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worn drift
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Ye there isn’t much else kinda just have to do it

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I always used 1 2 3 4 5 keys for meepo

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Would probably do number keys for all micro heroes

jolly crane
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33 in liquid

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kinda pog?

stone geode
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its not even on liquipedia yet

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thats tundra deadge I guess

jolly crane
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ye tundra released roster

stone geode
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where are you getting these scoops

molten gorge
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he's on the inside

jolly crane
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never forget

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good to know how highly your own character basegcat

jolly crane
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sumail suing EG

stone geode
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need to get oxi on the case

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I know what some of those mean

agile onyx
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EG is in Delaware?

worn drift
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Thats just where their corp is registered most likely

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Its because delaware doesn’t have a corporate income tax

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(If they don’t do business in the state)

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Basically its a corporate tax haven

craggy pivot
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EG and mistreating Players name a more classic duo

worn drift
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Ye he’ll probably win

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Cuz sueing in cali lmao

rugged cipher
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does it say how much he is asking for

worn drift
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Probably not?

rugged cipher
jolly crane
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likely got moved around a lot

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apparently it was about him leaving EG while he was still under contract

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and he had a $150k penalty on it that they made him pay or smth

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idk

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EG can suck it

stone geode
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its happening

jolly crane
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last time fly left a team

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that team became new TI champ

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twice

jade bramble
woeful blade
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did he leave, or get booted lol

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this time

humble yew
stone geode
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seli was right

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insider info

jolly crane
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kekdog @stray yew

stray yew
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hm?

worn drift
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Rtz madge at nightfall

stray yew
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they played in team together

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zai called nisha jankos in all chat

jolly crane
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rtz madge

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cuz he gets counterpicked

molten gorge
manic ermine
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Nts in a new team

jolly crane
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monet as well

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solid team imo

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but overall feels like a bit of a downgrade for nts

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lgd did really well considering 3 of their players were pretty damn new to t1 lan tourneys

manic ermine
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Lgd should've stuck together imo

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They needed time and could easily win next TI with more experience

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Who is gonna fill the mid gap for lgd now I wonder

jolly crane
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maybe the director will just

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find another natural talent in this pubs

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or already has

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nvm

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nts, planet, y and xiao8 are all leaving lgd

manic ermine
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Also bulldog is back to streaming ranked

stray yew
humble yew
molten gorge
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pov you're pos 4 bh

manic ermine
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The pos 4 bh moment is when you first phase pick it and your mid decides to pick Riki anyway

stone geode
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2 carries, pog

worn drift
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did tundra fully disband

stone geode
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I think the only remaining player is topson but he was just a stand in for TI

worn drift
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is rtz going back pos 2

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why is he playing mid pudge

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nvm hes just getting carried by nightfall

jolly crane
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fly to nouns

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with gunnar and lelis

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shopify rtz, yopaj, saberlight, kitrak

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and ceb apparently returns as pos5 for OG

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g2 probably behind that IG roster

jolly crane
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cuz their mainsponsor got banned in china (a betting site)

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so they havent been paid in a while, and players like nts are very expensive

humble yew
stray yew
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we suck

humble yew
jade bramble
jolly crane
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tank for skyline

stray yew
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puppey winning quals with his son?

molten gorge
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new patch on monday

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only letter patch though

stray yew
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makes sense

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we had big number patch 'recently'

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bigp atches come out like 2 times per year max i wanna say

jolly crane
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skyline based raiders

rugged cipher
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should be patience from zhou during progress

jolly crane
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theyre gaming

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6/9 shortly after echo, and theyre like 12hrs behind

stone geode
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echo going to get rolled this tier

jolly crane
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immediately made me think of bamboe sad

ancient harbor
worn drift
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my god ck got fucked in the ass

jade bramble
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GOOOOOOOOOOD angery

humble yew
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it was kinda necessary, best laner in the game by far

jolly crane
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that earth spirit nerf is huge

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entirely underwhelming

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overall tho

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its like

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0.5sec or 1sec cd increase/decrease

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super minor shit

lilac cape
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meme

manic ermine
molten gorge
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yeah this looks bonkers

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hopefully they nerf NPs teleport

jolly crane
humble yew
jolly crane
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true

humble yew
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very real

jade bramble
jade bramble
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Later.

worn drift
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tb trembles

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talent change is nuts

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ember back to meta

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jugg also will be busted

jade bramble
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Gust revealing invisible units is the most obvious change I've ever heard I think.

manic ermine
stray yew
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based valve

worn drift
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Funniest way of banning people ive ever seen

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Valve way too based

manic ermine
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Grand finals going to a game 5

thorny fiber
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GG in another meaningless final

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Is it gonna be another year of GG winning every small tournament

manic ermine
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Believe in AR

humble yew
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CHINA NUMBER ONE

manic ermine
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They did it!

hybrid gate
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SHIVA OMEGA BIS ITEM

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NO CAP

manic ermine
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And solar crest

humble yew
jolly crane
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xinq nyx was

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something else

jolly crane
humble yew
stray yew
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they should just ban him and put msg from valve fuck off you arent welcome

jolly crane
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well he is banned

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its just funny

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how even his smurfs are like

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4k behavior score

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but he still vehemently claims its the systedm thats bad

humble yew
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is he banned because hes racist or smthg?

jolly crane
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mason has been a toxic piece of shit for pmuch a decade at this point

humble yew
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like giga toxic ig

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yeh ik about the toxicity

jolly crane
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spampinging when someone makes a mistake, being passive or outright aggressive to people via coms

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and ye, hes a bigot as well

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last time he got temp-banned and called out for it his response was "stay mad, ill be back in 30days"

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well

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that was 4months ago kekdog

humble yew
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lel

jolly crane
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his smurfs are 4-5k behavior score as well

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and the booster raised his score in unranked games in like 10 games

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so clearly it cant be that hard to get behavior score up

humble yew
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one less toxic piece of shit on the ladder

jolly crane
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and on twitch

humble yew
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true

jolly crane
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where hes been normalizing this kind of behavior for years

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just like quinn

manic ermine
humble yew
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Stupid + moron, nice combo

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I always knew he was a dick/bigot, heard stuff in the past but not this far

manic ermine
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The ban doesn't do much tho

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He's free to create another account

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And he did

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And his viewership went up

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A bit like tyler 1 situation

rugged cipher
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prolly lost skins etc collected over all of dota 2

jolly crane
manic ermine
stray yew
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@plush pivot @turbid bramble OkayEGG

plush pivot
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wrong channel

stray yew
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its ok

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you got there anyway

plush pivot
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1 div is pog

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I dunno how on hc but on sc catalysts really added up well for profits

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getting 7 prismatics doubled

stone geode
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prismatics big money

jolly crane
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the fuck is this overlay

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for betboom tourney

turbid bramble
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why am I here

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why did this pop up for me

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WHAT IS THIS VOODOO

jolly crane
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science and magic

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meepo pick monakS

turbid bramble
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oh sebe tagged me in an ultimatum reward

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k love you bye seli

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and other dota people

stray yew
humble yew
faint lance
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easy solution

stray yew
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@jolly crane

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mandatory @turbid bramble

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to throw him off

stone geode
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@turbid bramble dota fan?

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what even is morph aghs these days

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thought he was shit now

stray yew
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its actually craziest morph patch for me tbh

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i was big phylactery enjoyer already

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and you build good upgrade out of it

turbid bramble
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Idk what I’m looking at

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But if you’re happy I’m happy

jolly crane
stray yew
stray yew
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idk if anyone here is playing dota zwei recently

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but disperser fun item

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no more getting kited by 1 piss slow

manic ermine
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It's the best dispell item atm

jolly crane
humble yew
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and every P1 builds disperser

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actual OP

stray yew
jolly crane
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tbf i had no idea what khanda was

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but ye

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seems fair

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its like some people rushing aghs on some heroes

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or radi

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the brown boots magic wand spectre at minute 15

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with 3.5k gold

stone geode
stray yew
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@jolly crane

jolly crane
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checking for msg "wanna play?"

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from 40 minutes ago

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no such message

stray yew
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i dont wanna drag you down

jolly crane
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playing with you

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only gonna make me happy

stray yew
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it wouldnt coz you'd be in dota 2 game

jolly crane
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I do enjoy playing dota with you

humble yew
manic ermine
molten gorge
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That’s crazy lmao

jolly crane
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This spirit/bb game

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Kinda sick

worn drift
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What game

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Oh wait thats a recent message

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Its prib going on rn

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Im used to waking up at like 3 pm see messages like that

jolly crane
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nah it was like

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70min game or smth

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or 80

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rapiras and buyback fiesta etc.

worn drift
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Sick

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Looks like spirit thrashing them game 2

molten gorge
humble yew
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80 min game ye

humble yew
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that Ame chrono

stray yew
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this liquid vp game

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classic tug of war

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whoever is on enemy highground starts losing

worn drift
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Man these betboom dacha games are at the worst times for me lol

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I see GG got some revenge on spirit tho

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Easy 2-0

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Wait holy

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There were a lot of upsets

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Xtreme getting 2-0’d too

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pretty pog hopefully this means a nice competitive year of dota instead of GG dominates first half of the year then spirit dominates the 2 big tourny's lol

manic ermine
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Ppl were hyping up ames return but faith bian showing the real firepower

jolly crane
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i wonder how many more tournaments nisha needs to get dumpstered before people stop hyping him up as the best mid of all time

jolly crane
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listening to lacoste forcing puns into every minute of that series was also really fucking annoying

jolly crane
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this is kind of a nutty game

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oracle+dazzle

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fights last 2minutes

manic ermine
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Lot's of great small plays in these teamfights from both teams

jolly crane
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ye

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i think

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this is about the peak for liquid tho

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once the cores of XG have some more farm and levels

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the dazzle/oracle will not be nearly as safe

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the ember almost solod the oracle and he only has mageslayer+shivas atm

manic ermine
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Yeah liquid are trying to close it

jolly crane
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ye

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they have like 10 more minutes to finish teh game i feel

stray yew
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but it just underlines how different from pure 1v1 playing midlane in a game is

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not necessarily easier/more difficult just very different

jolly crane
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jeez

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those teamfights

stray yew
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they cant kill dazzle

jolly crane
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or anyone

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really

stray yew
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it sall about dazzle or oracle

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and they cant kill either

jolly crane
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ye

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i feei feel

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bit bad itemization

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on ember

stray yew
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its fine if he plays to kill oracle

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but dont think he rly did

worn drift
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Naga into dazzle cancer

stray yew
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idk how draft went

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but someone dropped the ball real hard

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they had dazzle vs naga and into ember mid

worn drift
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Ye

stray yew
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you cant play melee matchup into dazzle period

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exception being some weird picks like slark or idk what else

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abadon maybe LOLW

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buit ye thats some weird as fuck picks

worn drift
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The dazzle pick was basically gg

stray yew
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ye it was insane

worn drift
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They only win if they thrash them giga hard and win in 30

stray yew
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they banned huskar/puck to protect ember

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i guess you just dont ban puck and take the L on that

worn drift
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Rather play vs puck than dazzle

stray yew
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and ban dazzle instead idk

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huskar is mega cheese pick but they had oracel already

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so fair play to that i suppose

worn drift
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You can’t allow a mid lane pick that makes your carry unplayable and counters your mid

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And also is dazzle

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Grave is still grave

stray yew
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tbh they were planning to go naga already

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you can at least root puck in song

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with naga

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its not that insane tho i think

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he can just phase shift anyway

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i think it was still recoverable but that last fight even that ember isnt even going backline

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no idea why

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and he has the item build to go backline? he did go for nulli

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xg gonna do the 'prime eg' performance

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do decent in grp into 0-2 0-2 in brackets

worn drift
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LMAO

stray yew
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cant even make the case for x grp was easier

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its a 50/50 split i think

worn drift
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Nah nah prime eg is be regarded as top team then go against IG in finals, be up 2-0 then get 2-3’d

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Then just be a meme team after that point in time until you disband

stray yew
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there is fresh interview with ppd where he kinda hinted how they kicked him around ti6/7 time from eg and not a single player ever won anything after

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i mean interview is mostly about org stuff, not rly ingame stuff related

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but he mentions that part

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9tTw8xDHI&ab_channel=RichardLewis if you're interested, 27:30 or so is the part where he talks about getting kicked and ho they never ever achieved anything after that

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meanwhile he assembled reject kinda team like optic which currently has multiple major winners/ti winners/ti finalists lmao

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and even won a major with them i think

stray yew
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@jolly crane did you see that bottom Weirdege

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he gets double naded

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and no reaction

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at laest they did kill mid

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in my game we'd be just hitting creep camps while this is happening Classic

jolly crane
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Nah I missed it 😦

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Just like when they dive you

stray yew
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xg mega back

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off of the lag death by 33

manic ermine
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Ar back to carrying China

rugged cipher
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just that ar that won esl kuala lumpur is xg LOLW

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or is it the 2 teams with same owners and thats why they keep swapping between teams

worn drift
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Xtreme EG’d it

jolly crane
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game1 they just got outpicked on that lastpick dazzle, but game2 they shouldnt have lost imo

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just kinda lost 1 fight and then tilted out of the tournament from there

jolly crane
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ori storm

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kinda scary

stray yew
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naa it was all fy

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biggest mvp ever

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the amount of times i saw saving tosses or teamfight changing tosses towards troll so he can ult

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or even near rosh fight where he threw dk towards timber so he could just nuke him

jolly crane
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that 5man avalanche

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when rubick tossed him in

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its fun to see the OGs still carrying games like this

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but ori seems most comfortable on storm so far

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most other heroes i felt he was kinda underwhelming

stray yew
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is ar shitstomping them

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i dont think miposhka hit his ult once this game so far

jolly crane
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ye

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AR seem to have their number completely

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and faith bian brew is just a menace

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think brew is still one of the most overpowered heroes in dota

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if you ahve a really good player on it

stray yew
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id just kick lou and get ame

jolly crane
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hahaha ye

stray yew
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even tho he's playing well this series

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but previous series idk

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his slark was rly bad

jolly crane
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hes hit and miss

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always has been

stray yew
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i dont even know if its that

jolly crane
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hes noit as consistent as ame or yatoro

stray yew
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i think his hero pool is not keeping up

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coz his troll was good always

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but then his slark is always underwhelming

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so i guess just not enough comfort on some of meta heroes

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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they're utilising TA traps real well

jolly crane
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big heropool is always what made yatoro a god carry

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ye theyre playing this TA

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as a puck counter

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its kinda sick

stray yew
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og counter

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but ye shard made it even better

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i forget they have timber in this game

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but game 1 was just bad last pick

jolly crane
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i ahvent seen an aa ult in like

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a while

stray yew
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whoever played dk in their team was just cocky

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and got reality checked

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'ye sure i can play dk into lion/timber'

jolly crane
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was larl last game

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on dk

stray yew
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ye cocky pick

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into probably 2 hardest counters there are

jolly crane
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this rubick is so farmed

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well

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its not

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"this rubick"

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its fy

stray yew
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he got lucky on shard too

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i think

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thats why

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so free +1400

jolly crane
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ye

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idk i just lve watching

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good brews

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yatoro

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cant do shit

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that troll

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got kited hard

stray yew
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ye typical troll gameplay

jolly crane
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AR throwing

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ez comeback

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not sure what that buyback is

stray yew
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ye idk why they try fighting with no troll/no panda ult

jolly crane
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wonder what you go here as TA

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buriza ig

stray yew
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brooch

jolly crane
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could almost get hex in this game

stray yew
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soontm

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they have some heavy armour targets

jolly crane
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ye

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but could see

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hex on TA here even

stray yew
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but ye could just go sth like

jolly crane
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just need to enable troll

stray yew
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upgraded orchid

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kinda most meta item in the game

jolly crane
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or at least abyssal or smth

stray yew
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wtf did collapse do

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just randomly walk in near 3 heroes

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what can happen

jolly crane
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oris target selection in these fights is really damn good

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he recognized after last fight

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tiny is the problem

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so now he just chased down the tiny

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so he cant disrupt their fight

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didnt kill him but didnt have to

stray yew
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ye tiny is just broken (again again again)

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(50 patches in a row)

jolly crane
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yep

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i still dont understand

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why that hero gets 20 armor for free

stray yew
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ye

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thats whats happpening with shards

jolly crane
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but was good intiiation

stray yew
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look at x hero and he has idk mobility issues

jolly crane
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AR was behind the troll but he just evaporated

stray yew
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and they just put it in shard

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how about

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some heroes just should be weak for x part of the game

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and let it be

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
jolly crane
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we used to like

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have heroes double down on what theyre good at

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and keep their weaknesses

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instead weve kinda moved away from that balancing wise

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and lots of heroes have hteir weaknesses fixed

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through aghs shard or scepter

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and i dont really think thats a good idea

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collapse doesnt have a game

stray yew
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i think ar will just lose

jolly crane
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but i trust

stray yew
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coz their panda isnt scaling whatsoever

jolly crane
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in yatoro morph

stray yew
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he needed midas or radi on panda

jolly crane
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ye

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the morph will eat the brewlings

stray yew
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he's just gonna fall behind

jolly crane
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once he hits 25

stray yew
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its insane how 12k nw panda is doing 100 times more than 17k timber tho

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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surely if you put ammar in his seat

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he'd own the game lmao

jolly crane
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its why i think brew is op hero

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cuz he also farms well

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doesnt need items to have impact

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good game tho

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lots of respect given in the plays they make

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think fy got str morph now

stray yew
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ar playing way too slow idk

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spirit already got great position near rosh

jolly crane
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ye theyre kinda

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giving ab it too much respect atm

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with that shivas pickup

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i think they wanna finish their double hex first

stray yew
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i swear they dont have a pos 5 in this game

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0 ice blasts connecting entire game

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but ye buyback and no split so they will just lose rosh now

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imagine if he had +1 item with midas

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if he had refresher now

jolly crane
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spirit usually has superior vision but theyre struggling a bit this game cuz of TA traps

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mexican standoff

stray yew
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shivas is a stupid item too now

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thats one of items thats getting a nerf should a patch happen

jolly crane
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did he just

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try to avatoss

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a 3.5k hp rubick?

stray yew
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there is nothing more satisfying

jolly crane
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this puck is just

stray yew
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than hitting a net when you play troll

jolly crane
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so miserable

stray yew
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i think they need gem on puck

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if he doesnt have one

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ok he does

jolly crane
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he did

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but its still

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the silences are so fucking nasty

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ori really showing up for them this tourney i feel. i never really thought of him as like a toptier mid, especially in china

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when theres players like nts/maybe

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iceblast complete whiff again

stray yew
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he hit troll i think

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but he just died

stone geode
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havent watched any dotka in a long time

jolly crane
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troll was already dead

stray yew
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to kh anda

jolly crane
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and had aegis

stray yew
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tbh it would b close

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i think its fair play

jolly crane
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couldve hit the iceblast when he respawns

stray yew
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coz he could just press ult

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if he doesnt do it

jolly crane
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ye ig

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think AR just too far ahead with that aegis

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they needed to get a pick in that rosh fight but

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they dont have the heroes

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cuz puck has no game

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and that timber isnt doing anything to initiate a fight

stray yew
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wont they just get panda split now

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and win next fight

jolly crane
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ye

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yatoro just cant connect to any hero in this fight

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you play into

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3.5k hp rubick, ta, brewlings and troll

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kinda hard to get a pick there

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but ye just felt both games larl couldnt play dota

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again ta shard just

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too powerful

stone geode
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gege

stray yew
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its joever

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i mean game 1 its his fault

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he picked into 2 hard counters

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its like that bike meme

jolly crane
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dude

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yatoro just

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str shifted

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that blink hex

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from smoke

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actually insane

stray yew
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fy/faith bian played so insane both games

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just remake old lgd at this point Ez

jolly crane
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hahaha ye

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get somnus in for mid

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ame as pos1

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definitely felt like that brew basically existed

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just to carry the early and midgame

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with that greedy ass ta+troll draft

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so he did his job on brew i feel

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if they dont have a brew, i think puck/morph/timber just run over their cores in minutes 15-30

manic ermine
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Spirit not bringing their A game this tournament for sure

jolly crane
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no magerslayer for iether team

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surprised

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usually every hero seems to be getting one

manic ermine
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It is nice to see that top teams are different ones this time (besides liquid)

humble yew
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damn I didnt see the end

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had a phone call mid game

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whats the result

jolly crane
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2-0 AR

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so spirit out

humble yew
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aye

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fy treated us with a pixel perfect Tiny into his godlike Rubick

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good day

jolly crane
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it was just

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support diff imo

humble yew
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a recital

jolly crane
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that aa+tiny just didnt do much

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tiny did enough but like

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once the rubick got str morph stolen once

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the tiny had no target anymore

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cuz techies was just standing in fog

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and TA shard just completely messed with larls game to the point he needed to go blink into bkb

humble yew
stray yew
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@jolly crane i fear no man

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but this

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scares me

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🍄

jolly crane
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Ye

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Mushroom head prophet players

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Are the worst

stray yew
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falcons in some good form

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but my take is their picking is kinda cheesy coz they basically have 2x ammars

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and people havent picked up on it yet as much?

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im not sure how i feel about it

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their midlaner is basically ammar 2.0

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same behavior, also some stupid huskar heropool lmao

stray yew
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@jolly craneare you watching?

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this sven pick looks horrible to say the least

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why would they wanna play sven into furion

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legit furion counters your hero alone i feel like

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sven is a hero that is very item slots starved so he gets one sprout and he's done in a teamfight

jolly crane
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sven just plays aghs 2nd item these days

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and then sprout is w/e

stray yew
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i guess ye

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but fuck me

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idk why sprout isnt reworkded at this point

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toxic concept

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early game basically everyon needs to have quelling

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biggest problem is his w is so overtunedf

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he gets free damage/armour when he uses it

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because having global presence with this big of a map isnt enough i guess

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think ill play furion today actually

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send it

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my last furion game legit 10 years ago

jolly crane
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haha

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ye prophet is dumb

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even just at lv1

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if you dont go sprout for some reason

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you just use teleport

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and have 80 dmg

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at lv1

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with a very low BAT

stray yew
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man if they patched dota slightly more often

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would be goated

jolly crane
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why do they go

stray yew
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its just so obnoxious sometimes

jolly crane
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for a hero kill

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instead of just getting the ancients

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with 3 hits

stray yew
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some stuff is so opressive for so long

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and doesnt get patched

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for ages

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like mage slayer/doom/furion now are extremely opressive

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or meepo

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and this shit doesnt get patched for months

jolly crane
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but ye

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prophet is just stupid

stray yew
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i mean doom is even more stupid prolly

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but its just always 1st banned

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noone wants to play into it ever

jolly crane
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dunno how you can even fix doom at this point

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game is so reliant on teamfighting

stray yew
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i mean his ult

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does too much damage

jolly crane
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that doom allowing you to play 4v5

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is just

stray yew
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its pure too

jolly crane
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too imbalanced

stray yew
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it shouldnt do any damage

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at all

jolly crane
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either that or

stray yew
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like it blocks your regen

jolly crane
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reduce duration significantly idk

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but you should be able to take out a hero

stray yew
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and silences you for idk

jolly crane
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for 30 seconds

stray yew
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15 seconds?

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the only hero thats fine vs it is medusa maybe

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coz stick actually helps you

jolly crane
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but ye idk

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rough game

stray yew
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doom/alchem are always problematic

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furion too

jolly crane
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if they wouldve just stolen the ancient stack

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AR wouldve been fine

stray yew
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because they just get more gold than other heroes on the map

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because of how they work

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and its just unfair right

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always very problematic heroes

jolly crane
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ye

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ive always hated alch

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and arc warden

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cuz they force you to play a different game

stray yew
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arc has some fucked up mechanic now

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where he has different spell depending on what team you're in

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his ghosts explode faster if you're dire or sth like that

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and idk what he does in radiant

jolly crane
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the fuck

stray yew
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maybe his bubble is different

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ye im not memeing

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its actually a thing

jolly crane
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lmao okay

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but ye idk

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this game for AR

stray yew
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that some of his spells work a little bit different depending which side you're in

jolly crane
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is just outdraft imo

stray yew
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i mean they have gold on sven

jolly crane
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they have prophet/alch/venge

stray yew
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but its a sven

jolly crane
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which can just omega stack

stray yew
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imagine if its a fed slark

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you feel a lot better

jolly crane
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lou cant play slark

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so its w/e

stray yew
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ye i guess

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but as general

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you'd rather have farmed slark than sven

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coz its a sven

jolly crane
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was a bit unfortunate

stray yew
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his bkb ends and its just over

jolly crane
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theri first botlane fight

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if that goes marginally different

stray yew
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ye they lived on 0

jolly crane
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the entire game is different

stray yew
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and lvl 2

jolly crane
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its like that one TI game

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where 33 gets chainlightning on doom

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with 4 mangos

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at lv1

stray yew
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holy

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that lion stun

jolly crane
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and that just wins the lane

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based

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blink reveal into double kill is

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big value

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i still think

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stacking is too strong

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being able to double-stack in most parts of the jungle is just stupid imo

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not quite sure

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how AR is winning these fights

stray yew
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idk either

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they kite sven so hard

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they rly need hexes

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or orchids

jolly crane
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well tbf

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AR just has waaaay better supports

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for these teamfights

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prophet just kinda weak

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and venge doesnt do much either

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the minus armor kinda doesnt do anything vs sven

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and then you just have swap

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vs SD+lion

stray yew
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i dont understand whats going on

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this makes no sense

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its hard playing wr into sd i guess

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1 more teamfight

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if ar doesnt win next teamfight its joever

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sven will just fall off

jolly crane
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ye the WR is getting too big i feel

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but was just disjointed fight

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and ori had aegis but didnt commit

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pussied out instead and i think that lost them the fight

stray yew
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the moment wr is lvl 25 its mega over

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he cant die on wr

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impossible

jolly crane
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well

stray yew
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maybe if he misclicks talent

jolly crane
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instead of dispelling the WR

stray yew
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he also has fking aghs for free from alch

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its so annoying

jolly crane
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you just prison

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my biggest worry is that the cent and void dont really do anything

stray yew
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void eventually will do damage

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but ye puck is 100 times better

jolly crane
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ye

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that shackle just

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ruined the fight

stray yew
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its just over

jolly crane
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idk why lou doesnt just jump in the backline

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takes out the prophet or venge

stray yew
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sven is trash

jolly crane
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instead he hits into the wr and alch

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but ye that sprout

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just fucked him hard

stray yew
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its night and he doesnt see them

jolly crane
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ye

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idk why they even took the fight there

stray yew
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imagine if he is slark

jolly crane
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ye

stray yew
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and he can just slowly creep around

jolly crane
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night vision too strong

stray yew
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and give vision to cent/vs

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so they can jump backline

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instead of this

jolly crane
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that was kinda

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sick play from micke

stray yew
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doesnt preview for some reason

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its like i played pub yday where i had morph/arc/dk

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you feel so comfy playing game like taht, can just afk farm and you win by default

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was same this game for liquid

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you just win by default with every minute that goes by

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thats avg sven lineup for you

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the lvl of execution you gotta pull off

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is just incomparable to the enemy team

thorny fiber
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first real tournament where liquid has 33?

jolly crane
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this liquid draft looks obnoxious as fuck to play into

stray yew
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@jolly crane

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love marci wisp in pubs

jolly crane
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ye

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and then

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enigma+dp on top

stray yew
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ye enigma is still stupid

jolly crane
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that krobelus will be unkillable in midgame

stray yew
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unless you have some gyro type hero ye

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to play into it

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love denying creeps from 50% to 0 in one shot

jolly crane
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ye

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was smart lane swap imo

stray yew
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tbf gyro is insanely good pick this game

jolly crane
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ye

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gyro the only hero that can pressure this dog hero

stray yew
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gyro is one of few carries that can play into the big teamfight ult bs

jolly crane
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fucking eidolons

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killing the SD

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lmao

stray yew
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ye they do obnoxious damage idk

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also you know whats funny

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the spawn eidolons cost % current health

jolly crane
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idk why these fuckers

stray yew
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so if you are low its basically free

jolly crane
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give basically no gold

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or any minions for that matter

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at this point

stray yew
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they give like 16 gold

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thats not TOO BAD imo

jolly crane
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but theyre too tanky

stray yew
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but they are hard to kill

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ye

jolly crane
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to be killed by 1 set of spells now

stray yew
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it takes 3 hits

jolly crane
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so ye idk

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treants are still

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the fucking worse

stray yew
#

also that hero buys insta vlads

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so they are justunkillable once that happens

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lmao malrine

#

he's legit cloned ammar

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wtf is malrine doing

#

legit his last 2 deaths

#

he feeds in random place ok sure only he dies

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and now he baits 2 of his teammates into shit position

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go tip and allchat more m8

jolly crane
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ye idk why he keeps doing that

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its actually annoying at this point

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his fucking ")" after every kill he makes

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then feeds for 5 minutes

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potm shard still seems absolutely awful

stray yew
#

ye

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im in for all chatting

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but this guy is just an idiot

#

does it 5 times per game

jolly crane
#

ye

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and hes the only one doing it

#

its not like OG where everybody was spamming voicelines

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and i found that obnoxious as well

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but hes just doing the same shit all the time

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hitting the single ) after a few kills

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not even big plays or anything

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not impressed by boxis io so far

stray yew
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1st time ever i see marci/wisp having 0 impact

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all on 33 hitting some big hole

stray yew
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previous lan they played they had saberlight standin

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jesus that relo

jolly crane
#

idk

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why do you pick io

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when you dont relocate

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like, ever

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he had like

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30seconds

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to relocate that DP

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to safety

stray yew
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im pretty sure

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dp with 6 items + agh blessing + eaten moonshard does less than dk with lvl 18 and mage slayer/aghs/manta

#

actual no 🧢

jolly crane
#

ye

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idk

stray yew
#

especially this game

jolly crane
#

i dont like this micke build

stray yew
#

coz they have 0 illusion counters

jolly crane
#

i think the armlet is completely wasted item

stray yew
#

nah armlet is insane

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they just played it wrong

jolly crane
#

40min still no basher/abyss

stray yew
#

they should be menace on the map

jolly crane
#

ye

stray yew
#

force enemy team to 5 man

jolly crane
#

but they have no lockdown either

stray yew
#

and we saw 1 or 2 relos entire game

jolly crane
#

but ye i think this io is just

#

compeltely misplayed

#

no relocate save even on really obvious positions

#

what was that relocate

#

LMAO

#

youre there with 5 people

#

all stacked

#

enemy afraid to go into you

humble yew
#

looks like me playing wisp

jolly crane
#

and you relocate into... what, a potm? lmao

humble yew
jolly crane
#

she just leaps away

#

DK flies over the trees

#

whiel the mars arenas your 2 playmakers

stray yew
#

ye maybe he shouldve gone orchid

#

to catch people

#

or sth

jolly crane
#

i mean even basher

#

is enough

stray yew
#

but ye its joever anyway

jolly crane
#

io nonexistant this game

stray yew
#

i hope teams start banning dk

#

or picking lion/timber

#

coz that hero is unplayable otherwise

stray yew
#

they inta banned dk now

jolly crane
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funny cuz DK used to be liquid firstpick

#

every game

#

doom and chen 100% banrate this tourney? kekdog

rugged cipher
#

why do blitz feel like bulba 2.0

jolly crane
#

cuz he always was

stray yew
#

i think blitz does even less than bulba

jolly crane
#

not exactly news that blitz has been bingchilling for years

stray yew
#

hge just has better players

jolly crane
#

and they had aui for a long time

rugged cipher
#

feel like a cheerleader that is there cus he is friends with the core

stray yew
jolly crane
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thats exactly who he is, ye