#7rissy - Log Review
hoary bone
iron valve
Doesnt look like just evisc crits to me
He has way more casts of every ability
Youre for some reason not pressing abilities, idk if thats a rotational issue causing u to get resource starved, if you just miss gcds or what, on phone so cant check more in depth
alpine bough
i do feel like im missing abilities sometimes
like my danse macabre falls off before the last evis in dance
sand spoke
dansemacabre is just the full dance window but it looks like you somethimes press gb a tiny bit before pressing dance
alpine bough
meaning im capped cp when i start my dance?
sand spoke
you want to press dance before a spell so you can fit more easy all gcds in it
alpine bough
yes where can i find that
iron valve
And u pressed snd as your first global in dance
alpine bough
whats snd
iron valve
Slice and dice
I think ud find a lot of useful tips from the FAQ or checking the wowhead guide since just by the first 2 shadow dances it seems u dont quite understand how u want to play the spec
sand spoke
did you rename your char or why is it one time a comparison between 2 rogues and than another log from another?
alpine bough
yeah ive been swapping servers
trialing with guild now
2nd link was from rashok last night
iron valve
U didnt play any of your shadow dances correctly
alpine bough
don could u link me where i can find like my keypresses
cause this one the casts arent far behind
iron valve
sand spoke
sand spoke
there if you like it as a list or timeline if you want it in a different look but its kinda the same
alpine bough
so that pull i symbols before sec tech which is bad
iron valve
Yeah timeline or events is good when u want to figure out your cast sequences, just preference really which one u like better
alpine bough
and double vanish ss
can i filter this by spell
or should i just ctrl f and search
iron valve
Ctrl F and search for events is fine
Tbh u play a lot better in the rashok log than on the kazzarra
alpine bough
still this person gets more eviscerates off which equals more dances
sand spoke
the first gb already critted so you had fw on target there was no need to press the shurikan storm in dance
alpine bough
do yall think i should remove the gloomblade dance macro?
sand spoke
if you want to have always the excact same opener switch that gb with ss
no if your confortable with it i assume you play the change sd keybind into gb macro from the faq
alpine bough
yea
i have a bad habit of using gb instead of waiting for auto attack combo points
when im at like 4-5 points
sand spoke
if flags comes up that shortly its fine to delay dance for the 2 sec also the gb here was before dance so you lost a global and a dm stack aswell and cp
iron valve
still this person gets more eviscerates off which equals more dances
I think he is pressing gloomblade too aggressively, there some moment where he gloomblade gloomblade dances
Or u are rather
He wastes a lot less cps
sand spoke
yea i saw that a few times but the rashok log is 10 times better then his kaz
also flag you want to press before using a finisher you pressed a gb after that not ideal
iron valve
Oh yeah 100%, kazzara log was dreadful, this looks mostly pretty good with some minor adjustments
alpine bough
yeah my b i think that kazz fight is a little older
alpine bough
i have a bad habit of using gb instead of waiting for auto attack combo points
so is this a really big thing?
iron valve
Not really
alpine bough
cause a its a gcd and 2 im wasting cp
iron valve
If youre low on energy u can minmax it but most of the time it doesnt really matter, think tracking shadow techniques and trying to min max it is like the last thing id learn if i was trying to get good at sub
ull get used to it with experience to know when to hold gloomblade cuz shadow technique procs about to happen AND youre low on energy so this hold wont make u cap on energy
iron valve
Yeah getting dance correct is very important, and 2nd most important thing is to get as many dances as possible (energy and cp management)
Those are the only two things u really gotta play with as sub
iron valve
If youre efficent with energy usage and cp usage, ull get a lot dances, and if u do your dances correctly youll do a lot of damage during them
sand spoke
you need to be a bit carefull when you start dance here you would either wait a bit for dance >> gb or gb >>dance >> evis
iron valve
if snd and or rupture is about to fall off but dance is coming up
Refresh before dance, or if u cant manage that then after dance
But if u plan correctly ull never run into that issue
alpine bough
rupter>snd?
iron valve
Snd > rupture
alpine bough
you need to be a bit carefull when you start dance here you would either wait a ...
so here i wasted the cp from 2nd gloomblade
but i get a stack of dm
not worth?
iron valve
Not worth
sand spoke
no
iron valve
Always finish at max cp
alpine bough
so the move there should have been dance>evis>ss>gb>sectec?
iron valve
Yes or sectech if youre max cp after the ss
sand spoke
dont gb there
alpine bough
even if at 3 danse mac?
iron valve
Yes
alpine bough
am i thinking too hard about playing around danse
iron valve
Always finish when the finisher rule is met
sand spoke
he will have premed buff so 99% of the time he has the cp for the sectec
alpine bough
Always finish when the finisher rule is met
which is 6-7 cp?
iron valve
Yes -1 from max
alpine bough
this is my first xpac playing rogue and i started off using hekili but friends told me it was awful so i got rid of it and now just trying to learn the ins and outs so i can compete
sand spoke
dont know how good that is never played with it but if you get sub once it will get alot easier we dont have much variance in our gameplay but you need to get used to it
as don said one of the most important thing to do is to play the dance correct if you do that consistent you then can go to min maxing
alpine bough
how important is it to refresh a finality procs
just whenever i can at max cp outside of dance?
alpine bough
Got it
sand spoke
if you struggle to play otherwise consistent i would skip that one until you get comfortable with sub its not that much gain
alpine bough
roger, i appreciate all the help
also outside of dance, symbols on cd? unless its going to come up for dance?
sand spoke
alpine bough
awesome ty