#DotA
stray yew
molten gorge
yeah when you win
stray yew
i think midlane gets interesting when you're decently high mmr
when you get to immortal draft levels maybe
it gets kinda weird/interesting imo
vivid quartz
worst thing about midlane is being scared of cancer heros
oh huskar 10th pick, now you suffer
stray yew
because you get some proper mismatches then where you have some guy thats 9k mmr vs some 11k mmr
vivid quartz
or sniper or viper
stray yew
and imagine the 9k mmr guy isnt even mid laner
vivid quartz
and cba playing those boring heros
stray yew
he will get proper shitstomped then
molten gorge
dota looks so coinflippy even in immortal
i got bored of watching speed cause it looked like suffering
he could win a game against players who looked lost
vivid quartz
molten gorge
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-baby-speech-bubble-cat-speech-baby-cat-gif-41426714...
what
you said the same thing
nerd
stray yew
my enemy
@jolly crane
@vivid quartz https://www.twitch.tv/teaguvnor
patch today
surely
vivid quartz
patch dropping as soon as this dreamleague game ends
always after first group stage of dreamleague
vivid quartz
where patch
jolly crane
ngl that looked like sniper at first glance
stray yew
"naturesrat"
vivid quartz
HUH
vivid quartz
<@117995824583016453>
what did i miss
stray yew
just the furion version of
stray yew
cant get rid of thge rat
jolly crane
vivid quartz
anyone have drow arcana and want to sell it? 😄
vivid quartz
sucks so much when you miss cosmetics and you cant buy them anymore
stray yew
isnt it bound to your account now?
isnt it?
like its untradable forever and ever
it was from some compendium
or did they make it tradable now?
stray yew
pretty sure these compendium ones are just gone and you cant get them ever
unless they put sth like wr arcana out
in some cache
there are some that they reintroduced but usually whenever they released these compendium ones they were meant to be limited to you know do a little bit of fomo abusing
so people spend big bucks
jolly crane
pretty sure these compendium ones are just gone and you cant get them ever
some are some arent
its weird
i.e. you cant trade WR arcana, but qop one you can i think?
idr
stray yew
wr you can right now or soontm
becuase they released it in some cache
but its not the one from the compendium itself
there is just 2nd one
it has slightlky diff sth
jolly crane
oh ye true
jolly crane
so its the other way around
qop one you cant
but WR one they re-did
even though it was the more expensive one
kinda fucking over the people who bought it
stray yew
maybe ye
i mean its not like they said said they wont ever be reintroduced
but..
well its valve
that should be good enough answer
skin market is very weird and random because sometimes valve will decide oh this bugged item taht exists 5 of them and is 10k$?
we will fix it
jolly crane
i mean its not like they said said they wont ever be reintroduced
psure they actually did
same for certain other items
stray yew
i could ask some of my friends
jolly crane
they got around that with the WR arcana
jolly crane
its like the fucking zul aman bear from tbc
they said that mount would not be available anymore after the raid is not current
so they just did a slight recolor after a while
cuz people wanted the mount but couldnt get it anymore in mop
vivid quartz
i could ask some of my friends
if you could ask if theres way to get razor/drow arcana, im really interested
stray yew
if you could ask if theres way to get razor/drow arcana, im really interested
at this moemnt you cant but supposedly its been hinted that you would be able to soontm
according to this
jolly crane
watching gorp qualifier and he is now hunting down pieliedies mom on the internet to find a number to call her cuz he cant reach him and they have a game
and ofc shes in fucking ikea and now has to hurry to get to plds apartment
@stray yew
jolly crane
was already fucking funny he had to scour for her number, and the fact shes actually in ikea is just
content
this is too good
jolly crane
just play slark, buy gem first item
stray yew
i think with this bug you dont even need to be slark
vivid quartz
its fixed
jolly crane
sick final game from ts vs navi
holding against megas for 15min, their own throne was down to like sub 100 hp
and then they turn and win the game
crazy
imagine if the tiny doesnt wuss out there
vivid quartz
team spirit is like 2 tiers above any other team when it comes to how fun is to watch their games
another one rn
jolly crane
team spirit is like 2 tiers above any other team when it comes to how fun is to ...
nice jinx
jolly crane
dota casting 
"still only a 8k networth difference"
meanwhile pos4 same level as enemy mid
vivid quartz
betboom outdrafting everyone this playoffs
and ppl still not respecting naix, stubborn af
only reason they lost last game cuz they had usless mid bat into aba tinker
vivid quartz
naix is so op and easy to play, this facet crazy good
jolly crane
this pos3 venge did absolutely nothing all game
just not pro-active at all, which was the one thing GG is good at
dyrachyo diff
the man at least always made shit happen. sometimes good shit, sometimes bad shit
watson is just way too defensive of a carry, imo
vivid quartz
watson is playing really well tho
vivid quartz
only issue i could say is not playing naix, has to be some input from your pos1 abou tthi shero
doom so weak in lane and they exploited that
jolly crane
playing doom from behind in a game like this with your puck getting dumpstered the first 25 minutes and having a pos3 venge
not much you can do
vivid quartz
when you get to this skill level of players, draft is like 80% of the game
jolly crane
ye
always has been since like
ti5 or 6
sometimes there was crazy outskills like wings
but for the most part, it came down to drafting, ye
vivid quartz
miracle maybe last time player outskilled other so hard
vivid quartz
he did?
jolly crane
but he was dunking even on the best mids
jolly crane
ti7 to 9 he was solo killing/winning mids he had no business in winning
but ye, just always a bit lackluster lategame performance and not the greatest teams
but he got super close multiple times, just like ame
vivid quartz
ti7 liquid
vivid quartz
ah saying maybe in sentence xd
jolly crane
idk
miracle was very good, but imo most of his dominance came from him being the first mid to be played as a pos1
vivid quartz
possibly i missed that whole era, stopped as he came up
but theres so much hype about him that i just missed on
jolly crane
ye it was like
the OG/Liquid era of miracle dominating mid as a pos1, while notail/matumba played more of a sacrificial carry
was very reminiscent of the old EG days with sumail mid as pos1, while fear was playing sacrificial carry role
if you have such a high skilled player mid, it was the right play and basically always won those teams the games too
vivid quartz
yo hve to turbo own lane
jolly crane
better off letting your pos4 scale after
cuz you just exist to initiate and die
i dont get why he doesnt buy shard tho
vivid quartz
gpk mvp this tourney
jolly crane
i feel venge shard is one of the best ones
2sec stun on 10s CD, why would you not wanna have that hit 2 targets instead of 1
vivid quartz
pure lost so many games when not having bb late game
vivid quartz
yea but at this level he is the one that does it all the time
i understand when you are behind and you have to go for one all in fight
but he does it when being ahead all the time
50min pos 3
jolly crane
tbh this game was basically won by save
he was everywhere in the early game
basically won 2 lanes at once
vivid quartz
yea he does this every game
jolly crane
save is just an insane bat player imo
vivid quartz
thats why gpk is owning cuz save is playing so fell
jolly crane
tbf, its not won yet
vivid quartz
he sets him up for good game all the time
jolly crane
its BB, they can still throw
vivid quartz
yea late game dota anything can happen
jolly crane
ye save is really good at exploiting weak safelanes from the enemy team
and then controlling 2 lanes at once
tbh i dont really like what im seeing in dota atm
so many mega creep games as well
that they just hold for 20+ minutes and then win
still think buybacks are too strong in dota
jolly crane
its just so stupid
that in order to close out a game these days
you gotta play 5v10
vivid quartz
it just becomes infinite cycle of bb cds and waiting for next rosh
jolly crane
ye
exactly
almost every game is just
team a has big lead
team a pushed hg/throne
team b uses 3-5 buybacks, wins base-defense
team b gets rosh
team a doesnt push until aegis gone
buybacks are back
repeat
should make it so buyback timer doesnt run down while you have aegis, or smth like that
vivid quartz
its too hard to push cuz even piss pos 5 can get you killed with 1 ability nowdays
if you are out of bkb
jolly crane
ye
the moment people started buying refresher just to get a second bkb, you knew things were a bit fucked
vivid quartz
but then this is better than having supports be creeps for whole game
vivid quartz
the moment people started buying refresher just to get a second bkb, you knew th...
yea refresher is mandatory late game now xd
jolly crane
ye
vivid quartz
its joever
jolly crane
its just bkb/refresher spamming lategame
was worse with old windwaker
again base hold cuz of like 4 buybacks total
now GG will get rosh again
vivid quartz
pos 1 is so weak nowdays
jolly crane
and sit in base for 5 minutes
vivid quartz
weak in lane, weak in lategame
jolly crane
i mean its just the way the game and most heroes work
is you have one set of big damage
but with bkb+refresher or buybacks
you use that for the first kill
but then dont have shit for the second
that was incredibly well played
watson just panicking
vivid quartz
yea its really hard honestly getting doom off
vivid quartz
nah its trash
you cant stay on top of target
2025 everyone mantas your doom too
animation is so long
jolly crane
you need it this game tho
you play into 2 cores with linkens, one manta as well
you aint dooming anything
vivid quartz
ya
jolly crane
idk what the butterfly is supposed to do this game
vivid quartz
save on bat what a beast
jolly crane
ye
jolly crane
ye i mnean
its the only viable target he has tbh
he cant get a doom off against the mk or naix
cuz their team also just has dogshit linken triggers
vivid quartz
monkey conceptually op hero since release till now
vivid quartz
this guy always creating drama
jolly crane
against GG, im all for it tbh
but nah, hes a little piece of shit
always has been
fwiw i do think GG kicking dyrachyo and blaming him for never winning TI was a big fumble
when his playstyle was often what allowed GG to be as successful as they were to begin with
same with saberlight
jolly crane
he was getting blamed for every loss shopify had
while people were still cocksucking rtz
when it was rtz who fucked up most of their games, never actually carrying a game
and now that saberlight is in a diffeernt team, hes been pretty succesful
vivid quartz
yea but on this team he does not seem too great
jolly crane
oh hes not an insane player by any means
but i dont like a single player getting blamed for shit
so when they then get removed, and the team has even less success
while the kicked player ends up more succesful later down the line
that makes me happy
theres a few people that truly developed into great players
like, sneyking was an absolute trashlord in the early years of dota, and even back in hon
same with insania
but both of them grew a lot and ended up becoming t1 players and captains
same with quinn, as much as i hate him, but he deserves the kudos
jolly crane
@vivid quartz did you see that finish just now from aurora vs paravision?
fucking insane plays to keep the dusa alive
9class saving that game with lotus delivery from courier twice
swapping treads out in the very las milisecond there so the lotus goes into inventory instead of backpack
lmao
(darkseer also gave 1 lotus that 9class gave him with courier ~10sec earlier)
vivid quartz
big players
jolly crane
ye they had no business winning that game defending 3v5
vivid quartz
falclowns
vivid quartz
vivid quartz
Spirit refusing to scrim pari before this event kinda crazy, I guess they knew it would be their hardest matchup
jolly crane
play2win 
vivid quartz
whole team spirit was just built diff this event
that base defense in game 2 vs pari shows how every of 5 players had to press their buttons
went and watched whole thing over and over
bit of a choke from pari allowed for it ofc
jolly crane
ye
honestly, it was also just such a shitty format
psure GG, liquid and especially pvision woudlve all put up a much better fight than falclowns
vivid quartz
think pvision has best coach rn
stray yew
@vivid quartz @jolly crane https://www.twitch.tv/gorgc/clip/InterestingCarelessKleeSuperVinlin-uYLro4B_JZPnz4CF
this is too good
cut down perfectly
jolly crane
Hahahahaha
stray yew
jade bramble
That's like half the player base...
vivid quartz
surprising how many ppl actually still play dota
rotund spoke
i mean i went back to it and i feel like every hero i played has changed 
vivid quartz
no battle pass, win traders smurfs account buyers all over the place
rotund spoke
i mean They give a better battle pass no?
vivid quartz
facets was the biggest pach which was last year may
and that is last peak for player base
this year has been pretty bad, no big patches, events or battle pass
vivid quartz
this event is so trash lmao
thorny fiber
lesson learned
wdym bro, if you think its good then thats all that matters.
humble yew
peak battlepass year was TI8/9
those days are behind us now
steam really doesnt care about dota
rugged cipher
New sponsor deal fell through and org got spot and not players and they just said have fun not playing or?
stray yew
crypto shady org thing i think
jolly crane
humble yew
TI starts in 30 min 
stone geode
ive not watched any tournaments in a long time
maybe even none since last ti
whats the 5/10?
plain pilot
whats the 5/10?
How many points he needs for next tier neutral item
stone geode
TI starts in 30 min <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
The Road to The International 
stone geode
Prize Pool:$2,393,354 USD dead game tbh
stone geode
spirit lost one game, its joever
stone geode
not anymore
stone geode
series is only 1-1
stone geode
anti mage pick 
stone geode
is it china year
jolly crane
i hope so, but theyve had a rough year thus far imo
barely making it top 8 most major tourneys
ame 1 death in 5 games
stone geode
no idea about the year in general, ive seen most of their 2 series and they looked good
jolly crane
and aurora/spirit are not easy teams to play into either, so this was definitely quite solid
stone geode
but its just the road
jolly crane
ye
their issue has always been in closing it out in the finals
sick sf performance
stone geode
spirit are washed up, 16-18th confirmed
jolly crane
helm of dom meta is fucking trash tho
stone geode
lmao
game was looking like ngx win, casters glazing
pos 1 gets killed, sumail gets caught during tp
they dieback and lose throne
jolly crane
that XG vs falcons series was like
grand finals worthy
that linkens/lotus play against doom was sick
stone geode
great series to watch, had it on for most of my workday
stone geode
spirit not doing so well
stone geode
spirit not doing so well
washed up
not seen all of their games but its not been very close
stone geode
these elim series are going to be crazy
jolly crane
wait is game1 spirit falcons not over yet?
i saw them dieback and lose an entire teamfight
and thought games was over
lmao
jolly crane
I dont think anyone diebacked
was like 20minutes ago
can he not juse use a t4 neutral instead of the disabled t5 one?
stray yew
after 10 minutes you get new neutrals
and after that iirc either another 10 minutes or you can just reroll them forever
but you need very many tokens
you need to clear like 10 camps to get reroll
stone geode
undying helm is so stupid lmao
jolly crane
didnt buy enough dominator helmets
stone geode
spirit last won a game 3 series ago
jolly crane
the fight they just showed
stray yew
if it was old helm of undying
jolly crane
where yatoro baited his entire team
jolly crane
i thought game was over there
idk why he didnt have pike tho
feels a lot of fights yatoro couldnt hit anybody for more than 2-3 hits
cuz theyd just force away and he couldnt chase
dunno if that silver edge really did much for him
stone geode
they lost very close series to 2 chinese teams right
jolly crane
ye
well, they shouldve lost 2-0 against XG
but XG kinda threw game1
and all games were very long, yeah, but it didnt really feel like falcons had the upper hand in any of them
stone geode
still on the performance of this tournament i was favoring them pretty heavily in this series
stone geode
spirit team fights just arent spirit
jolly crane
larl is not in form, imo
stone geode
yatoro playing quite recklessly and its not working out
none of them are playing that well
jolly crane
yatoro is just being himself tho. its larl thats off, and their strength has always been the coordination between the 3 cores
collapse/yatoro still look strong and like their old selves imo
but especially this game, the invoker just felt off and never was around
all their good moves was just collapse+yatoro making moves, occasionally the NP would tp in somewhere with an alacrity from the invo prebuffed
stray yew
i assume he just makes a call there
and they believe it
commandable tbh
commendable
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
or whatever that word spells 😄
jolly crane
that fight around 45min where he went in
stray yew
he is not far off
stray yew
game was on knife's edge
jolly crane
then he tps out again
stray yew
but i hope falcons make it far
jolly crane
and larl is like 5sec too late and gets caught after yatoro is already gone again
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
was such insane game too
jolly crane
xg vs falcons was a grand final worthy match
stone geode
I just want spirit to not get 2-0 here again
jolly crane
i do hope that XG takes this one
stray yew
is making grand finals
because meh im not treating swiss system that seriously
gonna be honest
stone geode
xg vs falcons was a grand final worthy match
thats what I was thinking when I was watching that
not seen any swiss tourmanets before
but I like it more than groups I think
jolly crane
swiss + bucholz seeding
is peak
not having dogshit best of 2s is already a blessing
stone geode
bo2s where everything is 1-1
peak gaming
I should be a bigger falcons fan
skiter is like the only ever dota2 pro from slovakia
jolly crane
well
this aint looking too hot for spirit
but they are super vulnerable in the early game, so it makes sense
stone geode
spirit are choking
jolly crane
the draft is just
very very weak early
and falcons has kinda trash highground push
but they might just starve them out of the map with this early lead
stone geode
5 man rp into requiem and wave form
jolly crane
they have nothing to siege, other than pugna blasts, and pugna will just get skewered if he shows himself for that
stone geode
might be too far behind to do anything
jolly crane
dunno
almost the entire networth difference is on the supports
so the cores can keep up
this is just a very typical spirit game, where they keep dying on pos 3-5, while their cores keep farming/progressing at the same pace as the team that has 4x as many kills as them
jolly crane
ye definitely
but ive watched too many games like this where spirit ends up bleeding kills over and over yet still win cuz their cores keep progressing
stone geode
sf is doing nothing this game
stone geode
its megas probably
stone geode
jolly crane
well
60min game inc
megas 
yeah, was a rough game
if they win that fight at top, its an even game
but rp whiff
stone geode
at least I can go bed at a reasonable time
plush pivot
Gaben got fit, good to see
humble yew
GABE
plush pivot
negative nancy
jolly crane
dunno how much itll matter
tundra needs to get a good fight to push hg
but ye this SD is a big problem for them
plush pivot
can they then dedicate tiny + pango to one single purpose - kill SD
plush pivot
BM is trying to just kill SD
jolly crane
the tiny prolly just goes hunting for the jugg ward at some point, cuz its annoying af
once bm gets refresher, teamfights will be hard
xxs is in peak form this tournament
lycan kinda didnt exist this game with the blink+orchid, just never really managed to do anything with it
plush pivot
ru channel has more viewers than eu, typical dotka
rugged cipher
random russian dude walking on his treadmill got more viewers unless viewbot
maybe ruski gorp
humble yew
dunno how much itll matter
yeh he proved me wrong and Im glad for it
hoping for a TI for Ame this year
China #1
jolly crane
tbf jugg not playing aghs was
big questionmark play
XG just played staff on every core and jugg had no game anymore
plush pivot
is clinkz good high ground pusher?
tundra has shaker and sk, they seem to be able to defend it quite well
jolly crane
problem is they have to commit to a fight when they go in
and then the clinkz and slardar just pop bkb and fight you
jolly crane
the triple melee core into qop+clinkz is gonna be rough
and slardar can face tank a lot too with aghs
plush pivot
how are they planning to fit 4 bo3s today
stone geode
I thought it was supposed to start at 10 but I forgot and tuned in at 11 and the first game had just started
jolly crane
ye was preshow etc.
they went until midnight/1am some days already
but ye, with games lasting this long in this meta
so mayn games going 60+ min
doing 4 bo3s is kinda rough if they all go 3 games
rugged cipher
well this is first arena games right? some countries they are only allowed in arena until 22 for example
jolly crane
is the case in germany too, need a special permit to go past certain time, but i reckon they got one
plush pivot
If all bo3 are like this I can see them pushing 4th bo3 tomorrow
stone geode
the xg falcons bo3 was what, 5 hours?
3:17 or even more in game time for all games combined
jolly crane
tundra shouldve won game1 if they itemize differently
but game2 was just full outdraft imo
didnt see any good epi or echo all game
plush pivot
Shaker got pushed into poverty and then bkbs
jolly crane
33 had no impact in either game, and thats usually the person who controls the tempo for them
both bzm and 33 are very good at doing that, and they just couldnt get that going in either game imo
craggy pivot
pudge round 1 pick 
plush pivot
first pick pudge are we in matchmaking or
rofloturik
stray yew
first pick pudge are we in matchmaking or
he thought he was banning
like in pubs
1st pick pudge to ban
humble yew
plush pivot
is there any chance to rerun from that moment in the case of misslick?
it's just first pick
humble yew
from Heroic they def wanted to pick it
stone geode
he has 3 games on it in groups
plush pivot
i mean its not a misclick i assume
I was just wondering what are the rules, is there some point of no return within picks but before that one could claim genuine mistake
ancient harbor
👀
plush pivot
Falcons are like a python, slowly squeezing life out of their opponents
stone geode
lets go skiter
stone geode
the venue looks half empty
stone geode
invokers mid going helm is funny as fuck
plush pivot
that was a cool series
plush pivot
now the series I've been waiting for!
manic ermine
is it rolling or fixed schedule?
plush pivot
just planned schedule I reckon
plush pivot
Chadsen in da house
humble yew
ancient harbor
i cant believe it took me 2 years to realise this thread existed
i was still looking in the other thread and wondering where everybody was 
plush pivot
but how many creeps did he kill?)
rugged cipher
xiaobets order
jolly crane
did i miss some patch or why do the casters think that PV has a better lategame than XG?
doesnt brood fall off hard
plush pivot
This is some 2013 Alliance on crack
jolly crane
ye this domhelm splitpushing is
not fun to watch when it drags out games this hard
but ye Pvision just outplaying XG
XM kinda trolling this game tho
0 impact storm
jolly crane
ye it used to just not be strong lategame
but its been a while since i played
oh ye -0.3 bat is crazy
manic ermine
I pray for the bristleback downfall
plush pivot
is one lane hard push is the answer for splitpush?
jolly crane
XG just needs to play from behind now
stray yew
nah you need ot kill rats
plush pivot
seems like xtreme bought teamfight items but couldn't find said teamfight
stray yew
this invoker needs to die 2-3 times
stray yew
i agree they're getting outplayed entire series
plush pivot
they traded bottom for roshan, but didn't do with that aegis
jolly crane
pushing HG mid when you dont have buybacks to save your 2nd lane was not the play
trading bot for rosh was fine imo
you lose 1 lane to splitpush sooner or later anyway
jolly crane
losing mid cause xm zips in without bkb when they knew invo had hex
was big misplay tho
stray yew
think its storm diff 2 times he jumped aggresively he got ultra punished
once by orchid once by hex
jolly crane
ye
dont think the manta was the play this game
idk
they needed the storm to set up fights for lycan+bristle
manic ermine
This tournament needs the GG roster, they'd be really good at punishing this slow meta and make games more interesting
jolly crane
but ye with how late the games go
its just about teamfight execution
finding the right picks in a teamfight
and then play the teamfight 5v4 or 4v3
9class is such an insane pos4
plush pivot
did you see his tree push out of disruptor circle?
jolly crane
ye
tbf thats a common thing
out of iceshards or kinetic field
but still sick every time it happens
i still dont get why XG keeps being the proactive team tho
instead of just farming
plush pivot
without 2 lanes I think they didn't feel like there is enough space to farm
jolly crane
there was enough space to fight in enemy triangle/jungle
jolly crane
idk why you seek a fight in enemy triangle without vision
plush pivot
desperation
jolly crane
PV just let them come and then always fought with superior vision and knowing they just need to react, and they had the lineup for it
molten mural
3rd worst yeah
jolly crane
top3
theyre insanely good, well deserved imo
but XG also just drafted badly, idk. most of their games they have XXS on a tempo hero that can intiiate
the pos3 undying worked well for them a few times, but that was with a lot of lockdown from their mid+safelane
not with a fucking troll
typical CN gameplay, play one thing in groups really well, then change things up in playoffs and just lose 0-2 twice 
jolly crane
nigma gonna be the CN killer
plush pivot
falcons gonna advance and then we will see rat doto vs rat doto?
stray yew
falcons are theo nly team taht isnt buying mass domi
plush pivot
that's a lot of almost kills)
stone geode
call it
plush pivot
feels like Falcons are throwing rather than BB doing anything fantastic
stray yew
wtf was doing so much damage
jolly crane
falclowns
plush pivot
is it possible to use mana void on huskar?
stray yew
you can for sure
jolly crane
sick am
stray yew
but it will do 0 dam
jolly crane
jolly crane
plush pivot
you can for sure
I was just wondering if game would even allow it
stray yew
i remember legendary eternal envy clip where he ults crip
creep
instead of medusa or rhasta with 0 mana
stray yew
ye he will randomly have items becaues domi
he lives 1 fight and killsteals sth with ult
and he will be top NW
ok this game is very over surely
stone geode
whats up with teams being called BB team and PV or pvision, is it some ban on gambling? I know it used to be a thing at riyadh but not anywhere else
stone geode
pure AM 
plush pivot
can AM overpower marci + bristle deep into late game?
stone geode
I tink its easier for heroic to execute endgame fights
if they(BB) can outlast marci cds they can win
stone geode
timber is getting shredded
humble yew
wtf BB doing
stone geode
choking
stray yew
thats just avg russian team when game is hard
besides spirit/pv maybe
all these aurora/bb teams always biggest chokers ever
stone geode
ye
heroic have been doing well though
props to them
pure/gpk were massive chokers 1-2 years ago
maybe they can pull through
stray yew
idk pure is envy
50/50
either genius or idiot play
but in lategame he usually delievers
stone geode
SK was crap the last 2 teamfights
stray yew
he has best hero into enigma
stone geode
if he can get a clean jump in before bkbs
stray yew
considering they have 0 enigma counters
stray yew
kotl abyssal made sense because that hero has inf cast range
or had at that point idk if its still a thing
from ult
stone geode
did you see phoenix with aether lens
stone geode
heroic had a good run
manic ermine
Save was the mvp for that series
jolly crane
and it still wasn't enough
wouldve been enough if yuma used his bkb instead of getting himself eulsed during it
jolly crane
wait, since when QoP goes for blademail
her facet gives her spell lifesteal
and blademail deals magic damage
so you can commit to fights quite well by just jumping in, scream+blademail, and youll be able to heal quite a bit from just getting hit/the aoe
jolly crane
oh wait nvm, you cant lifesteal from BM anymore it seems
but ye its still just a good item to commit to a fight
problem with qop usually is that if you commit by jumping in
you just get killed
but with blademail thats a risky proposition
stone geode
antimage at TI is big hype
plush pivot
I wonder what troll's total damage is so far, he seems to be just running all the time
stone geode
if you have the game installed, can you see that in game?
humble yew
I wonder what troll's total damage is so far, he seems to be just running all th...
troll is a late game hero, needs 6 slots to be enabled and falcons gameplay is based around that, farm more than your opponents until you crush them
it's way more worth to kill creeps than kill heroes in dota right now
although Idk how they'll deal with AM in lategame
humble yew
troll stats are insane at this TI
stone geode
anti mage is my favourite hero in the game
tread switch blink around the jungle farming while your base is losing 2nd racks at 20 mins and you cant do shit
the quintessential dota 2 experience
plush pivot
although Idk how they'll deal with AM in lategame
by writing "gg"
stray yew
troll hard counters AM
but they cant deal with domi shit
or well they didnt deal with it
humble yew
well they have oracle ult, black hole
stone geode
troll is 8k behind at this point
plush pivot
ru analysts panel really wanted NS for falcon's last pick, maybe that way they could out-tempo
stone geode
was it troll last pick?
humble yew
idk what else was there to pick tho
they could have picked huskar and play doom p1
stone geode
medusa into am?
plush pivot
they could have picked huskar and play doom p1 <:garf:1320173032743899157>
think PV coach said they wanted to see Huskar)
pos4 skadi
stray yew
pv is like tundra in wraith pact ti
stone geode
satanic looks like he is 12 years old
plush pivot
I dunno what that means
stone geode
buy dominator push lanes
stray yew
same when 33 bought wraith pact every game
falcons never buy it almost
and clearly its just better to buy it
this game wasnt even close
pv in full control entire game vs xg and now vs falcons
stone geode
9class buys dominator in every game
stone geode
his slark has been insane
stone geode
this pos4 centaur aint it though
plush pivot
dominators were out-tempoed
stray yew
ok maybe its not as hopeless
plush pivot
which is 2 heroes?
jolly crane
ban monkey and slark?
plush pivot
my thoughts as well
crazy thoughts - what if dota had items bans as well? during picks of course
plush pivot
very cool series
stone geode
1 more still to come today!
stray yew
finally a game 
plush pivot
nice grand finals rehearsal, would be nice to have bo5 of those 2 teams tomorrow
stone geode
last 2 years were 3-0
stone geode
never go high ground
plush pivot
BB is the team that makes moves and then throws to make a game more exciting
plush pivot
holy cinema
good show
humble yew
absolute cinema
plush pivot
BB just really wanted to throw
top4 is still a great result
but I doubt the team would remain the same
stone geode
russian teams love their roster reshuffles
plush pivot
4 vs 2 lol
plush pivot
he has, on stacks)
ancient harbor
plush pivot
9class found another hero to play, how to ban him completely now
stone geode
he ult canceled black hole
plush pivot
I don't think they have damage
stone geode
naix will have ac soon
ancient harbor
like even if somehow it's a SF ulti on top
thats what
2k damage?
they dont have enough chain stuns
plush pivot
only stun that works through bkb is golem I believe
stone geode
they said 2 bkb piercing stuns, I guess dawn ulti as well
plush pivot
is earth spirit playable now? think it could be cool 9class hero as well
plush pivot
naix needs basher I think, a little bit more fixation
plush pivot
30 mins in PV goes on highground
they lost only one tower - mid t1)
if PL is just running away what hope do they have
plush pivot
holy TB
stone geode
LB elim games 
plush pivot
this looks so grueling, I am not sure any team has a chance against Falcons in bo5 afterwards
holy, that dusa kiting for 10 thousand years
ancient harbor
holy shit xg are doing it?