wow-general

[ember nest]

believe it or not outlaw is rising

but if you like to enjoy weird things and weird gearing+big burst sub is also cool

assa does its thing as always 2 min cds and execute

[sour patrol]

I only play Assassination because I'm built different

Like wrong, I think

[marsh wagon]

having daggers growing from the ends of your arms would still let you play sub, just excludes outlaw

[small basin]

Max from Liquid thinks that rogues need a better raid buff, and that atrophic poison isn’t really that good

[novel pewter]

I thought he said something more along the lines of "it's inconsistent - is there a world where they Giga buff it like Hunters Mark" not that it was bad

[small basin]

Still I think it would nice if we brought a raid wide haste buff again

[gentle frigate]

I mean what would the lore or RP justification for that be

Atrophic makes sense thematically

You could just buff it

[small basin]

I mean if you want to go the RP route just give rogues “expose armor” and it causes the target to make more crit damage from everyone

[woeful geyser]

that take is colder then the arctic

everyone knows that atrophic is dogshit

its just a spreadsheet buff

[novel pewter]

Bring back honor among thieves raid wide Crit buff

[austere hull]

yo guys, newb to wow here. Started WOW 2 weeks ago and grinded a ton had a blast. I played a ret pala and went up to 3200 rio and think its time now to switch things up. I really like how rogue looks and now im thinking what should i play assa or outlow rogue. What would you suggest a newb that has a lot of time to play the game?

[woeful geyser]

i mean, if you want a stat buff

rogue literally had a raid haste buff back in MoP and WoD

[small basin]

Yeah, swiftblades cunning

[austere hull]

i almost only play M+ tbh never raided or even tried

[woeful geyser]

the 3 specs play very different overall

[fading lynx]

such a nobrainer

[terse torrent]

what are we still holding from release, Lizzard?!

[novel pewter]

Game breaking bug free content. 👀

[terse torrent]

[austere hull]

which one would you suggest, i mean im used to ret pala its literally just press whats up on your UI

im a bit scared of assa since i have to manage bleeding

[woeful geyser]

easiest rn is probably sub

[mellow pilot]

I agree

[woeful geyser]

but like, its wow, no spec is really hard

and midnight made sure that nothing is hard at all in general

[sour panther]

Ive seen 0 good devourers

So i disagree

[small basin]

Community perception on rogues is also quite bad so that may make it a bit harder to get into pugs

[novel pewter]

Wait how lol

[sour panther]

Whenever i get a devourer they do tank dps

[steep dock]

If stuff dies fast they dont do much

[novel pewter]

Ah yeah, they do have mad ramp.

I feel like they get good starting in 15s. Before that kinda troll feeling sometimes.

[woeful geyser]

FotM spec attracts always brainlets

its a turret spec on a ADHD ADADADADADADADAD class

if you mindlessly press your spirit bomb at bad timers it can end badly

thats all a killer combination for "dumb fotm pugs that chose their spec based on a dratnos tierlist"

[novel pewter]

😂

Yeah it's kinda crazy - I could see bad ones just absolutely being worthless.

The Giga damage though. Mines like ilvl 265 and when I get rolling and popping 400k collapsing stars it's legit so much damage lol

[gentle frigate]

Devourer has spirit bomb?

https://tenor.com/view/genki-dama-spirit-bomb-goku-gif-12526925

Ngl I’ve always found wow classes to be easy

Just download WA pack (in the past) go look at icy veins.

Pump

IMO if you can play one melee you can play them all and same with ranged.

[noble kestrel]

rogue tank spec

[hexed gull]

hello, how it seems about +9-13 keys for sub vs outlaw? Are they both ok now for casual to play or is there some better option

[rare solar]

Or keep pulling shit and killing themselves

[novel pewter]

Honestly I get it having played the spec.

That 4s collapsing star cast will go off. 😂

It's like zdps zdps zdps - star hits and now you're at the top of the meter - zdps zdps zdps

Lol

[rare solar]

Its always the void ray

[novel pewter]

Greeding for void ray 100% not worth. Lol

[oak tartan]

!addons

[terse torrent]

https://giphy.com/gifs/news-march-on-washington-1963-IArfvsrvQt5JF4KPhR

[mellow pilot]

Does pandaria have a TW raid?

it does not right?

[red socket]

Does Sub have more sustain than Outlaw due to Exhilarating Execution?

[noble kestrel]

Nope 🙁

[fringe umbra]

And fade to nothing, and now we can also have ephemerald bond

But yes

A bit more tanky than the other specs

[sour patrol]

If they add one I would want Throne of Thunder, but we all know it would be Siege of Orgrimmar

[jagged whale]

Anyone successfully done a recraft since tuesday? mine ate my bracers lol so i'm tentative to do my other pieces but i havent seen or heard any updates from blizzard but see loads of people poting for them in trade, so maybe fixed?

[primal dome]

is anyone having issues on salhadaar where you cant hit the orbs bc you are either "too far out of range" or some shit

[onyx ferry]

Have you tried getting into range?

[primal dome]

felt like i was in range here

[rare solar]

the hitbox on them doesnt feel great tho

[primal dome]

i guess i am in the middle of it

[main pulsar]

Yay... At least combat is getting some love.

[surreal void]

do you have to spend your 2 bonus rolls each week? or will you be able to get 2 more for 4 next week?

[plush dune]

there doesnt seem to be a limit on how many you can hold

[shut spade]

NO LIE

i missed some globals

because of that

im glad im not crazy

[primal dome]

I muted the audio but this was 2.5 hours into soul crushing prog on that boss and I slammed my desk so hard when it happened rip

[shut spade]

hahaha

i noticed that Cloak doesnt immune some of the damage sources in that fight too

[primal dome]

Yeah it’s hella annoying

[cerulean rune]

LIFE IS GOOD

IT'S SO WORTH LIVING

[candid quartz]

Can u use both rolls on the same dungeon?

[lavish steeple]

Happens 30 seconds in, imagine being in the white car

[halcyon lagoon]

whats the snapshot for the bonus roll refund? we know yet?

[oak tartan]

No but you can run any dungeon as often as you like

Like you have 4 bonus rolls and need puzzle box, so you run it 4 times and get all 4 items out of 6 you don't need, true story

[halcyon lagoon]

wait we get 2 more rolls every week?

like I get 4 rolls next week???

[meager totem]

no, its just their cap

so if you make an alt 2months from now you can get 16 rolls insta or whatever

[halcyon lagoon]

ah ok

makes sense

[main orbit]

guy is there a guide how to gear up? on a fresh alt?

[mellow pilot]

Delves 8 bountiful
Prey system
M0s with friends if available
M+ with friends
Raid

[bright otter]

wanted to say Youtube but Royal got you

[inland gale]

Think the new void assault event is probably good

[mellow pilot]

Oh right I haven't even done those yet, maybe once?

Thanks for the heads-up

[noble kestrel]

I keep forgetting too

[mellow pilot]

The void scenario things are eh, whatever, easy I guess. The void assaults are "follow the crowd" type of event

[idle cipher]

Hi, when i search for mythic Raid, every group has a note like "CE [...]" what does CE mean?

[tough swallow]

cutting edge

[halcyon lagoon]

how many Flux should we have if we are not in 4s yet? 3 ? its 1 every 2 weeks and we are in week 5 right? so no chance it drops anywhere if you aint got 4s yet right?

[tough swallow]

which means, mythic clear

cutting edge is the achivement you get when clearing mythic

ahead of the curve or curve for heroic

[idle cipher]

CE = curved for mythic

ye

ty^^

[bright otter]

it's 3 + the one for curve/2k/pvp rating

[halcyon lagoon]

OH I forgot about the 2k bonus

its per char right?

[bright otter]

ye

[halcyon lagoon]

gonna get that then

4s so good for sub :3

[gentle frigate]

Why delve 8? Is it hero track

[mellow pilot]

Champion loot with key

Map hero

[gentle frigate]

What’s a map?

[mellow pilot]

An item you can get inside the delve that will guarantee your next delve (sometimes even the delve you're in) to give you a more powerful loot. If you use it in a delve 8 or above it awards you an hero item

So you can get 1 champion (bountiful chest) + 1 hero (map)

You can only get 1 map quest per week

[upper veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-pickuplines-map-do-you-have-a-map-lost-gif-4084266

[fallow canyon]

!fuu

[ionic forum]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund patrol]

in midnight you can get a delve map from the prey hunt weekly quest

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=94446/a-nightmarish-task

[mellow pilot]

In this case you get the beacon, which you can use to summon the delve nemesis, defeat it, earn a map

[noble kestrel]

delve nemesis in a delve drops another champ piece, too

so it's big good value

2x champ, 1x hero in a single T8

[rotund patrol]

ye

[final yoke]

Is there a way to improve fps on a march raid?

Other then buying more ram

[ruby linden]

Ctrl S

It’s a sound channel related bug so doing that or just unchecking enable sound fixes the fps drop bug

Or reducing sound channels to 32 down from 90 I guess

[tight edge]

Is that the reason i dont hear stealth sound anymore?

[ruby linden]

Nope

Wasn’t working on Wed but it was working yesterday for me

Separate issue me thinks

[tight edge]

Ah, wasnt working for me in raid yesterday. But maybe its being worked on

[ruby linden]

But it definitely was one bc I literally couldn’t tell apart if I was stealthed or not in some places

[tight edge]

Yeah same

[ruby linden]

I do hope they fix the moq bug bc we eventually just play with sounds toggled after x wipes and like wtf 😭🫩

Lazy to relog

[gentle frigate]

Why is Reddit posting that the patch was done with AI

[mellow pilot]

Reddit

[marsh wagon]

It feels a lot like claude ai slop to me

[gloomy axle]

wtf is up with this

[ruby linden]

There’s an app? Why

[quasi whale]

Guys do we have any info if crafting is fixed ? I saw people talking from wednesday they are lossing mats and crests without receiving the item, or the items are downgraded for no reason

[main orbit]

Do you live log ? 😂

[main orbit]

For Live logging to play with 30 fps

[ruby linden]

Again why

Obs studio clears anything

[main orbit]

Since when does obs live log ?

[ruby linden]

What is live log

[main orbit]

How do you get Logs ?

[ruby linden]

Just something wcl uploader does?

Memory leak moment then ig okay

[main orbit]

Theres more in the world

Then wcl

Manually

Raider io

Etc..

Just people with Wood pc play the Game hes Running on 90% ram

[ruby linden]

I dislike archon, I don’t know rio had an ap lol

[main orbit]

16gb

So 2012

[ruby linden]

It’s still a leak

[steep dock]

Just close raider.io?

[uncut lion]

guys for 17+ keys , assa or outlaw?

[mellow pilot]

Yes

[errant sandal]

No

[ruby linden]

Maybe

[woeful geyser]

perhaps

[tight edge]

î bought 32gb ram in november, almost ruined me

[ruby linden]

The ram I bought in 2024 is 4x price rn

[woeful geyser]

i would not doxx myself like that

now they will come for you

[tight edge]

who

the taxman?

[mellow pilot]

No

The muffin man

[tight edge]

but yeah i certainly picked the wrong time to do a full pc upgrade, but it was worth it

[gentle frigate]

I had to upgrade ram to 32gb recently too

A bunch of games were just crashing due to no memory and wow was running me to 95% usage

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-king-finances-recovering-ruined-money-gif-3010668295717914484

[pine granite]

uhm... is it normal to go through almost 2 daggers during a mythic + dungeon? - rest of my gear is +50% durability, all 80 durability on 1 dagger, had one on bad still and switched offhand to mainhand and equiped offhand with bag dagger (btw didnt know that works still but hey) - Now after the key... my mainhand dagger lost all 80 dura in 1 key... and my "offhand" is down to 2/80

[woeful geyser]

there is something weird going in with durability in midnight

MM Hunters also shred trought bow durability like crazy, and prot paladin/prot warrior shields lose like 8% durability on each pull they do in a m+ dungeon lol

[pine granite]

so... have replacement daggers on bag if blizz decides to be strange again

[fringe umbra]

Idk about those, but for rogue (and sub especially) we have an insane amount of attack speed increases now

And every attack has a small chance to remove one durability (scaling with weapon speed)

So when you attack way faster than your original weapon speed you lose durability faster, and with BL up as sub (if you have warning signs talented, which most had until this week) you have like 330% increased attack speed

[pine granite]

🤏

but thanks... I'll have hammers in my inv now

[gentle frigate]

Average outlaw player

[sour patrol]

[final yoke]

oh thanks I will check that

[stiff wraith]

anyone having issues with MSUF, Ayije CDM or m33kauras? My game is freezing on some encounters and laggy on raid boss fights. Not sure if its these addons ive added recently or the new patch

seems like it may be MSUF causing it

[steep dock]

more like sub at this point

[torpid harness]

Have they said anything about recrafts yet

[tough swallow]

most people who recrafted had no issues

[mellow pilot]

not the same topic but i'm embracing your spec

Feels like i'm playing DF s1 again

[tough swallow]

nice

the bugs are a bit annoying

[mellow pilot]

without shuriken storm and a bunch of other macros

[tough swallow]

but outside of that, its simple and fun

[torpid harness]

Gambling time I guess

[mellow pilot]

distract is annoying but premed "fix" it

[mellow pilot]

Btw fuu a question

Why does shadowstrike works from meld, clearly a bug, right?

[tough swallow]

its just how meld works

you can even go stealth from meld

[mellow pilot]

that i knew

but meld isn't stealth

[tough swallow]

its a bit strange that its not full stealth

[torpid harness]

I recrafted

812 crit, 687 haste, 831 mastery with only oils now

Could recraft the rest of my gear too but idk, I'm thinking maybe a bit of a balance isn't such a bad idea

[tough swallow]

sounds good

[worthy bloom]

Which one of the rogues is more fun to play?

[torpid harness]

Gotta be sub right

I'm not biased

[inland gale]

that's probably subjective

[torpid harness]

SUBjective

[worthy bloom]

I was playing sub but im quite sad pressing two buttons

[inland gale]

TRUE

[torpid harness]

2 buttons

[worthy bloom]

lmao

[torpid harness]

[worthy bloom]

jk, but i feel like it's a burst class

[torpid harness]

I'm getting baited

[torpid harness]

Yeah but I prefer that

[worthy bloom]

it's very punitive when wrong buttons are press

i didn't like it too much

this small sd windows and stuff

[torpid harness]

I love it

What a thrill

With darkness and silence through the niiight

[worthy bloom]

Assa is cool?

[torpid harness]

It's good in keys and on some fights

[worthy bloom]

i only play m+

[torpid harness]

But tbh can prolly be played wherever at this point

Then Assas is a good choice

[worthy bloom]

i saw that outlaw is very good right now

unfortunatelly all my stats are haste mastery

[torpid harness]

Assas is crit/haste if I'm not mistaken or at least it was last I played it

[worthy bloom]

yeah both outlaw and assa

crit haste

[whole linden]

EU DC?

[gloomy hare]

is eu down ?

[whole linden]

Jinx

u owe me a flask

[noble kestrel]

Seems fine to me.

Maybe login server again?

[gloomy hare]

stuck on this

[fossil storm]

yeah dcd in raid, same screen

[grizzled fjord]

Yep

[gloomy hare]

ah min now

[noble kestrel]

I'm hanging out in Silvermoon and it's fine. Maybe it's instance servers?

[gloomy hare]

ah im in

[grizzled fjord]

How about you restart your game, GESTALT

[noble kestrel]

no

[grizzled fjord]

ok

[noble kestrel]

i'm very busy doing toher things like making a beetroot risotto with caramalized walnuts and beetroot crisps.

[grizzled fjord]

So not playing WoW

[noble kestrel]

candied walnuts, not caramalized

[grizzled fjord]

Close it then buddy

See what happens

[noble kestrel]

if I log off, people will be sad that Purrcival isn't there

[grizzled fjord]

Oh shit yeah true

[tough swallow]

serevrs had a hickup

quick the game

restart the client

wait for the small update

tho i am stuck in loading screen now

it loaded a bit longer than usual, but works

[tight edge]

cant even back out from it

ok seems to be working now

[harsh mason]

Hello guys

Is the new system great to gear alts ?

The ritual sites

[mellow pilot]

isnt bad yeah

[pulsar creek]

do we already know how the bonus rolls works and if it might be bugged? Is it confirmed that I cant get the same items 2 times in a row or does this only applies for raid loot?

[onyx ferry]

They fixed it and you will now not get duplicates in dungeons

[pulsar creek]

great

[gloomy axle]

i got 32gb ram, had a bunch of other bs running in the background 😄

[harsh mason]

Do you know what the best way is ?

I'm leveling my paladin and just hit 90 right now

i feel like the price for champion gear is so low it seems worth

but it's random pieces

[hot cobalt]

Which is the best m+ specc for rogue right now on 14+? Is it sub and later outlaw? Or completly outlaw?

[sharp rain]

best spec for raid? sub or outlaw?

[formal fulcrum]

Sub outlaw assa all really good

[onyx marten]

how do you guys normally do your interrupts? in the past I used mouseover but for some reason in big packs I seem to hit the wrong mob more often than I used to, do y'all use mouseover, click the mob and interrupt, or use a focus macro?

[marsh wagon]

I have a focus macro that also does a target marker, but it also kicks my target if I have no focus, and kicks my mouseover if my focus is dead

Helps I tend to only run with mostly coordinated groups, so we all pick a maker and have mostly assigned kicks

[onyx marten]

yeah that sounds helpful, but the marker might confuse people for me since I normally pug keys

I'll try the focus macro though and see if that solves my issue, thank you

[marsh wagon]

/focus [@mouseover,exists,nodead] []
/tm [@focus] 2

That sets my focus and marks with circle

Then:
/cast [@focus,harm][] Kick

Guess I took the mouseover kick off because things got wonky with my unit frames

[onyx marten]

#showtooltip Kick
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Kick
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Kick
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack

I found this one that the person said would kick your focus target, and if the focus target is dead it will tab target for you and kick the next target that is casting, do you think that would work?

[marsh wagon]

Idk how it would know something is casting

[onyx marten]

I hadn't tried it but i read people saying if you tab while something is casting it will tab to the mob that is casting

[carmine mirage]

Not automatically no, but there's a decent chance it will.

I heard something similar and I believe that's intended by default, but not a sure thing.

[brisk juniper]

skis and mounts are account shared? or only at character you have it

[woeful geyser]

yes, mounts and stuff is acc wide

[pale plover]

from what addon are those strings? it was send to me when i neeeding help on paladins, but i have no idea what addon this belong to "EncounterID:3180;Difficulty:Mythic;Name:Lightblinded Vanguard time:70;ph:1;tag:everyone;text:bellamy; time:132;ph:1;tag:everyone;text:bellamy; time:193;ph:1;bossSpell:1248644;tag:everyone;text:senn; time:267;ph:1;bossSpell:1246765;tag:everyone;text:venel; time:329;ph:1;bossSpell:1258514;tag:everyone;text:senn; time:390;ph:1;tag:everyone;text:senn;"

[quasi oasis]

that's an NSRT assignments note

[pale plover]

thank you viper

[compact rampart]

yo this shit so cool

[steep dock]

Pangolins are cool, I agree

[static epoch]

ok what the fuck
how long has this been a problem for DK, like a month? two months? was it really a problem, even, since it was mass-applied by an AoE ability anyway?

meanwhile DSM has been fucked up for almost two years now and the best they can do is a bandaid

[remote verge]

thats what active development gets you

[woeful geyser]

since beta iirc

[plush dune]

its ok blizzard will eventually relearn this same lesson enough times for it to stick

[restive sorrel]

Does anyone know of the recrafting bug has been fixed for this patch? I might have missed an update

[woeful geyser]

you mean how they made disc priest a absorb based healer again

🙂

[plush dune]

[delicate monolith]

is there a way to remove chains from seat of triunvirate?

from the mobs before first boss

[woeful geyser]

vanish and cloak

[plush dune]

and someone else can use freedom or tigers lust on you

anything that removes slows will remove the chains

[stiff wraith]

alright where tf is the Midnight Simple Unit Frames Discord? I cant find it and I'm having some issues lol

[spare iron]

Its wild that there are people who have gotten 6 voidcores

[gray niche]

Chat what spec are we playing in M+?

[restive sorrel]

How?

[remote verge]

blizzard can't seem to fix shit without screwing people over

[restive sorrel]

2 first then refund 2?

Are they getting double refund ?

[spare iron]

3 first then 3 refund

[remote verge]

if you got a 3rd from vault

[restive sorrel]

Ah

[remote verge]

like they could of easily checked logs to see if you got a duplicate and refunded those people but they threaded the needle of the worst possible solution

but idk if the ai bot they use to develop the game could do that level of coding

[clever osprey]

not sure if this is the place to ask, but i've only even learned sub rogue, is it worth learning assa/outlaw as the "meta" changes?

[remote verge]

they all have different stat prios, so it is worth knowing how to play them, but you may want to start looking to build sets for them first

[marsh wagon]

man i was super confused here for a second...

[golden vale]

They are all crit haste now actually

[final token]

Its kinda crazy cause my monk alt is gonna become like 3 ilvl more then my main rogue xd cause i was like why not spend the voidcores on m+ on monk

[ember nest]

im super gilded gated

[torpid harness]

6 voidcores wtf

I'm over here like

[native cypress]

Has anyone got their voidcores back already?

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, I've had mine refunded.

[mellow pilot]

Hopefully I get mine too, since double rings from pit ain't it

[noble kestrel]

ain't it indeed

[restive sorrel]

Yea

[thorny ice]

is ariborne irritant not working for orbs this week?

[mellow pilot]

target a mob that can be blinded

not the orbs

mob that can be blinded - will spread

orb - will disappear and not spread

[static epoch]

it never did, you can't explode a mass of orbs unless you ping it off a real mob

[thorny ice]

got it, kinda stupid but gotta make due

thanks

[halcyon lagoon]

u can bonus roll if you have ID right?

[oak tartan]

M+ has no id and mythic raid id is fixed, can't repeat a boss

[halcyon lagoon]

and HC ?

[oak tartan]

I wouldn't roll in hc, first boss and dreamrift are pugable

[wanton rivet]

when did you roll ?

[thorny ice]

wait did some people actually get 3 void cores extra besides the two they used?

the rich get richer

[mellow pilot]

i got my roll back. first roll (pit ring) was on reset day

[halcyon lagoon]

I used 1 and got 1

[mellow pilot]

second roll was yesterday

[halcyon lagoon]

so have 2 again

[mellow pilot]

yesteday's loot table is the riggt (fixed) one

[austere hull]

anyone running timewalkings for alt leveling? and wanna join? we are 2/5

[thorny ice]

man this sucks i didnt get to play first few days after reset

now if youre not actually lebron james of wow im NOT getting into 12+ keys 🙁

[halcyon lagoon]

wait u can get Mythic from Delves now?

Tier 13 is a thing?

[oak tartan]

Didn't even know tier 12 was a thing

[halcyon lagoon]

dafuq is Tier 13 ??? how do I even have 12??

[hearty fog]

what ilvl does it say it'll drop

[mellow pilot]

new scenario events

[halcyon lagoon]

272

so its mythicis guess hha

[hearty fog]

dang

wait

thats going to be myth delve gear

hmmmmmmmm

[halcyon lagoon]

no idea how I get to Tier 13 - completed tier 5 with 4 affixes

[halcyon lagoon]

its not that bad if you need set pieces

like to transform

[mellow pilot]

there isnt

its a bugf

its maxed to 4/6 hero from what the wowhead post reported

https://www.wowhead.com/news/get-greater-great-vault-rewards-from-ritual-sites-in-12-0-5-381347

[brisk juniper]

do u need to be 90 to get Field Accolades? from void assaults?=

[gentle frigate]

I keep getting leather pieces on my warrior

I think its a sign

[obsidian hedge]

yea

[gentle frigate]

For some reason unknown to man blizzard locked the assaults to 90

Add it to the list of things that are wrong with this patch

[jade tulip]

Hii,, quick question. What is the recomended spec now for mythic raid prog? Currently on vealgor. Seems like outlaw is strongest but on later bosses there are not many parses yet

[sullen elm]

Is the void assaults any good for leveling alts? Or his spam time walking?

[rose valve]

Since my bonus rolls seems to have been reverted even thought I used it on a boss - that means I will have 2 of them for our next clear. Can I use both of them after 1 kill or does it need to be seperate kills?

[fringe umbra]

You cannot use two on the same boss kill or dungeon run no

[gentle frigate]

you cant do them below 90 because blizz is dumb

[ruby yarrow]

Well that would now make delve pants bis if we can get myth on them for sin so thats interesting

[winter compass]

question about bonus roll: next week we get +2 cap... this means we will be able to buy 2 more or 4 more next week?

[fringe umbra]

Its always 2 per week

[marsh wagon]

2 per week, with one you can get from bad luck protectioon coins from the vault

[winter compass]

got it, ty

[stray eagle]

Is aoe blind supposed to not work on xalatath affix or am I doing something wrong?

[mellow pilot]

target a mob that can be blinded, not the orbs

if you use it on an orb, it disappears and the AoE part wont spread

[steep dock]

orb doesnt have eyes

[deft gulch]

no 12s and 13 still drop hero it drops 269 ilv

[steep dock]

if delves dropped myth people wouldnt do m+ much

[deft gulch]

i wouldnt be surprised if they dropped 1 myth piece a week for that mega delve they sopose to give us later on the expansion tho

[novel cipher]

Basically what royal said: just bounce the blind off your current target and treat it as not your problem if the pull isn't anywhere near the proximity of the orbs

[golden vale]

If they keep this bonus roll system going I can totally see them giving myth track bonus rolls on the mega delve

[deft gulch]

yeah or like regular delves where you summon the boss and get a chance at getting 1 myth item a week at the end like the maps thingy

[novel cipher]

But another, very relevant piece of what royal said is important too: the mob needs to be blindable @stray eagle

[woeful geyser]

thats....not really true but ok?

like both sides there are just wrong

[marsh wagon]

Clearly it's plains vs swamps and mountains

[novel cipher]

Everyone always forgets about desert 🙁

[noble kestrel]

yeah, each of them was actually <X> versus Gestalt. And I won

[neat scarab]

Making a rouge alt for m+ and pvp, which specs should I play? Pretty new to the game also

[mellow pilot]

Any of the three

[neat scarab]

Which would you say is in the best spot/easiest to learn

[mellow pilot]

Sub

Can't get simpler than that

[neat scarab]

Sweet ty

[fickle vigil]

Is there any info how we get back the void cores spend for reroll if you used them before the fix?

[noble kestrel]

They will just appear in your inventory / mail if they have eben refunded. Mine were just back when I logged in.

[mellow pilot]

same

[fickle vigil]

Hmm didnt get any (used both after reset). Ticket i guess.

[serene vortex]

used 3 got only 2 back bliz scammed

think ill have to make a ticket

[mellow pilot]

did you use the third after the fix?

[gentle frigate]

Join the dark side and become an Outlaw gamer

[sudden hamlet]

we get 2 voidcore a week?

without vaulted ones

[mellow pilot]

yes

[sudden hamlet]

thinking of taking a mythic hand/shoulder or just spamming voidcores from vault

2 a week is pretty nice

[halcyon sluice]

So which spec would everyone say is performing the best rn? Just saw an Assassination pumping 200k plus on Chimaerus and its got me wondering

[mellow pilot]

you can check warcraftlogs.com

[night arch]

Anyone else that've still gotten duplicates from bonus-rolls? Is this intended after we got 1 for free?

[mellow pilot]

the fix is fixed

the loottable before the fix was not the right one

now that they fixed it, and gave you back the bonus rolls, you will have the original loottable

aka you could get item A before the fix and again item A after the fix

[night arch]

thanks

damn

[mellow pilot]

in theory, you can't get that cloak anymore, post fix

some people will be lucky and never have goten dups

you and me did, unfortunately

[marsh wagon]

I think the bug is that the drops weren't getting registered in whatever table they were using to prevent the duplicate.

[mellow pilot]

exactly

[sudden hamlet]

yo can anyone leather craft on mal ganis somehow i cannot find a single soul

[mellow pilot]

this isnt your trade chat

so no

[sudden hamlet]

im trying everything this is brutal

[mellow pilot]

swap to another character, different faction

[meager totem]

yeah trade chat is faction based so on some realms its just going to be dead on the other faction

[onyx ferry]

People who got extra rolls back did they just end up in your inventorty?

[mellow pilot]

directly into the currency tab

[onyx ferry]

Were they only refunding if you spent both of them? Cause that isn't how I read the thing

[marsh wagon]

They were refunding only if you'd spent before the fix. Which was them fixing the bad luck protection tracking

[keen lily]

do you still get myth crests from tier 11 bountifuls if you dont have any restored keys?

trade chat is giving conflicting info

[onyx ferry]

Yes. I spent one before the fix

[mellow pilot]

Just do one and check

You can only open 4 either way

[meager totem]

its a seperate chest right? so key shouldnt be needed but you can only do 4 a week

[mellow pilot]

Best change they did actually

From 3 to 4

[plush dune]

how is it a good change

you get fewer crests and have to do more delves

[mellow pilot]

Leaving you at 3/4 delves for vault was a pain in the ass

And the crest difference is a single 1

From 7/7/7 to 5/5/5/5

[plush dune]

im still failing to see what the good change was

[oak tartan]

I never got any mythic crests from tier 11 delves

But running less delves would be better

[river lynx]

how easier to up a char right now?

[fading path]

i got my brewmaster monk from fresh 90 to 245 in less than a day doing 4 bountiful delves + 1 map, 3 nightmare preys (2 for gear, the 3rd for crests), and 2 m+ dungeons (+2 and +5)

0 crests spent and 0 crafts done

if you really grind it out you could probably hit 260+ in a day or less

[tidal grotto]

Just asking here because i havent found any info confirming this. With the bonus rolls being refunded, does the loot table also reset? I rolled the ooze trinket off chimaerus on patch day. and had my cores refunded. Will the ooze trinket show up on the loot table again going into raid next reset?

[meager totem]

yes it will

[tidal grotto]

Pray for my vault then 🙏

[wooden crane]

hey guys, what rogue spec you reccomend for a main tank?
i want idk... the easiest one?

[faint river]

Sub

[wooden crane]

oh no... those used to be cool but now everythingt can be sheated in the back x.x

[mellow pilot]

Yey for more options

[old parcel]

Ey, does it really matter if an enchant is offhand vs mainhand? Like will it proc less if it’s on your offhand? Or is it all the same?

[noble kestrel]

It doesn't matter.

[old parcel]

Bless thanks!

[novel cipher]

I don't think that takes away from their coolness. They still morph shape and have a unique model

[green summit]

Of all the rogue specs, which one would do best with the single action button?

[torpid harness]

BM Hunter

[green summit]

ok, now of the 3 rogue specs

[torpid harness]

Retri paladin

[green summit]

so I'm guessing they are all bad, but which one is least bad

and not even guessing, I know they are all bad

[torpid harness]

[green summit]

but just wondering

[torpid harness]

Why not test it

[green summit]

I figured I could save myself the time

if someone already did, or knew

[torpid harness]

I see

[green summit]

and isn't a troll by naming different classes

[torpid harness]

I'm trying my best

[green summit]

I feel for you if that's your best

[torpid harness]

y u booli

[green summit]

booli vs booli

[torpid harness]

i no booli

[sharp wasp]

Are these hours rogue chatters super degen americans or super studious and productive europeans pepehmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[green summit]

EU.

also it's lunch time, what are you implying

[sharp wasp]

My fault og

[torpid harness]

EU. Also it's vibing time, what are you imploding

[sharp wasp]

Oh yoru you’re EU as well?

[torpid harness]

Yes king

[sharp wasp]

Dude i thought u were a relatable degen NA like me

One of us one of us

[torpid harness]

Sorry just a relatable EU degen like you

[sharp wasp]

[green summit]

I'm too old for this shit

[torpid harness]

Same

Yet here we are

[sharp wasp]

Tbh when i picture a rogue i picture some czech guy

Facts keep up the good work fellas

[torpid harness]

https://giphy.com/gifs/poirot-the-queue-has-awoken-its-heard-masters-call-really-excited-for-this-re-watch-so-8fpmrXnYkU1Ec

[green summit]

I picture myself, but then younger and back in like TBC

[torpid harness]

I miss season 3

Back in da good ole days

[green summit]

man

[torpid harness]

Vibing in arena

[green summit]

ikr

[torpid harness]

My resto druid being the best healer I've ever seen in my life

I was arms warrior

Killing people by accident

[green summit]

I was rogue, I always am rogue

[sharp wasp]

Bro what happened… inverse twink death

[green summit]

I have a rogue tattoo

[sharp wasp]

Chad death into twink revival

[green summit]

It's of a rogue in stealth

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-john-cena-gif-18864860

[sharp wasp]

Actually the icon would be a sick tat

[green summit]

lemme find a pic

best I could find

[sharp wasp]

Way bigger than i thought damn

Nooiiiice

[green summit]

On my big fat calf

[sharp wasp]

Ik that mf hurt

[green summit]

not really

the other leg has the inside of the knee tatted. That hurts.

cannot recommend

[sharp wasp]

I have on there too, yeah its bad

Worst still is on back

[green summit]

Chest is not great either

arms and legs are mostly fine

[sharp wasp]

Arms are cake

[torpid harness]

I always wanted to try playing Rogue and last time I did I was pvping in wod without comms and boosting healers in 2v2 for the luls

So now I wanted to play Rogue again but PvE

[sharp wasp]

Honestly W pivot

Warrior in pve is kinda bedge

[torpid harness]

I mean

Back then my resto druid was raiding heroic (which was like mythic now) and dragging me to her guild's raids because she knew I'd just be standing around in org staring into the distance until she was done

And I'd outdps the pvers without hitcap, they only flamed me about that once before raid

Glad weapons early in season were ridiculously OP in PvE

[sharp wasp]

Oh yeah youre a super duper og unc

[torpid harness]

Yeah, TBC and wotlk, then I quit until wod, played rogue pvp for the luls, then quit

Until 1 week and a half into midnight

[green summit]

played since 2004, first day of vanilla.

[torpid harness]

I was late to the vanilla party but I was there, think I was a few months late

[sharp wasp]

HLY

[green summit]

I'm 40 years old man

[torpid harness]

My first character was vanilla retri paladin and I was so confused why it was taking me so long to level up

Nobody told me

[green summit]

I still play my rogue from back then

[sharp wasp]

Apologies for not calling you sir earlier sir

[green summit]

you god damn right

[sharp wasp]

[torpid harness]

Call him da- nvm

[green summit]

no

[torpid harness]

[sleek reef]

Is there any cool tech (not necessarily rogue specific) to deal with Runic Glaives from the Spellbreaker in MGT? Looks like the last two, right before boss, is a lust pull for most high keys? We can Cloak one, Vanish one. Any comp specific tricks? Damn things are starting to hurt 🤔

[torpid harness]

Get bigwigs and change the sound for when something is under you to "run away little girl (big bad wolf)"

[sleek reef]

Oh, we got that on lock already, I'm talking about the debuff that lands on two people in the tiny hallway before Seranel.

[torpid harness]

Oh

[barren ledge]

run elusiveness instead of cheat and or meld

[sleek reef]

I am

[torpid harness]

Save cloak for it

Vanish might help a li'l bit too

[sleek reef]

Yeah, as a rogue, as I see it, we can mitigate two. That's it though, right?

[torpid harness]

I mean I guess it is yeah

[barren ledge]

you should be able to live through them with just feint if youre not doing a 20+ with alot of healer help

[sleek reef]

I find that like two out of three healers have immense struggles at like +16/17

But doesn't seem common for pugs to lust on the pull with two of the mobs in there

Maybe prio one down would help a lot too

[barren ledge]

yeah its a hard pull for them, it should be a lust pull

[sleek reef]

Don't think most pugs consider that

Cool, cool. Appreciate the perspective!

[mellow pilot]

I've no idea if it was answered already since I'm just now reading chat. Wowhead says the % loss of each spec using obr

[green summit]

I couldn't find it on Wowhead, but no I didnt really get an answer yet 🙂

[hearty fog]

!guide

[ionic forum]

Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides

[hearty fog]

hm

it should be on wowhead

i cant find it as well anymore

[mellow pilot]

@tough swallow

Did you guys take down the one button rotation part of the guide?

The % losses

[tough swallow]

the obr loss was removed

but given the higher gcd

and the amount of optimization, obr

should be fairly bad

let me quick do a sim

[mellow pilot]

Thank you fuu

@green summit

[tough swallow]

simulation

simulation

simulation

This is only the additional global cooldown added

it does not account for missing optimizations, and assumes you use your major cooldowns/tinkets/etc correct

so can assume the result to be ~2-4% worse than the simulations

[green summit]

Thanks Fuu 🙂

It verifies my thoughts though. The faster the playstyle the more loss of dps

My daughter will just have to play BM hunter then.

[tough swallow]

outlaw is kinda gcd capped

[green summit]

I cant even play outlaw effectively

[tough swallow]

so it makes sense that you diretcly make the spec worse if you increase the gcd

[green summit]

absolutely, freaking wack-a-mole spec

[tough swallow]

haha

its just, you use lets say 30% less spells

or 20%

it will impact your output more

[green summit]

Sub seems fine, but it's also a really easy spec to play so no need for SBA

[tough swallow]

compared to specs which have natural downtime

subtlety gets punished for obr becuause of gcds in dance

you lose casts during dance

[green summit]

true

thanks a lot for giving me an idea at least

[tough swallow]

to be fair, i think it works out fine for starters on sub/sin

but you actively hold yourself back once you do harder content

e.g. you can probably do a 10 or 12 with obr

[green summit]

It's for my 13 year old daughter, she wanted to try rogue 🙂

I figured playing with SBA is easiest for her

[tough swallow]

oh absolutely

obr is great to start out

you can switch away from obr and just do the rotational highlight once the controls are familiar

which already mitigates a lot of the damage loss

[green summit]

the highlighted one isnt limited by global cooldown?

[tough swallow]

it just shows what to press

no gcd increase

[green summit]

ah, that's nice

maybe thats a better way of teaching her how to play, I have all of this off by default

[tough swallow]

if she isn't too familiar with games

might start with obr

[green summit]

haha, she was a pvp legend in Roblox for a while

[tough swallow]

because that allows you to get comfortable with mvoement and all the other visual overload you get

[green summit]

watched her play, was impressed

[tough swallow]

oh, well should have no problems picking up wow then

haha

[sinful ruin]

Probably not the place, but does anyone know why Unhalted UnitFrames stopped working properly? Like, the unit frames are just not appearing, yet I can access its options and WoW itself marks it as enabled and compatible?

[green summit]

seems they... Halted.

I'll let myself out

[tough swallow]

you can try deleting the addon settings in curseforge, possible that an update corrupted them

[sinful ruin]

Ah, this was it! Thank you very much! ❤️

[tough swallow]

👍 have fun

[whole tartan]

certainly a good starting point!

I bet she will out damage you in no time 😆

Also might be worth looking at playing classic too, you will know best but they might like it

[green summit]

Good one! She loved the plunderstorm events

[torpid harness]

Guys if I have myth occlusion from vault can it still drop from core rolls in xenas? Trying to figure out what rolls I should be trying next week

[fringe umbra]

Yes

[torpid harness]

Christ

[fringe umbra]

Unless you have gotten the items from the bonus roll you can still loot it

[torpid harness]

Thanks for the info

This Myth occlusion has been nothing but a curse lmao

[stray eagle]

Any tips for farming the ritual sites for transmog? Having a tough time soloing on my rouge

[green summit]

Have a monk as your second char, like I have lol

+8 t5's in less than half hour

[fossil monolith]

Under global -> select a font outline thickness

Right next to font

It was discussed as an Issue in the GitHub project

Not a very good way of communicating for most people - but it worked

[fossil monolith]

https://github.com/DaleHuntGB/UnhaltedUnitFrames/issues

[fossil monolith]

Never mind, I’m blind

[sinful ruin]

Thank you still! I couldn't find anything on the GitHub when the patch dropped, but good to know it's somewhat documented for the next to come

[sinful roost]

Is outlaw better than sub rn for m+?

[upper veldt]

everything is fine

[green summit]

I just did my first +10 as outlaw and ended up doing 135k overall, I'm pretty pleased with that

[river lynx]

k

[mellow pilot]

That's a pretty good overall, overall

[green summit]

yeah I thought so. ilvl 275

[mellow pilot]

I'm not playing outlaw, I'm playing sub, and my overalls in 10-12 have been 120-150

[green summit]

well I did 4 pit of sarons today, gets you in the flow i guess

[mellow pilot]

Been spamming those as well, xD

[green summit]

Got hero dagger, ring and just got a myth belt

still have 1 bonus roll left

[quasi stone]

yea used 3 bonus in that dungeon, been chasing the dagger and neck for mythics. Got the ring, pants and wrists so far 😂

plan is to slowly have dagger for assa too but that weapon once I upgrade it i’m sure it’ll be sweet for sub too

[craggy ridge]

lately my raider.io desktop app eats up crazy amounts of ram and cpu causing large fps drops when its in the backbround. Has anyone else ran into this?

[wooden folio]

murlok.io is saying sin is ranked higher in M+

is that accurate?

would be a shame to spend time regearing to find out it isn't

[mellow pilot]

yeah

because it is really good in high keys

But it's not that good in keys where stuff gets melted

[celest hawk]

sin and outlaw seem close enough at levels where it matters that you should just play what you prefer

[fringe umbra]

Well then you just press N and swap to another spec

[wooden folio]

well yeah I guess thats fair but I need to regear from sub

[fringe umbra]

Not really

Thats my point

[wooden folio]

oh

[fringe umbra]

Stats dont matter much at all

[wooden folio]

I thought sub was way more mast

[woeful geyser]

assa has good prio dmg, which seems to be valued this season

🤷‍♂️

[wooden folio]

I was always more of a sin main

[woeful geyser]

but also like

idk man

if you dont go for title, just play

[wooden folio]

fair enough!

thanks

[simple roost]

Anyone struggling with Shadow cloak on Salhadaar ?

feel's like i'm getting shred through the cloak anyway

[snow skiff]

Hey all! New player going to be rolling an alt but usually play caster dps......what spec should I look at first?

Was thinking assas?

[simple roost]

Assa = constant DPS

sub rog = huge burst phase DPS

both really simple to handle

hard to mastery

[snow skiff]

I am reading that Assa has lots of actions per minute and more stuff to track?

[simple roost]

well assa in M+ can spamm spells pretty much and ST u'll have some energy problem if u don't look out for ur Apex talent

[snow skiff]

What is ST?

[simple roost]

single target

[snow skiff]

Remember I have never played rogue

ahhhh

[simple roost]

And sub rogue u have HUUUUGE damage throwed in 15s then u can chill the rest of the time

[static epoch]

naw, no, Assa has rather low APM if anything

[simple roost]

it's all bout not failing ur burst phase

[static epoch]

the fastest Rogue spec is Outlaw

[snow skiff]

define fast?

fast leveling or just fast dmg dealer?

[simple roost]

yeah outlaw is a High APM class

[static epoch]

Outlaw is like 65-70 APM

Assa is, uh, what, like 40?

[snow skiff]

as reference what is forst mage or demo lock?

[static epoch]

lemme pull up a table

ok apparently Assa got a bit faster recently

[snow skiff]

ok so not far off from my frost mageww

[simple roost]

also outlaw got a bunch of "rules" in the priority of spells

iirc

[static epoch]

yeah outlaw a very "react to stuff without slowing down" spec

probably not the best pick if you want something similar to a caster

Assa should be fine tho

[snow skiff]

maybe im better off going outlaw or sub?

[static epoch]

idk, depends on what you're looking for

[simple roost]

Sub if u like burst phases and Assa if u like bleeds / constant boutons press

[static epoch]

if you want similar pace of play to a caster, Assa is good
if you want fast burst but not a lot of stuff out of burst, Sub is nice
if you want constantly fast gameplay, Outlaw is the pick

[snow skiff]

Awesome! Now to pick a horde allied race….was thinking Vulpera

[simple roost]

race are open

unless u wanna rock "BIS" = Pandran, mecha gnome

[snow skiff]

oh wait pandaran make best rogue?

[simple roost]

Pandaren make best everything i think

50 main stats + 100 stam on well fed buff

but it's min max shit , we talking bout 1%

[snow skiff]

I so didnt want to be alliance though but i do have some alliance chars on one of my servers

[noble kestrel]

Panda can be either faction

[snow skiff]

Thank you all!

[snow skiff]

sheesh squishy and slow going at first i see

though i havent spec'd yet

[simple roost]

yeah rogue isn't funny to lvl up

[snow skiff]

is it worth it?

[simple roost]

depend if u'll like or no the "final" shape of rogue

i'm having fun with it

[mellow pilot]

i like it a lot

(i dont know how to play anything else!)

[sour patrol]

I'd like to know who thought the Prey traps needed a rework

[hearty fog]

we've found people aren't interacting with prey as much as our metrics initially planned for so we need to pad the numbers

[sour patrol]

I missed my daughter's graduation to implement the Prey Traps, you're not just going to spam them to make Prey easier!

[sour patrol]

Got halfway through fighting Tyrannus in a Pit key before I realized I didn't have an aura active.

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[frosty trench]

anyone know if voidcores roll over to next week if we dont use em this week?

if i dont use it, will i lose it?

[turbid heron]

no

they stack up

[twin stirrup]

If I have the sparks, would it be advisable to craft a second dagger for my rogue?

[hearty fog]

no

[daring sinew]

Why

I just crafted a 2nd dagger rip lol

[noble kestrel]

Ideally not as the OH slot is a very very weak spot comparative to any other slot you could choose. It's better to use it in another slot. OH's are basically just a stat stick that doesn't contribute any real damage number to your damage.

[daring sinew]

I see

[static epoch]

not sure when they migrated from honest weapon damage to just attack power

probably Legion

[daring sinew]

Well at least we have 8 sparks

[noble kestrel]

At this point it's probably kinda whatever and youc an send it on anything, but another piece is probaly a better investment. Or jewellery for secondary stat stuff

[static epoch]

honestly with extra myth gear it's hard to find crests for crafted stuff

[mellow pilot]

Also, getting a myth track dagger for your MH and your crafted embellished dagger moving to the OH is the way

Until then, a champ or hero track dagger is good enough in the oh

[halcyon lagoon]

trying Tier11 Nulleaus as a Rogue but Valeera keeps dying so I have to recover her and I dont survive. anybody else? on my DH she never died

[fallow brook]

If your specced into elusiveness and pop feint everytime she goes down it should be plenty to survive it

[halcyon lagoon]

ah right, I've been specced to cheat death

[wide tusk]

anyone know how i can find out what this addon is incompatible with?

[ruby linden]

I use it daily, check if it’s updated

[wide tusk]

i just installed it for the first time now :/

[ruby linden]

Strange

Check load out of date addons I guess? Just install buggrabber and bugsack too though

[green summit]

what ilvl and spec is your rogue, just curious 🙂

[mellow pilot]

Anything above 240/250 should be enough

People filled the HoF in less(?) than 24h

[green summit]

yeah, on my tank it was ezpz, on my rogue it never felt easy even with gear 😛 thats why I am curious

tho I havent tried it in a while on my rogue

[mellow pilot]

(I'm 278 and I haven't tried it yet)

[green summit]

do you get the full first try myth crests on each char btw? I cant recall

cause my monk got like 20 for the first kill I believe

[hazy halo]

Does cloak work for soaking Balls at the bird boss?

[mellow pilot]

The rewards are char locked yes

[glad harness]

I thought you were in your "I aint playing" era

[mellow pilot]

Started 2 weeks ago

I didn't start sooner because we couldn't have both me and Andy progging together

She did everything she wanted to (only m+ rating remaining) so I started:3

[halcyon steeple]

Is sub or ass better rn for dps? Can’t decide what to play

[mellow pilot]

Both are good, depends on what you're doing

[halcyon steeple]

M+ and semi hardcore raid

[glad harness]

What do you mean when you say semi-hardcore

[green summit]

wait, what does this mean? You get the first time reward on each char you kill it on?

[mellow pilot]

If you mean the hero crests / myth crests from defeating it in ?? Or the hero crests from defeating him in ?, yeah I'm absolutely sure it's character locked

Wouldn't make sense otherwise

[green summit]

hero myth from ??, done it on monk but I didn't do it on rogue yet I think, so wanted to try today

but if I dont get 20 myth crests from it, it's not worth my time tbh

[mellow pilot]

I'm pretty sure you do

[green summit]

He is a shitload harder on rogue than he is on monk, even thoug they differ like 10+ ilvls

but maybe I shouldnt be letting valeera tank

[mellow pilot]

Rogue tank when

SoD already did it

[green summit]

I always hoped outlaw would be sort of a tank

[halcyon lagoon]

sublety 270

btw, blind cancels casts like a stun right

[mellow pilot]

Yes

Kinda

[green summit]

It's not an interrupt if thats what you mean

[mellow pilot]

They will just try to recast it

[halcyon lagoon]

well I mean in large aoe groups in m+ it can delay casts right

like where other classes use aoe stun we would use aoe blind right

[green summit]

yeah

it's def the best we can do as rogues for aoe control 🙂

[halcyon lagoon]

for sure ty

[green summit]

I'll just ask my girlfriend for help on ??. She can tank while I go full dps and valeera can do whatever

[light canyon]

Easiest way for sub is to 1 hour tricks healer valeera

That way he doesn't have the tank mechanic and you can just nuke him and his adds without much worry

[green summit]

Yeah but she dies so easily

I have her at lvl 60 lol

[light canyon]

Just revive her between the mechanics going on, it's a short enough cast that you can swing it with evasion or feint

[green summit]

And the orb pull does that not interrupt it?

[light canyon]

Not if you position correctly

She should only die like 2 times in a kill though iirc so it shouldn't be too bad honestly

Granted I haven't done said fight in like 3 weeks though

So memory could be wrong there lol

[green summit]

She died 4 times before I got to 30% I'm ilvl 274 and she's lvl 60. Feels weird

Maybe I should take defensive curios

[light canyon]

I remember swapping them from the usual ones yeah

[green summit]

I have the crit and damage one

[light canyon]

Also if you can swing it, could be smart to steal a lock cookie from someone before you do solo attempts

[green summit]

Hell yeah, curio swap and first try

[mellow pilot]

Gg homie

[green summit]

ty ty

[light canyon]

We love to see it

[green summit]

She still died 3 times, but ressing her with feint/evasion up really helped

[light canyon]

Always remember when life gets you down, cloak vanish shadow step can get you out of anything

[green summit]

haha, I dont dare to vanish in this fight tho

Look, if Valeera is alive, it should be fine, but who knows

[light canyon]

Oh yeah same, it's way too often fucked in solo ST and just resets fight

[green summit]

exactly

[halcyon lagoon]

she died once for me during 2nd phase, I am using mantle and voidspire

[green summit]

What damage meter mods are you guys using? The default one kinda sucks imo

as in, it's ugly. I know they probably all work the same

[gentle frigate]

Details

Not that it’s the details of old but it does look better than the blizz one

[novel cipher]

they all suck ass

just /combatlog it and put it on warcraft logs because since blizzard reined in all the addons every damage meter has been an inaccurate mess

[opaque temple]

anyone know if theres a trick or easier to to pull all mobs in an older dungeon? does killing a boss automatically pull everything prior to that boss?

[tough swallow]

killing a boss just kills the boss

[halcyon lagoon]

if I got a trinket from a boss it can still be in the vault too right?

[static epoch]

yes

[torpid harness]

Does that mean the boss will be dead

(jk)

[steep dock]

Boss is kill

[tough swallow]

yes

[tough swallow]

thats a very philosphical question, i assume it has to do with paralell dimensions. Can't rly explain how i can defeat a boss, to then join a group to do so again 2 minutes after.

[torpid harness]

What if all that really matters were the drops we got along the way

[sour patrol]

Surely my target will run across this mushroom

[torpid harness]

Exactly in the middle of it, where they'd never expect it to be

[sour patrol]

I got ambushed and he fled like 10 feet to the left there

[torpid harness]

Noob doesn't even have shadowstrike smh

[surreal aspen]

Did anyone else get shorted a refund roll 😭

[sour patrol]

What's causing this?

[wind hamlet]

Anyone also seeing raptors legs here or am i tripping

[obsidian hedge]

It looks like a raptor walking away from a giant 💩

[mellow pilot]

same!

[green summit]

gz dude!

its 30 myth crests, I thought it was 20

[gentle frigate]

How the hell do we even do nullaeus

I have a quest for him but never did it

[obsidian hedge]

What curio

[green summit]

the ones from valeera

[obsidian hedge]

Wow thanks I thought Bran made a comeback

[green summit]

NATURES TREASURE

[meager totem]

yeah leaves you 10 crests that you cant spend

[marsh wagon]

Set valerra to heals, tricks to her

Yeah the 30 over cap thing was stupid

[green summit]

I have other myth crests too

[gentle frigate]

I I mean like is nul a delve or something

[green summit]

and Im not capped on myth crests, so for me it's fine

it is a delve

[glossy flicker]

just get the myth discount achievement obv

then you can spend them

[gentle frigate]

How do I unlock the delve

[green summit]

its in voidstorm, it's already unlocked

It's called Torment's Rise @gentle frigate

[crisp ocean]

Does someone know if you can buy bonus roll coins in alts that are not max level yet?

[mellow pilot]

you need to even be able to open the vault in order to get vault coins

[onyx ferry]

@mellow pilot it’s insane that my highest level OH is still 263

[mellow pilot]

nah its fine, you just havent farmed Pit enough!

[onyx ferry]

Ive done 11 keys in there so you’re right

If I get myth track weapon from vault I think I hit 280

[sour patrol]

mom says it's my turn on the computer

[gentle frigate]

What de fuk class is This

[sour patrol]

I was healing a Skyreach on my Paladin and this guy was there

First Mythic he's done this expac, couldn't really remember what to do

Guess what class he is (dps)

[snow skiff]

Hey all! So I started my rogue yesterday was assa and am only level 12 but wow are rogues tough to level

Is outlaw a lil better?

[sour patrol]

Subtlety is the easiest to level as

[gentle frigate]

Legit looks like our characters before. Transmog

[sour patrol]

More on-demand burst

[sour patrol]

We had just killed Ranjit and the Warlock had to hearth out to repair, so I had time to look at the group

That was a weird key

[craggy cedar]

guys pls help how can i off it, i do in blizz setting but its still coloured debuffs on my party frames

im using grid2 but before patch everything was good

[snow skiff]

Ok gonna switch to sub see if that helps......

So with sub do i always have to be behind stuff?

[sour patrol]

Technically yes, but when you're leveling you're most likely fighting something by yourself, at which point you can't do it.

It may be called Backstab but it can still be used when they are facing you.

[halcyon lagoon]

can we escape gargoyle grip in pit?

[rare solar]

Yeah