#freshy - Log Review

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deft dragonBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

high isle
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it looks like you are using this build for every boss

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this is a weird build. it looks like something you might consider on raszageth.

small kindle
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i usually run the typical m+ build and have been told by a few to do ghostly for raids

high isle
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ghostly strike is only good for single target damage

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that is Terros and maybe Raszageth

small kindle
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gotcha

small kindle
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how is it when i do m+ i seen videos of people doing 250k+ pretty consistently but i cannot do those kind of numbers

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yea that looks like what i usually ruin

high isle
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250k sounds like aoe burst with the Boon trinket

small kindle
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my average m+ overall ending dmg is usually around 60k

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i see good people average 100k+

next juniper
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That's not abnormal depends on the pull.

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100k+ are more common in NO or AA, but not every dungeon can do 100k+.

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It also heavily depends on how well the tank is chaining the pulls.

neat salmon
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and if you have CDs and trinkets up for those

high isle
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They wouldn't be doing those numbers with your gear so don't fixate on other players for now

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The first thing I see is it feels like you are trying to link Shadow Dance and Adrenaline Rush

next juniper
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Talk about gears... The second trinket is pretty bad, and you only have 2pcs of the set.

high isle
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Adrenaline Rush should be use pretty much on cooldown. Very rarely do we hold it

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Your first spell on the pull or even before the pull

small kindle
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gear link must be out of date

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my gear is pretty high with sad output

next juniper
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Ah, much better setup.

small kindle
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i AR roll then open

high isle
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oh. this log is a month ago.

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sorry, I'll find one more updated

small kindle
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you guys are awesome btw and i greatly appreciate your time and all this help and info

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i have boon as well but find myself never using it at the right time and it gets me killed

next juniper
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If that's the case you can either plan ahead more to think about when you can pop boon, or switch to an easier trinket. I took the latter.

high isle
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Okay one thing I see is you sitting on Vanish

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Vanish is used immediately if you have no audacity and 3 or less fan the hammer stacks, and are not already in stealth

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So, you should never hit sinister strike if vanish is ready

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example on pull. you had no procs after your first subterfuge opener. so it was time to hit vanish instead of SS

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you also have a tendency to hit sinister strike while either audacity or fan the hammer is active

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unfortunately that's an error. This build needs to react quickly to procs

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if audacity is active then your next cp generator must be ambush. if FTH is active then your next cp generator must be pistol shot, unless you can already use ambush from stealth/audacity

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That means it is okay to use ambush/FTH at 5cp

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you are also sometimes using finishers at 5cp. only finish at 6-7cp

neat salmon
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i used to do that also and found that it made me hold vanish and shadow dance forever waiting for the "right" moment. feels better blowing CDs faster now though

high isle
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you used to do what? you are supposed to hold vanish or dance until their rules are met

neat salmon
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was definitely weird at first hitting vanish with 3 FTH

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hit SS when audacity or FTH was active. basically, not following the flow chart

high isle
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i see

next juniper
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You don't need to hit vanish with 3 FTH. You hit vanish whenever you run out of both audacity and FTH.

high isle
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You use vanish at 3 or 0

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but holding vanish until 0 only is very similar/small loss

next juniper
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Ah, that's right, because of restless.

high isle
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either way, would not hit SS with vanish ready

neat salmon
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that led to my question in the main chat regarding 5CP situations with procs. i was hitting SS at 5CP with audacity up and 3FTH because i felt like wasting combo points was bad, but that made the chain of almost always having audacity or lots of FTH, so i never had a time to use shadow dance or vanish. i fixed that because i felt that holding CDs for that long was just bad, but wanted to double check

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was just providing context to freshy that he's not the only person doing that ๐Ÿ˜‚

next juniper
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Hitting SS is worse than wasting CP. lol

high isle
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all good

neat salmon
next juniper
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The core spirit of the build is to (ideally) never press SS again.

neat salmon
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i think that's the hard part because SS has been so integral for years

high isle
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But anyway without watching a vod I think there are not a lot of extreme crazy errors

neat salmon
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it's fun because it's different though

high isle
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it feels like some of your issues may be related to things that are harder to detect from logs

neat salmon
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how's freshy's secondary stat breakdown?

high isle
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like positioning for blade flurry. minimizing downtime, staying on the target marked by BtE, and keeping up with the APM of outlaw, not missing globals

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i never look at stats. outlaw doesnt care unless you have 3000 haste

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Looks fine to me

neat salmon
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haha alright fair

small kindle
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messing around on the dummy after apply what you said seems to be insanely better

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im trying to get out of the spam buttons as fast as possible and apply the right priority

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whats the easiest wya for me to record a M+

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stream on twitch and just save the vod

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or is there a an easier way

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i agreee with the stats thing as well. i get trolled by my friends becaause they will do a m+ with a 390 rogue who out dmgs me and im 413

next juniper
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I was in the same situation 2 months back. We had 2 outlaws in a +18 run. At the end of the dungeon the other outlaw did 30% more damage than me.
I asked him how he did it. He just took a glance at the details breakdown and point out that I casted about the same number of SS and ambush. Because I tried to "save CP" by casting SS at 4/5/6 if ambush would overflow even 1 CP. Changed that and my output was way better.