DotA

[worn drift]

clearly disappointed with himself

so how can you tell me the team doesnt wanna win

[jolly crane]

i mean he should be ngl

obviosuly they wanna win, its more about them not being very loud about it publicly ig?

[worn drift]

where is his "i did my best :D"

[jolly crane]

they all strike me as very reserved and relaxed players

if you say "i did my best" after goign 1-10 on pos3

then you really dont wanna win lmao

[worn drift]

idk

if they are really how you say

they dont deserve to win anything

[stray yew]

and they didnt

[worn drift]

yep

[jolly crane]

they didnt

[stray yew]

so what are we talking about

[jolly crane]

but they made

top finishes every event

[worn drift]

i mean ever

[stray yew]

they made more finals than gg

[jolly crane]

and were the first team to qualify for TI

as a result

[stray yew]

but won less

[worn drift]

if they win a top 1 at tourny, means the competition is ass

if seli is correct

[jolly crane]

it kinda is?

[worn drift]

i dont think "im just coming into the office for work" teams should win

[stray yew]

i just have issue with blitz

i dont know how the players are

i just get this vibe from blitz

[jolly crane]

TI is like the only event where you actually have all teams present

[stray yew]

thats why id cut him

[jolly crane]

people hype up the SR #2 placement at dreamleague

but it was missing like

[worn drift]

well seli is claiming they are probably legit just shopify except a little better

[jolly crane]

half the teams

not a little bit. a lot.

but they dont have this I MUST WIN OR I SUCK attitude anymore

[stray yew]

if what seli says is true its just sad

because its similar to AR

[worn drift]

yes thats what im saying lol

[stray yew]

in some ways

they could be so much better

with idk better coach

better mental coach

[jolly crane]

if youve been at the top for such a long time

[stray yew]

better something extra

[jolly crane]

you no longer have anything to prove anymore

thats just how it goes

and for many players

that allows them to truly reach their potential

but for some that means they lose that drive that got them there

[stone geode]

AR looked okay vs lgd but then just got ran over

[undone dagger]

The Chinese contingent in the arena is very loud

[stone geode]

I cheer for BB

[jolly crane]

fy played the wrong heroes imo

esp in game 1

he shouldve played the clock

but their laning is very strong

[undone dagger]

I'm rooting for BB for their Sonics jerseys of questionable legality

[stone geode]

you mean because of the seattle tower?

[stray yew]

bro

[jolly crane]

hahaha

[stray yew]

why you doing them like that

[jolly crane]

ye

[worn drift]

LOL

[undone dagger]

Nah, it's even more than that

[worn drift]

oh lmao

i didnt even notice that

thats insane wtf LOL

[jolly crane]

arent those

TI-specific jerseys tho

[undone dagger]

I assume so

But they are great

Just like sunsfan making a Sonics joke yesterday

[stone geode]

average pings

AI generated stats

[undone dagger]

Somnus seems like the Chinese fan favorite

[jolly crane]

ye

http://puu.sh/JTfJl/6594561990.png

[stray yew]

ye for sure

[stone geode]

I dont get how people sit knee up like that

[jolly crane]

the man has missed a TI win so many times

[stray yew]

somnus could be best player to ever touch the game

if he didnt retire 5 times

very sad

[jolly crane]

idk

last year was just

beyond tragic

[stray yew]

i mean they're top 6

and he barely played competitive this season

and ye they would be better team

if they played entire season together

no doubt about that

[jolly crane]

and hes styling on people in mid like always

[stray yew]

ye the only way to put somnus down

is if he takes himself away from the game

[stone geode]

nts was more than equal to him though

[worn drift]

BB revenge game

[jolly crane]

in midgame, yeah

but he got dumpstered by the mid snap

[worn drift]

azure were the ones that enforced the penalty on BB or they said they wouldnt play

hype game

[jolly crane]

ye

the funniest part about

lgd vs AR yday

was that spiritbreaker went through both games

uncontested

[undone dagger]

Yup, CN view of the meta is very different

[jolly crane]

which is hilarious considering it was the go-to hero for xiao8 when he had to sub in

they could straightup go

aa+ck here

which is even nastier than it used to be

[plush pivot]

the most beloved hero in dota?

[stone geode]

tusk, the nemesis of bb

who gets kicked into fountain this time

[plush pivot]

bara open somehow

[worn drift]

give pure the cow

wow

[undone dagger]

AR are banning mids?

[worn drift]

they are assuming kunkka is 3

[undone dagger]

Yeah

Seems very dangerous

[worn drift]

bcuz necrophos matches well into him

the necrophos pick here is giga

think lina is great here

[stone geode]

isnt necro counter to ta

[worn drift]

shes good against him in lane i think

[stone geode]

nice deflection about bali

[stray yew]

thats weird draft

from both sides

[undone dagger]

What'd he say, couldn't hear shit over the "Let's go China" chants

[stray yew]

naix/ta

[jolly crane]

chinese fans too loud to understand caster/interviews?

[undone dagger]

As I've said sound balance in the arena sucks

[stone geode]

he said they met them in the group stage here at TI but if hes talking about bali then they just want to beat them just like any other team

[plush pivot]

can confirm translation was correct and full

[stone geode]

the translator didnt mention the bali part but thats what the coach said

[plush pivot]

he did mention last game being group stage not bali

maybe word "bali" was not explicitly said

[stone geode]

I mean yeah, he said it but not translated word for word

[plush pivot]

since when Grizzled knows Russian

[stone geode]

I understand some

especially when they speak nice and slow

I can read too but it takes a bit because im not used to it

you know how you read the whole words I usually have to read by letter

[jolly crane]

mid tower gone before minute 7

this pugna has 100gpm

[stone geode]

I dont see the chinese draft winning

but im not too familiar with chinese teams

and I want bb to win

[plush pivot]

I suppose every AR kill @undone dagger permanently loses some of his hearing

[undone dagger]

Hahaha it got very loud

[plush pivot]

BB lost 4 towers already

[stone geode]

bb losing many towers

[plush pivot]

Given equal money they are farming slightly better but it’s so much space opened up for AR

[worn drift]

Why is gpk afk in trees giga scared

[stray yew]

tusk king

[worn drift]

God kunkka shard is just imba

This hg

[jolly crane]

psure

whoever loses this game

will quickly lose g2 as well

[stone geode]

good game by AR so far

they wont lose

nice

good jinx

[worn drift]

Nah

They can’t win at this point probably

[stone geode]

not felt the ck doing much

they dont have towers

[stray yew]

lmao wtf is goin on

no shot necro dies

??

[plush pivot]

pugna dying by blades through his naix I think lol

that was intersting positioning

[jolly crane]

this necro

[stray yew]

HE LIVES

[jolly crane]

absolutely ridiculous

[stray yew]

bro i swear

if he had butterfly

ac

bkb

instead of 2nd hot

one of these

this game is 10 times easier ye

ok maybe butterfly cope af

but ye ac/bkb/skadi

2nd hot is so int

[stone geode]

necro was insane this game

[plush pivot]

meat wins games

[worn drift]

Bb lose 2-0 now

Cause of tilt factor

[jolly crane]

2deaths entire game as necro

[stone geode]

fy tusk goated as well

[jolly crane]

ye

tusk king

[plush pivot]

you are king

[jolly crane]

@undone dagger whats was the atmosphere like during that last fight? 😄

[undone dagger]

Chaos

Just lots of gutteral "oh oh, aww, oh, oh" for like a straight minute

Had to step out for lunch because this might go till midnight

[stone geode]

if BB wins I might have to stay up

but im not that hopeful

[undone dagger]

Hahaha well I guess the other way to put it, if you go to bed now I might still be here when you wake up

[stone geode]

last week when I started work on monday the last game of VP vs entity was still going

[undone dagger]

Yeah, and I could see tonight going later, especially with void

Also if AR wins here the arena is going to be so hype for the last two series

[jolly crane]

do we get to see

a somnus OD?

[stone geode]

ok I have no faith in this bb draft

ck looks out of place

doesnt play with chrono

dk also long cd hero

[jolly crane]

somnus puck

[undone dagger]

Yeah this BB draft looks bad

[jolly crane]

is thgis the first dk this ti?

[worn drift]

Think so

[jolly crane]

ye

[plush pivot]

I believe all heroes were picked before final weekend

[stone geode]

AR going to smash this

[plush pivot]

or maybe picked/banned

[jolly crane]

http://puu.sh/JTg8i/deaf352250.jpg

[stone geode]

(im not jinxing on purpose)

[jolly crane]

dunno how accurate that is from liquidpedia

http://puu.sh/JTg8l/4a99294a62.jpg

[plush pivot]

hm, okay

[stone geode]

AM

[jolly crane]

no timber is

so surprising to me

[plush pivot]

Slardar 😦

I like that hero

LD, WR, Slardar

[jolly crane]

wow

i cant even remember the last time somnus died 1v1 mid

[stray yew]

ofc you cant

you're old

[plush pivot]

I can, 15 seconds ago

[stray yew]

[plush pivot]

[jolly crane]

it just doesnt happen that often okay

[worn drift]

That solo kill is big

For moral sake

[jolly crane]

ye

[stone geode]

its still bad draft imo

[jolly crane]

first blood too

[plush pivot]

who is doing damage in chrono tho? only phoenix it seems

[worn drift]

Its tri core with a lot of cc and supps that scale well into late

[jolly crane]

willow

[stone geode]

you chrono ck and feed

[jolly crane]

sewsssssssssss0ßsdx9eya9

[worn drift]

Nice cat

[stone geode]

same

[plush pivot]

hello Nova

[jolly crane]

[stone geode]

I dont remember a decent void game this TI

[plush pivot]

when was wr picked this TI tho?

[worn drift]

Windranger?

Talon

[plush pivot]

yes

[jolly crane]

4times

3-1

think we saw some offlane WR

[worn drift]

Talon picked it 1 game mid iirc

[plush pivot]

windrunner

I still call it that

[jolly crane]

everyone does

[stone geode]

blizzard copyright xdd

[plush pivot]

wisp >>>>> io

sue me Bobby

oh wait

[jolly crane]

fy kinda

missing a bunch of shots

[stone geode]

bring back skeleton king

he even has skeletons now

[jolly crane]

wow

gpk god

[worn drift]

Ok

[plush pivot]

I asked about DK btw

[worn drift]

They didnt tilt

[plush pivot]

just couple hours ago

me am smort

[stray yew]

ar tilted

coz they won previous game

[worn drift]

Gpk going sicko mode

2 solo kills

Monster

[stone geode]

void not having a good time though

[jolly crane]

ye

the problem i think

is that the puck doesnt really have anybody to gank with

to come back into the game

its not like a sky or grim

that you can gank with

you can gank with the muerta ig

[stone geode]

spirit BB finals lets go

[jolly crane]

using the shot to break coil

[plush pivot]

that would mean at least one new double TI champion

would be pog

[jolly crane]

this aint looking too hot

dk 6k nw minute 10

[stray yew]

ye but its dk

who cares

is it still octarine aghs build?

[plush pivot]

towers care I think

[worn drift]

Isnt aghs dk still strong

[stray yew]

idk

[worn drift]

That would mean bb beats lgd or spirit in lb

After beating gg as well

[stray yew]

i think both of these teams would lose to liquid and gg

ar/bb

[jolly crane]

i believe in the fy muerta

[plush pivot]

gg is shit according to you tho, easy to win

[worn drift]

Or ig specifically lgd

Gg is shit

Bb is also shit tho

[jolly crane]

its dk

everythings shit

except

[worn drift]

Every team at this tourny except lgd and spirit are shit

[jolly crane]

1 person

[worn drift]

Im not even flaming the ppl, its their strategy and teamplay thats bad

Bb all 5 individuals are hyper skilled

But they do stupid shit as a team

[stone geode]

void impact

[jolly crane]

psure they wouldve killed just as many people

without the chrono

[stone geode]

2 autoattacks for like 70 damage combined

[worn drift]

This is just an insurance policy void

[stone geode]

listen up

its 80min game

save carry

into chrone

[jolly crane]

this void doesnt have to do anything

[stone geode]

cant lose

[jolly crane]

for the next 20 minutes

[plush pivot]

wow x3

[jolly crane]

fairly fast atos on fy

ye fy gotta stop missing deadshots

[stone geode]

good game by bb so far

[worn drift]

Ye

[wraith scroll]

AR is getting smoked this round, oof.

[worn drift]

Giving pure a character he can take the game over on

I think is v important

He needs to be able to shit on his lane and then take the game over

[stone geode]

93% gaben

seems a bit much

[stray yew]

its joever

(unless)

[jolly crane]

if this was GG it would be

[plush pivot]

I guess BB don't even have to capitilize on their tempo

[jolly crane]

but its a cis team

with an early laning lead

so anything can happen still

[stone geode]

its not like AR win this late

[jolly crane]

not late

but ultra late

id give it to AR again

[stone geode]

willow kills everyone in chrono

[jolly crane]

yeah if you hit a 5man chrono

then she can kill everyone

[stray yew]

the rly bad part is they're mega behind on xp

coz they have 3x midas

so gold lead means nothing

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

but im fairly sure they're mega behind on xp

[jolly crane]

but i mean

all it takes is 1 teamfight

[stray yew]

but ye if ar makes it a game

[jolly crane]

i just dont see how BB will lose a teamfight

[stray yew]

kudos to them

[jolly crane]

with void/ck/phoenix

[stray yew]

i dont see it

[plush pivot]

grief with chrono

[jolly crane]

but ig

[plush pivot]

that would be one way

[jolly crane]

never count out nightfall

to throw the game

[stray yew]

i dont think nightfall played bad on stage this tournament tbh

in 'playoffs'

[jolly crane]

nah but

its a known thing ye

[stray yew]

seems like he istn struggling anymore

ye

he was mega choker

[jolly crane]

pure and nightfall both

[stray yew]

but maybe overcame

[jolly crane]

was waiting for pure

to kill his support again

on tormentor

[plush pivot]

Seli just hates on CIS players

[jolly crane]

nah

[plush pivot]

[jolly crane]

but ive watched dota for 15+ years

[stone geode]

puck getting soload by willow

[jolly crane]

kinda insane how taht one mid kill

affected the entire game

[plush pivot]

why are they not pushing towers?

[stray yew]

dont think bb cares

[plush pivot]

sure they have midas x3

[jolly crane]

they have 4 midas

[stray yew]

they're just waiting for their void to be rly strong

lvl 20 + one or two more items

[jolly crane]

theyre choking out the map

[plush pivot]

and just like that they kill t2 with dk aghs)

[stone geode]

midas asmr

need void for what

[plush pivot]

To soak spells

[stone geode]

call it

[plush pivot]

Think me going sleepo after this map

[stone geode]

same

[plush pivot]

Too many games left to endure

[jolly crane]

surprised theyre letting this continue

instead of tapping out

[stray yew]

can their coach come in and throw the towel

[stone geode]

xd

[stray yew]

or something

ok they tapped out

thank fuck

[jolly crane]

wonder how different game wouldve been

if not for the mid demolition

but holy fuck gpk was smurfing on somnus

on a dk no less

[worn drift]

You didn’t see him game 1 walk off hg and get 100->0’d

Which resulted in top racks dying

[stray yew]

its big difference him making a mistake and him doing shit everything in the game

i remember his pa elimination game

[worn drift]

Isn’t making a crucial mistake like that choking

[stray yew]

in some tournament

[stone geode]

pray for bb victory in sleep

[jolly crane]

fy

[stray yew]

i think it would be choking if he just run it down right after and just kept on making mistakes on mistake which would cost them losing the game but dont think that was the case

and he has tendency to play rly bad in high pressure games

which he doesnt so far even tho they were down in LB game vs talon and some other HOT situations

[worn drift]

I want bb to win and see some all chatting

[stray yew]

all chatting?

vs ar?

[worn drift]

Ye

Ar was the team that enforced the penalty on bb

After pure stream incident

They said either pure doesnt play vs us or we dont play

[stray yew]

do they even have beef about it

or they dont care

[jolly crane]

seriously doubt they do

[worn drift]

Almost certainly

[jolly crane]

but fans love to make drama

where theres none

[worn drift]

Toronto typed some stuff up in g1 of that major

[jolly crane]

yeah back then

when it was fresh

no one cares now

[stray yew]

lol i remember the memes with it

and he said sth like

[worn drift]

You know bb has some of the most emotional players in t1 dota period right

[stray yew]

'i respected you but not anymore'

or osme shit like that

and they put some ti8 truesight stuff

'WHAT IS HE SAYING? RESPECT I KNOW RESPECT'

[worn drift]

Thinking ppl like gpk and toronto will forgive and forget

Idk about that seli

Gpk is a known insane human in pubs

[stray yew]

i bet ccnc is even worse in pubs

dont see him all chatting ever or behaving in actual games

i remember some reddit topic about gpk

coz he paypaled some russian guy from his team 20 bucks to abandon the game

coz he cba'd playing it

[worn drift]

Yep

[stray yew]

morph

but why

that hero is bad

lc is at least pure iconic

signature pick

id argue pure when he played 1 has better morph than nightfall

[jolly crane]

maybe gpk morph?=

[stray yew]

oh no

not this

gpk elimination games on morph

[jolly crane]

hahaha

[stray yew]

thjats even worse than nightfall on lan

when he chokes

[worn drift]

Is it actually morph mid

Oh ok

[jolly crane]

nah

but

[worn drift]

I thiught i was behind

[jolly crane]

this is a weird invoker game

[stray yew]

ye i dont see this invoker rly

but gpk played it rly well

so comfort i guess

coz dont think its that great?

[jolly crane]

nah

[stray yew]

it loses to kunkka doesnt it?

[jolly crane]

it doesnt do much

against brew or kunkka

[stray yew]

ye

[worn drift]

Its alacrity i think lol

[stray yew]

but comfort pick i suppose

[jolly crane]

alacrity on morph

[stray yew]

alacrity on ench

or muerta

[worn drift]

Attack speed is attack speed

[jolly crane]

theres DRs on it tho

and morph already has loads of attackspeed

[stray yew]

i dont believe in nightfall morph

[jolly crane]

same

[stray yew]

or in morph in general

[jolly crane]

i believe on somnus kunkka

and chalice brew was solid so far as well

i think brew is

storngest hero this tournament

[worn drift]

Negative

[stray yew]

pure lc is insane tho

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

its his signature

[jolly crane]

but i dont see the lc that much either

[stray yew]

one of his best heroes

ever

coz its only him

[jolly crane]

into penix/kunkka

[stray yew]

he even played pos 1 lc

[jolly crane]

getting duels might be hard

in this game

[stray yew]

when h was playing 1 in entity/early bb

[jolly crane]

but if he gets duels on the brew

thatd be massive

[stray yew]

maybe i dont get something

but why brews never go aeon

its so good on brew

[jolly crane]

kinda dont have to

[stray yew]

you always can get split off

[jolly crane]

all the brews ive seen so far

didnt struggle getting split off

[stray yew]

clock not too popular pick either i tihnk

[jolly crane]

ive seen fy clock before and it was

insane

fucker didnt even go force

[stray yew]

both of these supports

[jolly crane]

went straight

aghs AC

[stray yew]

are insane fy picks

[jolly crane]

oh ye hes playing phoenixu again

tianming is playing the clock as 5 again

meh

i think fy is the better clock

then again

fy is an insane phoenix

im not feeling the luna

somehow

[stray yew]

they didnt rly have a pick

not many carries can play into LC

everything was banned rly

[worn drift]

Pure will take this game into his hands

[jolly crane]

ye

[worn drift]

I believe

[stray yew]

mk banned, also they didnt wanna pick mk im pretty sure

ck banned

dont know what else lc even loses to

[jolly crane]

biggest issue early on i think

will be getting duel kills

you dont really have supports that work well with duel

muerta isnt terrible but like

[worn drift]

Ah

Thats why they picked invoker probably

Sunstrike lol

On lc duels

[stray yew]

no shot

[jolly crane]

doubt he goes exort

[stray yew]

he goes exort

thats grief

[jolly crane]

lv1 sunstrike still does decent damage

but its more

that they needed a vessel carry

[stray yew]

gpk getting kinda destroyed id say

[jolly crane]

ye

[worn drift]

Kunkka favored lane

[stray yew]

he picked into it

idk

[worn drift]

Yea im just saying

Its kunkka favored

[jolly crane]

think they knew it was gonna happen

but felt strongly towards it anyway

[worn drift]

Thats why hes getting destroyed

[stray yew]

but maybe its just for overall game

[jolly crane]

what hero is there even

that wins vs kunkka

[worn drift]

Necrophos is good

[stray yew]

mk

but then you play mk

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

they couldve sent morph mid

isnt that bad i think

[worn drift]

Its that too greedy

[stray yew]

nah i mean you dont play some tb type from safelane then

you play some razor type shit

[jolly crane]

ench

[stray yew]

or some other brawler/fighter type stuff

[worn drift]

Ye but then nightfall has to play a style he isnt used to

Sounds bad

[stray yew]

he actually did play mk

and played it quite well

in whatever series they had yday

whoever they beat yday

vp

wasnt it

they couldve done some demonic stuff with lane swapping

which never happens

[jolly crane]

ye but i think

theyre already playing offmeta stuff pmuch

doing laneswaps in elimination game

is tough

[stray yew]

ye but in general lane swapping doesnt happen

on side lanes i get it

coz portals

i remember patches where people would run around for 5 minutes

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

like timber runs after dk

[jolly crane]

old trilane meta

[stray yew]

coz he wants to have 1v1

and dk just runs away from him

and they arent even laning

[jolly crane]

chalice needs to

start playing like a pos3

pure wants the duel

kind of a big rotation tho

4people mid

but its gotten gpk the 6 and 10min runes

not using ship

gold is even but xp wise

fy and chalice have nothing

[worn drift]

wait what even happened

i stop watching for few mins

and invoker higher nw than kk

[jolly crane]

enchantress happened

[worn drift]

[jolly crane]

i mean

[worn drift]

this guys been sending tips out left and right

[jolly crane]

he didnt even morph

the chinese teams in general

[stray yew]

what did he die to

[jolly crane]

are tipping and using voicelines more

[stray yew]

did he get hooked?

[jolly crane]

4man rotation

[worn drift]

hook into cc chain

[jolly crane]

LMAO

[worn drift]

no str morph

[stray yew]

i mean you arent morphing

hook

[jolly crane]

nah he got

[stray yew]

unless you see

[jolly crane]

hooked into

cogs

[worn drift]

rofl

ok

[stray yew]

[worn drift]

that was too funny

[stray yew]

gpkek

[jolly crane]

ngl

feels good

[stray yew]

ar making it a game

thats good

[jolly crane]

watching a morph die twice in less than a minute

[stray yew]

but also bad

[worn drift]

betboom just trying really hard to lose

[stray yew]

coz its already 2 am

i mean nightfall shouldnt have tped there

or

[last scaffold]

morphling getting globaled frfr

[jolly crane]

ye

just tp top

[stray yew]

shouldnt he just go triangle

ye

[jolly crane]

you know you just got ganked

by 4 people bot

and your team cancelled 2 TPs

[stray yew]

i guess cocky

[jolly crane]

then you tp bot again and go out on lane

[stray yew]

coz he thinks he will hit the shift now

(totally havent donie that myself)

[jolly crane]

ye

morphbrain

[stray yew]

damn

seli admits morph players have brain

[jolly crane]

you think youre immortal

[stray yew]

soon i will be human

[jolly crane]

nah

youll always be 🇵🇱

my favorite polish person

[stray yew]

the competition isnt fierce

i assume

but

[jolly crane]

kinda is

i know quite a few polish people

i think clock is underrated

but ye the chinese teams

[stray yew]

i mean if im phoenix

in a pub game

[jolly crane]

are spamming 3 voiucelines

[stray yew]

im pressing f9

[worn drift]

alright

[stray yew]

[worn drift]

betboom are jsut trolling ig

[jolly crane]

its epheys "uh oh, that was a mistake", the "did you really die again" from one of the chinese casters, and lgd has one thats just "enjoy dota"

[worn drift]

gpk tp base instead of going portal

[jolly crane]

theyre spamming those 3 lines

[stray yew]

pure did absolute forbidden

he bought blink

and instantly showed on lane

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

why would he do that

[jolly crane]

if your blink reveal isnt a kill

[stray yew]

ye

[jolly crane]

you kinda

made a massive mistake

[stray yew]

he didnt even try he just showed

[jolly crane]

that was kinda

unfortunate

but also badly played imo

by the clock

[worn drift]

gpk

[jolly crane]

but this luna is big

[worn drift]

feel like she dies in a duel

[stray yew]

h erly needs linken

nah he is itemizing decently

[jolly crane]

luna shard is kinda

very strong

[stray yew]

also has phoenix + boat

but he rly needs linken

or someone with linbken

[jolly crane]

boat, phoenix, shard

[stray yew]

or linken + someones linken

[jolly crane]

new luna shard is mui buen

if you need defense

[stray yew]

they dont even have many good linken breaks

morph stuff/cold snap/duel

ah enchant actually should proc it

[jolly crane]

they have nothing to break linkens

that he cant use smth else reactively to

to make the duel much harder to win

think pure will have to get a halber or smth after bkb

[stray yew]

skadi is rly good against dujel

[jolly crane]

to break linkens

ye

[stray yew]

coz you are just more tank and not that much more damage

[jolly crane]

dont think they really need this luna to be big rightclick

bbs lineup doesnt really have insane damage to begin with

cataclysm is a while away

kunkka morph is kinda okay

x+torrent

is nice in teamfights

think brew needs a linkens tho

[worn drift]

i hope there is no morph clock rocket incidents this game

to lose the game

[jolly crane]

well

theres the aeon disk

this lv15 brew talent is so stupid honestly

[stray yew]

do they need to nerf midas again

[jolly crane]

yes

any midas meta sucks ass

ench going bkb first item

maybe its just me, but i feel they need to do some aghs shard rebalancing. feels like theres quite a few heroes with insanely powerful shards

[worn drift]

yes

i swear

sometimes ppl just yolo tormentors

lmao

no way toronto knew he would live there with 100 hp

[jolly crane]

nah

i expect lou to just

die instantly

from hex+morph wave

[worn drift]

that is exactly what will happen

[jolly crane]

okay

this aint

nightfalls game

thats the base

like

the entire base

[worn drift]

well gg

dd luna

some 322 action

[jolly crane]

why did he stay there

he knew

clock was hooking

so obviously

hes not alone

[worn drift]

yep

just 322

the chinese government paid him

had to

idk why else he'd do what he did

hm okay the entire team is around this area, let me walk up this hg into no vision

oh woopsie i died xdd

[jolly crane]

ye that was just

idk

his team also wasnt even close

and thats an aghs

for the luna

[worn drift]

and now its ar's game to lose

[jolly crane]

double brew ult now

he can just solo the rax

wow

@stray yew guess we were right

nightfall morph

[worn drift]

jesus

[undone dagger]

Anyone know what they typed at the end?

[worn drift]

wait

i didnt see

[stray yew]

Gaben decided ar wins because dd

[worn drift]

more like china paid nightfall to troll

[stray yew]

but also ngl i didnt feel morph pick

he didnt do anything

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

hero isn't good either

[jolly crane]

he stood solo on lane vs brew ig

[stray yew]

ye besides first ten minutes

[jolly crane]

"not good enough lil bro"

[stray yew]

i dont even think its nightfall the hero is just bad was weaver banned?

[worn drift]

i mean

how is it not nightfall

[stray yew]

also dont think he is morph specialist

[worn drift]

when he dies 2x bot w/o morphing

then

does what he did mid

walks up to hg where luna is sitting

after seeing clock

and getting hook thrown at him

[jolly crane]

didnt betboom

[worn drift]

that isnt the hero

thats just him

[jolly crane]

hit them with the "?" in groupstage as well

after winning

[stray yew]

idk

[jolly crane]

psure they did

[worn drift]

oh wow

the chinese were talking mad shit at end

2 question marks

and some chinese

lmao

wasnt expecting that

[jolly crane]

ye

bu tai xing a xiao lao di

[worn drift]

but ig there is some beef

i was correct

[jolly crane]

not good enough little brother

[worn drift]

players too emotional

not to beef

[stray yew]

nah he did play bad but i think even if he doesnt they lose coz hero is bad

[undone dagger]

And "not very good" according to another channel

[worn drift]

i dont think so lol

[jolly crane]

ye

basically called him "lil bro"

[stray yew]

i didnt believe from drifting because its not his iconic good hero

[jolly crane]

[stray yew]

drafting

[worn drift]

nightfall threw away lead, then gpk tp's base when they go for a move thru the portal

complete trash

then nightfall gives up 2 lanes with his mid move

hero had nothing to do with this game

ig maybe

it does

cause he didnt press the button

or go where he should

regardless that was clown shit from nightfall

deserved loss

[undone dagger]

Ok so based on how folks are reacting, I'm slightly skeptical of these translations

[jolly crane]

tianming definitely seems to have some beef with pure

kinda denied him the handshake too

[stray yew]

he shouldve bought shard

[worn drift]

weird

[stray yew]

lmao

[worn drift]

cause their 5 is their shittiest player

but i like the shit talk

at least some action

[stray yew]

was 5 playing puck in G2?

[worn drift]

man

how is nightfall even in stable emotional state to give loser interview rn

after what he did

[jolly crane]

@undone dagger http://puu.sh/JTgvi/8a5a9b4a86.png

"not good enough little dude"

[worn drift]

me when i get killed 2x in 1.5 mins after not pressing str morph

[jolly crane]

is how neo would translate it

(neo is our chinese community liaison for r.io so ill trust him on the translation)

[stray yew]

so i guess he did choke in the end

[jolly crane]

ye

[stray yew]

im watching deaths on not coz i was afk

bot

[jolly crane]

the first bot gank was

not much he can do imo

but the second one

right after

[stray yew]

wasnt watching that part

[jolly crane]

oh

[worn drift]

lmfao

insania

"im banning quinn for his poor behavior in pubic matchmaking"

[jolly crane]

good call

[worn drift]

lmao

was that moonmeander

just casually shitting on lou

[jolly crane]

wasnt so much shitting on lou

as he just wants

ame to come back and win a TI with maybe and fy

[worn drift]

team spirit lets bring them on stage

lgd intro plays

[jolly crane]

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7380407733/chat

pure hit them with the questionmark

in groupstage match

after winning

[worn drift]

ye

there is definitely some beef between them

[jolly crane]

ye

[worn drift]

like i said

you dont just

forgive and forget

what they did at bali

[jolly crane]

i mean

i think what they did in bali was fair

[worn drift]

it was but it was also some definite pussy shit

[jolly crane]

meh

[worn drift]

why would you do that when youre not even involved in the conflict

[jolly crane]

TO couldve just said "nah"

wdym

their entire lower bracket run was fucked

as a result

forced to play against a team they didnt prepare for

[worn drift]

idk

just some pussy shit

[jolly crane]

you prep for a team for a full day

[worn drift]

that'll make anyone feel sore

[jolly crane]

and then a decision is made that changes your opponent

but the player causing that change

isnt disqualified?

yeah, id call that in question too

[worn drift]

okay why not just ask for a draft penalty instead

[jolly crane]

hows that gonna help them

[worn drift]

wdym

how does that not help them

is the better question

[jolly crane]

also psure

they got full draft penalty already

like

it was a fair request

to have him removed from the team

youre suddenly playing against betboom, which you werent supposed to

and the player that caused the problem isnt disqualified?

[worn drift]

it was a fair request but it is also just cringe

[jolly crane]

idk

its cringe that the TO

didnt decide it by themselves

the entire situation was just cringe

[worn drift]

its cringe that the TO did all of what they did in the first place lmao, tundra said they would replay the game or series or whatever

[jolly crane]

because the TO was half-assing their decisions

ye

nothing shouldve happened

[worn drift]

p sure tundra like

gave no fucks

[jolly crane]

other than draft penalty

but TO was changing their minds 3times

but when you make the decision to actually change the result of a game, then the player that caused it needs to be DQed, theres no way about it

[worn drift]

i still think being a pussy about it and throwing a fit of "either he doesnt play or we dont play" is cringe, betboom also didnt prepare for you just like you didnt prepare for them

ik you disagree

but you wont convince me otherwise

[jolly crane]

the decision to change the result was because of "cheating". you cant let the guy who "cheated" in the tourney. its just not acceptable.

[worn drift]

ok then ig 33

should have been remvoed from the next game

[jolly crane]

bit diffy

[worn drift]

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