nice

my gear is pretty great except for this

4lp helm, 3lp bow, 2x16 dex red ring, 2 lp belt, 2xt7 gloves, uber relic

1lp boots

this is pretty well rolled too

all of my 2lps have shit rolls

[versed meadow]

My character is SCF instead of SAF

Idk how to make an SAF character

[full zephyr]

you click the other checkbox when you make it

[full zephyr]

I think thats a decent one

[full zephyr]

he deadge

most common cause of death purple flames on the ground after his slam that I couldnt see

boss dead on 3 chars I think thats me done

I almost got him 1st try then I inted for 20 minutes

[queen ember]

[full zephyr]

I definitely dont place beams/void zones well

but I played very strong builds with gear

[versed meadow]

I’m living vicariously through you

That was my goal as well lmao

[full zephyr]

you still can if youre not bored of farming

[versed meadow]

its just hard on laptop ngl

my fps is fine but im paying on mac with crossover so the memory leak is rly bad

its just not a comfortable setup to grind on for long periods

when i get back home im going full demon mode tho

[full zephyr]

yeah I wouldnt play on a laptop either

this season felt good

I think I had 130 before

not sure

[versed meadow]

Bro I’m hyped for next season

These guys are cooking

[primal plank]

that's crazy damn

I went from 220 to 320 ish iirc

[versed meadow]

Still sad that a bunch of my friends didn’t see uber as a goal they wanted to achieve

[primal plank]

yeah my friend did the same

tbf he played the entire time not knowing about glyphs of envy

[full zephyr]

might have been 170 before, im not sure. It was below 200 but I dont remember if it was 130, 150 or 170

[versed meadow]

I was at like 130

Now I’m at 310

[queen ember]

Yeah I went up almost 100 hours too

Great season tbh

[queen ember]

Tbh for them it was probably like me, it was mostly not seeing it as worth the grind

[primal plank]

tbf I grinded for 20+ hours for better gear when I could just git good and I'd probably have killed it within 10 hours me thinks

[versed meadow]

Fair

[queen ember]

My gear is dogshit and I can’t play enough to really juice the build, wcyd

[primal plank]

growing up sucks

[queen ember]

I had lots of fun tho

So I ain’t mad

[full zephyr]

I think my biggest issue has been performance

the memory leak and general stuttering

[versed meadow]

On my desktop at home I’d only notice the memory leak after like 8+ hours of gaming

I guess it depends on how much memory you have

[naive crag]

tea i never noticed any leak

[full zephyr]

it starts freezing when you open chests/get loot

[versed meadow]

@full zephyr i got an apogee from nemesis with spell damage on it

you think thats useful?

high t6 roll

if im dual wielding i think its pretty decent no?

[full zephyr]

regular spell damage? not sure if that does anything

[versed meadow]

@naive crag what was the woven echoes farm again? lostwood folly and smth right?

[versed meadow]

fuck tempest buff is shared spell damage

[naive crag]

there is a new one

i dont remember who did the video but think it was frozensentinel

you do lostwood and reweaving

[full zephyr]

I think flat spell damage is better value on both weapons

[naive crag]

to get bonkers amber

[full zephyr]

as 1 lp

[versed meadow]

gonna farm some runes i think

[versed meadow]

i got shared spell pen

which is also decent

[versed meadow]

what was the previous one

it was lostwood smth no?

[naive crag]

the other one was with lost temples

but reweaving gives like 10x more amber

[versed meadow]

wasnt it bountiful wilds?

[naive crag]

no

[versed meadow]

ok

ty

[naive crag]

you just do folly+ reweaving until you have whatever amber you want then buy the others

think i got like 300k quite easily

in less than 1h

[versed meadow]

idc about the amber

i care more about farming runes

with prophecies

they drop more often in woven echoes

[versed meadow]

what about increased lightning damage

i guess it has to specifically be minion lightning right

[full zephyr]

not sure, I think so

[versed meadow]

im getting so close to good snapshot slams

but im missing by the slimmest margins

and its driving me insane

everythings so close to slotting into place

[hollow sparrow]

“⁠New Lich Skill [26:43]: The new Lich skill's base functionality is implemented, and the skill tree is in progress. A detailed overview will be provided when it's more complete.”

@minor bay

[minor bay]

[naive crag]

oh nice to see they have maybe plans of not 1 patch per year

praydge

[gleaming jacinth]

surely new lich will ownnnn

[full zephyr]

next season I want to play acolyte/mage for sure

[subtle jolt]

I will attempt marksman again

hopefully wont take me forever to kill uber again

surely it gets buffed

[naive crag]

New season in august bois

[subtle jolt]

Too close to Bl4 for my liking

[naive crag]

too close to wow and also poe2 new league

they cant catch a break my bois

[full zephyr]

poe 2/10

[subtle jolt]

True

It will take a lot to get me to reinstall poe2

[woeful bolt]

dragon league?> pog

or dino idk

[naive crag]

likely we will finally go to the ancient era

[subtle jolt]

Finally.

We can join the mods of ravenholdt's people.

https://tenor.com/view/t-rex-dinosaur-jumping-rope-dino-dan-dino-dana-gif-3763511161807716814

[primal plank]

did somebody say dino?

[woeful bolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=283TZzV8D0o

[subtle jolt]

Spooky

krafton

if you ruin LE

you're next

[subtle jolt]

I just wanna say it's been an honor.

Was a good game

[naive crag]

big Dino situation

[primal plank]

looks cool

[full zephyr]

stupid beasts

you dont have nets, traveller?

[naive crag]

im so glad i have vacation so i can no life both WoW and LE

[primal plank]

we're gonna be able to cook some god forsaken items with primordial exalted and the 2 "new" runes from weavers

[naive crag]

bro if i can make a chest with t8 lethal mirage

BIG

+4 extra hits

[hollow sparrow]

looks like metamorph but better, hopefully no one-shots(of course we'll have them)

[naive crag]

inb4 there is a yellow harvest boss kinda

that disables movement

[subtle jolt]

Oh lord.

[full zephyr]

im playing acolyte/mage for sure

hope there are some decent builds for them this league

[hollow sparrow]

I bet stygian lich ain't going anywhere + there might be some new op variations, lich has quite good tankiness while you are in the form

[naive crag]

yooo thas me !

[subtle jolt]

Gg

[hollow sparrow]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/lich-necromancer-updates-coming-to-last-epoch-august-21st/78615

[subtle jolt]

They haven't given rogue any love yet for the other subclasses right

[hollow sparrow]

Falconer released in 1.0 I believe, Marksman skill and passives update last league

[subtle jolt]

Did marksman get a skill and passive update

Cuz if so.. Terrible job

Rogue just needs a lot of work.

[barren pollen]

Heartseeker

which a lot of people played and liked

[night sequoia]

Terrible no one can olay rouge

[naive crag]

rogue is the class you play and it is kinda cool

until you get hit

but even then people find ways

[subtle jolt]

What do u think I played

Hs was still kinda badge

From my experience doing Uber

[subtle jolt]

They just play falconer

[hollow sparrow]

@barren pollen are we mana stacking on lich?

[naive crag]

falconer is not tanky

but you can get lots of dodge etc

[hollow sparrow]

falconer can be made tanky all right with glancing capped and block

not paladin level but still decent

[naive crag]

also people get rabid with corruption

like is there any reason to go for 10000

[primal plank]

no more snapshotting? poggies

maybe I try a minion build then if they did the balancing right

[full zephyr]

stormcrows beastmaster was pretty fun to play

snapshotting was annoying as hell though

[hollow sparrow]

that tp into beast rift animation will get old after 5 rifts, I hope they are prepared to speed it

[full zephyr]

is it lich time?

[naive crag]

if it gets tuned like sentinel

[hollow sparrow]

mana stacking flay coc casting chaos bolts seems pog

[hollow sparrow]

@naive crag am I playing meta or having last minute change and go for flay lich?

[subtle jolt]

no meta

never meta

[naive crag]

well depends you can try lich go sentinel they are still op

or go for some homebrew

[hollow sparrow]

the most op seems to be bear

vk is still there of course for easy life

[subtle jolt]

what rogue build (not falconer) is looking nice rn

Might try out hail of arrows

but wanted to see waht teh thoughts were

[full zephyr]

90 minutes

[subtle jolt]

nu uh

90 minutes to server issues simulator

[full zephyr]

Ill start warlock and see how lich pans out

[primal plank]

that's the cuck chair answer

[full zephyr]

Its ssf, play whatever

Im going to pretend merchant guild doesnt exist

Because it doesnt

[subtle jolt]

Nah I hate going full meta.

It's so boring.

Hurr durr falconer one shot for the 3rd season in a row.

[primal plank]

yeah you like watching other people have fun, that's exactly what I said

[subtle jolt]

I don't find falconer fun

So nu uj

[naive crag]

wait is it so soon?

[primal plank]

1h ye

[naive crag]

though it released like 8 or 10 pm

oh nice can play a bit before raid then

[primal plank]

nono it's at 8 dw

(one more spot for me )

[naive crag]

we will get the sweet LE 61

[barren pollen]

@versed meadow

[naive crag]

so can we go into que soon?

[versed meadow]

hello

[versed meadow]

suyp

[hollow sparrow]

you need patch first

[naive crag]

kk so wait until i see a dl

so i kinda forgot how to rush level
was it lvl 28 into monoliths?
then get passives and skips from dungeon things

[hollow sparrow]

no idea, I don't rush anything, just do campaign for +stats

[naive crag]

yea i do too

[full zephyr]

no queue

dead game

[naive crag]

nice

it kinda cratered my dl for some reason

[versed meadow]

ye im struggling to finish downloading lmao

[full zephyr]

ye it was really slow to start but it was finished when I got out of the shower

[naive crag]

everyone began the dl i guess

[full zephyr]

my settings reset though

[primal plank]

I completle installed it again caus eI couldn't see the update xdd

[naive crag]

you just need to close and open steam

[primal plank]

my thing worked too

this game isn't very large

[naive crag]

ahaha yea

im in almost

[subtle jolt]

gg

[naive crag]

gg

[hollow sparrow]

I self baited myself into lich

good job

[primal plank]

I am in council chambers jail it seems

[hollow sparrow]

minions are defo really good for the league mechanic

as expected

[hollow sparrow]

okay, I am just playing RF

[barren pollen]

Servers working fine? @hollow sparrow

I kinda wanna play, but I'm not super interested in any of the classes xdd

maybe I'll do a Rogue again, dam and speed is always fun

[primal plank]

not had an issue so far

[hollow sparrow]

yeah, perfect

[hollow sparrow]

I wanna try flay, for now playing some poison stuff on the fly, actually crushing

[full zephyr]

warlock has been nice so far

rift beasts fucking slap though

[naive crag]

i almost died to a nemesis before

[full zephyr]

ssf is so comfy

just play for a bit and log out

[full zephyr]

@hollow sparrow are you playing lich?

[hollow sparrow]

trying to, apparently flay isn't that great

[full zephyr]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/harvest-lich-guide im looking at this, im still warlock atm

level 65 so its early

[hollow sparrow]

I don't follow any guides yet, just doing poison lich levelling

[full zephyr]

the playstyle looks pretty nice, ill start gathering basic gear

[hollow sparrow]

yeah, I saw volca's video this morning, looked pog

I wanted to try flay chaos bolt but need gear first to experiment with that

[full zephyr]

his gear already looked insane

[hollow sparrow]

he tested and showcased on std

boots seems to be kinda hard to get

[full zephyr]

ah, I thought that was league

[hollow sparrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/WxJlWk3tTo

[naive crag]

yea i've been eyeing it hope it goes well

[versed meadow]

I swapped to this recently

I got very lucky with gear drops

Have almost all the uniques

It’s a lot of fun

It’s like flicker strike from Poe but you still feel in control

[full zephyr]

nice, I dont have much yet, im missing both the boots and the offhand

[full zephyr]

struggling a bit now, into empowered monos but gear is basically campaign still

[full zephyr]

got boots from a random nemesis

its even 3 lp lmao

[hollow sparrow]

I am spending all my prophecies on boots, no luck so far

[full zephyr]

I need traitors tongue and shade ring

I can swap after that I think

[hollow sparrow]

I am still in normal monos, slow progression

[full zephyr]

yeah I had to go back down from empowered because it wasnt great

not enough defense

just ascendanced into traitors tongue, trying to get the relic in regular reign of dragons

imprints snowballing now

kinda lame you have to do all quest echoes in regular monos

[hollow sparrow]

what is that cold dog, I have capped cold res and it just shreds

with 0.5 seconds attack time

[hollow sparrow]

pog

now we need the dagger

I kinda wanna swap already to play fast build

[full zephyr]

I got it with first ascendancy

the dagger

I used 25 or so on boots but didnt get them

I think I can respec now

the question is do I have enough gold

[full zephyr]

yo, this build is fun

[hollow sparrow]

waiting for dagger, and need 20k bones to buy primordial one

[full zephyr]

maybe I can do empowereds but this looks a bit low

looks like I can but this probably isnt an uber killing build

[hollow sparrow]

I am doing great even without traitor's

dunno why you think it's not uber viable while just entering empowered

[full zephyr]

im just guessing, the flicker strike thing too

I mean people can kill uber with it im guessing its just not going to be that easy

[hollow sparrow]

I barely even press harvest

suspect this build will evolve into mana stacker later on, it just takes gear

[subtle jolt]

crazy early

literally the 2 exalted affixes i want too

[hollow sparrow]

yay, prophecy delivered

[full zephyr]

I have almost all of the items, im wearing some naked items with LP because I have no exalteds to use

I got stuck and cant leave

[hollow sparrow]

I really don't like gloves they are suggesting

[naive crag]

which gloves?

[hollow sparrow]

falconer ones

[full zephyr]

its just for attack speed

I guess a better alternative might be found later

[naive crag]

they also give flat dmg

that is not present on gloves

so many classes use them,

LE is weird like that when you have lots of % more and %inc even that little flat is quite good

[versed meadow]

im farking up the the primal dagger

farming*

[naive crag]

wanna do a poison build?=

[hollow sparrow]

yes but it's fire, not even getting converted

I just use exalted with aspeed and health

[naive crag]

well if the attack has decent base value any element kinda works

idk how lich scales

but dont they also use the relic that gives more fire and cold?

[full zephyr]

this is in the planner

do bases have increased cnance for base stats?

ive seen 5+ helms with t6 int but 0 with dex so far

[hollow sparrow]

swap stats in echo

[naive crag]

yea some specs cant proc some stats in helmets

or chest

[full zephyr]

I dont have those echoes yet

[hollow sparrow]

I drop items I can't even wear yet

[hollow sparrow]

save items up until you get it

[full zephyr]

ye

working on empowered blessings now

ok i literally get 1 tapped by every single thing

in this harbinger woven echo

[hollow sparrow]

it's overtuned af

guess I am doing exalted daggers prophecies now, need t7 for tongue slam

[full zephyr]

this thing is absurd

I also picked the worst possible timeline I guess

like I get meleed while ive already dashed behind him

[hollow sparrow]

@versed meadow this one?

[full zephyr]

nice, 1lp

gg

[versed meadow]

ye just bought one actually haha

farming bones is so ass

hvae to legit end lineage every tim e

cause its more bones

look at this bad boy

got it with rune of ascendancy

lmao

[full zephyr]

so far im rating the league mechanic as ?/10

inconsequential and almost non existant

[versed meadow]

i think it needs more time to be figured out

the items look crazy powerful for example

[hollow sparrow]

mechanic itself is quite low on content, yeah.
seems like something like metamorph but there is no big endgame update alongside it

still a cool update, and for EHG it's already a big stepup

[versed meadow]

apparently there's some interesting weaver nodes for it

in the tree

so gonna fuck around with it when i go for farming those points

[hollow sparrow]

what do I even put now in prophecies

[versed meadow]

im just farming exalted stuff rn

for imprinting

[naive crag]

seems later you can get extra evolutions and shit

but idk when

[full zephyr]

from 0 boots to this

5x 2lp too

[versed meadow]

wtf

where'd you get all them booties bro

[hollow sparrow]

weaver tree is op

once you unlock imprints and get one copy it's joever

[full zephyr]

wt

f

bugged julra

shes invisible

it was lvl 3 so I blind dpsed her down at least

I need to do t4 to slam my relic

but my gear is too shit to kill it quickly and I get 1 tapped by her staff attacks

[queen ember]

what am I playing

boys

@barren pollen

@hollow sparrow

[hollow sparrow]

whatever you feel like playing

if you aren't aiming for uberroth anything is viable

[queen ember]

still haven't killed uberroth

[hollow sparrow]

me neither, I am just playing I thought could be fun, and it is

[queen ember]

I barely killed regular aberroth

with the most OP build in the game

[hollow sparrow]

I feel like ehg devs are afraid to allow their players have fun, well more fun than right now. league mechanic not every echo, and even beasts have this dichotomy of just singular beast on the map which is so meh feeling, and entire side zone which is cool because you evolve a beast and kill bunch of monsters

[full zephyr]

this lich build is fun but definitely giga softcore

I dont think I can kill uber with this

[hollow sparrow]

I feel immortal, and lich has been tanky historically

if you compare it to omega broken paladin that could stand in everything then whole game is giga softcore

[full zephyr]

its way too early ofc

I killed it on 3 builds but they were all super strong

I get 1 shot by everything in t4 stuff but thats way too early for me I think

[hollow sparrow]

so you are just talking out of your ass, got it

[full zephyr]

what

im saying this build feels a lot squishier than everything ive played and killed the boss on

[hollow sparrow]

that is not what you were saying. saying "build isn't uber viable" isn't the same message as "it is squishier than what I've played before"

[full zephyr]

I said I probably cant kill uber on it because it feels a lot squishier but its probably early to tell

to clarify

[hollow sparrow]

getting lizards shrine is fun

[queen ember]

do you have a leveling build for lich? I've never played it so I try now

:3

[hollow sparrow]

not really. I played poison that I came up with myself, it was nice clear but quite slow

[primal plank]

unless your build has a miserable bear chasing after them

[queen ember]

acolyte is such a pleasant leveling experience

[naive crag]

rogue is nice too you kinda cruise when you can proc shadow daggers until your chosen ability or spec

rupture having it so early is so op kinda

and umbral too

[hollow sparrow]

until it isn't)

[full zephyr]

been a while since ive had this pleasant LP slamming experience

miss all 66%s

[hollow sparrow]

I was seriously considering bear, but I value mapping speed over omega damage

seems like minion AI change didn't help that much

this could be flay only build if it wasn't so mana hungry

[full zephyr]

yeah I see it evolving there

it does almost the same as harvest

[primal plank]

yeah I was playing it for a while and I just swapped to sentinel ngl

felt like I was missing everything

[full zephyr]

sentinel was mega op last league

im considering doing warpath on a 2nd character

[primal plank]

yeah but I didn't play warpath last league so I'm down for it

[full zephyr]

maybe I can kill t4 julra soon

[hollow sparrow]

I would also consider orb time rot, it's so comfy

you just run and everything dies

[full zephyr]

this lich build is feeling good though

[hollow sparrow]

it is likely not fit for uberroth but you can make something else for it

[full zephyr]

I have to get good at some of the bosses

[hollow sparrow]

I have seen 0 relics pass my filter, do they just not drop or how does that happen

[full zephyr]

ive barely seen any

1 tapped by harbinger auto attack at 140 corruption

[hollow sparrow]

I am not sure why one weapon has to have flat cold and another doesn't

[full zephyr]

no clue, perhaps one is enough and then attack speed has more value

[naive crag]

yea likely dr on that stat so others become better

[hollow sparrow]

time to hunt for 2lp now

[full zephyr]

I did dex on there because I dont find move speed that impactful

[hollow sparrow]

excuse me

[naive crag]

wao

[hollow sparrow]

for julra slam items have to be of the same item class? daggers accept only daggers, no 1h sword or axes?

[naive crag]

correct

[hollow sparrow]

is it moving abilities being slow or just damaging enemies too fast speeds up their spells or something? I see circle, press evade, and still get hit

or maybe I am just slow, idk

on void bird when harby does big singular circle I see it, react, but it's still too late

[naive crag]

evade does not have i frames i think

or very few

i have gotten stunned mid evade and rinsed

[hollow sparrow]

not talking about iframes

[naive crag]

ah the weird desyncs? yea they happen sometimes remember the weird beam last season? where you got hit before the animation even began

[hollow sparrow]

or is it just harbies

I don't die on maps at all, but harby seems to be even fastened

I was doing damage to it without form, slowly, and their attacks were way better paced than when I just blasted them

boss itself is fine, harby on it just NFS mode

guess I am just bad

[naive crag]

the 10 harbys echo is omegadesynced when they spawn too

watch oaut on that one

[hollow sparrow]

[versed meadow]

i cant fuckin kill lvl 4 temporal sanctum

ffs

[naive crag]

it takes a bit of gear

[versed meadow]

ye but also my build is half hp half ward

and im getting oneshot

[naive crag]

well you dont really get hit on julra

except the dot

[versed meadow]

nah the lightning strike

insta oneshot

also im feeling the lack of damage lmao

im stuck farmin for now

[hollow sparrow]

Lich still suffers from the same problems I remember it - form reliance which sometimes suck, melee life, low life so you get stunned a lot and for long, and LE loves stuns

[hollow sparrow]

Do you actually get that ward half, for me it’s mostly empty

[versed meadow]

i have no idea what replenishes it

but sometimes it just stacks itself up

[hollow sparrow]

Harvest

I just play almost only flay while mapping so ward is nowhere to be seen, keystone regen per missing hp isn’t quite enough

[versed meadow]

eyoo

[naive crag]

think you want ukheiros or the champion mod on relic

[hollow sparrow]

Ukherios is just pile of hp and nothing else

Really weird

[naive crag]

dosnt it give ward on necro spell

yea necro and elemental

[versed meadow]

im trying to get throne of ambition idol

but it wont drop

i already have ukheiros

with 1lp

i just cant beat t4 to imprint it haha

[hollow sparrow]

Spells

The only spell is transplant

[naive crag]

rofl

scam heart

[hollow sparrow]

Really unsure about this choice

Sure with lp it isn’t 1 stat item but still weird

[versed meadow]

which item

[versed meadow]

wow crazy

[naive crag]

are you doing the 10 harbinger echo?

just dont

they are on drugs

[versed meadow]

no

its the one where it has the boss in it

from that echo

but i finally looted

[naive crag]

nooooo

not the seal

[naive crag]

guess the rolls people

[versed meadow]

i crafted the perfect ring to slam onto my 2lp

then this drops immediately after

gg

@naive crag how do you best farm primal beast parts

i need more daggers

[full zephyr]

first time lich for me too

"Overall the Harvest Flay Lich is a horrific powerhouse that performs well in endgame. It has high movement speed, fun playstyle and great survivability thanks to its defensive layers."

great survivability is the greatest cap of all time

[full zephyr]

[hollow sparrow]

Relic

[full zephyr]

holy, 1st echo after I slot in 2LP into the imprint

I get 2 of these

[hollow sparrow]

wait, they removed those lenses that give double the rewards for double the cost?

found it, I thought they are gone

[full zephyr]

guess its time to farm exalted daggers

this is a big item

[hollow sparrow]

first double exalt I've seen

[full zephyr]

what even is this shit, no visual and im moving

I just get giga one shot by her doing seemingly nothing

I cant with this game, im moving while dropping and it insta ticks me anyway

[hollow sparrow]

need divining echo

there is a place to 3 to 1 echoes, right?

yeah, it's another echo)

[full zephyr]

you can also buy echoes but that might be one of the high level ones

[hollow sparrow]

you can only buy them after discovering I am pretty sure

[full zephyr]

not sure about that, you get 3 new ones each rep rank

im sad, I have the relic with 1LP but I cant slam

[hollow sparrow]

yeah bosses queueing is broken in LE
Hieroth just decided that he will be doing his abilities while invulnerable and during his minions summoning)

[full zephyr]

the playstyle and general feel is great

until you encounter something that lives more than 5s

not sure if the belt/chest change the experience that much but getting 1 tapped by autos at 100 corruption is weird

[hollow sparrow]

just play sentinel again

vk is still strong

[full zephyr]

ill get this character fully going first, then I might do warpath VK

[hollow sparrow]

big acolyte rework turned out to be just beastmaster rework, but it's so slow people swap off

[full zephyr]

this is what LE tools says

this is my falconer from last league, granted its giga gear but its supposed to be squishier

[full zephyr]

I think im dropping throne of ambition, its useless atm

[versed meadow]

There’s a new flay build

It’s way stronger

Mana stacker flay

[full zephyr]

I cant even kill julra

I die to dropping black puddle

[versed meadow]

You should be able to skip the puddle mechanic

You hop out 1 second before boom

Then swap back

And you don’t get puddle

It’s when she teleports you get the puddle not you

But yeah mana stacker is tankier and does more damage

Has a 40s uber apparently

[full zephyr]

my damage is lowish atm'

[hollow sparrow]

drop it on the side, play the mechanic

[full zephyr]

i drop it but it insta ticks me while running, idk

[hollow sparrow]

I know, getting gear for it, have 1lp axe

[versed meadow]

I finally made my build tanky as well

And now I have to farm a new build

Hahah

[hollow sparrow]

that's just a guess from the person who made it

[versed meadow]

No

There’s a video

[full zephyr]

can you link, or do you have the title?

[hollow sparrow]

he hasn't killed uber

[full zephyr]

for the build itself

[hollow sparrow]

what do you mean no

[versed meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPenSr_x5k&ab_channel=Mishka

[versed meadow]

I mean no

[hollow sparrow]

I saw another video where person claimed 40s but they haven't even killed uber yet

[versed meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQrPxPOID0

Wouldn’t surprise me if these are videos from the test server that they don’t publish until after release

Or they make an offline character and edit their save file to make the video

[hollow sparrow]

I like their idols

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1BAjCLbUlM

I saw this setup

@versed meadow really like how nest variation looks

even tho it blocks uber relic kinda

[versed meadow]

What does nest variation mean I’m fried

Too much last epoch not enough sleep

[full zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qU7NKPJY6o this guy is playing the cold version atm

doing ok

[full zephyr]

oh no, this is level 80 as well

[naive crag]

i also struggled to farm them not much we can do tbh

they drop a lot more shit with higher corru but still

took forever to get my amu

[hollow sparrow]

@versed meadow we are getting there

[full zephyr]

think ill stick to this version for a bit, see whats cooking

[queen ember]

bro

maxroll is sick

[naive crag]

YOUR

i love maxroll because their vers of the bladedancer builds kinda suck so people come to mine with the BBC

[hollow sparrow]

why everything just absolutely loves stunning in LE

what twisted love they have with stuns

like what is supposed to live through that, 10k ward chars? I evaded when I saw the animation even

[barren pollen]

Nothing, you're meant to dodge it

You were just too slow if you got hit by it

Probably just missed the animation, it's like 2s long

[naive crag]

yea slow claw face beam super beam and moonlight circle are 1 taps

supposedly

although i have survived the claw more than once when more geared

[hollow sparrow]

it's neither, ability is on the screenshot

[barren pollen]

Hacha said slow claw, that's what that is

[versed meadow]

Holy that’s fast

[hollow sparrow]

my movement abilities are too slow when I am getting stunned by tentacles, have to stop attacking and go out so I can actually react to it