Grimi - Log Review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

restive jewelBOT Apr 13, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Second week of raiding with my rogue - still much much room for improvement, any help is appreciated.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:06 AM

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I'll take some easy pickings before someone better can take a look at

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your first 3 globals are okay

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but then your sdance into shadowstrike is wrong

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terros is a ST fight and youre running the first dance

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so you should be doing sdance -> gloomblade -> evis

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:07 AM

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Alright, thanks.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:07 AM

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also don't really need to hold tea till the 3rd global of sdance but thats a bit minor

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i suspect that tea at 23secs is a bit wasteful as well

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i've never had to use it that early

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since with lust + sblade you shouldn't be starved for energy

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cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:10 AM

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Likely just a missclick on my side.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:10 AM

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yeah shit happens

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uhhh your symbols also looks a bit wasteful

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i know it says to pop it on cooldown

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but waiting a second or two to make it line up better to restore energy is fine

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like dont hold it for 10 seconds

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but 1-2 seconds is fine

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:11 AM

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Okay, sounds reasonable.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:12 AM

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snd is sorta okay, 97.44% uptime

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could be 100% but shit happens

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:12 AM

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Made the tracking WA a bit clearer for myself, after the raid.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:13 AM

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rupture uptime also pretty good 98.32%

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okay going back to casts because i got side tracked

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you should also be pressing vanish shadowstrike after sectech

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in the opener

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:14 AM

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Right after Tech?

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:14 AM

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yep

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check teh opener in the FAQ

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Vanish in Shadow Dance:
Vanish in Shadow Dance is a small optimization when playing with Danse Macabre. It is a Damage gain because of the 25% damage gain on Shadowstrike after Vanish and the additional combo point generation from premeditation. The optimal use is after Secret Technique.

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even more benefit with sblades up

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:15 AM

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Aaah, that makes sense.

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Thanks.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:16 AM

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theres nothing you really need vanish for on this fight anyway

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so you can line up one with every sblade

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and another to pop whenever you want

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yep another sdance not done right, so i'm just gonna assume thast a not knowing the correct sequence thing

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which im sure youve now looked at

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but another thing here is to not rupture during dance

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dance is a big damage multiplier

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and rupture dynamically scales

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:17 AM

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Yeah, the rotation tends to go downhill as the fights go on.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:17 AM

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so you never want to refresh rupture during dance

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haha yeah i know the feeling

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but with sub it shouldnt

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sub is very static with its rotation

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its one of those that looks complex

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but your dance rotation is basically the same every single time

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NyanMoroes of course
BOT
— Today at 15:47
When to apply rupture:
Rupture is used on enemies that survive for ~12 seconds but not during Shadow Dance. You always apply Rupture to all targets that fulfill this condition if you optimize for dps. Replicating shadows spreads Rupture to the closest target and makes correct positioning relevant.
Fimbulvtr — Today at 15:48
!finality
NyanMoroes of course
BOT
— Today at 15:48
Finality rupture:
Optimizing around finality is mainly about consuming the buff in time, the optimal way to do so is to prepare Rupture for Shadow Dance. This means to use Rupture if the remaining cooldown of Shadow Dance is lower than 10 seconds and you have the Finality: Rupture buff.
This optimization can lead to 2 Rupture casts between Shadow Dance, this is not a mistake. This optimization is only relevant on pure single target.

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youre doing sectech with coldblade which is good

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bit of downtime with missed globals here, but could be a lack of energy/had to move

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i wont comment anymore about dance rotation

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except this one

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so dance is off the GCD

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but your other abilities arent

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so you pressed dance right after you pressed GB

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but you couldnt use another ability for another second

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essentially wasting one GCD in dance

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:20 AM

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Kinda embarrassed tbh - didnt actually notice it's off the GCD.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:20 AM

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you should be able to fit 8 GCDs within dance if you do everything right

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pooling energy before a dance is fine

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haha don't worry about it dude

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there's a lot of things to pick up about sub

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but once you figure it out it falls in place

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like these are my logs, slowly grinded my way up

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Thanks for the tips and help, much appreciated - gotta run off now.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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sa_thumbs_up

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the thread will remain up

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so refer back to it later

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someone else might come by and also critique some other shit

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Yeah, it's only week 2 on this toon - still got a lot of stuff to learn.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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ye just hit some dummies

cloud summit Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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But you've been a big help, thanks.

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 AM

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get the muscle memory in

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all good mate

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oh I said i wouldnt comment on anymore dances but this is a very bad one i dunno wtf this is

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you also shouldnt need to tea in dance

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tea is best used outside of dance

neat lotus Apr 13, 2023, 9:08 AM

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radiant plinth you also shouldnt need to tea in dance

Unless you're capping on charges

radiant plinth Apr 13, 2023, 9:51 AM

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yeah but i don't think he was capping on charges then

neat lotus Apr 13, 2023, 2:08 PM

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@radiant plinth mentioned already but I thought I'd raise something else

If you don't take TFD, you'd want to do the GB optimisation during dance for sectech as well
I.E.: dance, strike, evis, strike, (gb), sectech

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Minor thing, but possibly SnD earlier for more uptime

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overcap of CP at the start, also vanish strike optimization as mentioned earlier. Terros is a ST fight with no vanishable mechs, so no reason to hold vanish.
for TFD that looks like:
dance, gb, evis, strike, sectech, vanish, strike, evis

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CP overcap

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Not enough CP here

neat lotus Apr 13, 2023, 2:18 PM

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radiant plinth

@cloud summit this particular sequence is heinous. Also if you have sectech binded outside of stealth bar. get rid of it. sectech is used only in dance

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