#Berg - Log Review

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marsh ibexBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

acoustic snow
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had two pretty rough nights on Sennarth and want to know how I can improve.

There are plenty of pulls to look at on these two raid nights but I am posting the kill logs.

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Main thing I immediately notice myself is really bad SnD uptime for the first log

rigid chasm
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don't you have teros fight maybe better to see mistake

acoustic snow
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i swap to hpal now on terros and i think if i was gonna play rogue there id probably go assassin

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I have a general feeling I've got something wrong for outlaw. I wonder if my roll the bones usage is bad. I rely on a roll the bones WA that I think is kept up to date with the most recent logic but not sure if I'm using it properly.

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couple extra things I'm noticing is I have way way WAY more sinister strike usage than the r1 outlaw parse on Sennarth. Something I think I underestimated is how high of combo points you can have and it still be worth to use opportunity procs instead of sinister strike. In addition to that though I think I am just somehow getting thrown out of the FTH/Ambush feedback loop more than just me making bad choices to sinister strike.

rigid chasm
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you are not holding dance/vanish as last resort

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you should only use it when you don't have any procs

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i see some pistols shot used only with green skin

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for some reason you don't use GS too

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pull wrong too

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you should have opened with blade flurry as its a cleave senario

rigid chasm
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Blade flurry refesh should be enoughshould be enough

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this should be your go to roll unless it was unlucky

acoustic snow
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Yeah i think i did a much worse job than normal of not holding dance/vanish until i need it that night

rigid chasm
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i feel like you use it on cd

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but i might be wrong

acoustic snow
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When i think of how to use it in my head thats not what i plan to do but in the moment you could totally be right

rigid chasm
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i think thats the main reason you use ss so much

acoustic snow
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during harder prog bosses i might see it light up and press it

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thats a great point

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the SS usage is such a glaring problem it seems like

rigid chasm
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its because when u have real downtime u don't have any cd to smoth the rotation

rigid chasm
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and the main problem is your reroll i think

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unless it was really bad rng

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41 % for broadside and TB

acoustic snow
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what are you referring to with GS

rigid chasm
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only 14 for skull

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ghostly strike

acoustic snow
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oh yeah

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ive thought about that

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swapped off GS early in heroic and never looked back because i was rarely playing outlaw

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i kind of liked blade rush for the utility on sennarth but im definitely down to try GS

rigid chasm
acoustic snow
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So my group was really hammering on killing the frost spider besides the first one

rigid chasm
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and as i see your raid allready blasting the adds

acoustic snow
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first spider i cleaved off boss, rest of them they wanted us to focus spider

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but i think we could probably rebalance that a bit

rigid chasm
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i sdon't say not to focus it

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just mono it

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your cleaving with the build you have

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and as they seems to die fast your losing a lot of damage overall

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like the talent boost your cleave by 5-10 % thats only 250-500 dps

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that could give u 2-3 k with gs

rigid chasm
acoustic snow
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Ok so the first 2 messages you sent there after my last reply

rigid chasm
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but i think im mostly right

acoustic snow
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im a bit confused by those

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i dont say not to focus it, just mono it

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what do you mean there?

rigid chasm
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hmm phrasing bad tbh

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these 2 give u cleave damage

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so when ur switch to add you do more to senarth

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and less to spider

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but overall the gain these give is less i think than just using gs when you switch and having it when add not here on boss

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so they are really bad in the scenario where you switch

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they would have been passable if you were cleaving add and not switching

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is that clear ?

acoustic snow
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I'm still slightly confused but I think i am understanding

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so with my build i should've always been cleaving off spider

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you are recommending swapping some talents and picking up GS and switching to the add when it spawns?

rigid chasm
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yes

acoustic snow
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am i understanding?

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ok

rigid chasm
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get gs and CTO

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thse two talent are good if you focus boss and cleave adds

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but on sénart i think they are never good

acoustic snow
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is this a just-for-sennarth swap or can be used on other bosses too?

rigid chasm
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cleave is good on dathea maybe if you do platform a lot

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or if you do adds on duirna

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else get GS/CTO

acoustic snow
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So what talents am i dropping to get those points

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dancing steel for 1 point im guessing

rigid chasm
acoustic snow
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Thanks so much for the feedback

rigid chasm
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don't forget to ask a second opinon

acoustic snow
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Who would you recommend? Is it rude to tag someone else in here?

rigid chasm
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im not that confident some might be not that great

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you can reply to your comment on the outlaw chanel to ask for help

acoustic snow
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to my initial !logs comment?

rigid chasm
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yes

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i did that

acoustic snow
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ok will do, thank you

rigid chasm
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don't forget to really read the FAQ

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some info can pass over your head

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i read it a lot because sometime some thing are not that obvious

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if no one answer you can allways redo fight next week and repost a log review request after changing what i told you

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and see if you improved

acoustic snow
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Yeah my goal is to really improve on reclear next week and hopefully have some better logs to show here and review

rigid chasm
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dw

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and you don't have ring/flaring coxl yet

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thet like 5 % damage

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and you have way too much mastery

acoustic snow
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Yeah that's fair, but my damage feels bad for where I'm at with gear. I initially geared for assassin/sub but i am considering recrafting and swapping focus more to outlaw.

rigid chasm
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ho btw

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just lokked at laria

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you have wrong gems

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you get a mastery proc

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with those really bad

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sims for versa crit and crit versa gem

acoustic snow
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yeah I learned about that after I socketed that the lower stat gets the proc. Wasnt as worried about it when i was focusing more on assassin

rigid chasm
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u might get a lot of dps

acoustic snow
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I'm gonna regem and recraft gear and really focus on outlaw this weekend and see how it feels

rigid chasm
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do you still heve sparks ?

acoustic snow
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i think i have 1 available still

rigid chasm
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craft weapon or boot

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if you can get it to 418

acoustic snow
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yeah i have enough to make another 418

rigid chasm
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and sims finger as melandrus not that good on outlaw

acoustic snow
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yeah ive heard that

rigid chasm
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you can also get Tset glove

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and craft the flaring cowl

acoustic snow
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yeah i would need to get that ring first for that to be worth though right?

rigid chasm
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it can be worth it even without

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the proc does 1 k in itself

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but 4 p better yes

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try to get a better trinket too i heard that the dragon shell of RLP might be good

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didn't tryed myself

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a quick fix for ring might be the 389 ring of cobalt assembly

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sim it

acoustic snow
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Damn i have that, you think that is better than the rings im wearing?

rigid chasm
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sims it

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^^

acoustic snow
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ok i will

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I think before I recraft I'm going to sim all of the gear with crit/vers missives and gems first to see the difference

rigid chasm
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hmm t3enchant on wepon like 400-600 dps too

acoustic snow
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Yeah lots of easy dps being lost. You are making me feel better about how shit my damage was lol.

rigid chasm
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i think that cover almost evrything stuff related

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ye dw

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its progress anyway

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the best i did in progress mythic was a 50 % i think

acoustic snow
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yeah I just try to set the bar high for myself

rigid chasm
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parse a bit biased as the big guild are allways more geared than us

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so hard to get good parse when ur siming 10-15 k below the others

acoustic snow
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yeah but with how strong rogue is I should be near the top of the list in my mind

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for my own guild's kill

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thats my goal

rigid chasm
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i din't do senarth MM yet so i can't really tell what i should expect

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but 58 k not that bad

acoustic snow
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Ya thanks. I want to be much better than not that bad though lol. But I get what you mean.

rigid chasm
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gl then 😄