#Servie - Log Review

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wintry gazelleBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

proud gust
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Servie - Log Review

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roll the bones uptime is really choppy

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slice and dice fell off once too

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I see you spending combo points at 4cp, 3cp, etc.

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this build should spend combo points at 7cp normally but at 6cp if broadside (from roll the bones) or fan the hammer is active

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Never below 6cp

pallid yarrow
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Hmm, that might be a big thing with me then, cos I do find myself spending at 4cp and 3cp if I feel like it might trigger a buff

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Should I try and always get it up to full even if my procs haven't triggered?

proud gust
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you finish at 7cp normally

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but if you happen to be at 6cp with broadside or FTH active

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then you finish at 6 in that moment

pallid yarrow
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Ok!

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Tbh I think one of my biggest struggles comes down to keeping track of everything

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With RtB especially

proud gust
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yeah you need to react quickly to audacity or fan the hammer

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there are times audacity is active but you press sinister strike instead of ambush

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if audacity is active then you should use ambush immediately

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unless you meet the finisher rule to use dispatch/between the eyes first

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but ambush is the highest priority combo point generator there

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similarly, there are times fan the hammer is active but again you press sinister strike

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you should consume fan the hammer immediately if audacity is not active and you are below 6cp

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pretty common mistake, defaulting to sinister strike too much

opal adder
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Thanks for this conversation. I'm in the same boat and this helps. I think i've come to the conclussion that i'm used to mashing things to always hit and i need to slow down and retrain myself to make sure i'm hitting the RIGHT things, then speed up instead of just hitting whatever because it's there.

pallid yarrow
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So it looks like my combo builder priority's rather off as well ^^' It's been taking me a while to get used to them, so I'll try and get a bit more focus on the flow of that

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I suppose the other thing that really gets me is my energy, as sometimes I can be without adrenaline rush but no procs for vanish of shadow dance

proud gust
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im seeing a decent amount of stray singular pistol shots

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oh, i know what's happening

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after casting between the eyes, pistol shot starts glowing

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because of Greenskins

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this tricks you into thinking fan the hammer is active but it's not

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cause fan the hammer also makes it glow

pallid yarrow
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Oh so that's what that is!

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I keep wondering why i sometimes get a 1 shot glow in there, that does clear that up for me

opal adder
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I realized this recently too. Really threw me off for a while.

proud gust
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unfortunately i'm not sure there is an easy way to disable that glow for the default action bars

opal adder
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There is a weak auras that only glows when fan the hammer is up

proud gust
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yeah, but the button on the action bar will still glow for greenskins

opal adder
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right

proud gust
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i just hide my action bars

pallid yarrow
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That's something else I was wondering about, are there any handy weak auras for an outlaw rogue? Only one I've found throws all the procs I'd want to see in the middle of the screen, in amongst all my bars

opal adder
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You can move them

proud gust
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a lot of people use weakauras in the middle of the screen and move/hide the action bars

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if your weakauras are showing every cooldown/buff timer nicely, then showing your action bars is just noise

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my action bars show when i mouse over them but i dont need to see them in combat

pallid yarrow
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is there an easy way to move the weak auras so I can still see my ability keys? I'd still feel a bit insecure without them haha

proud gust
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yeah weakauras can usually be dragged around

opal adder
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just open the weak auras config, select the specific one, and just click and drag

pallid yarrow
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ah perfect!

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is there anything else you can see that might need work?

proud gust
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hmmm

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now this is likely because of the previous errors lowering your energy and cp efficiency which causes lower ADR uptime

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but basically this cast per minute is about 20% lower than a standard kill

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it is difficult to say something to fix this beyond "outlaw is faced paced and you dont want to miss globals/uptime whenever possible"

pallid yarrow
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hmm, is there any outstanding casts you can see there that would be causing this? Or is it because there;s a higher sinister strike (and pistol shot from green) that's leading to the energy withdrawal overall?

proud gust
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but adrenaline rush does lower your global cooldown to 0.8s and it is surprisingly often that people dont hit things in time

proud gust
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but it also cause just be an uptime thing

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heroic terros has like 0 reason to leave melee range

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i know that's not really helpful but high actions per minute is a big part of outlaw

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it is very real to be 'not keeping up with the pace of the spec' especially if you are constantly thinking about procs and stuff

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and what to do

pallid yarrow
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No no, you've given me a lot of helpful info! I think it sounds like I need to give the practice dummy a bit more attention and try and get my muscle memory and cooldown management better when under relaxed situations, so I can deal with the more tense raid situations

proud gust
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i guess the point here is even beyond the rotation fixing, just having more muscle memory on the spec will have better results

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yea

pallid yarrow
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You've brought up a good few points I hadn't thought of as well, and I can see where they';d need work

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I'll get to work on that and see if I can get myself into a better position with it

proud gust
pallid yarrow
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Really appreciate all the help!

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Only other thing I wanna check, is my talent tree looking ok? Not sure if I can link it, but always good to make sure I'm using the right thing for raiding

proud gust
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it looks fine

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blade rush may be slightly better than ghostly strike on single target

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that is something raidbots top gear can quickly evaluate

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but you have a lot of haste so maybe not

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it is worth mentioning that you are loaded with haste

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enough that it limits how much dmg you can do compared to a better stat profile

pallid yarrow
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Would you recommend I try and get the haste value down a bit and try and get gear with more vers/mastery?

proud gust
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haste is good to a certain point but then it quickly falls off

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unfortunately it's hard to say a specific number, but raidbots top gear just tells me what pieces to wear and that's that

proud gust
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oh also you didn't have a phial

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i think

pallid yarrow
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ok! I'll try and get more focused into crit and ver if I can then ^^

proud gust
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but also of course item level is still important so its hard to gear with limited choices

pallid yarrow
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What phials would you recommend?

proud gust
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tepid

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very cheap phials

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happens to be our best

pallid yarrow
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Ok! I'll invest in some of those then!

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WHen would be the best time to pop them?

proud gust
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oh, you just have them on permanently

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it's a 30 minute buff (90 minute for alchemists)

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pretty much always have one active for keys/raids

pallid yarrow
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Oh fair enough, i didn;t realise they were that useful! I'll get some and keep that in mind then!

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Thanks so much for all the advice solo, really appreciate it, and hopefully i'll be able to improve with it!