#roalark - Log Review

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wooden trellisBOT
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tranquil wren
spiral flicker
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opener issues:

send flag before your first rupture
save ashes for sectec +cd
delay your 2nd dances a couple gcds to you get a 2nd secttec + cb

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you send a naked symbols

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dont do that

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symbols dance

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always

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you hold dance charges for symbols

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again the very nexxt symbols dance window you do the same thing

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your next big cd window of blades + flag

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you mess up pretty bad

tranquil wren
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this one is better opener atleast

spiral flicker
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symbols

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then dance

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then cds

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that is inting your dmg hard

tranquil wren
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the issue i know i have

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is i do opener fine, not that one i sent first

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2nd is better

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but opneer i know

spiral flicker
tranquil wren
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but its ur 2nd dust

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pulling SB to flag

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thats when i get confused

spiral flicker
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thats fine

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you flag vanish

tranquil wren
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i fk up me 2nd dust

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always

spiral flicker
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and pull

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to get blades

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that is fine

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but you sent symbols and dance before it

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not synched

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so you are not getting full cds

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with 2 dance windows

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so here

tranquil wren
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so

spiral flicker
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you would

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flag finish

tranquil wren
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so i wanna hold dance for dust SB pull?

spiral flicker
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dance symbols

tranquil wren
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oh

spiral flicker
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sectec cb vanish blades

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not the mess you did

tranquil wren
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cb?

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sb

spiral flicker
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if you dysnc cds so consistantly like you have here

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its will tank your dmg

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cb + cold blood

tranquil wren
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oh

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but what i do

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at that 2nd vanish

spiral flicker
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job 1 for you to do

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is learn the cadence of dance and symbols

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learn to press them ONLY together

tranquil wren
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is i just litteraly wait until i have 30 sec on SB, use flag+vanish+sb

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so how does ur 2nd vanish look like

spiral flicker
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sometimes you can get away with pressing symbols jsut before for energy and gaining a gcd

tranquil wren
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as u said, flag, SD>etc?

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okey okey

spiral flicker
spiral flicker
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on your 2nd vanish

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you will want your dance and sec tec back

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for your 2nd dance in that flag +sb window

tranquil wren
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ahh

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what i do also

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idk if u should

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is before my 2nd vanish

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i make sure to use a SD sec tec CB

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tranquil wren
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and symbols

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the flag

tranquil wren
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so vanish resets those CDs

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is that neede or?

spiral flicker
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should be before

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the dance

tranquil wren
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ahhh

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okey

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okey

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and sec tec

tranquil wren
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okey

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so

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flag>

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SD>sec tec CB

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etc

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then pull

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SB

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?

spiral flicker
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well you do it all at the same time you dont intentially hit those buttons

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let me send you a pic of a log

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so you can see

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maybe im not being the msot clear

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picture will be better

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so you are nto confused

tranquil wren
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okey okey

spiral flicker
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see how he vanishes after sectec

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and gets the blades off of cd

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that allows him to get antoher sectec in the same dmg window the next dance

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where as in your log in that window you get 1 dance sec tec

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compare that log with yours

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and it is very apparant what you are doing wrong compared to what he is doing

tranquil wren
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you pull SB with vanish

spiral flicker
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yes

tranquil wren
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so instead of using flag>vanish>SB, i wanna do basically opener without SB, then AFTER i use SD>Sec>i do vanish SB

spiral flicker
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you also need to stop doing this

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that entire fight you do not sync dance with symbols

tranquil wren
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yeah

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i thought about that

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but i heard use symbols on CD

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but thats not the case?

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thougth it was bad holding it

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tranquil wren
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but should i hold Symbols for dance

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or dance for symbols

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tranquil wren
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or just make sure i always pop them togehter

spiral flicker
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it is fine sitting on a dance charge

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jsut never cap them

tranquil wren
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oooooooooooooh

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tranquil wren
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thats why somone recommend i macro them

spiral flicker
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for the time being though it is not really iptimal

tranquil wren
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altho didnt like that but as long as they are together

spiral flicker
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jsut macro dance and symbols together

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then you can have a stand alone key for symbols

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once you get more comfortable

tranquil wren
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so if dance has 1 charge ready and symbols is 6sec CD left

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i wait 6 sec

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b4 i SD

tranquil wren
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altho, he does SS>finish>SS>finish>SS>Sec tec, i thought we should use Sec tec as 2nd finishr always

spiral flicker
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it is not a hard rule

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3rd is fine

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he also sends it as 1st finisher which is a mistake

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but he 99 logged

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so as you can see that 6% less dmg on sec tec not a massive issue

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the imortant thing is

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he got 2 sec tecs

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in his cd window

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he might have been waiting for cb to come off of cd

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so either send sectec as 2nd finisher with not cb - or use it as 3rd with cb

tranquil wren
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if its like 4 sec on CB

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and sec tec readdy

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should i hold

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for 4 sec?

spiral flicker
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so depends

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if you fit it in the cd and dance window yes

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but this is where the good vanish use comes in

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take oepenr for example

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you finish your first dance

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then vanish

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you want to use 2/3 finishers

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before you press dance again

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becasue then cb will come off of cd with enough time to get a 2nd cb sectec in your flag + sb window

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which again he did not do

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so dont worry about it

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main thing is learn cd windows properly
learn how to dance properly

if you do those 2 things dmg will sky rocket, then you can worry aboutt the minor dmg gain stuff

tranquil wren
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if u go to 0:13

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look at that vanish

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the reason i dont wanted to macro

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SB and symbols is cuz symbols is still active

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and i didnt think u wanted to overlapp it

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if is not in pandemic or w/e

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but i should press SD and symbols after my first vansih

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vanish

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even if Symbols is still active

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i do clip together the SD's

spiral flicker
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so the issue is there

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your 2nd dance is too early

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see how cb is no where near being off of cd

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for the 2nd sec tec

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in a perfect world

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1st dance ends - vanish use 2/3 finishers - 2nd dance

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pressing symbols when it is in pandemic range

tranquil wren
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the blue bar above combo points is SD duration, i just look at that and just when it endds

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i press it again

spiral flicker
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also

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use sectec as 2nd finsihers

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you rup - evis - sectec

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2nd finsiher makes the timings line up ebtter

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like i said the 2nd finisher thing is not a hard rule, but it makes lining things up easier down the line

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if you delayed your 2nd dance slightly & used sec tec cb as 2nd finsiher you would have got another in your 2nd dance

tranquil wren
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ooh okey okey, so my first vanish at 0:15 when i press SD after that vanish, i should use Symbols even if my previous symbols is still active?

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in pandemic as u said

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which is?

spiral flicker
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0-3 secs

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up to 3 secs of the old symbols duration will be carried over to the new one

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but that

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more improtant

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than the symbols stuff

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as long as you are not inting your symbols by not pressing it - or pressing it with 7 sec current symbol duration oyu are fine

tranquil wren
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go to 1:10

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this i recored now after ur "fixes"

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1:10 is the 2nd vanish window

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altho i know not to use evic after 2nd flag

spiral flicker
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i am seeing some none max-1 finishers

tranquil wren
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like i did there

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yeah

spiral flicker
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before the cds

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is that you triyng to get dance up

tranquil wren
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yah

spiral flicker
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or are you palying like that normally

tranquil wren
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faster

spiral flicker
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right

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thats fine

tranquil wren
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no just SD faster

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you know

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since i alerady presse dflag

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pressed flag

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im kinda stressing

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to get into SD window

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but i did SD>symbol >rup

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as first finsih

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but at 1:10 CB is like 4 sec on CD

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thats what confuses me aswell, idk if i should have held Flag just 3-4 sec so that first Sec tec could have been with CB

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to get it on CD faster

tranquil wren
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i dont

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its still like 4 sec on its CD, idk if im stressing to much or what

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at 1:10 its 10 sec on its CD left on CB

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btw sorry if im taking up ur time, gotta say i really really really appriciate this man, love ❤️

spiral flicker
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so 1 small issue you flag - build - finish - dont do that flag finish is the paly. you also sned a 4 cp finisher. always max-1. (in dance it can be max -2)

(further optimization - minor gain dont worry about it too much) - since you have finality rupture waiting - you can flag dance rupture.

also - start useing ashes with sec tec - take it out of what ever macro you are using it in

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but ye

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that whole seqeunce is how it is meant to look

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you are now getting 2 dance sec tecs in your 1st set of cds after opener

tranquil wren
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also - start useing ashes with sec tec - take it out of what ever macro you are using it in ashes is on SB

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atm

spiral flicker
spiral flicker
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no

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that is bad

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the reason why ashes is now bis

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is apl got updated to use only with sec tec

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cos you got LOADS of stats but it decays every 2 secs - so you want to use ashes with sectec cb in your cd windows

tranquil wren
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right so can i macro it to sec

tranquil wren