#wolfgank412 - Log Review

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feral bisonBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

timid forge
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here opening a thread for you @odd zenith , just post your vod here when you have one

meager hinge
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👀

odd zenith
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and this is my sim

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i know that talents are for mythic plus but that doesent change the numbers

timid forge
odd zenith
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Can you try here maybe

timid forge
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ah you are right

odd zenith
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As long as it works

timid forge
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I dont think Im seeing major issues, you should be pressing bte instead of snd as first finisher in your opener, vanish also should have prio over dance

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I cant see from a log if you are using vanish or dance enough but I dont think you are

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vanish is almost pressed on cd for ho builds

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since you press it whenever you dont have auda or at less than max opp proc

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meaning you can press at 3 opp

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it should be on cd most of the times

odd zenith
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Hm

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Rather odd , I don't feel like my dps is quite there tho, I'm at 383ish ilvl

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And I can sustain around 30k only average plus minus

odd zenith
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Also some people told me that puzzle doesent sim correctly so maybe that's a thing too

timid forge
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well I also cant see what your talents are but for some reason you have ks + br

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which shouldnt be a thing probably

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if you are doing m+ this one need to be selected

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odd zenith
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Hm

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I was sure I was with raid talents while on dummy

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Weird

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@timid forge so all and all everything is normal and in order?

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i guess ill just keep playing and gearing up

timid forge
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there is the vanish thing

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which probably translate to dance aswell

odd zenith
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i usually first use dance

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finish it

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and then go with vanish

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next

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tho should i wait to get energy and then use those cds?

timid forge
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you should use vanish first as I said

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not dance

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vanish is used first because its on cdr

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and the rule is easier to met

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eg. no auda and less than max opp (so 3opp is fine)

odd zenith
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ye sure

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i can do that

odd zenith
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i feel like i should be doing a lot more

timid forge
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hmm, well I dont think I found anthing else that seemed wrong rotationnally

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if you provide a vod instead it might get easier

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but other than that Idk seemed fine

odd zenith
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okay,i still have a wrist item to upgrade and a better trinket,cause i cant use this puzzle box all the time

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so maybe that will fix things more

sweet flax
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I think you can use vanish more in general

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In addition to prioritizing it over dance, you can be very liberal with using it. Basically any time you would have pressed ss you can vanish into ambush instead. There are technically some additional conditions like trying to use it on low cp and make sure you have 50 energy, but it's better to use it too much than too little

odd zenith
sweet flax
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No, just when you run out of procs really

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Then, when you are using it more you can optimize further by using it just after a finisher for example

odd zenith
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Yeah that sounds about right

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I usually start using those when I don't get any more procs

timid forge
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be aware that there is a difference between "starting" to use when you have no proc which most people do but results in more ss casts, and instantly using when you have no procs

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which you should be doing

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like just losely using it when no procs, as in pressing 2/3 ss and no proccing so deciding to press vanish isnt good enough

odd zenith
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But seems like I'm performing quite bad for an outlaw rogue .. compared to other parses

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And I have no idea how and why

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When i compare other outlaws from logs to myself

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They are doing twice as much

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How..

timid forge
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you can send me a vod of your next raid

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not a log tho

odd zenith
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Ah

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I can't do vods unfortunately

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Or I could but idk how to send big files

timid forge
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you just stream on ytb or something

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with obs

odd zenith
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I could try that yeah

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But how are othee outlaws doing 60k dps with around 384 and 387 ilvl while I'm sometimes around 35k or 40k if lucky

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Tho I just compared myself with the top ranked in logs

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But still like even watching their casts for example

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Their melee attacks did way more than mine or something of that sort which is passive damage

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Their main gauge for example

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Too did twice as much

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How does that happen

timid forge
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well I cant say haha

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I watched your log already and couldnt find much

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maybe will be able to find more from a vod

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also you might be missing uptime

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from like dodging and stuff

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or just be playing slow idk

odd zenith
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Could be yeah

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I'll try and make a vod sometime around

odd zenith
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or do you want for raiding

timid forge
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m+ probably even better

odd zenith
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i still make mistakes thats for sure,here and there i miss out on ambush procs

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okay uploading now

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a long one and a disaster one lol

timid forge
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I probably wont have time today, raiding tonight and at work rn

odd zenith
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14 min and its rdy

timid forge
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but tommorow

odd zenith
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sure okay

odd zenith
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hopefully it will show you lol

timid forge
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its private

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put it unlisted

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@odd zenith

odd zenith
odd zenith
timid forge
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was about to

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just came home

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you are overall playing a bit messy, I think you have the general idea but need more practice rn, you vanish and dance usage however is not great so little reminder again:
-vanish has prio: you use at 0 auda proc and 3 or less opp proc

  • dance when vanish is on cd and you have 0 auda proc and 0 opp procs

you arent allowed to just press 4 ss in a row with vanish ready for example (something you are constantly doing), as a reminder you dont start using vanish/dance when you arent proccing, you instantly use them when you dont have a proc, its not something you just use after a few ss that didnt proc

you need to press bte on cd, too many times you just sit on it for way too long even in the opener, also bte should be your first finisher not snd, you cannot not press bte on cd even if its for 3/4 finishers, you are missing out on a lot of cdr on it

you sometimes press ss while having opp proc: reminder we send opp procs at any cps, at max -1 you just finish tho

you sometimes do "doubles finishers" like spam your dispatch button to much and end up sending 2 dispatches in a row which isnt great

keep an eye on snd you let it fall off a bit, in case you werent aware you can refresh snd before it hit 0, this on your wa means its within pandemic range and thus safe to refresh

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are you running m+ without health pots lol?

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this is a reroll btw your roll wa is not up to date

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not really a dps advice but these mobs cast piercing shards, its a frontal that destroy tanks, you can help cc some if you feel like it

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(your tank got one shot)

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@odd zenith and maybe @meager hinge I think you were interested aswell last time

odd zenith
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and the double dispatch clicking is cause my latency gets high sometimes

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goes up for few seconds and then gets normal agani

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i think its a blizzard issue cause others complained too

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but the thing about casting SS strikes way too much,its just become a habit that i need to get rid of

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need practice

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@timid forge so i use vanish and dance only when i am out of procs ?

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both opp and audacity

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i mean vanish i guess when im at 3opp or less

timid forge
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yes

odd zenith
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that makes it easier then lol

meager hinge
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Thanks that's actually useful to me as well, I tend to use a sinister prior to vanishing so this would help, btw @odd zenith what's your wa for the blade flurry, the bar thing, I like it more than mine 😄

odd zenith
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for my gameplay

odd zenith
meager hinge
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Ah I see, would you mind sending it, I'll extract what I like (unless it's private and prefer not sharing ofc) 😄

odd zenith
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its a bit private

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ah sorry,bad emoji lol

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it sucks here

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: S this is what i mean

meager hinge
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I see, no worries at all 😄

odd zenith
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let me see if i can extract only the Blade flurry tho idk how exactly

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to do it

meager hinge
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you click on the + on the package, locate the blade flurry thing > Right click export

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btw regarding the vod

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you're sometimes using pistol shot after bte w/o opp procs

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don't waste your greenskin like that

odd zenith
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ye i try to

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sometimes things get overwhelming

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so i need time i guess

meager hinge
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Yy understandable, I'm doing some of those mistakes myself nw 😄