#Deetail Log Review
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@sharp jetty @steep tapir would you be able to help this guy out
i got my hands full rn
The logs does not seem to be here.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AL4X1B7m3D68akcf
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JXkNPK6G9btVhLvB
wich one are u
I will take a look when I have some time
raiding rn
@fallen needle
MentalHenry
- dont use oils, it sucks, just use stones with agi pot always, one of ur ring isnt enchanted
- you should be pressing flag just before ur first finisher this is way to late
- In the nine: press BF as ur second global in aoe, just after ur ambush from stealth, u forgot to refresh ur bf at some point
- I dont think u are pressing ur vanish on cd
- casting sinister strike while u have a bb proc is really bad, u did it about 10 times on guardian, could have been 10 mores bb procs, if u get a bb proc you should finish if u are at 4or+ cp, and use it at 3 or less cps
- u are letting rtb fall off, try to have 100% uptime on it
- u are playing dancing steel on st(guardian) tomes are very cheap you should play BR in st
- while not as important as the things I mentioned earlier, ur opp proc usage isnt great, you should try to consume them when u are under 70ish energy, we use opp proc to manage our energy better, when u press ur opp procs at 100 energy its useless, when u dont press ur opp procs while sitting at 30 energy u are starving yourself
@fallen needle
Thanks.
A lot of improvements!
About the ring, trying to get the one to upgrade.. ๐ข
Vanish: Recently understood that you get way more buffs by vanish -> dispatch so doing that now.
Rtb, if i have a "keep" buff do i let it fall of or roll a new buff before it expires?
And Blade Flurry 100% uptime on 2+ targets is 1.prio?
if u have a good buff you wait for it to expire and recast rtb just as it expire, or just before
sometimes u just didnt reroll for like 10/5sec
blade flurry 100% uptime is first prio on 2+targets yea
Think i need a better WA for flurry
shouldnt be hard to maintain with dancing steel
u press it as it expire
same as rtb
not sure if u did that correctly hard to check in logs
Another thing, are there times when rerolling my buffs will not remove the current ones?
Or maybe a better question, when do I not vanish -> dispatch?
ok so sometimes its just a bug and rolls doesnt get rerolled, it happens, but ur buffs coming from ur conduit (from using vanish>dispatch or vanish>ambush) cto are treated differently, and if u have a higher remaining duration on ur cto buff than ur normal rtb ones it wont reroll
you still treat ur ctos buff as if they were normals buffs its not worth it to play around it
the only time we play around that, and its not that important, is when u only have ctos buffs, then u should reroll
but that doesnt happen a lot
u can ignore that for now if u dont want to bother
- while not as important as the things I mentioned earlier, ur opp proc usage isnt great, you should try to consume them when u are under 70ish energy, we use opp proc to manage our energy better, when u press ur opp procs at 100 energy its useless, when u dont press ur opp procs while sitting at 30 energy u are starving yourself
Does this mean during high energy regen we do not consume oppertunity procs?
I did not think there was this much wrong with my rotation. Thanks ๐
I will see if I can create some new logs with all this in mind ๐
exxactly
like in ur opener u are using ur opp procs very rarerly unless its a bb proc
How would I go about to check these things for myself?
did 10/11 today
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AR9garZ2KDbf18yW
im about to go to sleep, but I can explain it to u tommorow, ping me so I dont forget
@pulsar anvil completely forgot to ping you, hopefully you have not gone to sleep yet ๐
yupp, also maybe some pointer for m+ logs? if possible since I do most m+
first probably checking buffs uptimes, not close to 100% on these 2 is not that great
yeah will mostly be the same
but u can look at way more opener in a m+ log
idk why ppl dont like m+ logs
its the same really
also, do you finish a pack with full combo or should you not do that?
then I think I would go into casts > timelines
doesnt matter
here I can check soms fundamentals in the opener
like are u vanishing right in the opener?, are u using ambush on pull, are u using rtb before pulling, is flag just before ur first finisher, are u setting up bte than snd as first and second finisher?
I brainlag^^
Not used to the opener yet.
But I am to RTB prepull then ambush -> AR -> Flurry ( if aoe ) -> Vanish -> Ambush -> Bte -> new combo -> snd
atleast thats what I try to do
for example in this one I can see that u used a ss before doing vanish, ambush wich could be bad if it leads u to overcapping
yep exactly
ok next thing is something really important that u can apply to a lot of stuffs in a log review
I also think i need to revisit my keybinds... vanish on shift+x is wonky
I want to check if u are pressing ss while havijng a bb proc (or a qd proc if u were playing qd)
I go to buff
add the buff with the "+"
there I can go into casts, put the graph in the "main" window, and select sinisters strikes as cast
and I can see when u pressed ss during a certain buff window (bb in this case)
usually best to zoom in a bit to see better
so just by selecting a zone in the timeline
can see, no ss in bb buff wich is good
another interesting thing to look at is the ressource window, were u can see energy and combo points
here u want to look at things like, do u waste a lot of cp with sinister strike ? (would mean pressing ss at max cp)
and using the "add buff" I showed u earlier u can check if u are following the finisher rule
are u finishing early with bb and broadside?
things like that
This is so good I have no words, was trying to figure out how to line up buffs with casts.... but could not do it
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u can look at energy in there aswell, so can be interesting to check opp proc usage, for example here I selected opp proc and put it in the main window, and kept bb buffs at the top, I will check the naked opp shots to see if u are using them at the right energy amount (wich should be under 70ish energy)
so example
1 u used ur opp proc at kinda high energy, 2 I ignore cause u used a bb proc
rest looks fine albeit being used a bit at heigh energy sometimes
now something about outlaw that is really hard to check in logs, but a really important concept is using cds on cds
honestly this is just eye balling
I just check it in buffs generally
I think im very slow with vanish
yeah might
And i know i flag sometimes at not max cp
what I do generally is I would check one of my logs with similar time, if Im casting 2times more vanish than the guy then I know there is a problem
because I yell to myself when I do that xD
but other than that its a bit hard to know if u are pressijng on cd or not
not possible to just count the combopoints spent during flagg buff and substract that from the cd manually?
and I wouldnt start to compare logs to try to have the exact same cds cast as someone either, outlaw is rng in its nature, and someone will have more/less cdr than u
it is how it is
yeah, a bit hard
stacks stop at 30
cant know if u went over 30 for example
ahhh
but i meant resources combopoints and add the flagg as buff like you did for blunderbuss?
also I dont feel like doing exacts calculations if the guy used his second flag exactly 56.95 sec after the first one lol
xD
yerah yeah u could do that
kk
takes a lot of time tho
I mean log review can take a lot of time generally
that why I prefer vods
u instantly see every mistakes in a vod
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if the guy have a decent enough ui
I might just create a video of me doing a key, if ud watch that
would yeah
but first imma focus on getting those buffs to 100% and no waste bb
good luck!
ty ๐