lets go china
#DotA
ancient harbor
jolly crane
yeah....
if you have to drop sanitys eclipse
for spiderlings
you know the game aint going too well
ancient harbor
do they even have good HG defence on 9panda?
jolly crane
nah
they were banking on good lanes
but it didnt work out
primal lane and od
but od kinda sucks mid nowadays
rubick+et stomp is kinda the only thing they have
and you dont wanna stomp a creepwave
ancient harbor
????????????
🐒
woulda been super big brain to hit tormentor and kill morph wi th reflect damage
jolly crane
kinda not respecting the OD aghs
jolly crane
ehh
its just
they can obviously lose a teamfight
but 9pandas hasnt been on the radiant side of the map for 40minutes
was the first time they went out of the base
and thats cuz lgd kinda trolled that fight in front of the base
worn drift
ramzes going to lose the game easy tho
he hit buyback just gonna die now like a noob
shiro not showing a very good game tho
kind of noob gameplay
jolly crane
ye hes
not respecting the ET stomps
dunno why he doesnt get a pike
to force himself
only way he dies is if he gets stomped by ET
worn drift
ye he has like a 1 sec window to get cc'd lol
jolly crane
ye idk
lgd might lose this
and if they do, its well deserved
cuz theyre not playing their advantage at all
ancient harbor
0 respect
worn drift
ye they do not look good here lol
worn drift
its like they picked some creative shit and dont know how to play it
jolly crane
9p plays very well
nah they know how, but they just kinda
the ET is ruining their game
jolly crane
lots of respect from bnoth teams
agile onyx
Is that a core willow?
agile onyx
Wowee
ancient harbor
anything to just not be hit by ET stun right
thats the only thing catching him out properly
agile onyx
Also how was the liquid vs talon series? I missed it.
jolly crane
tbh he should just buy the upgraded euls
either that or pike
worn drift
ye idk he just has a 1 sec gap on realm cd
agile onyx
Oh man that's a lot of buybacks
jolly crane
this is gonna end up some
worn drift
its too strong to lose lol
jolly crane
90min game
worn drift
nah
1 side has all buys
1 side has none
except morph
all they need is 1
not even good fight
all they need is 9 pandas to engage them lol
jolly crane
theyre respecting each other too much
to make any kind of risky plays
od damage output is kinda absurd
ancient harbor
is this where darkwillow falls off
ancient harbor
yeah but OD ulti
ancient harbor
oh true
jolly crane
problem is that the mag and brood just die in a single hex
jolly crane
true
agile onyx
Even better than int
worn drift
ye
pirate hat on willow
hes getting literal perfect neutrals
altho now he has bigger gap on realm
if he wasn't a noob he'd buy upgraded euls
ancient harbor
gotta get travels instead
worn drift
kiyotaka just going to die no bb with no buttons pressed
ancient harbor
oooooft
ancient harbor
yeah
jolly crane
not have a chance
jolly crane
they still had
worn drift
well yea when the hero is close to invincible cant really do anything
jolly crane
full buybacks except brood
worn drift
you need some like
jolly crane
going into that LGD lineup
worn drift
bkb piercing aoe cc
jolly crane
to push highground
is
insane
any hero that starts hitting towers
gets blasted by the willow
and you ahve mag skewer/rp
worn drift
ye so
when you buy upgraded euls
you are legitimately not kill able
obviously can be dispelled by nullifier
worn drift
but still lmao
jolly crane
cuz it has 7sec cd as well
but ye you need smth to reposition in fights as willow
otherwise people just run you down
jolly crane
main issue imo was
worn drift
hero doesnt need silver edge
jolly crane
that one bot fight where od and morph both get away with 1hp
if either of them die there
the game is over right then and there
kiyotaka hard trolling with no bkb tho imo
and that tormentor play
procced his aghs
so the next teamfight he didnt have it
and had to buy out
worn drift
ye i mean he trolls quite often
jolly crane
well its kiyotaka
couldve gone great
think he kept them in the game a lot
by taking out a hero each fight instantly
usually the brood
worn drift
ye
worn drift
axe is a good choice vs this carry willow
also pango
kunkka
ah
faceless void would be good
just drop chrono on her near end of realm and shes deadge
haha
i was actually thinking night stalker and spectre is kind of good
just giving bunch of vision for spectre picks
worn drift
nts playing well
ancient harbor
he's still so far ahead of alchie
wraith scroll
Moos charges to farm are killing me lol.
ancient harbor
this is just like my pub games. enemy is destroying t3 and base mean while our pos1 is off farming neutrals still
worn drift
holy fuck lou has some INSANE gamer neck
ancient harbor
dude looks like a tank
stone geode
got spoiled on the last series just by opening the vod on twitch
stone geode
just noticed that LGD isnt PSG anymore
stone geode
im just finishing that one, 25 mins in
AR series to go
but I already know the result thanks to the vod name
stray yew
ngl nto relevant games enough
for me to watch them
maybe if it was 2-1 nouns or sth then id bother
but ar winning was expected
stone geode
just having a nice dota weekend
stray yew
chinese team already making it to top 3 is it?
balance in universe restored
chinese teams battling for upper final
meanwhile NA in the dirt 
stone geode
skiter had a really bad series there
BB some real bad drafts in the 9p series tbh
idk how they would match up against lgd
stray yew
ill always look at domestic cis matches with grain of salt
they are always weirdest
most fucked up shit
i remember eras where most dominant teams were CIS and then they go play some regional match
and lose to legit t2 team
stone geode
ye, its the weirdest region in that regard
spirit looking like a million bucks then they almost lose to VP
good thing yatoro is the best pos1 in the world
somnus the oldest midlaner (27)
jolly crane
but ar winning was expected
just finished watching game1
28-2
was insane stomp
and somnus with 0 deaths in game2
jolly crane
somnus the oldest midlaner (27)
its kinda crazy, hes been active and a toptier mid player since 2015
basically every other mid from that era is pretty washed or retired by now
midone, sumail, noone, miracle etc.
stone geode
I didnt watch too much of midone, idk how good he was
I just saw him in his washed up stage
stray yew
somnus couldve been greatest player ever
stone geode
hes maybe, right
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
ye
idk why chinese players retire so early/fast
whats about their culture or about them
that makes them do that
jolly crane
somnus couldve been greatest player ever
think the only reason no one considers him for the title is because he hasnt won a TI
stone geode
I like the random words chinese players pick as nicknames sometimes
stray yew
i mean its stupid
there are lots of great players in many sports that didnt win the biggest thing
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
in team sports at least
jolly crane
ame is often considered the #1 carry together with yatoro
and he hasnt won TI either
stone geode
the urge to play dota always intensifies when watching a tournament
then you remember you have nobody to play with and are washed up and old
jolly crane
but somnus/maybe was always considered worse than people like sumail or nisha or abed and i never really agreed with that. man is just insanely consistent, just doesnt do super flashy plays 24/7
jolly crane
think there was 1 TI where the entire groupstage had only 9 solo kills in midlane. somnus did 6 of those.
stray yew
i mean somnus doesnt play the game competitively
comes back
and instantly shits on people that play the game
its crazy
and unheard of
jolly crane
ye
same as last TI
if they didnt get hit with covid
it mightve been RNGs year
seeing how they went 9-1 in groups
then 9-9 into 100min bo1 loss
Why the fuck did K1 not max time lock
Level 14 and it's still lv3
But has maxed timewalk and dilation
stray yew
k1 is the carry from nouns?
if yes bro jsut trust him
gbuy is mega cracked actually
he deserves better team than nouns
humble yew
shopify vs tsm starting
slow nymph
rtz willow 
worn drift
Wonder who will be first to buy the upgraded euls on willow carry
All you need is octarine + that and then lvl 20 and you are invincible to single target
stone geode
windwaker?
worn drift
Ye
stone geode
it was bought yesterday on willow
worn drift
stone geode
before he did anything
stone geode
he was good for siege later
but the game felt won already before he even joined a fight
jolly crane
If he bought it earlier game would have ended
game wouldve ended
worn drift
Ye but question is would they have lost in late game state with other carry
jolly crane
if they got rosh
after primal dieback
and then kill last rax with that aegis
instead they feed, lose rosh, and game drags on another 20min
stone geode
it does look super cancer though
worn drift
Ye i mean they looked bad that game but game after they crushed
jolly crane
it is
worn drift
It is
stone geode
ye, even with brief vuln windows he got smoked by morph
worn drift
Aoe disable*
jolly crane
and while its very cancer, the hero doesnt do anything else, and its only singletarget damage
stone geode
it comes online quite late tbh
jolly crane
you kill 1 hero per shadow realm
ghost scepter fucks you
cause you cant get nullifier
worn drift
That is true
jolly crane
youre not in range for it
so theres a lot of counterplays imo
dont think SR will win this
stone geode
can both teams lose this and get eliminated?
worn drift
100% uptime
You have to pick some aoe stuff against her
If you dont and it goes late enough you just lose
worn drift
Nah more like grim bomb
Db ult
Etc
But ye i dont think lgd picking all that shit and winning with it does much for the tourny
People are just gonna pick willow 1 for funsies now cause it was revealed
Everyone already knew about it tho xiao8 isn’t really creating anything new
stone geode
lgd was another level, they would have won regardless
worn drift
Not rlly
They sucked game 1
Shiro looked super noobish
Game 2 they smashed though
stone geode
they made a few bad choices in g1
worn drift
On personal skill level shiro looked not good
If it comes down to a late game carry face-off spirit will win 10/10 times
stone geode
maybe we see in UB finals
stone geode
spectre looks super good
even if you sack it and go for other lanes it still does well and can come back
jolly crane
They sucked game 1
i mean
they misplayed like
2 fights
they didnt play well at all, agreed, but 9pandas kinda played perfectly and had no chance
lgd still had their safelane t1 minute 50
they were in total control of the game. they couldve still played a lot better, which is kinda scary
think the willow pos1 is less scary. i thought the brood was the more surprising pick and it did a lot of work
many of the current meta supports kinda suck against it
grim doesnt max stroke, willow, muerta, venge, treant, SD, AA
theyre all food for brood
sky too
stray yew
willow 1 is just cheesy coz you do stupid build for immunity
played into it bunch of time in pubs/with it when she got changed to universal
lmao people dying to tormentors still
stray yew
ye true
stone geode
jolly crane
rtz clown
looking forward to rtz retiring and the good players in this team becoming free agents
stone geode
whens the last time he was actually good
jolly crane
rtz gonna be zdps without any kind of attack speed
jolly crane
whens the last time he was actually good
if youre asking me? never
he was always overhyped
stray yew
you're wrong
he did change the game
as much as you might hate it
so did envy
they did change the game a lot
stone geode
dont remember either
jolly crane
thats the only impact i can imagine him having
stray yew
he did even now he was the one that brought muerta into pro play to begin with
jolly crane
he was always a t2 carry or mmid
stray yew
jolly crane
okay but
what does that have to do with him being a good player
if he brings it into the meta
and hten 5 other carries immediately play it better
envy wasnt a good player either. but he certainly affected how people approached the game, especially the math~y strategizing that he kinda started
and that aui took over
love how rtz buy maelstrom after aghs instead of before
to farm faster
stray yew
i know it was long time ago but 2013/14-2017 he was a top tier player
like we're talking top 5 at that time
with being probably best in that year where he got griefed by s4
in secret
dont remember what year that was
but it was year where they got knocked out because s4 is griefer on storm spirit
worn drift
they didnt play well at all, agreed, but 9pandas kinda played perfectly and had ...
Did they play well?
They got thrashed in lane (pandas)
Kiyotaka lost a lane hes supposed to thrash
worn drift
Hes supposed to delete him
humble yew
abed isnt playing Storm 
worn drift
Its a od vs melee match up lmao
stray yew
1st 5 level mag should be winning
jolly crane
but od isnt the lane dominator anymore that he used to be
stray yew
5 levels*
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
and then od should be winning
(according to sumail)
if you ask me i think he should be winning more
jolly crane
and mag can shove wave
im guessing its just a matchup
he wasnt used to
you dont see mag mid anymore at all
and few people play OD
stray yew
nts is better player than kiyotaka
jolly crane
but its not a lane thats just freewin
stone geode
I mean they last picked shaker into it
jolly crane
@worn drift i agree, 9pandas lanes were horrible. but they played the mid and lategame as well as they could
stone geode
so they probably thought he wins that
jolly crane
kiyotaka not getting bkb was questionable
but they held out much longer than anybody thought they would after that laning stage
jolly crane
shouldnt shaker be winning melee matchups?
dunno
i think its another case of like
kunkka is just stronger on early levels
stone geode
when kunkka gets 5 tidebringer is too low cd
jolly crane
problem in kunkka vs shaker matchup imo
is that you dont get ranged creep denies
another tormentor kill
stray yew
humble yew
jolly crane
i like the desolator
with 0 stacks
didnt he buy it like
20minutes ago?
that couldve been infinitely worse but fly hitting 3man stomp+splitter
humble yew
fights are hectic af
jolly crane
willow games will just all end up
being 60+ minute games i feel
unless it stomps
but pushing hg into willow is gonna be cancer
but you see the weakness of the willow carry in this game as well
its super immobile
and in this tanky meta, you just run on top of her
half the heroes you cant attack cuz they have blademail
rugged cipher
stone geode
its like watching division 2 innit
stone geode
they going home
jolly crane
sr not even best NA
theyre holding strats for next TI
this one doesnt have enough prizepool
manic ermine
Holding for the bigger prizepool
worn drift
Kekw did they really get 2-0’d
manic ermine
Nouns vs tsm will duke it out for the strongest NA team title
worn drift
Years of being together and just awful
worn drift
They had 1 wiff of a major and then got ?’d by emo and reverse swept
stray yew
nigma rtz sr kuroky
stray yew
they were decent team at that time but just lost
worn drift
Nigma, secret
Sr
Except nigma and secret have to play in europe
And sr has to play in na
So sr just hardstuck div 1 eliminated every tourny
stray yew
all im gonan say is
team taht was in final of qualifier in NA for TI
had fucking
funnik and dendi
worn drift
jolly crane
its kinda pathetic tho
considering what quality players SR have
and they just dont get anything done
i honestly believe, give this team a different coach and they can make a lot happen
i rarely wanna blame stuff on the coach or leader of a team, if they just play bad, but i feel that SR just needs new leadership. new ingame lead, and new coach
jolly crane
ye
stray yew
even their drafts
jolly crane
theyre just not playing as a unit i feel
stray yew
arent bad
jolly crane
idk if theres just players that dont mesh
but both fly and crit have shown that theyre capable of being flexible, for example
and i cant imagine abed being the issue
manic ermine
They don't mesh as a team
stray yew
fly played rly well in both of these games tbh
but mabye its just he looked much better than others in contrast
manic ermine
Cr1t can be amazing but then vs team spirit he throws 4 fights in a row by dying first as tusk
worn drift
Sr needs rtz to go pos 3
Then they need a new coach
And a carry
Also maybe a new pos 5 but idk how much fly does in background
But bulba is a tumor on the teams ass
Rtz still has decent micro but his carry gaming just not it
Give him pure treatment
stray yew
either that or have rtz become more of utility carry
worn drift
But i swear their team is definition of “another day in the office”
jolly crane
Idk
stray yew
get pos 1 from off ye
jolly crane
worn drift
Show up, shit their pants, leave
stray yew
i thought similarly
worn drift
Yep
jolly crane
Are you even trying at that point
Sure but crit said
When tsm hit their timing they didn't know what to do
stray yew
ah didnt listen was afk
stray yew
i mean didnt moon say before the game
that he doesnt understand why they let them lycan last
when this guy is mega spammer
jolly crane
How hard is it to kill people with primal/sky/cent
stray yew
and famous for lycan
jolly crane
And they had
worn drift
Just not the meta for crit
worn drift
Hes a melee 4 guy
jolly crane
Earth spirit 4 works too
worn drift
Ye but bulba is a pepega
In his mind es is mid only now
Even tho he has a es spammer on his team
Instead of playing to their strengths just give him sky xdd
jolly crane
shopifys game theory is just
always behind
so they copy shit
half the time it seems they dont understand why it works
it just does
and often they dont seem to understnad how these heroes fit together, how to take objectives etc.
so when the new stuff fails, they revert back to what they know from the past
so abed plays a spirit hero or puck
rtz plays morph or tb
but they just dont make it work, idk
honestly, fly and saberlight played a good tourney
the rest was just afk
stray yew
honestly, fly and saberlight played a good tourney
abed had some real decent games too
but ye rtz didnt rly exist in the games i wanna say
if they won rtz happened to be in the game
crit had rly insane hoodwink too i remember
also his grim isnt that bad but idk
maybe its a sign he's gonna leave
worn drift
I hope nouns can level up in downtime after ti
Or maybe gunnar will leave try to find an eu team like quinn did
stone geode
stray yew
HAHAAH
worn drift
pakaz big noob
where is your octarine
thats like must buy
SKADI?
okay this guy is terrible
if you dont buy octarine on this hero you are shit
this is about to be
90 min game
stone geode
1 more aegis
stray yew
pointlessly extending the game 
jolly crane
man
ngl
this meta is boring as fuck
when these teams play
its 10mins of action in the laning stage and then
everybody just farms up for 15min
until they have bkb/heart/whatever items
maybe its just NA dota
cis matches usually have a lot more brawling happening
16min since last kill
worn drift
its just matches with teams that aren't good
when ppl are shit they just resort to primal instinct
which is just going to pve for as long as they can afford to
worn drift
Nouns making thru another round
agile onyx
I laugh whenever K1 does the K1 thing
get two kills or deaths, and then afk farm for 30+ minutes
wraith scroll
Their bans are so good for ruining the already shit drafts of 9P.
GG, go next.
Free trip to the hotel!
stone geode
what was this nouns tsm g1
humble yew
was out last night, 1st thing I see this morning is Shopify Rebellion out first round of LB 
stray yew
humble yew
plush pivot
was out last night, 1st thing I see this morning is Shopify Rebellion out first ...
RTZ deserves that placement
plush pivot
he isn't but he is part of the team
it isn't really hate, he is just not good enough for that level of competition
humble yew
I dont agree
stone geode
I struggle to think of worse carries at this TI
but its mainly due to teamplay ofc, their placement is deserved
humble yew
I think very bad teamplay and draft makes you look 50% more ugly/bad
which is a SR issue for a while, camped on their picks, try to play textbook meta, fail
no true identity
plush pivot
this game reminds me of yesterday GG vs 9Pandas
stone geode
has to be a team change surely
humble yew
Lyrical 
stone geode
invoker having a real one
humble yew
hard time for brazil
worn drift
might be an entity win here
humble yew
take your bets lads
humble yew
pugna gaming
worn drift
just getting chased around the map by massive sk and a pugna
jolly crane
still hate how much sk has turned into a sandstorm bot
stray yew
33 diff
stone geode
weaver is so fat
jolly crane
havent seen a core invoker do anything in the last 3years
jolly crane
ye
hero just isnt good in mid atm
imo
and he didnt even lane into one of the beefy str mids
stone geode
gpk got eaten alive last series too
stray yew
i mean its mega over
just call it
i know the gmae will last 15 minutes more because naga and they will secure a rosh or two
but ye its mega over
humble yew
still hate how much sk has turned into a sandstorm bot
design felt more outdated this past months
jolly crane
i preferred the old SK design that was tailored around burrow
sandstorm SK is 
naga wont be able to skip waves cuz pugna drain
just instakills
wait
humble yew
idk old design felt too dependent around aghanim too
humble yew
it does?
jolly crane
looked like it did
humble yew
ah
jolly crane
maybe it was the ck illusions that just killed the naga ones
i actually looked this up cuz
i wasnt sure 😄
jolly crane
idk old design felt too dependent around aghanim too
dunno, hero just needs a buff to burrow castrange
and not the +25 it got
humble yew
yeh it put the doubt in me because Im used to play with a lion main
and it always did
jolly crane
ye lion drain does
but pugna i wasnt sure
and wiki says it doesnt
smort play by entity
jolly crane
its not that great against entity
since they dont wanna manfight anyway
still good but i can see why hed prefer the heart over it
humble yew
and wiki says it doesnt
aye
jolly crane
ngl i could never play naga
simply because id have to listen to 40-100minutes of perma riptide sound
humble yew
dunno, hero just needs a buff to burrow castrange
yeh it feels outdated/too weak
stray yew
if anything they need lotus lol
they dont have single disepl
and they have 2 hots
they just get urned/orchid
and die
worn drift
dunno im big fan of effects like torrent storm and sk aghs when game goes late enough
jolly crane
ink swell dispels
worn drift
short bkb
worn drift
peoples bkbs run out and then they get perma cc'd
jolly crane
yep
stray yew
glepnir is legit grief
jolly crane
you have insane early and then
buy core items
instead of using it to buy support items
and close out the game
worn drift
yep
worn drift
insane terrorize
humble yew
primal beast moment
worn drift
ye i dont believe in them as a team
stone geode
naga problem now
stray yew
only believing in 33
stone geode
think its entitys game to lose
stray yew
33 finished the video game
too good
if you ever do changes in tundra you never ever remove aui or 33
impossible to replace
stray yew
unless you have faith bian coming from retirement
worn drift
its like chrystalis with a couple more heroes in his pool
jolly crane
unless you have faith bian coming from retirement
even then
only other pos3 atm thats on his level imo
is niu
and that might just be a 1-patch-thing
stray yew
i mean collapse probably
stone geode
its ogre
worn drift
ye there are certain pos 3 players that are in another tier
bcuz you can actually rely on them to solo games on stuff like bristle
and they'll win lane most of the time and have giga impact
ye idk tundra are just a shit team?
lost to a tier 2 team and now losing to a tier 1.5 team
just kick skiter mid tournament and get someone from crowd honestly
naga should buy willow a moonshard
tundra dealing zdps
legit zdps
manic ermine
Focusing the primal with heart
worn drift
pugna aghs now maybe
maybe dmg
skiter just terrible
i cant emphasize this enough
this guy is a 322 master
i swear this guy is like the worst pos 1 in the world past ~30 mins
he just buys bunch of items to not die then goes into a fight first, does no dmg, dies
humble yew
tundra is looking grim
worn drift
its just ti winner curse
humble yew
worn drift
spirit same deal ti11
humble yew
ye true it's a choke
worn drift
idk if weaver is worth picking outside of pos 1
the hero doesn't do anything past a certain minute
worn drift
eh
idk after last patch theres like 2 pos 1 heroes that come to mind immediately that are like standout really good
ck and spectre
oh muerta as well but she can be countered pretty hard
manic ermine
By what?
worn drift
but fortunately she flexes into 4 which she is also good in
stray yew
centaur
worn drift
axe
manic ermine
Vs mediocre offlaners
manic ermine
10-13 on centaur atm
jolly crane
idk if weaver is worth picking outside of pos 1
definitey, just not with those items
they planned on pushing highground but then didnt
they stood in front of enemy base with 15k lead
top
then didnt push their advantage
manic ermine
Ursa unpicked
worn drift
10-13 on centaur atm
should look at what teams are picking it
anytime saberlight is picking a hero in tournament that winrate not gonna look good
manic ermine
I mean yatoro shredded centaur with muerta
thorny fiber
spectre ult buff seems over the top, i already thought it was a good hero 
manic ermine
Spec was 1 buff away from being broken
worn drift
spectre ult buff seems over the top, i already thought it was a good hero <:kekl...
idk why more ppl arent picking spectre
manic ermine
And they buffed her ult
stray yew
they fixed/buffed (?) part where grimstroke ult was not going through debuff immunity
which was clearly a bug
that took 3 months to fix
worn drift
it makes no sense the hero is super busted
stray yew
and then they gave ink swell buff on top of that
worn drift
her only weak point is lane
stray yew
coz there is lots of busted shit in meta
that some people arent even considering banning/picking
kunkka is busted
earth spirit is busted
worn drift
i swear kunkka
stray yew
(all of these are good 1st phase picks)
worn drift
idk how you counter 2x torrent storm
manic ermine
Just burst the heart kunkka
thorny fiber
idk why more ppl arent picking spectre
his lack of laning prowess is somewhat helped by the ulti buff imo
can gank more instead of just sitting lane
stray yew
oh ye there is bristle
thorny fiber
get assists
stray yew
trhat i didnt mention
thorny fiber
kills
humble yew
enchantress 
stray yew
enchantress only some teams tbh
manic ermine
Ench might be the other op hero but you ban it vs specific teams
worn drift
idk i feel like spectre makes your game real hard
like your supps haev to play super cautious and shit
manic ermine
Void looks bad this patch
worn drift
of course looks bad when ppl like midone and skiter pick it 
thorny fiber
his pure dmg also helps vs some heroes
manic ermine
Cannot kill anyone in chrono
worn drift
this might be a 2-0
i swear after nouns 2-0'd them they all sat down and said "okay so were just going to pick skiter his signature ck if they let us and game should win itself"
and then they lost
thorny fiber
i like the reso comment about stormstormer, whenever i hear him talk about dota he just seems like he loves the game and always happy
even when he's losing
manic ermine
Lotus
worn drift
ye
manic ermine
Tundra just threw as a collective real bad
stray yew
weaver went too core items/pugna didnt go aghs/33 couldve done sth else
but if anything
im not blaming 33
worn drift
its crazy cuz they lost that even with the insane early advantage they had lol
they had mid tower dead at 5:50
topson shit on invoker
worn drift
they just threw
ye but how do you throw a game where enemy mid is stomped into the ground and you have mid open at 5:50
with little investment
guy was just q'ing it
that game should have ended at 20-25
stray yew
ofc
worn drift
like they are just absolute shit
idk how they win the game if the game state isn't in their favor
humble yew
tbf tundra struggled this season with the roster
saksa had to take a break
aui took his place
then topson
worn drift
classical mk mid to counter kunkka ig lol
stray yew
its not that insane as some time ago
worn drift
water runes + supps help
stray yew
also could be mk 4
worn drift
doubt it
stray yew
or 3
worn drift
altho kk might be 3 as well
stray yew
they could flex any hero to any role