#Evade log analysis

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solid warren
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opened a thread

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taking a look shortly

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rupture uptime could be slightly higher

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slice and dice uptime seems fine

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your first dance

gleaming fiber
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you mess up dance rotation a bunch

solid warren
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you didn't hit all 8 gcds

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if you want to, you can use storm as 2nd gcd here

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it guarantees find weakness

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strike-storm-rupture

gleaming fiber
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about half-way through the fight you start using st as your first finisher in dance

solid warren
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2nd dance

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again 7 gcds

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you have a bad habbit too

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of using dance when starting a gcd

barren raven
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So im missing my 8th gcd?

solid warren
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it does make it for you harder to hit all gcds

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only looked at the first 2 dances, but in both times you did

gleaming fiber
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also this bit here is bad

solid warren
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^

gleaming fiber
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because you go into dance with 4cp, you gloom to 5, ss to 10+

barren raven
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Ah k.. so im bungling up my shadow dance window.

gleaming fiber
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if gloom or ss crit thats 2 more cp you might have, if you have sblades running thats another 2. so that combo might be overcapping by a full finisher

solid warren
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your tea use

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if we look at energy levels

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you ended up very low

gleaming fiber
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this is another dance where you miss a full global, and use st in the wrong spot

solid warren
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tea use is mostly for energy

barren raven
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I guess i just need more practice. Loving this feedback

solid warren
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while, you didn't waste tea uptime if you do what you did

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as you saw in the energy curve

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you did basically sit on low energy and not use tea

barren raven
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I’ll keep yea use to low energy instead of trying to fit it into shadow dance windows for the extra mastery

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Tea *

solid warren
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you can use it in first dance

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but after that you want to primarly use it for energy

barren raven
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Ya that makes sense. No point leaving it 3/3

solid warren
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if you rly can't use it for a minute and are about to cap

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ofc you can use it during dance too

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but that shouldn't happen usually

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also about energy

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i don't know your energy levels

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but waiting doing nothing so long is inefficient

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not certain why you had a like 3-4 sec gap randomly there

gleaming fiber
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also check out the finality rupture optimization

solid warren
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it does not look like you had not enough energy

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1:17 you had 60 energy

barren raven
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Is that a weak aura Zypher?

gleaming fiber
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i don't know how to get wcl to show just that buff and dance windows to check for sure

barren raven
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Fuu I may have been mistakenly pooling energy while I waited for optimum rupture finality but who knows

solid warren
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the problem with artificial downtime is

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you basically waste globals you could use finisher/builder on

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this is why you usually don't wait much

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you rarely pool

barren raven
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Yea, like I could have gb evis and rebuilt for the rupture

solid warren
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also this

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you can optimize rupture if you want

barren raven
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Rather than sit there pooling and if I didn’t waste my teas I could have used it there instead

solid warren
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its a small optimization tho

gleaming fiber
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yea its not huge, and it often happens sort of naturally. if you look at your timeline here

solid warren
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also one thing about vanish

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you only used it 2 times during the fight

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the fight lengh is fairly short ofc

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but ~3 min fight you can easy fit 3

gleaming fiber
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you did it on your own in the first half of the fight, and not in the second half

barren raven
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Always after secret tech?

solid warren
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one word about "parses" tho

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short fight lenghs have bigger swings

gleaming fiber
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so in this chunk here you could have used up the buff on that dance, letting you get a buffed rupture for both your last dances and saved a rupture cast

barren raven
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What’s that mean exactly zyp im confused with the wording? Use rupture 10 seconds after shadow dance or hold off using shadow dance on cooldown for up to 10 seconds if it means I can use an optimal finality rupture?

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So like shadow dance can be used but I don’t use it so I can get in a rupture?

gleaming fiber
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if you have the finality rupture buff up, and your dance has less than 10 seconds left on the cooldown you rupture ignoring pandemic

solid warren
gleaming fiber
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so if you look at the picture there, its of your buffs. so when you don't have finality rupture buff, it means you have finality rupture applied to terros

barren raven
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So regardless if say I have 30 seconds left on rupture, I should re rupture if I have the finality rupture buff and shadow dance is useable in less than 10 Seconds?

gleaming fiber
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if you look at the green windows, you use up the buff, and it lasts two dances. you gain the buff again because you've applied a fresh rupture, then the buff gets used and it lasts the next two dances

barren raven
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Is the goal to have finality rupture on as much as possible?

gleaming fiber
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yea it gets finality rupture up for every dance (except the very initial one)

barren raven
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I was wondering if it was best to use 1 combo point rupture for the finality buff then full combo point finality rupture

gleaming fiber
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nah

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just use normal finishing rules

barren raven
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K

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Im struggling to get all 8gcds in the shadow dance window. Maybe it just comes with practice

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But as fuu was saying, im missing the 8th a lot

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Any tips to get them all in?

gleaming fiber
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yea thats definitely the biggest issue, but also make sure your dance ordering is correct

barren raven
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Yea, 8 gods and proper order

gleaming fiber
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practice, pretty much. there might be a gcd timer weakaura or something to help you with that, i have no idea off hand

barren raven
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Do I have the exact order correct? Shadow dance, gb, evis, shadow strike, cb, ST, shadow strike, evis?

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Err that’s only 6gcbs so add another shadow strike evis?

gleaming fiber
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its going to vary some depends on if you get crits and wm procs. but ideally yes

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the first 4 should be the same every time, since its always the same, but after st you might not be able to so strike-evis-strike-evis

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it might be strike-strike-evis-strike for example, or strike-evis-strike-strike

barren raven
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Gotcha, thanks again to you and Fuu for all your help. I got some work to do

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It’s one thing to practice with a target dummy. But doing it while dodging boss mechanics is another thing. Thanks to you guys though I know where I need to improve

solid warren
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it usually comes down to comfort else

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just playing more should make you more comfortable hitting all globals