#chocobolord - Log Review

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verbal ferryBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

atomic dome
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okay first thing I see is like

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first pull of the dungeon

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You should be using Roll the Bones > Adrenaline Rush > Slice and Dice before the pull begins

primal sonnet
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You should also only vanish/dance when you have enough cp to finish

atomic dome
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And then open with Blade Flurry > BtE (5+ targets) or Ghostly Strike + Echoing Reprimand > BtE (less than 5t)

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Like that first ambush wasted your whole subterfuge window

primal sonnet
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I found many examples of vanish into er or ambush

atomic dome
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subterfuge windows are super important for Crackshot spamming

meager flower
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er?

primal sonnet
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Echoing Reprimand

atomic dome
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And then when the first subterfuge window is over, you should get to 6+ combo points and Vanish into BtE to trigger subterfuge again

meager flower
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I read on a guide to not align cooldowns

primal sonnet
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You don't have to align them but you do need 6+ cp before sending vanish or dance

meager flower
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So I did everything wrong

primal sonnet
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I think you should start by reading the outlaw faq in this discord

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Then ask questions about the parts you don't understand, maybe digest a little of it at the time

meager flower
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I read the Outlaw guide on wowhead

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Thought I understood the rotation

primal sonnet
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It looks like you correctly use bte instead of dispatch during crackshot windows, so you got that part right

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Vanish/dance usage needs more work

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I think you are sitting on those cds a bit too?

atomic dome
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should end up with like twice as many Vanish casts as Dance

primal sonnet
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Number of uses is pretty low

meager flower
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I used them when they were ready and I had bte off cd

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I sometimes used bte accidentally outside crackshot window

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It's pretty hard to track everything

primal sonnet
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Right that might be it

atomic dome
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Also this build doesn't press Ambush

meager flower
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What

atomic dome
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I think you should play the other build

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the Ambush build

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this build i dont recommend for totally new outlaws

meager flower
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Yeah idk about builds or how I practice

primal sonnet
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Oh, it's kir build, I was completely fooled

meager flower
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I picked the builds I found on raider.io or wowhead 😄

primal sonnet
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Kir build is good, bit a bit harder to play

meager flower
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I played KiR sub in the later patches of shadowlands

atomic dome
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This build is rather unpopular and its not on wowhead

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surprised you found it but anyway

meager flower
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I found a streamer using it he did a lot of dmg and I copied the talents

atomic dome
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it's a good build I play it all the time

meager flower
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It worked great with Demo and Boomie

atomic dome
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but it's a bit difficult

meager flower
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Because it uses the kir ability or something else?

primal sonnet
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Just more stuff to keep track of

atomic dome
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the other build is simpler because it slams ambush and pistol shot basically regardless of combo points, because they proc each other

meager flower
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Oooh

atomic dome
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this build is careful with combo point efficiency

meager flower
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I didn't know that

primal sonnet
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Kir can run out of steam

meager flower
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Guides on wowhead or icy veins aren't very useful tbh

primal sonnet
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Especially if you press ambush

meager flower
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I thought I had to spam ambush in stealth because it was better

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It is for sin

primal sonnet
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You must have been energy starved a lot

meager flower
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On sin yeah on Outlaw a bit

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Not too much

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But it happened some times yeah

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Suggestions to learn/practice?

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Besides reading the faq

primal sonnet
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Switch to the hidden opportunity build, read the faq specifically for that build, hit the dummies for a bit

meager flower
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Yeah I just realized that I followed the priority for the HO build while using the other lol

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I also need to be careful about using BtE outside of stealth

primal sonnet
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Might want to get the last gcd in crackshot window wa to avoid locking yourself out

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!wa

verbal ferryBOT