#Deetail Log Review

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bronze bone
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@sinful monolith

sinful monolith
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@sharp jetty @steep tapir would you be able to help this guy out

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i got my hands full rn

fallen needle
pulsar anvil
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wich one are u

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I will take a look when I have some time

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raiding rn

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@fallen needle

fallen needle
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MentalHenry

pulsar anvil
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  • dont use oils, it sucks, just use stones with agi pot always, one of ur ring isnt enchanted
  • you should be pressing flag just before ur first finisher this is way to late
  • In the nine: press BF as ur second global in aoe, just after ur ambush from stealth, u forgot to refresh ur bf at some point
  • I dont think u are pressing ur vanish on cd
  • casting sinister strike while u have a bb proc is really bad, u did it about 10 times on guardian, could have been 10 mores bb procs, if u get a bb proc you should finish if u are at 4or+ cp, and use it at 3 or less cps
  • u are letting rtb fall off, try to have 100% uptime on it
  • u are playing dancing steel on st(guardian) tomes are very cheap you should play BR in st
  • while not as important as the things I mentioned earlier, ur opp proc usage isnt great, you should try to consume them when u are under 70ish energy, we use opp proc to manage our energy better, when u press ur opp procs at 100 energy its useless, when u dont press ur opp procs while sitting at 30 energy u are starving yourself
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@fallen needle

fallen needle
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Thanks.
A lot of improvements!

About the ring, trying to get the one to upgrade.. ๐Ÿ˜ข
Vanish: Recently understood that you get way more buffs by vanish -> dispatch so doing that now.

Rtb, if i have a "keep" buff do i let it fall of or roll a new buff before it expires?

And Blade Flurry 100% uptime on 2+ targets is 1.prio?

pulsar anvil
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sometimes u just didnt reroll for like 10/5sec

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blade flurry 100% uptime is first prio on 2+targets yea

fallen needle
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Think i need a better WA for flurry

pulsar anvil
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shouldnt be hard to maintain with dancing steel

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u press it as it expire

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same as rtb

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not sure if u did that correctly hard to check in logs

fallen needle
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Another thing, are there times when rerolling my buffs will not remove the current ones?
Or maybe a better question, when do I not vanish -> dispatch?

pulsar anvil
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ok so sometimes its just a bug and rolls doesnt get rerolled, it happens, but ur buffs coming from ur conduit (from using vanish>dispatch or vanish>ambush) cto are treated differently, and if u have a higher remaining duration on ur cto buff than ur normal rtb ones it wont reroll

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you still treat ur ctos buff as if they were normals buffs its not worth it to play around it

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the only time we play around that, and its not that important, is when u only have ctos buffs, then u should reroll

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but that doesnt happen a lot

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u can ignore that for now if u dont want to bother

fallen needle
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  • while not as important as the things I mentioned earlier, ur opp proc usage isnt great, you should try to consume them when u are under 70ish energy, we use opp proc to manage our energy better, when u press ur opp procs at 100 energy its useless, when u dont press ur opp procs while sitting at 30 energy u are starving yourself

Does this mean during high energy regen we do not consume oppertunity procs?

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I did not think there was this much wrong with my rotation. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚
I will see if I can create some new logs with all this in mind ๐Ÿ‘

pulsar anvil
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like in ur opener u are using ur opp procs very rarerly unless its a bb proc

fallen needle
pulsar anvil
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im about to go to sleep, but I can explain it to u tommorow, ping me so I dont forget

fallen needle
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@pulsar anvil completely forgot to ping you, hopefully you have not gone to sleep yet ๐Ÿ™‚

pulsar anvil
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oh yeah true

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forgot aswell

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ok so, how do I do logs reviews

fallen needle
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yupp, also maybe some pointer for m+ logs? if possible since I do most m+

pulsar anvil
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first probably checking buffs uptimes, not close to 100% on these 2 is not that great

pulsar anvil
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but u can look at way more opener in a m+ log

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idk why ppl dont like m+ logs

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its the same really

fallen needle
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also, do you finish a pack with full combo or should you not do that?

pulsar anvil
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then I think I would go into casts > timelines

pulsar anvil
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here I can check soms fundamentals in the opener

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like are u vanishing right in the opener?, are u using ambush on pull, are u using rtb before pulling, is flag just before ur first finisher, are u setting up bte than snd as first and second finisher?

fallen needle
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I brainlag^^

Not used to the opener yet.

But I am to RTB prepull then ambush -> AR -> Flurry ( if aoe ) -> Vanish -> Ambush -> Bte -> new combo -> snd
atleast thats what I try to do

pulsar anvil
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for example in this one I can see that u used a ss before doing vanish, ambush wich could be bad if it leads u to overcapping

pulsar anvil
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ok next thing is something really important that u can apply to a lot of stuffs in a log review

fallen needle
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I also think i need to revisit my keybinds... vanish on shift+x is wonky

pulsar anvil
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I want to check if u are pressing ss while havijng a bb proc (or a qd proc if u were playing qd)

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I go to buff

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add the buff with the "+"

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there I can go into casts, put the graph in the "main" window, and select sinisters strikes as cast

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and I can see when u pressed ss during a certain buff window (bb in this case)

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usually best to zoom in a bit to see better

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so just by selecting a zone in the timeline

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can see, no ss in bb buff wich is good

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another interesting thing to look at is the ressource window, were u can see energy and combo points

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here u want to look at things like, do u waste a lot of cp with sinister strike ? (would mean pressing ss at max cp)

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and using the "add buff" I showed u earlier u can check if u are following the finisher rule

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are u finishing early with bb and broadside?

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things like that

fallen needle
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This is so good I have no words, was trying to figure out how to line up buffs with casts.... but could not do it
โค๏ธ

pulsar anvil
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u can look at energy in there aswell, so can be interesting to check opp proc usage, for example here I selected opp proc and put it in the main window, and kept bb buffs at the top, I will check the naked opp shots to see if u are using them at the right energy amount (wich should be under 70ish energy)

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so example

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1 u used ur opp proc at kinda high energy, 2 I ignore cause u used a bb proc

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rest looks fine albeit being used a bit at heigh energy sometimes

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now something about outlaw that is really hard to check in logs, but a really important concept is using cds on cds

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honestly this is just eye balling

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I just check it in buffs generally

fallen needle
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I think im very slow with vanish

pulsar anvil
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yeah might

fallen needle
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And i know i flag sometimes at not max cp

pulsar anvil
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what I do generally is I would check one of my logs with similar time, if Im casting 2times more vanish than the guy then I know there is a problem

fallen needle
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because I yell to myself when I do that xD

pulsar anvil
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but other than that its a bit hard to know if u are pressijng on cd or not

fallen needle
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not possible to just count the combopoints spent during flagg buff and substract that from the cd manually?

pulsar anvil
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and I wouldnt start to compare logs to try to have the exact same cds cast as someone either, outlaw is rng in its nature, and someone will have more/less cdr than u

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it is how it is

pulsar anvil
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stacks stop at 30

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cant know if u went over 30 for example

fallen needle
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ahhh

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but i meant resources combopoints and add the flagg as buff like you did for blunderbuss?

pulsar anvil
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also I dont feel like doing exacts calculations if the guy used his second flag exactly 56.95 sec after the first one lol

fallen needle
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xD

fallen needle
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kk

pulsar anvil
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takes a lot of time tho

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I mean log review can take a lot of time generally

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that why I prefer vods

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u instantly see every mistakes in a vod

fallen needle
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๐Ÿ‘

pulsar anvil
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if the guy have a decent enough ui

fallen needle
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I might just create a video of me doing a key, if ud watch that

pulsar anvil
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would yeah

fallen needle
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but first imma focus on getting those buffs to 100% and no waste bb

pulsar anvil
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good luck!

fallen needle
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ty ๐Ÿ™‚

pulsar anvil
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and thats about it about how I do logs reviews btw

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everything that u coudl think off u can check with the methods I told u about