#Lewis Burnell - Log Review
empty canopy
vestal shell
versed canopy
Ur starter burst looks weird)
sterile pollen
also missed a deathmark
vestal shell
I try to copy this
versed canopy
Simpliest thing to do, is to open top 5 sin logs on heroic st boss. And see timeline of casts
sterile pollen
yeah, the openers from here are bangers. practice em hard
vestal shell
Simpliest thing to do, is to open top 5 sin logs on heroic st boss. And see time...
I will do that
vestal shell
yeah, the openers from here are bangers. practice em hard
It's definitely not muscle memory yet
willow rose
opener is kinda scuffed, like they said legit just sit at training dummy and spam it till it's muscle memory
sterile pollen
if you're bungling it after practice, you can try the dtb st builds instead, they are a few steps less complicated. not sure how they sim for ya
willow rose
missing a DM also just massive for you
vestal shell
When you say miss, simply not cast right, or not cast at all?
willow rose
yeah you didn't cast one
sterile pollen
you held your second dm
vestal shell
KK
sterile pollen
which meant it wasn't up in time
versed canopy
Just look at terros from other top rogues timeline casts
vestal shell
Do you have a link?
sterile pollen
well, he's got another sin buddy in his raid that played it a little cleaner too that can demonstrate
willow rose
sterile pollen
oh. better link
willow rose
r1 heroic terros log sorted by that rogue and in casts
vestal shell
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1AQ4zdrXCM3D7yGZ#fight=9&type=casts&source=...
ok nice that's very clean
willow rose
o7
versed canopy
Look, open warcraftlogs and filter it by only sin rogues logs
willow rose
hopefully some of the giga brain rogues show up and can mention more nuanced things for you
versed canopy
On terros
willow rose
but in general, missing an entire CD is gonna just grief ur dmg
mental inlet
you could probably try run DTB raid build
is much more forgiving
unless you really want to play kb
sterile pollen
you also seem to detest casting SbS for some reason
versed canopy
Nah, better try the hardest rotation opener. It will benefit him in future)
mental inlet
I guess that is true 😛
sterile pollen
your friend also dislikes it which is wonky
its free real estate cheap cp and damage compared to mut
vestal shell
unless you really want to play kb
Honestly I love the KB build
sterile pollen
casting a 30sec cd 2 times in a 4:30 fight is not so great
mental inlet
stick with it then np, I've been playing DTB myself on raid and got better result but it is less interesting for sure
vestal shell
I'm really new to assasination so a lot to learn
mental inlet
the KB build is very punishing if you have to move or if you are forced to switch or leave your target
baseline at least you have good uptime on rupture and garrote so there is that 🙂
vestal shell
small wins 😄
sterile pollen
from my tired-head mind here would be my order of operations for improvement:
- fix your opener
- practice your shiv/KB window to make sure the tail end of your KB is optimized. IIRC you are supposed to hold your second shiv a little bit so that you either have full coverage of KB or the last 8 seconds if you didn't remember to pool your shivs
- don't overly hang on your DM/KB casts. holding your KB at 1:20-1:30 made it desync from DM, which I assume you recognized and thus held DM for at 3:30, which was another KB window. That chain of holding caused an entire DM to go out the window.
- use your SbS for cheap cp more. (its like 158% AP for 15energy vs mut's 72? for 50)
vestal shell
what's sbs?
sterile pollen
There's probably other things to tweak, but those would be the priority targets. bleed uptime seems fine, I didn't really check to see if you scuffed an improved bleed anywhere cuz I'm too tired for that atm
mental inlet
bone spike
sterile pollen
that permanent bone shiv that you stick in someone and forget about
vestal shell
ahh didn't realize
sterile pollen
both you and your bushrustler friend seem to hate pushing the button
its great
use it more
vestal shell
I forget that it does impact damage
sterile pollen
you hit it twice, they hit it once
mental inlet
usually if you make it sure its never at 3stacks its fine
sterile pollen
its a mut on steroids for a fraction of the cost
mental inlet
but its a good combo filler also
vestal shell
That's a great tip thank you
sterile pollen
yeah. I tend to spend it until I'm at 1 stack unless I'm pooling for adds/cleave stuff
vestal shell
I used to main feral so I guess I could look at it like lunar as a cheap filler
mental inlet
some like that, it dosnt recharge super fast
sterile pollen
that way if more important stuff pops up that I've forgotten about I'm not sitting on 3/3 charges
because I'm terrible at dot classes and hate myself
mental inlet
one thing to remember about spike: its a permanent dot, so if there are adds around you might get a dps gain making sure the adds have it
cause its just gonna stay on them and you dont have to think about it
sterile pollen
you also get a spike back when they die
mental inlet
yep
sterile pollen
so its wayyyyy better than mut there
vestal shell
ok neat
livid crater
I just want to say you guys are doing great thank you so much you have no idea how much pressure it takes off the CF's to have you guys doing these
agree with everything so far being said
lovely people
sterile pollen
I never thought whispyr would ever say something nice about me
livid crater
vestal shell
It's all incredibly helpful
sterile pollen
my years of parsing logs of classes I'm bad at have finally paid off
vestal shell
very greatful for the help and we raid again wednesday so I'll be hitting the dummies to practice the opening rotation
livid crater
It's all incredibly helpful
it's also an incredible amount of work, you're the 102nd log review in this channel
sterile pollen
maybe this week I'll finally have a log worthy of reviewing 😛
livid crater
so having knowledgeable people in here that aren't overworked mods, really helps
:P
anyways
you guys have a good night it's 2am here
livid crater
if you do get some more logs, use the same thread and just ping people or whatever
they won't mind
cause they're bottoms
livid crater
Really helped me start
glad to hear it :)
sterile pollen
cause they're bottoms
how did you know...
livid crater
how did you know...
honey I'm a bisexual switch, I know everything
vestal shell
haha
vestal shell
I did have one last question
livid crater
sure
vestal shell
I simmed crafted items earlier as I have a spark to use
And it suggested items not on your FAQ list
I already have the neck
Should I go with the droptimizer spark?
livid crater
uhhhhhh
vestal shell
Lemme re-sim and I'll link it
livid crater
what did it suggest?
vestal shell
Moment I'll run it again closed the tab in error
livid crater
usually it's like dagger ilvl > lariat > flaring cowl
for most people
but if you have an absolute dogshit ring or something
vestal shell
No I have the amazing ring
livid crater
then a ring will be good simply because of the upgrade
vestal shell
that gives shielding on fire damage
livid crater
yeah just as an example I mean
vestal shell
Sim almost done
livid crater
like hypothetically if you still were holding onto a 380 piece of gear, a 418 crafted piece would obviously crush everything
so that throws people off a lot of the time
livid crater
I mean on paper
probably a better short-term upgrade to use a spark on something to upgrade a slot with a bad item right
long term you would want to use a spark on a cowl, and then remove the fang from your weapon
but the stuff you linked aren't embellished right
so you can just straight equip them
so it's basically a give/take situation
you can either spend the spark on something now that you'll replace sooner rather than later
or you can spend the spark on something that's "worse" right now, but you won't replace
vestal shell
Regarding the fang, did I fuck up there?
vestal shell
Wasn't keen to replace the headpiece I now have as I think it's one of the BIS as it's crit/mastery? (could be wrong there).
livid crater
the thing is that sparks are sparse to begin with right, so we wanted to craft a dagger for the ilvl anyway, and we could do a little two bird one stone situation, get the embellish on there as well, now you have an embellish and a spark taken care of early on
but as we get more sparks and can just free craft whatever
livid crater
cowl/lariat is like the end-game better choice
vestal shell
Ok I'll take the plunge and make the 405 cowl
Don't think I can make higher as I don't run 20's yet or mythic raids
livid crater
Wasn't keen to replace the headpiece I now have as I think it's one of the BIS a...
it's for sure good, but I would be a little careful with trying to just hard stack crit/mast
it's definitely good
but haste isn't too far behind, and people even want vers in high keys for things so that's not a bad stat either
vestal shell
Ok that's good to know thank you
livid crater
assassination is a weird spec in that regard because while we have "best" stats
we don't really have any bad ones either
livid crater
Don't think I can make higher as I don't run 20's yet or mythic raids
in order to make 418 crafted gear you need to run +16's
the focus's you get from m+ under that where you take 10 of them and turn it into 405 gear
its the same system
except at +16 and up, you get a purple one instead of a blue one
and the purple one is what takes it to 418
vestal shell
Ahh I'm close then, doing 15s atm
livid crater
yeah
so whenever you get a little more gear and can spam 16's
that would be the strat
vestal shell
OK great I will do that and work on my opening rotation
