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stray yew
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ye thing is he just needs to have 1 more item than he has rn

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aghs or blink

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or w/e he doesnt have

jolly crane
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think the linkens is making it

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really tough for the razor

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the lion/sd have to play so far back

stray yew
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linkens is just rly good this game

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in general

jolly crane
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they cant really trigger it

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so linking the naix is tough i feel

stray yew
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so many good st spells

stone geode
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link on support always

stray yew
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its joever

stone geode
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troll no bb so megas

stray yew
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troll mustve been somewhat early pick

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they have lots of answers tbh

stone geode
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would you belive it was last pick

stray yew
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even naix with aghs counters him completely

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ye then their draft is shit

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coz naix/sniper is rly strong into troll

stone geode
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gorp said troll vs naix bad

stray yew
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it is

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because naix gets aghs evntually

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and troll cant do anything about it

jolly crane
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dy mvp for sure tho

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this game wouldve gone entirely different

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if he didnt turn so many engages in the early game

stray yew
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xg leveled up their play honestly

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since whatever last tournament was

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but also its online

stone geode
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even watching the 2nd group stage

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they had some weird games there

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good play in their last couple series

stray yew
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good jump by razor

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but they're just too behind

jolly crane
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does link keep ticking

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when you naix ult

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or does it break it

stray yew
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i guess no

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i mean link steals damage

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but you dont auto

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coz you're disarmed

jolly crane
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well you dont exist anymore

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when you aghs someone

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so idk

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how it works with link then

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you dont attack but do you keep draining damage

stray yew
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ye

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i think he linked sniper

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and got ulted by naix

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so he still links sniper

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just no autos

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coz normally you auto

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and you need to stop command to not attack

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coz its just automatically attacking for you if you link

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gives vision too

jolly crane
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oh ye im just wondering if you link naix

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and naix uses aghs on you

stray yew
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ye

jolly crane
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does it keep stealing dam or not

stray yew
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you still suck him

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imo

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because even if someone gets disrupted

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or astraled by od

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you still suck their dam

jolly crane
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good game tho by XG

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they read spirits map movement really well

stray yew
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i think if this wasnt early troll pick

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and theypicked into stuff like naix/sniper

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that was just real bad choice

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but i just cant be fucked watching 3 weeks tournament with 2 grp stages

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its too much

jolly crane
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ye for sure

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idk picking sd+lion as supports every game

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just feels bad

worn drift
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Dont know why yatoro believes in troll as much as he does

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I will never stop hating this hero until its reworked

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Rancid hero

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You’re a good hero in lane then you just do absolutely nothing for the rest of the game

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The only thing you are okay it is standing toe to toe with another carry in melee but who is even gonna let you do that

jolly crane
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really didnt feel like this game was on him

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his cores failed every rotation

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for the firtst 15 minutes

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instead of keeping the naix down, they fed him more gold

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cause they repeatedly underestimated the ET stomp to disrupt them, and then the mars tps in, hits 2-3man arena to counter every time

stone geode
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not a very good tournament for collapse

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same support combo in each game as well, as you said

jolly crane
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collapse struggling for sure, ye

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mars used to be one of his go-to heroes

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but its not doing too well

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psure mira played lion in over half his games this tourney

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probably more

worn drift
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Classic spirit classic

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Need to wait until tourny prize pool is 10mil +

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Then maybe playable

stone geode
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wtf

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how did bb 4 man them

worn drift
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wait

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wtf is that lion

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3 spikes???

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what is doing that

humble yew
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lvl 20 talent

stone geode
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troll NotLikeThis

humble yew
jolly crane
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14kills in 30 minutes

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atf mad kekdog

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tbf, justified

stone geode
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BB in shambles

humble yew
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cant handle falcons

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no one can atm

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too good at everything in the game

stone geode
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didnt look like losing any of these games

worn drift
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Idk if bb is capable of winning a bo5 tbh

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Feels like something goes wrong its just a tiltathon

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Was watching last night and that game where they had troll warlord was ugly

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But ye falcons potent

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Last year was year of gg now its year of falcons

jolly crane
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idk they play

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really bad imo

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BB that is

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falcons isnt being pressured at all in these games i feel

humble yew
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they own the meta

manic ermine
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I hop on to watch falcons play razor and that hero is permabanned vs them

wraith scroll
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Falcons is fucking gross.

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90% WR in that tournament, absolute beasts.

jolly crane
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one of these

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is not like the others

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31 kills in the game btw, that we lost

stray yew
jolly crane
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playing against monkey

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thats sitting in base for 20 minutes at lv1

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killing couriers

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what is dota

stray yew
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ye thats useless

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you just play with no courier

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and accept it

stray yew
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@jolly cranewhen you have some absolute animal in your team

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and oyu know he's the reason why you lost

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and then you play against him

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and you win

jolly crane
stray yew
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@jolly crane OkayEGG

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jolly crane
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fuck morph

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love you tho

stray yew
stray yew
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nigma cant even win vs trash teams to qualify for tournaments

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fraud team

rugged cipher
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Just walked past insania, top tier weeb with akatsuki jacket

jolly crane
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watching that entity og game

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with monkey

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its so disgusting

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9 courier kills in 11min

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lmao

jolly crane
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crazy game rn

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megas for both teams

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but this WR itembuild just wasnt it

jolly crane
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bzm invoker networth OMEGALUL

stone geode
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secret vs nigma later today

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the washed up classico

jolly crane
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yatoro morph

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1v9 not possible

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unlucky

thorny fiber
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Yattttooorooooo

jolly crane
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@stray yew you happy that morph is meta again arent you

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watching this game

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just another example of why i hate this hero

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getting tossed into fountain twice, doesnt matter

stray yew
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im not playing dota

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so idc

jolly crane
stray yew
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ye 10 days ago

jolly crane
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this game is kinda nuts

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kotl base defense too stronk

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chaos knight just popping the razor in 2 hits OMEGALUL

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best game ive seen in a long while

jolly crane
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nts so cute

atomic pine
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LOGIN

jade bramble
stray yew
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birmingham is on btw

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if anyone is watching

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i know only grp stage

manic ermine
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Really good games so far

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Pyrion is gonna interact with crowd in the main stage so it should be a fun watch

worn drift
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nice to see decent amount of competitive teams unlike last year

worn drift
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lmfao

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sneyking denies uncontested aeigs

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i cant

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LMAO

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skiter - "bitches" shortly after in chat

humble yew
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all chat going crazy since the start lmao

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good stuff

manic ermine
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The beer major

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stone geode
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some of these arcanas are a bit wild, thought that razor was oracle

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also venge looks like skywrath

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blood cyka is done

jolly crane
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ngl i dont understand that betboom draft

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kotl+muerta firtpicks

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and then falcons just pick 3 strength cores and wait out the game

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until those heroes become useless

stone geode
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BB finals choke

stray yew
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bb finals

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just like vp on ti

stone geode
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its joever

stray yew
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thats a new thing tho

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eu hasnt won a single tournament i think

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ever since GG won a lot last season

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i think its been mostly cis/falcons show

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betboom/falcons show even

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maybe nigma can finally qualify somewhere

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coz falcons get straight invites from MENA qual Classic

stone geode
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isnt falcons eu though

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or do they play different region

stray yew
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ehh middle of the pack id say

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nah they play MENA

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its diff region

stone geode
stray yew
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they have slovak/dane

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american/canadian (coach)

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jordan and russian

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theyh're from this region

stone geode
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NA is back

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ive not watched since dreamleague I think

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not the last one, the one before

stray yew
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i wonder if its falcons have upper hand vs betboom and itsj ust how it is

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or is it finals factor

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for bb

stone geode
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I see dreamleague s22 they got 3-0 in finals as well

stone geode
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there is a tournament with good teams in it happening

jolly crane
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idk

stone geode
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didnt know about it until now

jolly crane
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the way liquid is playing

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XG destroyed spirit earlier as well

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ame is playing an insane tournament

stone geode
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pango safe lane, not seen that before

jolly crane
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in swiss stage he played 8 heroes in 8 games

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100% winrate

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think they havent lost a game all tournament yet

stone geode
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this is ame year for TI

jolly crane
stone geode
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then spirit wakes up

jolly crane
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well he did show yatoro how to play gyro earlier OMEGALUL

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ame wins with it, yatoro loses with it

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lastpick kunkka btw

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tbf not his fault

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his tusk is utterly useless

stone geode
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33 washed

jolly crane
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nah

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not his fault at all

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he plays into gyro/chen

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and gets abandoned minute 5

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has an earthspirit sitting under his tower for 3 minutes

stone geode
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jk, I dont think ive seen liquid since he joined

jolly crane
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falcons gonna struggle going highground tho

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but once the es has heart done

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dont think they can kill him

stone geode
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not sure, gold lead too big

jolly crane
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ye idk liquid is just dying

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1by1

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idk what nisha is doing midlane like that

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by himself

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lol

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guess if liquid doesnt even try defending hg

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its easy to puish rax

stone geode
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slaughtered

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actually forgot nine was a stand in

worn drift
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Naga games always so funny

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Naga top nw by a good chunk then enemy 3 cores then nagas 2 cores starving

stone geode
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just noticed, what is that disruptor ulti radius holy

stone geode
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lolquid

stray yew
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liquid Classic

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(im liquid hater)

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the only saving grace for them is its kinda shit patch for 33 and he's still only one delivering

stone geode
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not looked good in the last 2 series ive watched

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pick pango every game

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I guess thats meta?

stray yew
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everyone picks pango

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hero is just broken

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straight up

stone geode
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what did they buff to make it op again

stray yew
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i dont think they did anything

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it got nerfed

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last time i remember

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but its still broken

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if pango was a 2006 hero he'd have all spells cost 20% more mana/20% more cd

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and do less damage

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by now

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but h e's some 2017 or w/e year hero he got released

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so still not tuned finely xdd

stone geode
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ive not played in a really long time\

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do you play vector spells with quick cast or no

stray yew
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its all preference

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but id say most people do quick cast all spells

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besides maybe like chrono

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and bramble maze from willow

stone geode
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they just seem so clunky to me

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I played a couple games of marci

stray yew
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matter of being used to

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i find them clunky too

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but i dont have 100s of games on these heroes

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in fact i have 0 games on pango for example

stone geode
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I think I have like 5 games combined on void spirit and mari

stray yew
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i do have quite a few on void spirit

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and i was hitting most of my q's when i was playing a lot

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but now id miss all

stone geode
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his spell isnt as bad

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marci shit is like it doesnt work how I want

stray yew
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0 eu teams in top 4

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europe been kinda weak recently tho

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they havent been making finals even

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it was mostly bb/falcons

stone geode
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falcons is EU in my mind

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also russian teams are EU

stray yew
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im just going by regions they're qualifying from

stone geode
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ye, I get that

stray yew
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but i do get your pov too

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falcons is a weird one

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2 eu/2 na/1 russian

stone geode
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so much concetration of good teams it had to be split somehow

stray yew
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and 1 middle east

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(i took coach in)

stone geode
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NA you have like 0.5 teams

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guess they play league over there or something

stray yew
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i dont even think its league angle

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its valorant angle for thbem

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and fortnite

stone geode
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NA is just play games nobody gives a shit about so you can claim you are the best

stray yew
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in russia every kid plays cs or dota i think

stone geode
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like baseball

stray yew
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at least in cs

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if you're some cs org

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you just get some 15 year old russian kid that pops off in fpl

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and you already have great odds he will be decent

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but in dota too, lots of young russian talent popping off and high ranks

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legit sub 18 yo kids

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with top 20 rank on ladder

stone geode
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its a free game

stray yew
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ye ofc

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i wonder what happened in russia that league is so uhm forgotten

stone geode
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big popularity

stray yew
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coz its a free game too

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that works on any pc

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but i guess ssome wc3 cult there

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going on

stone geode
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I dont know much about league personally

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never played it, always been dota

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blizzard games and wc3 were kinda big here

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and friends played dota2 beta as well

stray yew
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LMAO

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bristle

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that is bristle moment

stone geode
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100s out

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bristle throw PAUSE

stray yew
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wasnt rly throw

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that fountain dive was justified

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and now he just got one tapped by luna with rapier that they werent aware of

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unironically that fountain dive was fine

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if he kills luna there that was on 0 they just win

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coz no buyback

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bristles do that coz quills are stupid

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liquid wins fight and they cant get out on map anyway

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he got best neutral item too

stone geode
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marci damage pretty insane

stray yew
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what a boring game

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30 minute afk in base

stone geode
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ye

jolly crane
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XG vs falcons now

jolly crane
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then XG picked it twice in their first playoff match

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and now its kind of back in the meta again OMEGALUL

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it was 4-1 like 2days ago, or yesterday even

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playing into viper and bristle

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thats gotta be some of the biggest cancer

stray yew
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they have timber vs bristle

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its not good playing bristle vs timber

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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hardest counter there is probably

jolly crane
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im mostly worried about the networth difference

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on viper/brew

stray yew
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patch is too good for falcons

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mars/timber/raozr good

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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imagine if its full minion meta

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ammar is in bin

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and 33 stonks

jolly crane
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both these teams have been smurfing on the rest of the competition this tournament

stray yew
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sniper too

jolly crane
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falcons lost 1 game, XG are unbeaten yet

stone geode
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not sure any 33 stonks help liquid

stray yew
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thats like saying

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not sure if patching ammar would help

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look at major og won in stockholm

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and then tio

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ti

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they patched all his heroes and he still played them

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and they were shit

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got like top 8 only or sth

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or even worse maybe

jolly crane
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ye thats why bulldog isnt a proplayer anymore

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LD/prophet not good

stray yew
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i mean bulldogs playstyle

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got patched

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its not even heroes

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splitpush meta got patched/changed/nerfed

jolly crane
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ye

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i mean people hyperfocused on bulldog anyway

stone geode
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when was he last on a pro team

stray yew
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ages ago

jolly crane
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when it was akke that won them that TI

stray yew
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not like he was aspiring to be pro anyway for a long time

stone geode
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streaming more money and more comfort most likely

stray yew
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this game looks to be a stomp

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unplayable

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they took viper and it lsot lane

jolly crane
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dunno

stray yew
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game is unplayable

jolly crane
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havent seen a fight with split yet

stray yew
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he just died

jolly crane
stray yew
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its over

jolly crane
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ye idk the viper just kinda

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doesnt do much this game

stray yew
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it lost lane

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lane stomper lost lane

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it shouldnt ever happen

jolly crane
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ye

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but i mean this was

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a 4v2 and a 5v3

stray yew
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bristle cant play into timber

stone geode
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does viper win against WR though

jolly crane
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and that 5v3 looked kinda close

stray yew
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idk it should win vs everything

jolly crane
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wr got firstblood

stray yew
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or at least break even

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and he got shitstomped kinda

jolly crane
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on ame

stray yew
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had like 12cs vs 24 on wr

jolly crane
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so he plays into a wr with bracer on lane

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you dont win that

stone geode
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I think viper just loses every game ive seen

jolly crane
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xm loses a lot on viper

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in mid

stray yew
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this game is done

jolly crane
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but still wins every game

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so idk

stone geode
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believe in ame

jolly crane
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the level difference is insane tho

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lv9 brew vs lv15 timber

stray yew
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enigma has more than brew

stone geode
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although its 8k at 20 mins

stray yew
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and its enigma 5

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if this bristle wasnt into timber

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then maybe

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but its too hard

jolly crane
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i believe in ame

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tbh

stone geode
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1v9

jolly crane
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he has item progression at least

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viper does as well

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its the brew im worried about

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but i think in a full 5v5 fight, XG has a shot

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so far all engagemetns were with falcons just moving around better

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catching 2-3 people

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while XG is too split

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thats what losing 2 lanes does to you

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kinda hate how DK basically only has 1 itembuild

stray yew
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i think i never see skiter dk lose

jolly crane
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how does xinq

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have a bkb

stray yew
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actually

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comeback

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idk how they make it work

jolly crane
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trust in ame

stray yew
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is bristle this borken

jolly crane
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the marci did a lot in this fight tho

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just full going in with bkb

stray yew
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its xinq

jolly crane
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completely zoned them on the ledge

stray yew
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he's not getting enough credit

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i think

jolly crane
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ye

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he plays very greedy

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and tthey give him decent farm prio

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often over xxs

stray yew
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i hate marci

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nothing feels worse than getting jumped on by marci 4 with bkb/basher

stone geode
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xm, xxs, dy

stray yew
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and you just die

stone geode
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I cant tell who is who

jolly crane
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skiter is having some xp issues i think

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hes only lv 15

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his timber was 15 like

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5minutes ago

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crit is 14

stray yew
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they need bkbs or kill brew before fight

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lift is rly screwing them over

jolly crane
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ye

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they have a lot of control

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bane takes out 1 hero

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so does brew

stray yew
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bane has minigame

jolly crane
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and whoever marci jumps is kinda of

stray yew
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he needs to save for blackhole

jolly crane
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ye

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great smoke from falcons after that failed ame gank

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insta smoke

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into pushing for another kill

stray yew
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just wait for the moment they get silver edge

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and bristle gets one shot

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every bristle game

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there is a bristle death like that

jolly crane
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ye he still melts

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if they can focus on him

stray yew
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they defend without him anyway

jolly crane
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lol

stray yew
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i dont understand dota

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your highest nw hero dead

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you go 4v5 into bh

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win

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how does that make any sense

jolly crane
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ye idk

stray yew
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dk no form i think

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coz he just pressed it now

jolly crane
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no dk dragon

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and timber went out quickly

stone geode
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no dragon no hole

stray yew
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they did have hole

jolly crane
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i think falcons doesnt have a good fight if they dont get the jump

stray yew
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they pressed it

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but they didnt kill marci

jolly crane
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solo blackhole

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on marci

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and brewlings

stone geode
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well ye they went in after they holed a bkb pos5

jolly crane
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and didnt kill OMEGALUL

stray yew
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he's pos 4 but good kill anyway

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he is doing a lot in the fights

jolly crane
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the marci is a big problem ye

stone geode
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thought xinq played 5

jolly crane
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it gives the viper a lot of damage

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nah hes always been pos4

stone geode
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who was 5 on lgd?

jolly crane
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y

stray yew
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y'

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i think

jolly crane
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ex wings pos5

stray yew
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ye

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wings most enigmatic team to ever play dota

jolly crane
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haha ye

stray yew
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shitstomp everyone in ti noone knows why

jolly crane
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then get fucked over by ruru

stray yew
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they had some insane insight

jolly crane
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i mean tbf

stray yew
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noone understood

jolly crane
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that was the TI

stray yew
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and then disband

jolly crane
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where digital chaos made it to top3

stray yew
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everyone was weak probably that TI

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i guess

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if DC made finals

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on a reject team

jolly crane
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i wonder which team benefits more from refreshers here

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cuz dota lategame these days is just

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refresher gaming i feel

stray yew
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xg i think

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more value from bkbs

jolly crane
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hmye

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but they dont have bkbs

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marci is the only one

stray yew
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razor waiting for 25 talent

jolly crane
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viper/bristle are going linkens it seems

stray yew
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to become universal

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i guess need linkens

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vs walrus

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thatt works right

jolly crane
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dk manta is so obnoxious to play into

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ye

stray yew
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coz getting kicked into 5 people

jolly crane
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i think its mostly

stray yew
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i dont think anyone is living that

jolly crane
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they dont wanna get blink stunned

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but have time to react

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falcons doesnt really have initiation

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beyond the dk/tusk blinks

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linkens deals with those

stray yew
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tihs looks extremely weird

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but i think fine for falcons

jolly crane
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aegis for 2 more minutes

stray yew
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sell skiter for big ult

jolly crane
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ye

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next fight without aegis and split

stray yew
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if his tp was ready he was fine too

jolly crane
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if they time it right

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XG likes their linkens tho

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they played it a few games already

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where they just do 2-3 linkens on their cores

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xinq nullifier OMEGALUL

stray yew
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you know whats funny

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if that bane gets aghs

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they dont rly have a stop

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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are you gonna blackhole?

jolly crane
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but i think hes far away from it

stray yew
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he bought midas

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so i think he's going for it

jolly crane
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no silver edge is weird tho

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XG played bristle a bunch so idk if falcons felt

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they can handle it

stray yew
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think they dont care about bristle

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they know he dies last

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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and they can kill him anyway

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i guess?

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is their logic

jolly crane
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probably

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but i think thats tough

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connecting on viper

stray yew
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also no upgraded urn either

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idk

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thats solid pickup vs bristle also on avg

jolly crane
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no natural vessel carry i think

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you dont really wanna get it on timber

stray yew
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enigma/tusk could imo

jolly crane
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ye but itd delay blink

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and now its too late ig?

stray yew
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enigma went gg boots

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and he was rly farmed

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he fell behgind a bit now

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but he was proper farmed early on

jolly crane
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LMAO

stray yew
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xinq

jolly crane
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xinq

stray yew
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gigachad

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look at that

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pos 4 17k nw

jolly crane
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meanwhile brew

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gets rax

stray yew
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i cba man

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this hero

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fuck that

jolly crane
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8k dmg marci

stray yew
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ye thats my thing

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with that hero

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its alwayts like taht

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they lost i think

jolly crane
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ye going on bristle without silver edge

stray yew
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i did ask my friend thats huge timber spammer

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he said its not that bad matchup as i thought at least

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so there is that Okay

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but they were idk 10k down?

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brew had no game

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crazy

stone geode
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have to believe in the 100% winrate team

stray yew
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their teamfight

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not their team fighting this game

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its just their teamfight its some old psg lgd peak level

jolly crane
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i mean falcons is like

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7-1

stray yew
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play everything perfect

jolly crane
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XG 7-0

stray yew
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but somehow be behind early

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and just win by teamfighting

jolly crane
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ye

stone geode
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that building dam

jolly crane
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that radiant triangle fight

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with the marci BKB

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kinda broke their momentum completely

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tbf considering falcons is playing with standin

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theyre still doing super well

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oh nvm its 11-0 for XG now, 11-4 for falcons (counting current game)

stray yew
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ye falcons are scary

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their fundamentals must be insane

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if they can slot in standin

jolly crane
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theyve been looking like GG last season

stray yew
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with diff hero pool tbh

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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and they are still doing this good

jolly crane
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malrine plays different style than nine

stray yew
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it is a big downgrade imo

jolly crane
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think having aui as coach is just

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cant do better, really

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what are these skillbuilds also

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marci lv1 dispose

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brew didnt skill Q

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at all

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ame clinkz POGGERS

stray yew
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banned marci

jolly crane
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bristle going through this time

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but ye i think if you give your pos4 a bit of farm prio

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theres a few heroes that are insanely good this patch

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marci/hood are like the big 2

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SD as well

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heroes that with just 1 big item early on can do so much

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if you have sd with aghs minute 20-25, it makes such a big difference

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think this timber is gonna have a great game

stray yew
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ye insane lane top tbh

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put timber thats unkillable and let xinq do whatever he wants

jolly crane
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theres just nothing really keeping him from doing his thing in teamfights

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other than enigma imo

stray yew
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ye but he just gets windwaker or aghs

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and he's unkillable

jolly crane
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ye exactly

stray yew
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noone wants to nulli either

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on enemy team

jolly crane
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its kind of the same issue i had with the falcons draft last game

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theyre lacking some "oomph" in their draft

stray yew
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i cant believe

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team abandoned him

jolly crane
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haha

stray yew
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it took so long

jolly crane
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ye idk its like

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they dont have the damage to take anything down fast

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its just dk/viper/pango

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last game was similar

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dk/wr/timber

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they have some burst but when you go into a hero like bristle or a bkb hero

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wheres the damage come from to kill smth

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many fights end up being one where they engage and the hero they engage on still get their spells off

stray yew
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its joever

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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ammar shut down

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either because of draft or the way xg plays

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both games tbh

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he didnt rly pop off

stone geode
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I dont even know what clinkz spells do these days

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been reworked a bunch of times

stray yew
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i dont think anyone knows

stone geode
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I just remember strafe, burning arrows, stealth and eat creep

jolly crane
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didnt feel the enigma either game tbh

stone geode
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thats the version

jolly crane
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its still the same pmuch

stray yew
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enigma/dk got countered so hard with timber

jolly crane
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burnign arrows was turned into a debuff you target at enemy

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as long as they stand in it

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they take bonus dmg

stray yew
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they got shitstomped on lane

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1v2

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that never happens nowadays

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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outdrafted

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timber was too godly pick

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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it is with standin

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ofc

jolly crane
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ye

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tbh

stray yew
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but still xg looking insane

jolly crane
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i think nine is playing very well

stray yew
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not dropping a map still

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ye but its just

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maybe they committed resources in draft

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to comfort himm

jolly crane
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theyre playing stuff few other people play

stray yew
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yaknow

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so its def diff

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with normal lineup

jolly crane
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like shaker, bristle

stray yew
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that they prac etc

jolly crane
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marci as well tbh

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and they play it really well

stray yew
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ye xinq on marci

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thats a ban

jolly crane
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the bane just did a fuckton in both games

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he completely stomped the bottomlane in game2

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guess thats why they prio it for first pick like this

stray yew
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its hard to ban them

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coz they are just 100% winrate on everything

stone geode
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just call it

jolly crane
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nah

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dont lose faith in bristle

stone geode
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that was for g1

jolly crane
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oh ye

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idk bristle once again seems kinda silly

stone geode
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seems to be turning now

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going for bristle again

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🐸

worn drift
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Falcons will 2-0 spirit tomorrow and xtreme will probably 3-0 or 3-1 falcons

jolly crane
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Dunno, Spirit is playing well, they just got rolled by XG

worn drift
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Dunno if they are in their form yet

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Xtreme and falcons prob just have a better read on the game rn

jolly crane
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ye

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but falcons with standin so idk

worn drift
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Whose their stand in?

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On what pos

stone geode
#

tundra nine

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mid

worn drift
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Hm ye maybe they lose then

jolly crane
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hes been playing great tho thus far

worn drift
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Malrine is pretty integral to falcons

jolly crane
#

ye

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i mean, skiter and nine won a TI together so

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but ye

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theyre still cruising over any other team honestly, just not XG

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ame/xinq are in top form atm i think

stray yew
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if its falcons/xg finalks rematch i expect more from falcons

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surely aui will prepare them

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he isnt a stupid coach in fact he is the best coach by far

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only people remotely close would be xiao8/heen

jolly crane
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ye

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the enigma pos5 both times just didnt work out at all

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and giving them bane both games

stray yew
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they need to let sth go through

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thats the issue

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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you cant ban marci and bane probably

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and there are some stupid picks like kotl that people always ban

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or pango

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etc

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they just need to find answers i guess

jolly crane
#

ye

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i think their worst problem is that XG seems to have figured out how to deal with dk, razor and timber

stray yew
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ye if they can always beat that

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then idk how can falcons beat them

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that is what falcons was stomping people with

jolly crane
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yep

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they just let them get DK every time and that was their #1 hero

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same for liquid

stray yew
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nullifying your best player

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seems good

stone geode
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monkey net worth NotLikeThis

worn drift
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yeaaa lol

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the stand in is being felt

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but also.. skiter is fucking garbage

stone geode
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I thought they went for him a bit too much at the expense of letting timber get huge

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reality rift arrow

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TI champion play

worn drift
stone geode
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MK blademail

worn drift
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he knows hes not gonna get big

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so hes jsut trying to make use of any of his nw

stone geode
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its joever for him

worn drift
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blade mail is an effective item for how much it costs tbh

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can randomly inflict a super high amount of dmg

stone geode
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it just perfectly reflected his game state

worn drift
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skiter is just such a non pos 1 player lol

stone geode
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tundra 9

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living up to his name

stray yew
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@worn drift when falcons was winning and stomping everyone i sleep

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but now with standin when they finally lose

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its REAL shit

stone geode
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5k at 11 mins

worn drift
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Spirit drafted some dog shit this game lmao

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0 jump against kotl good luck

stone geode
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viper mid with bristle already in

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and let hoodwink be in the game

worn drift
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Falcon need to continue this game as much as possible for demoralization value

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Sneyking actually cant die lol, he has same nw as spirit cores

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Astronomical mid game nw gap

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This would have been comebackable if they lost early + mid a bit less

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But you cant even make big pick plays when kotl has some shit like eblade

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That was just actual abomination of a draft

stone geode
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never count spirit out

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except that last game

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1st pick pango

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32% win rate

jolly crane
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ye pango aint doing too hit this tourney

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think its just a comfort pick for many people

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but i think people build him wrong

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its a lot of aghs rush and stuff and idk, i always liked the nts pango more which went basher pretty early and was just super annoying in teamfights

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the aghs rush is a quinn thing, and i think hes the only one who is reasonably successful with it still

jolly crane
#

riki

jolly crane
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seems to be working very well though

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its starving the supports so much because they have to spend more on sentries and cant risk farming in risky areas as much

#

same level as yatoro on pos4 riki

stone geode
#

bkb tp

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classic strat

jolly crane
#

ye

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spirit taking very smart fights

#

knowing exactly how long they can commit to it before they gotta go out, even if it means exchanging all cooldowns just to grab a support kill

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i still dont see the win condition for spirit tho

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evne if they turn the game and push highground

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unless they got 2+ kills before, i dont see how they can push hg

stone geode
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cant really fight well into dark seer and razor

jolly crane
#

ye

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and if this goes very late

stone geode
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have to get out fast

jolly crane
#

riki will pick up a nullifier and do decent damage

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spirit lucky on the rosh respawn imo

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will heavily rest on collapses shoulders once he gets refresher

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but in late, i dont see how they deal with bane aghs or a lv 25 razor or farmed riki pos4

stone geode
#

its joever

jolly crane
#

well that was a decent wall

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teams need to ban the bane

#

its doing way too much both in the laning stage and in the later stages of the game

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and the hero basically needs no items

#

larl not winning mid vs razor also put spirit on the backfoot way too much i think

#

great io performance tho imo

#

hard to do in this game

jolly crane
#

XG full reserve time for their last pick still

#

think theyre just having a blast drafting whatever they want

jolly crane
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big pugna pick in this game imo

stone geode
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xg are vincible

jolly crane
#

ye

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all it took was a pos4 naga pick

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was good draft by spirit

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i liked the jugg against kunkka/naix

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didnt feel the TA lastpick at all on XG

#

they had more time to cook on that one imo

#

most fights they just got controlled by the bane+centaur

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while pugna+healing ward kept them healthy

#

bit too fancy this draft for XG

jolly crane
#

cant wait for spirit to pull another miracle out of their asses beating XG here

#

wouldnt surprise me

stone geode
#

not a huge zven fan

#

gyro seems to be winning a lot of games

jolly crane
#

dunno

#

lesh+gyro into triple strength core

#

no shadow demon to amp damage either

#

dont think spirit have much to be afraid of this game

#

XG just needed to 3man with centaur+marci+grim but theyv kinda missed their window

#

centaur going veil before blink, dunno

stone geode
#

not sure how effective bat and willow are going to be

jolly crane
#

willow is cancerous to play into

#

brambles everywhere

#

to me the biggest issue is that centaur just isnt a good lategame hero

stray yew
#

mira is a known spammer too

jolly crane
#

unless he can keep up in farm

stone geode
#

carry willow 100% shadow realm uptime

jolly crane
#

which he rarely can

stone geode
jolly crane
#

meanwhile primal is just

stray yew
#

ye primal is a stupid hero

jolly crane
#

super high value in late and ultra late game scenarios

stray yew
#

you can tell its a 2020+ hero

jolly crane
#

primal does the same as centaur bit with 1 less item

stone geode
#

dk and sven witout ulties

stray yew
#

dk has 100% uptime

#

in lategame

jolly crane
#

dk not having ulti is just

stray yew
#

close to

jolly crane
#

not smth that exists

stray yew
#

ye

jolly crane
#

like

#

primal just comes

#

from longer range than centaur

#

to do a bkb pierce disable

#

i actually loathe this hero

stone geode
#

onslaught from downtown

#

to pulverize bkb tp

jolly crane
#

they fumbled the fight at spirits mid t2

#

having supports stack

#

and xm not using bkb

stray yew
#

spirit never loses bo5s

jolly crane
#

ye

stray yew
#

they have never lost a bo5

jolly crane
#

spirit is just

#

so insanely good in grand finals

stray yew
#

they might get knocked out in grps