wow-general

[surreal agate]

I don't know how they could make raids scary again though, because everyone knows now that they're chill

I guess they could kill lfr/normal?

[late patrol]

It might be a osmosis thing, where because I'm culturally aware of what warcraft is i identify with older content more

but I don't think that's it either

That was so stupid man

[surreal agate]

Yeah, a lot of the cultural presence of wow is very much older stuff as well.
When you start playing wow you do feel the legacy the game has.

[hearty fog]

it was and it is and it gets worse

[late patrol]

And then we didn't even know why that happened

Until the whole Jailer thing

[hearty fog]

you have bits and pieces of it as well throughout previous expansions

[late patrol]

And even with shadowlands the explanation was still stupid

[hearty fog]

like horde casually dropping the equivalent of a nuke on an alliance city

[late patrol]

and still kinda passing the buck, because after Zovaal "died" he was still teasing obtuse shit

[hearty fog]

but no jaina wanting revenge on orgrimmar is taking things too far

[late patrol]

"ahh now the big bad will come along"

[hearty fog]

yes im still mad about that

[surreal agate]

I think the only way you can make raids more "special" again is to make them less accessible

[hearty fog]

that's also the thing with writing in wow

[late patrol]

I can't wait until Xalatath dies and goes "you guys don't know what's coming"

[hearty fog]

if you were to acutally think about it

alliance would instantly deciminate the entire horde

if they acutally wanted to

[late patrol]

"just wait for the actual actual actual villain behind everything"

[hearty fog]

but they aren't allowed to for gameplay reasons

[surreal agate]

To be clear here, I think the current new player experience for wow sucks, and part of that is how fast levelling is.

I think new expansion levelling is also probably too fast as well.

[late patrol]

But they can't

because we can't write characters like that anymore

[hearty fog]

well no

half the alliance leaders

[late patrol]

They are the good guys don't you know

[hearty fog]

could end the entire horde

[surreal agate]

But they can never capture the feeling of being a new player when everything is new and scary again.

[late patrol]

Yes, because every horde leader is gone except Thrall

How does that even work politically

they have that limp council now

[hearty fog]

malfurion is so fucking strong

that no one remmebers because the writers have to put him to sleep every time he's in the story

[late patrol]

I stand by the fact that Lor'themar should just say "fuck it", make an executive decision and become war chief

[hearty fog]

dont need to talk about jaina (whos also neutral again)

turalyon has a spaceship just floating there

[late patrol]

But they're not gonna do that

[hearty fog]

that could decimate a city

wtf does horde have

[late patrol]

As much as they have stated that there actually will be conflict in midnight

with the allied guys just kinda taking over silvermoon

[late patrol]

Talanji?

Maybe?

[hearty fog]

yeah and whats she going to do against a spaceship ultra death laser beam

[late patrol]

She doesn't do anything either

I would say Gallywix but we know how that went

They killed him with a literal slapstick debri falling scene

[hearty fog]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Vindicaar

this belongs to the alliance

Eager to once more aid his people, Turalyon pledged the loyalty of the Army of the Light, and by extension the Vindicaar, to the Alliance cause.

[late patrol]

They have the sunwell? But that won't last for much longer I don't think

Yea nah they're cooked

[hearty fog]

yeah thats my point

[late patrol]

Is Bovar neutral?

[hearty fog]

horde only exists because of "gameplay"

yeah bolvar is netural because death is a higher calling or something

and he has to be

but yeah

[late patrol]

but he also jobbed to Sylvanas

[hearty fog]

horde only exists because gameplay says they have to still exist

and the lore has to be written around that

[surreal agate]

tbh the fact that they used venari as a patch character and not as a continuing main character is also going to annoy me now that I've thought about it

they accidentally made a character people remember and care about and then they've basically locked her in place on karesh

[late patrol]

To be honest I think the current writers have forgotten more lore than they have written

It's like the Araki forgot meme but it's whoever replaced Chris Metzen

[surreal agate]

metzen is back though

[late patrol]

He is, which is partially why I came back, and because they baited me with blood elves

He did come in midway through WW's story though

So I'm waiting on what Midnight has to offer

They've pretty much stated that all writing now is done by committee, which might still cause issues even with him back

[hearty fog]

current writers didn't write any of the lore

all the old writers are gone or something

[steep dock]

metzen is there now but prolly

[late patrol]

That's what I mean, the current writers likely have less knowledge of the original lore than the average fan that actually likes the lore

[hearty fog]

yup

this is why

having hope and caring about the lore

is just a waste of effort

just enjoy other parts about the game

[late patrol]

I'm not saying you're wrong, god knows it's the path of least resistence

But If I'm not going to hold out hope for the part that makes me most excited about this shitty game what am I even doing

Being invested into the lore, as horrible as it currently is, even if it is to laugh at its current state

doesn't mean I can't also enjoy other parts of the game

Like I said, I loved the zones in Shadowlands, and even a lot of the mechanics and raids, Castle Nathria was brilliant

Not mutually exclusive with me laughing at the way they butchered Sylvanas

I'm pretty sure if you go to Oribos Baine is still sitting there

[hearty fog]

lmao yup

being baine is just suffering

why even exist

tbh just accept the writing for the game kinda sucks now

it is what it is

enjoy what bits you can

and what bits are stupid

[late patrol]

One of the hardest hitting metaphors blizzard came up with

[hearty fog]

just ignore and move past it

[late patrol]

Probably a representation of the players

Yea you're right lol

[hearty fog]

like they're going to always put silly bits here and there into the story now

it's just how things are written these days

see marvel and all its slop

[minor ember]

anybody got a wa that showws the timer for the xalatah affix?

[hearty fog]

it has to put some sarcastic quip every 30 seconds

they are contractually obligated

[hearty fog]

https://wago.io/affixes

i think i've used this in the past

[late patrol]

It's so weird how writing is these days, I've noticed this is so many modern shows, games, etc.

It dissolves any tension they are trying to build

Are they this afraid of being genuine?

It feels like someone with impostor syndrome pretending to not try

Like how you beat someone in a videogame and they go "I let you win"

[hearty fog]

yeah i dunno

[manic sedge]

The icons for those affixes reinduce trauma

[hearty fog]

it's just the state of writers these days

[manic sedge]

Incorp and afflicted as a fury warrior was so disgusting

Actually unplayable xd

[hearty fog]

everyone needs to be quirky

and unique

and have funny one liners

that don't go more than skin deep

[wicked wolf]

Just coming back to the game.. any reason to do the bountiful delves / delves in general if I dont have any keys? Thanks!

[mellow pilot]

If you don't have any keys, no

There's a good reason for more casual players to do delves tho

Delves above 8 will award you hero track loot on your vault.
Delves 11 will give you 7 gilded 3 times. (Aka you need to do 3x11s to get 21 gilded)

[steep dock]

+map glided

[mossy cloud]

after tanking for around a week

i quit

that shit aint fun

[woeful geyser]

my brother in christ

you dont say that while in the same breath talking about "all the OLD LORE PEOPLE ARE GONE "

like, there is no way you can be that delusional and say that about warcraft, the OG "quirky quips" franchise lol

litterally the entire franchise is build on the concept of kinda dumb and comedic things happening 30seconds after something serious happend since day1

[hearty fog]

i was more talking about marvel than wow at that point

wow now is everyone needs to be about peace

but it's also more so that

[woeful geyser]

you mean the story of WC3?

[hearty fog]

the story felt like it was building to something

[hearty fog]

daelin did nothing wrong

also was it me not paying attention to any of the lore

or did dimensius as an end boss sorta come out of nowhere

or was that always known from the start

[woeful geyser]

like

sometimes i wonder what game you guys played if you seriously talk about that stuff

WC3 was about everyone getting togheter to defeat the big bad

Vanilla/TBC had literally no story really and instead where just "named character mass slaughter" because they didnt really expect to make a game that will still be alive in 20years back then (and TBC was so bad in that regard that they literally had to make a weird Illidan Redemption in Legion lol)

and since WotLK where they actually tried making a story its always the same beat that the franchise has since WC3: everyone getting togheter to defeat a big bad

[hearty fog]

yeah i mean i know you're right

but there's some bits where it feels way too hamfisted

see jaina and theramore

and then whatever the dannath trollbane garbage storyline is

[glad harness]

No dont give him the satisfaction

Tryan is never right

( He bullies kittens and kicks puppies for a living! )

[hearty fog]

nah he is about this. basically every single expansion is about getting together to beat the big bad

[noble kestrel]

[noble kestrel]

Fyrakk even had a fun little cutscene doing this!

Fyrakk was fun. I miss Fyrakk.

[hearty fog]

but the way its written now

feels so hamfisted

[woeful geyser]

dont reveal my secret

[noble kestrel]

WoW writing is at it's best when it's a saturday morning cartoon (legion, for example)

They just need to make it more cheesey

[woeful geyser]

i mean, we currently fight a sentient black hole that has abilitys that spaghettify you

[hearty fog]

yeah but everytime i think about dimensius i just remember terrible hitbox and his arms covering half my screen

so i just instadislike anything about him

[oak tartan]

If xal'atath doesn't stomp us with her feet after consuming the void and being giant...

All these feet shots for nothing

[upper veldt]

exactly what i needed

[warped siren]

Is there a list for what things atrophic poison does not work on in raid?

[hearty fog]

Yes, I linked it before. On mobile so cbf finding it again but if you search you can find it

[short pecan]

[solemn rain]

Hi guys, I just starting this season and I plan on playing sub or assa for m+, is their dps similar or should I just pick one over the other for m+?

[fringe umbra]

Similar, just play whatever you prefer

[weak gulch]

Hey I was thinking of picking up rogue for the first time and was wondering which spec of rogue would be more beginner friendly to play?

[inland gale]

Assa

[civic sentinel]

can i only skip tazavesh streets first boss interrogation cast with cloak? are there any other tech?

[sour patrol]

Vanish?

[mellow pilot]

not a good call

[sour patrol]

Unless it lines up, lol

But yeah

[mellow pilot]

will reddirect the interrogation to another player

who might not be prepared

[surreal wind]

Shadowmeld also works

[tranquil grotto]

Did anyone kill dimi in LFR? Harder than mythic dimi with all those pepegas

[sour patrol]

I did it on the 4th try. None of the first three were long enough to get Determination but some people complained that we were never going to do it and left

Then we just got it done, was nice

[tranquil grotto]

Yea.. i just went through 1 hour of suffering and replacing people.. People randomly going into portals, people having literally no clue..

kinda pain

[mortal wedge]

what if im trying to get people killed

[sour patrol]

Most of mine was just "oh, there's an action button"

That happened twice

Then we had most of the group die to the first Devour

Finally some people bitched about us never getting it because too many people are stupid and left, then we finished it

[tranquil grotto]

So i was the problem? xd

[sour patrol]

Of course not

[winter spoke]

What are the odds of getting melee melee ranged chains on soul hunters with 6 melee

0 right?

[mortal wedge]

if you wanna speed run LFR gota take command of the pepega's

How i got LFR nzoth during alt gearing gota rule like a Tyrant sometimes

[foggy dagger]

the level 80 boost doesn't boost profession points anymore if you've unlocked khaz algar professions right?

[wraith hull]

is sub or assa the go to spec for m+?

[fringe umbra]

Both are good, play whichever you prefer

[formal fulcrum]

Hey guys should I play sub or assa this season

Should my fav colour be orange or purple

Do I like hot dogs or hamburgers better

[hearty fog]

purple is a social construct

[formal fulcrum]

What if purple from my perspective is a different colour than what you see but we both label it purple

[hearty fog]

acutally thats kinda true

something something purple is a spectral colour

that only exists when you see red and blue light together

[worldly egret]

Hey my boyfriend has been playing rogue a bit lately and suddenly started getting a bug where he gets automatically removed from stealth like 5 seconds after stealthing

Even when he disables addons

Anyone know what might be causing it?

[amber sparrow]

is he using the delve belt with the default power on it

[fringe umbra]

Unequip the intellect dagger

Equip a dagger with agility on it

[worldly egret]

LOL THIS WAS IT

time to use 100 ilvl dagger

hahahaha

THANK YOU

[amber sparrow]

I didnt know that was a thing

[fringe umbra]

Extremly frequent question around here

[worldly egret]

[fringe umbra]

For some reason people dont read the intellect bit

[hearty fog]

????????????????????????

[late patrol]

It's gonna take so long to get that fucking bee istg

[finite shadow]

Heyyyyyyyy so we forgot to reset our taz gambit before we started our hard mode (we currently started and are inside the dungeon) and it says the last 3 bosses are eliminated, anyone know if they'll show up once we reach them in our hard mode run?

we were able to reset no problem

[trail stream]

why does an int dagger remove you from stealth? :p

[amber sparrow]

Blizz is a small indie company

its hard to get the dev time to work on some of these minor bugs

[unreal gulch]

Id certainly not fix a stealth bug that only happens if an agi class has an int dagger equipped either

[late patrol]

I'm starting to get it. I didn't really get the point of the game that much but I'm genuinely enjoying just doing stuff, for long term goals and dopamine hits like the adventurer's guide, gear upgrades, etc.

Plus instead of farming old mounts, now that I'm doing the opposite, starting with the current recent mounts

It's a lot more fun

[hearty fog]

eyyyy lets gooooo

there's always something to collect

[deep hollow]

getting a new friend into wow, could use some help- He bought the epic edition of the latest version that came out and spawned in dourngal but he can't use skyriding

any clue how we do this? conflicting resources on google

he boosted his toon to 70 and spawned in dournagal i should say

[mellow pilot]

It takes 1/2 hours to get in the right group. That area is filled with mobs that can be skinned, therefore there are always groups in the pre made party list

[warm pagoda]

I remember there being a quest unlocking it in the intro chain for the isle of dorn? Might be something to do with that?

[deep hollow]

our theory is the same, we're doing the fleet arrives, but you said isle of dorn?

[warm pagoda]

Yeah, the levelling quest chain in khaz algar

Maybe he has to go to silithus to do that whole chain in dalaran with thrall to properly start things?

(I don't know the answer here I'm mostly stabbing in the dark at possible solutions)

[deep hollow]

were clueless too

we cant do the khaz algar chain either - he skipped

so hes stuck in dournagal

[warm pagoda]

Can he fly at all?

[deep hollow]

nope it just flourishes

apparently he can skyrid everywhere else but dourngal

abilities and everything

[warm pagoda]

Its making me think something's fucked because he didn't do the intro questchain on any character

[trail stream]

I think there's been this literal thread made on r/wow today and apparently you have to start the campaign at some random rock lol

and advance the quests up to liberation of dornogal to fly

look it up

[trail stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1n5u73o/80_boost_and_nothing_is_making_sense/

[warm pagoda]

Oh hey, at least my theory was right.

[deep hollow]

ty

hope it works

dont thik it will work

he did a skip

so those quests dont exist we think

submitted ticket already

[warm pagoda]

At least experiencing a dumb bug is a great introduction to the game. Sets the tone going forward

[deep hollow]

it unbugged

he has skyriding now

[left crow]

Pulled Dimensius heroic first time yesterday. Hitbox seems very small? Any tips other than beg raid to not put puddles all over the place?

[hearty fog]

mald and despair

[noble kestrel]

Raid should be putting puddles at far edges and NOT in front fo the boss. Other thing is on the devour, try to get people to be close to the boss edge

The puddles always come after the add has spawned, which is after the knockback. So what you can do is stand next to the tank knock circle, get knocked, immeidately hit the add a few times and then movement ability to the far edge of the platform and goop drop.

[trail stream]

so annoying to do sub rotation in P1, there's always some crap forcing you to move somewhere you can't do it in peace

[ember nest]

depends on strat ideally you do a long line on melee instead of trying to fit in the corners

like at most do first one on the side then long line then fill but on M it is a diff beast

[ruby totem]

Im prob like dumb but the arrows make zero sense to me as where to fly and im hoping they never add something like that again

This is prob the worst possible boss for me in history- try to follow arrows and i die - legit at the point wondering if I have a UI problem or something messing with arrows

[mellow pilot]

Dimensius?

[glad harness]

Arrows

[warm pagoda]

For mythic dimensius they should have replaced the skyriding segment with a racetrack for those undermine cars. TIME TO LEARN TO DRIFT FUCKERS.

[unreal gulch]

Idk the flying is definitely easy

The tindral flying was worse even

[warm pagoda]

Yeah so let's make it worse

And make it a drifting course

We rainbow road in wow now

[ruby totem]

I had no problems with tindral

[unreal gulch]

That would be awesome

[ruby totem]

Indicators w/e it is

[unreal gulch]

Then you shouldnt have problems now either

Its just flying one gate to another

[ruby totem]

Yah I wouldn't think so

[ruby totem]

Ya

[mellow pilot]

The only time i ever died on that boss was when I was searching for the black holes which meant drifting away from the path

How are you dying

[ruby totem]

Well

Looking at someone else's pov

I have some weird ass arrow pointing the wrong way

So I definitely have a rogue addon

That explains so much

[mellow pilot]

Okay so we figured the flying part is easy if you don't have a weird ass WA / addon trolling u right

[ruby totem]

Yah I guess I fell for the troll weak aura or something

[ruby totem]

The only other issue i had with that fight and 3-4 of my guild mates had it too

Is not being able to mount

For the first flight

[mellow pilot]

That happens if you die and ress after xalatata has given the buff already

[ruby totem]

Spam button never mount free death

I didnt die -

Just never got buff

Then I died

[mellow pilot]

Do you have dragonflying mode enabled?

[ruby totem]

Yah

Not a druid either

[mellow pilot]

Weird shit but I won't say you're crazy

Because I'm fairly sure a had someone complain about that too

In my guild

[ruby totem]

It happened to like 4 of us 2 times total

[warm pagoda]

My one time was going in there on my druid and going ,'oh I can just use flight form'

I could not use flight form

[mellow pilot]

XDDDD

[ruby totem]

Well im a paladin; id like to use horse

Would go hard

[warm pagoda]

A paladin? I'm sorry about your condition bud

Get better soon

[ruby totem]

Hey, ret kinda fun man

Yeah its brain dead but

Kinda fun

[weary moon]

stormvine the kinda guy to play a class out of personal enjoyment

[ruby totem]

Imagine playing for fun

Couldn't be me

[tiny forge]

anyone here done the void scarred packmother mount in horrific visions? I cant seem to enter the AH to get the saddle item

[tight edge]

i want that pepe

[chrome arrow]

i dont think it's in the AH

[late patrol]

mf said group

[mellow pilot]

Yeah, plenty of skinning farms in that exact area

[late patrol]

I mean sure but I'm playing solo

[mellow pilot]

That's your choice

Get ilvl and solo farm that area

Easily possible

[late patrol]

Yea no i'm gonna do it regardless

I'm not really upset about it or anything

[mellow pilot]

With ilvl you can aggro a lot of stuff and burn it down before dying

Not being naked helps

[late patrol]

What ilevel should I have

Like 700?

[mellow pilot]

That's a good number to be yeah

680+ is already really easy to do anyway

[chrome arrow]

yeah i got that mount by just going into warmode and then killing and skinning bees for a few hours in that area

not a lot of competition

[mellow pilot]

Sure it is possible, but doing it in a skinning group is just faster, that's why I pointed out the farm in the first place

[formal fulcrum]

Clowning on him for saying group when group is quicker and easier is sus

[inland gale]

Bro wants to play an mmo alone

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

I'm here to provide answers that my moderate knowledge allows me to

Not my job to force it to anyone

[late patrol]

I'm clowning on myself if anything

I just got back to playing, I don't have a guild

I don't really have a "group" to play with exactly

And frankly I think I need to learn more about the game before I get one

[mellow pilot]

There are groups in the group finder

They probably also don't know each other

[late patrol]

Yea I did not know that lol

Might check it out, thanks

[mellow pilot]

If you have the time, do explore the custom groups under the group finder tools

[late patrol]

I see

You know what? I do not mind Shadowlands. There's a bit of a meme where people say "oh 2 expansions from now people will be saying SL was good". The only really shit part of Shadowlands was how Zovaal and Sylvanas were written?

The zones were great, I really don't mind the cosmology

[mellow pilot]

You can find groups for m+/current tier raiding/legacy raids for Tmog or achievs, quests, custom groups like farms or wtvr

[late patrol]

I think Zerath Mortis and the first ones lore is great

[late patrol]

I will eventually

[hearty fog]

and covenants when first implemented were absolutely and utterly garbage

[late patrol]

I just need to get to a spot where I know I won't suck

And waste everybody's time

[hearty fog]

imagine having to spend 2 hours regrinding reputation and quests every time you wanted to change spec

[late patrol]

I mean sure, they later fixed that

and a lot of the issues with Shadowlands, even lore wise

[mellow pilot]

Are you telling me you didn't enjoy being stuck with a covenant??

[late patrol]

Are more because of BFA

[mellow pilot]

Jailer was a disaster

[hearty fog]

i love being only to do one form of content

[late patrol]

I liked the covenants thematically

[mellow pilot]

Trash level end boss

[hearty fog]

pretty sure all the raids were relatively shit

some good bosses

[late patrol]

I thought that too, but here's the thing I realised

[hearty fog]

some really really garbage bosses that let the whole thing down

[late patrol]

Regardless of if there was a jailer or not

[hearty fog]

sanctumn is a write off

[mellow pilot]

Nathria was poggers

[late patrol]

They have been teasing another presence in the helm of domination

since what, WOTLK?

[hearty fog]

yeah but it's forever mired with the existance of SLG

[late patrol]

The valkyries had to come from somewhere

[mellow pilot]

Fair take, I loved everything around nathria lore

[hearty fog]

i enjoyed sire/sludgefist and BOOGIE DOWN

[late patrol]

And then there is the whole thing with Vol'jin, where he is getting politically influenced by the afterlife

[mellow pilot]

SASHA LEFT

[late patrol]

Regardless there was going to be a big bad above the LK

[mellow pilot]

PRANCE(?) FORWARD

[hearty fog]

i had the weakaura that played "you got to pump it up" every time you did it successfully

[late patrol]

And no matter how you write them they would have to come off as "knowing everything" and having convoluted as hell plans

[hearty fog]

shimmy right

[late patrol]

If the Jailer had proper, well made motivations, and Sylvanas wasn't written horribly

And actually stated those motivations also

[hearty fog]

lots of Ifs

[late patrol]

He would have been an okay villain

[hearty fog]

basically

if he was written good

he would have been good

but h e was not written good

therefore he is not good

[mellow pilot]

Garrosh

He did nothing wrong

[hearty fog]

true

[mellow pilot]

Died in a silly way

[hearty fog]

also i cant believe that the final bits of arthas

was that fight

holy shit

now im mad again

[mellow pilot]

AND EVEN IN DEATH THAT GUY DECIDED HIS OWN FATE

(SL second raid)

[hearty fog]

ye garrosh they sent off well

[late patrol]

Well yes, Shadowlands had the most potential out of pretty much any expansion. Frankly, if I played the game and it was just the story of the quests it's fine lol

[hearty fog]

it had potential yes

but having potential does not make for a good story

[late patrol]

I feel like it would take like 5 different cutscenes

[hearty fog]

having story makes for a good story

[late patrol]

with barely any gameplay changes

to fix the whole of shadowlands

[late patrol]

Yes, but BFA didn't even have that

[mellow pilot]

DF is a shit show too

Story wise

[late patrol]

I think it was more the baggage of BFA that hurt Shadowlands

[mellow pilot]

Fucking power of friendship

[late patrol]

Because say, if Shadowlands started before BFA we would be fine

we'd have a Sylvanas that hadn't gone full psycho yet

Maybe you have Sylvanas open the shadowlands, but go against Zovaal immediately

or maybe she didn't properly know who Zovaal was

[mellow pilot]

It also took us .. 4? Years to know why voljin chose her

That ain't good story telling

[late patrol]

Honestly, you didn't even need to make her Warchief

It would have been a lot more interesting to have Vol'jin as an actually good war chief

[hearty fog]

fuck they did vol'jin so dirty

[late patrol]

who was way more balanced compared to the others

[mellow pilot]

He died too fast for that

[late patrol]

and a Sylvanas wrecking shit up

[mellow pilot]

He was THE GOAT

[late patrol]

in conflict with him

[mellow pilot]

Yet killed like trash

[late patrol]

Not only that but it would solve the "horde council" shit we have

The only reason the horde is not allowed to be the horde anymore is because Sylvanas had the title of warchief when she did all she did

Nobody goes "oh the alliance can't have a king anymore because Arthas was the lich king"

[mellow pilot]

True

[late patrol]

Honestly, any expansion after BFA would have the same issues as SL, if not bigger ones

Imagine, IMAGINE WE SKIP SL

[mellow pilot]

Legion to me was the last peak of okay story

[late patrol]

and go directly into Dragonflight

[inland gale]

Making the primus the actual big bad and having the jailer be controlled by domination magic woulda been a good story

[hearty fog]

^

[late patrol]

Actually

[hearty fog]

they could have done so many things to make SL not terrible

[late patrol]

YES

[hearty fog]

but the writers are garbage so they didnt

[mellow pilot]

In 5 minutes we could make the story telling genuinely good

[late patrol]

Yes because characters need to either be 100% evil or 100% good

they are allergic to nuance

SL was weird because people were coping so hard

through out the whole expansion

every new patch they would come up with excuses for why it doesn't suck, until the last cutscene

With "what is to come"

[late patrol]

YEEEEEEES

Now I just need 9 more

What's that, 13000 kills?

[mellow pilot]

Perhaps

[sour patrol]

Not shoehorning Zovaal into 90% of all previously-established lore and actually putting effort into a coherent plot would've been a good story.

[round tinsel]

is there an option to turn off non - shared action bars gobally like im so tried of switching specs and not having my macros set up

[mortal wedge]

nah i loved arthas being disenchanted

was truly a next level story development

[sour patrol]

I want to know how Denathrius is coming back, because Blizzard decided to have the Dreadlords jettison him and Remoria somewhere and then we killed those Dreadlords.

[hearty fog]

expectation status = subverted

[tall zenith]

one shard is 1 in a 1000 supposedly

[mortal wedge]

you didnt hear? they gona reenchant arthas to

[late patrol]

How do I get sparks?

I have everything to craft multiple items except them

[amber sparrow]

Weekly quest that gives a pinnacle cache

e.g. do 3 delves, collect the titan disks, etc.

[wicked night]

Anyone know any good 1 day raiding guilds (not those 1 day but we do 14 hours of raiding in that one day and also do 3 optional days that are actually mandatory) in EU?

[surreal void]

dinosaur invasion?

[mortal wedge]

big goblin

[surreal void]

holy crap, something must have changed. all of a sudden my m+ search has like 30+ spam groups for carries. blocker must not be working

[shrewd saddle]

what gear track is timewalking cache on again

oh wait its gotta be champ nvm

[hearty fog]

set filter for m+ rating to be 1

[static epoch]

hero for raid quest
champ for regular TW quest

[surreal void]

yep this is exactly what happened, thank you! no idea why it got reverted

[hot isle]

does anybody know if the thing with weapon recraft for free upgrades still works?

[meager totem]

it doesnt

[fallen steppe]

Hello guys, this week we get a catalyst charge?

[mellow pilot]

No

It was last week iirc

[fallen steppe]

Perfect thx mate

[wild plover]

Yo. I’ve got a question about solo PvE (delves, open world, rares, achievements, old content) as a Rogue. I’ve seen a lot of polar opinions - some say it’s the worst experience of all classes, others say it’s really easy because you can skip unnecessary fights. But still, on Reddit most people lean towards the idea that Rogue just doesn’t survive for shit.

I get that it can’t pull half the zone like a DH or DK, but it can’t really be THAT bad, right?

[plush dune]

nothing is that bad

but you will certainly be squishier in solo content than most other melee

sometimes you do get to skip a bunch and speed to the end of stuff though

[mellow pilot]

The problem with people on Reddit is that most of them are allergic to actually play the game and use cloak of shadows, evasion, put brann healer and use potions on the ground carefully, burst and cc monsters (especially in delves) etc

Are there easier classes? Absolutely.

Is it impossible for rogues? No

[wild plover]

Mhm, gotcha. Thanks!

[warm pagoda]

Do delves as sub and have brann become your biggest threat.

Hit shadowdance, everything aggroes onto brann, brann pulls four more packs and then insults you when you respawn

I hate that dwarf so fucking much I swear

[upper veldt]

Iirc then rogues are gettin way more damage in delves compared to other classes idk heard smth like that

[warm pagoda]

Let me replace him with a potion dispenser I can just plonk down

[plush dune]

cant wait to replace brann with alleria

[warm pagoda]

Its Valeera instead and I hate it

[plush dune]

oh yeah

i meant valeera

why hate it tho

wtf

[upper veldt]

Valeera, alleria, brann…all the same

[plush dune]

all equally hot

[warm pagoda]

Because brann in delves made me fucking hate brann

And the same is gonna happen to valeera

[plush dune]

i think the biggest thing is

she isnt ranged

so she shouldnt do the kiting bullshit brann does

[warm pagoda]

She has poison knife on her bars

[plush dune]

ono

shes using one button rotation

[warm pagoda]

One button rotation and tilt controls

[sour patrol]

[tough swallow]

isn't that the prefered method if you play on an ipad?

[warm pagoda]

I don't want to hate valeera please don't make her annoying as fuck in delves

[sour patrol]

watch out for those webs

[warm pagoda]

I swear to god if you manifest this I'm going to find you and shake the silly out of you

You're gonna be sat there in off topic talking about your tax returns

[sour patrol]

It can't end like this!

[warm pagoda]

And local golf results

[sour patrol]

Next time try some harder hitting moves!

[warm pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[steep dock]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/Gn8HqzJXEAAP6S2.gif

[warm pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/glblglblgb-gif-24373863

[ruby totem]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1n70xu6/we_are_so_getting_a_solo_queue_system_for_mythic/

Curious if this is real and what people think if so

I think it is a bad idea personally.

If I have an option not to use it I will not.

[unreal gulch]

What about it

Sounds like a convenient way if you dont really care

[ruby totem]

How does blizzard determine skill? Are we looking at rating?
Theres a ton of 2k players that hit 3k rating last season for the first time that don't have an interrupt bound or a clue how to play thier class right now and it sucks being getting one of them right now but I have control over who I invite so I can try to mitigate that by checking logs ect to make sure im not getting a 2m peak dps mage in a 12 or something, but for really low keys its prob fine because those are kinda shitholes anyhow.

[unreal gulch]

It wont be a replacement

[ruby totem]

If its looking at other factors (interrupts damage taken ect) all the "better" players will continue to be paired with each other and people will be forced to get an ego check because there's Noone to carry them and toxicity goes up.

[unreal gulch]

It CAN automatically, it WILL recommend

So we just keep it as is and have new options

[ruby totem]

Doesn't help .1% players- the queue times will be longer because there is less players there and my observation is like 1/4 of the players there don't like each other anyhow

So unless they want non title plebbes in there title keys ruining it doesnt help them

[unreal gulch]

How will there be less players there

[unreal gulch]

It doesnt need to help them

[ruby totem]

.1% of the player base is a small number

[unreal gulch]

Its a percentage that only loses value with a smaller base. Players dont suddenly get worse because of that feature either

Everyone thats up there now can and will most likely still be up there

[past yoke]

As far as i still have lfg i wont care

I wont use random q on 16s

But for people doing 8s its a big w

[unreal gulch]

Ye literally nothing changes if you either dont want to use it or are at a point where its not feasible

Its just to help the lower end

[ruby totem]

Assuming its not forced

[warm pagoda]

If it makes my weekly 10s easier then, this is fine

[past yoke]

As long as we have both options

No one is gonna random q a 16

[unreal gulch]

Would be stupid and nonsense, also they are usually careful with wording and said it CAN automatically find people and it WILL recommend

[ruby totem]

Stupid and nonsensical is blizzards bread and butter my dude

[ruby totem]

Im not so sure it will.

We can be hopeful but I suspect Johnny "1 button rotation no interrupts" mage is coming to a key near you so you better carry them or risk abandon debuff.

[unreal gulch]

Nah not on stuff like that

[trail stream]

man.. having to take a socket this early in the season, what a disappointment

[iron belfry]

i took socket week 2 and im contemplating it now also

[trail stream]

;/

[mellow pilot]

I'll never take a socket if I have transmog to unlock

[iron belfry]

i had rings, wrists (where i got craft item) trinkets that sim lower than house of cards heroic -> gg

[mellow pilot]

Fair take then

Also use a second rogue to get LFR / normal tier set appearance

[faint bough]

did that for last tier since it was a banger, dont think i care enough this raid

[mellow pilot]

Not even for the completion sake?

[faint bough]

not really a collector at all, just pick the stuff i like to farm up. also i have way less time now than in the past so want to just focus on playing my main/alt and not doing lfr

[glad harness]

[left crow]

Why would I ever tank in auto matchmaking when I can pretty much choose my group in the browser?

[faint bough]

hes a time traveler

[sour patrol]

Random question time!
What's your favorite dungeon from this rotation?
I personally love Eco-Dome

[faint bough]

dawnbussy cause you never know whats going to happen

fall through boat? orbs randomly go super sonic?

stay frosty

[left crow]

Priory, Floodgate, Dawnbreaker. In this order.

[sour patrol]

I never dismount unless I know there's solid ground

[mellow pilot]

You don't need LFR for the LFR appearance

[mellow pilot]

Hands down eco dome

[sour patrol]

All three bosses are so great.
Especially Soul-Scribe with the Fated mechanic

I found out I'm not as good at grabbing my image as ranged compared to melee

[iron belfry]

just stay in melee

[woeful geyser]

reminder that it can be just fake

AND that they often just throw out random question stuff with random thoughts on it

[sour patrol]

The group I was in was three ranged, so all of us plus the healer were standing pretty close to center and almost nuked ourselves with the one circle mechanic

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, my survey is nothing but questions about rogue tank. 100% rogue tank season

[faint bough]

my survey just asked for 30 different angles of full body nudes..? wtf blozz?

[sour patrol]

Only 30?

[uneven linden]

whats the max renown level for manaforge vandals this week?

[ruby totem]

Right? Why roll the dice

[mellow pilot]

Probably 4?

Would need to log and see where I'm at

[uneven linden]

4 was last week no?

[meager totem]

yeah its 5

[noble kestrel]

Ye, 5 this week

[uneven linden]

ty

[mellow pilot]

5, exactly what I said

[uneven linden]

haha

[mellow pilot]

[clear dune]

is it only me, or was the tank situation in m+ never this bad before?

[iron belfry]

its bad yeah. tank has too much responsibility and most ppl cba

[meager totem]

its been a thing for a while now

[iron belfry]

dps is more fun what can you do

[woeful geyser]

dont let any tank lie to you with that "responsibility" bs lmao, its the biggest brain-off role in the game for m+ unless you actually push high

[left crow]

Tanking is a strange thing, it is pretty easy and you don't even have to know exact routes (if not pushing high of course). But still there is a certain kind of expectation and self pressure that I totally understand not everyone wants.

[iron belfry]

on low keys i only wake up when my cheat death procs

but for high keys you need to be aware, ppl notice tank mistakes easier than dps or healer mistakes

and when i first started so many idiots flamed me

[left crow]

apart from not making mistakes what helps against flaming is chatting a bit before dungeon. and if it's only one or two friendly snippets, people will forgive mistakes easier

[iron belfry]

yeah thats a good tip

[torn bough]

Random question but which spec do you guys like playing in the open world the most?

[iron belfry]

fatebound assa

with bleed talents

[mellow pilot]

Assa

[hearty fog]

Sub deathstalker with goremaws

[novel cipher]

Yeah just don't be the warrior that came into my group, died a whole bunch, messed up every mechanic we wrote out (like go left for swamp face) and then say "my bad guys I've been up 26 hours" as you lie dead on the ground in a +2 dungeon that we're just barely scraping by and finishing with 20 second or less

Not that I'm seething about that dungeon from yesterday 😊

[ruby totem]

Not to mention some tanks have crazy apm in addition to the responsbility, its a big reason why I wouldn't want to

[ruby totem]

[jovial citrus]

me forgiving the feral druid for eating 4 back to back frontals on db trash cuz he said meow once

[craggy cedar]

guys if i have i5-12400f, 4060ti, how much fps should i have in keys and raid? i have 80 in keys and its not good ig and have some problems

[inland gale]

Don’t

[tough swallow]

subtlety, i rly like the mobility and burst

[clear vector]

Chayy is this loss?

[mellow pilot]

its yours

im telling you rn

(i hope you're shady)

[clear vector]

huntard strikes again

[mellow pilot]

stupid hunters man

[clear vector]

Another devastating loss to the rogue community

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/anotha-one-dj-khaled-the-latin-recording-academy-another-one-one-more-time-gif-2140015848368429184

[royal mantle]

is there catchup for reshii wraps?

[ruby totem]

Need more info what resolution and graphics settings and do you even have a >80 hz monitor

[soft sedge]

anyone know why my northern sky addon/WA just displays alot of errors

everything is up to date

downloaded manaforge WA+anchor

[craggy cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpHIAe_MS4&t=1943s i put like here my graphics and have 144hz monitor

[haughty kelp]

i have a x3d game still runs like shit

[tough swallow]

if you want free fps without watching a 20 min+ video

go to settings and:

• set resolution scale to ~75%
• disable ray tracing if you have it active

its basically what any "get fps" video will tell you

maybe in combination with lowering some other graphics settings

or dissabling vsync

(tho the majority of performance gain simply comes from rendering the game at a lower resolution via scaling)

[wicked night]

any ideas why this keeps happening?

[amber sparrow]

For Alts you can just ask the NPC that upgrades them for a set of wraps and instantly upgrade to the same level as your main

If it’s your main, then I think there’s no limit to the threads that drop so you should be able to upgrade within the week just by playing the game

[neon glen]

wowhead has been acting weird today and clicks don't redirect and I have to open everything in a new tab what in tarnation

[mellow pilot]

i thought i was getting crazy

[hearty fog]

Its good

Try it and you'll see

[faint bough]

They want everyone to subscribe to their newsletter so they are breaking the site on purpose

[fading badger]

Are there any mods like DBM or BigWigs but only show the enemy cooldowns and nothing else?... I'm trying BigWigs and you can't even toggle most of the stuff in it

[haughty kelp]

bruh

[late patrol]

Seeing oribos completely empty is weird man

Shadowlands classic is gonna go so hard

[feral grove]

when do the belt nerfs take place?

[amber sparrow]

11.2.5

[fading badger]

Belt nerfs?..

I thought it was only BiS on Hunter tbh

[late patrol]

Like, I was in the shadowlands hate bandwagon, and still kinda am, but playing through WW, and later going back to shadowlands to pick up some stuff like mounts, etc.

Shadowlands zones were fantastic

And the storytelling of zones at least was brilliant, and actually had some edge to it, the quests were genuinely interesting, clever and had some depth

Revendreth, with the aristocrats, castle nathria, the houses, the ember ward

So far War Within has nothing on this mate, and the little of dragonflight I played doesn't either

Revendreth is straight up an open world game, there is so much verticality, and this is true for pretty much every zone in shadowlands

Genuinely the only things that are bad about shadowlands are maybe the covenants and the story, content wise it had amazing stuff

I also like how isolated it is, so you can play "just shadowlands", or level specifically in shadowlands without going to a zone and suddenly you're in fucking cataclysm and they are still talking about deathwing

[coral torrent]

Is there a delve guide somewhere or recommended curios?

[hearty fog]

what would you want in a delve guide

[coral torrent]

i havent played since phase 1 and I dont know what specs or curios to use for bron

brann

[hearty fog]

set bran to healer

set curios to whatever you want

none of them matter

brans going to troll you anyway

[worldly forge]

Probably Hatarang and Sands of Karesh

[versed sand]

hey guys, so whats looking like the best m+ spec out the rogues?

[hearty fog]

the one you have the most fun on

[versed sand]

i like em all tbh

[trail stream]

crazy talk

[hearty fog]

then play all of them

switch it up from dungeon to dungeon

[versed sand]

got a dagger crafted and think of crafting a fist wep just to multi spec xD

[mellow pilot]

Right now is almost bis for a lot of classes

[queen oasis]

Real talk, depends on what level you play at.
But i believe that m+ spec is more about the comp you run and the key
So all are good atm
But fuck outlaw

[ocean sable]

What spec would you guys play for mainly m+ pugs? I like both sub and assa so I kinda just wanna play what will do better in that scenario.

[mellow pilot]

Are you playing the highest possible key levels?

[ocean sable]

12-14 ish

So no

[mellow pilot]

If not, your performance will be hindered by tanks being bad, healers being bad, bad routes, bad rotation, etcetcetc before your spec takes blame

[ocean sable]

Ok so I just play whatever I feel like. Ty!

[mellow pilot]

So you can genuinely play whatever you feel is fucking awesome

[queen oasis]

This exactly 👍

[zinc charm]

[neon glen]

[zinc charm]

I still wonder why people still give that guy credibility

I'm pretty sure in shadowlands he "forgot" to add the legendary bow to the sim profile too

[worldly forge]

MM is really bad rn

Performance shows in Logs

[zealous halo]

imagine MM got nerfed by like 20% on ptr

[unreal gulch]

I mean its also the guy that hid sims behind a paywall afaik

[neon glen]

how much did fdk get nerfed? it was like 3-4 nerfs in a row

[hearty fog]

not enough

[neon glen]

well there is class tuning tonight so it might be another one

[misty spade]

He tried the kalamazi approach ?

What did he get wrong though? After a backlash

[glad harness]

That MM isnt dobbie tier and is pretty fucking good?

[plush dune]

Well you see mm is only second best instead of best (their high roll is still best) so it's unplayable garbage

[craggy cedar]

hey guys, can someone recommend addon for chat?

[hearty fog]

prat

[neon glen]

chattynator

[craggy cedar]

ty

[zealous halo]

ls: glass

[tough swallow]

^ best chat addon

[iron belfry]

google services down for you as well?

[left crow]

Yeah, the difference a tank makes who is able to gather up trash nice and tight is crazy.

Also MM with a bit of proc luck slaps real hard. Considering you press like 3 buttons.

[mellow pilot]

Me and gf yesterday, priory 10

[iron belfry]

nerf MM

[mellow pilot]

We both 709 btw

Tank was doing good pulls

[worldly forge]

You beat her, even tho she has 2 Brains inside her !?

[mellow pilot]

(she actually beat me, I died once and her details has her doing a bit more DPS than me LOL)

[worldly forge]

Second Brain diff

you had no chance

[mellow pilot]

Real

[worldly forge]

Its like a IRL PI

frfr

[left crow]

MM also is really fun (for me) somehow big damage just makes me grin, while on assa I have to work for it.

[ember nest]

mm is super rng but still fun

just dont look at the dps bar

you can highroll or not 2 m up and down in st wonder how much in aoe

[mellow pilot]

On that specific priory it was fun watching her go 30+M DPS on some pulls while the rest of us were like

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[ember nest]

dont worry 30m is only the first super saiyan form

[mellow pilot]

I've seen clips...

O.o

[iron belfry]

isnt mm very rng?

[noble kestrel]

power team

[rare solar]

Had an MM on soulhunters normal do 10mil yesterday

Over the whole fight

surely that's fine

[mellow pilot]

Yesterday I raided normal to gear some guild Alts

Must say it went well

Araz went from P1 to last phase without any damage amp

[rare solar]

I had a saladar normal without platforms

[mellow pilot]

Yeah mine too, he just blows up xD

[ruby totem]

Seems healthy

[static parcel]

I hadn't seen platforms until heroic

[mellow pilot]

I saw them during w1

[woeful geyser]

MM hunter rn is literally playing roulette

the dmg variance is so gigantic, its insane

[safe estuary]

how do you view hotfixes as they come out

is it like patch notes

[mellow pilot]

I check wowhead

[pure lion]

Are we able to solo soak The Hunt with cloak on Soul Hunters?

[fringe umbra]

Yes

[tough swallow]

blue tracker on wowhead usually has the official hotfix notes.
If you mean hotfix data, you can look at spell data dumps of simulationcraft

[mossy cloud]

i discovered /lean today

[bright wraith]

anyone knows what the reason for freeze -> screen goes whiteish and "no reaction" pops, but only for big graphical effects could be, occurring with addons on and off ? Maybe there is something like yep, thats definitely XY

[random nacelle]

Does shadowstep cancel wall break on mythic Fractilus?

[warm pagoda]

I like that the troll /lean is just an alternate sit animation

THIS ISN'T LEANING, THIS IS SITTING

[blazing sable]

how to check dps done to plexus' shield on logs?

[random nacelle]

Ok, it's safe to shadowstep, but not immediately

[mossy cloud]

he do be chilling tho

[warm pagoda]

You can filter warcraft logs into stage 2 and then change all enemies to the boss

[warm pagoda]

He ain't leaning though

[blazing sable]

that dps ain't showing in dmg meters?

[warm pagoda]

No clue about doing it in damage meters, you mentioned logs so I assumed warcraftlogs

[blazing sable]

Ye ye I found it, ty

just was wondering cuz while in fight dps meters didn't move at all and I sent fully

[royal mantle]

how long does it take for rio to be shown from previous seasons?

[placid creek]

anyone know if its possible to track when i DONT have a supercharged combo point ? with wa

[neon glen]

it is yes

[placid creek]

I found it ! 🥷 so happy, wanna reminder to symbols prepull

[formal fulcrum]

Right away. Try going to rio account settings and refresh blizzard account data (or something like that)

[night pier]

He highrolled

It's insane how proc based MM is rn

Absoutly disgusting

[pastel pine]

can I see logs of dungeon if someone else did them , without having link ( not sure if someone did) ?

[novel cipher]

if they were logged you can just look that charater up on WCL yeah

if it's yourself you can look that up too

you go to WCL and change it from manaforge omega to mythic+ s3

at the end of the table for the individual dungeons it'll tell you if it was logged or scraped from blizzard's leaderboards

[faint bough]

stop flexing your rank 885 on us

[novel cipher]

lol

top 1000 rogue coming for your parses

[cedar harbor]

guys is this good? I play sub rogue

I think I might be worlds nr1

[trail stream]

a raid leader has seen these parses and chose to invite the player 😄

[novel cipher]

whoa hold up there cowboy

you need a license to go that fast

[trail stream]

how many mythic bosses are puggable currently? ;O

[twilit thicket]

You guys have any advice for handling swarm puddles in Ara Kara 2nd boss ?

I've gotten to a key level where it nearly one shots me

But I literally can't dps without taking one in the intermission

[iron wharf]

is there a way to check whether a sepecifc damage taken from a skill is avoidance-able on wcl log? or from anywhere really

[neon glen]

if feint's aoe reduction works on it, it is affected by avoidance as well

[glad harness]

Million dollar question, does feint work on it? Straight up 50/50

[neon glen]

well, some clown already made a list of that and it's in the pins

[warm pagoda]

I just don't look at the lost and gamble with my life

Feint is used based on vibes

[warm pagoda]

Please explain yourself

https://tenor.com/view/deer-gif-22652112

[neon glen]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-run-gif-19844330

[warm pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-deer-wrestle-wrestling-anime-gif-17501517

[neon glen]

chills I need to rewatch nichijou

[warm pagoda]

Same

[sour patrol]

Wonder if he could do this to a train

[craggy cedar]

guys can someone help? I use omnicc for my cooldowns but my dots on enemу layered on top of each other also using wa and plater

[tame cobalt]

hey guys is anyone having troubles with automatically going out of stealth?

[fringe umbra]

Unequip your intellect dagger from the nightfall event

[shell hill]

Or change your disc belt away from charged bolts

[tame cobalt]

i have neither of those, i do have the dagger from the raid tho. It only happens near allies i guess some buffs take me out of stealth?

[mellow pilot]

A video of that happening please

[unreal gulch]

You mean the int dagger?

[tame cobalt]

lmao yes

[unreal gulch]

[warm pagoda]

Its always the dagger

[tame cobalt]

ok that seem to be the problem for some reason

[west trout]

I have a question about weak aura. I was wondering if it's possible to have a sound play but on like a 1.5 sec delay. Anyone know how to do something like that?

[unreal gulch]

I mean yeah, it always happens with stuff like that, probably because it never sees any testing anyways, as you should never wear an int dagger on rogue

[west trout]

Like 1.5 sec after pressing a particular button, I want to play a sound. I was tinkering around with options, but couldn't quite get it.

[tame heart]

Heyyy. How do yall manage those rogue specific stealth moves? I have a bar where the stealth only abilites appear in, when im in stealth. Do yall do that too, or have them in the permanenr action bar?

[tame cobalt]

troubleshoot=read tooltip kek

[west trout]

i think there's an option to have it change. I just manually moved specific abilities to the stealth bar

[tame heart]

Got it

[tough swallow]

most rogues have the stealth and regular bar the same setup

[west trout]

Hey fuu while you're here, is there anyone I can direct WA related questions to?

[west trout]

can I bother you about the above message about WAs?

[tough swallow]

the best place to ask wa related questions is typically the wa discord

[west trout]

ooh good call. I guess I'll go chase that down

[tough swallow]

for the 1.5 sec question, i assume you can make a timer event for it

https://discord.gg/weakauras

[fluid dragon]

They really just outhere being like.. "Whats a Rogue?"

[ember nest]

the rogue week 4 slammer

[ruby totem]

You know i know people meme on the ret stuff and them whining (justified to meme on ret) but boomkins low key on a different level of baby

[tough swallow]

also one thing to keep in mind, boomy does insane aoe

[dusty cloud]

is there still a addon/wa that shows/blocks regions?

for lfg

[ember nest]

damn big racist

and yea there is

there is also a wa to auto decline some specs

[dusty cloud]

only slightly racist against oce keys

[hoary violet]

[hearty fog]

https://tenor.com/view/brent-my-hero-aus-top-guy-gif-17971844794065873200

[dusty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

[terse torrent]

!wa

[ionic forum]

Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.

[mellow pilot]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[bitter path]

@primal owl

[mellow pilot]

Whats up with people tagging TCs from other classes lately?

[iron belfry]

im gonna go tag royal in mage transmog discord

[thin roost]

What spec are people using for lower level keys (10 and lower) for max dps?

Assuming chain pulls and nothing super massive. (Hard to get stealth rest)

I see outlaw and sub are climbing in rank and I am wondering if they might be better suited for the lower keys.

[glad harness]

[iron belfry]

literally doesnt matter in that scenario

pick whatever but play well

[queen nova]

Hey guys i started using stream and id love to switch spec with a push of a button is there macro to it?

[dull sigil]

so true king

[queen nova]

als if there is a macro to change profile of talents i would be grateful for some info

[mellow pilot]

you can create multiple talent pages

[queen nova]

yeah i meant swapping between them

[mellow pilot]

Im not a TC xD

[mellow pilot]

oh, oooh. No idea, i just go and click

[night pier]

I mena

rogues are stealthy

You can't see em

[faint bough]

like john cena

[mellow pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-wwe-urstrulyshailesh-urstrulyshailesh-gif-gif-20805542

[primal owl]

Why have I been pinged in here twice in the last week

hi

[haughty kelp]

guys i personally dont think there is enough conversation about why i gotta keep puttin poisons on every hour

they gotta change that in midnight

[spare dune]

True, I think battle shout too should stay on my character forever after its first application from a warrior too

[left crow]

tbh I miss cooking my own poisons, they should bring that back

if I were a game dev:
normal poisons as they are now
brew my own poisons, they stay for 2 hours
epic quest line for special poisons, they stay the whole id

[mellow pilot]

The first one was probably a mistake, we do have another voodoo in here. This time... I've no idea mate

[primal owl]

Nah I figured it out

we good

[inland gale]

It’s thematic. But tbh I think they should get rid of the cast time

[serene folio]

anyone tried specs in legion remix?

what feels better

[mellow pilot]

it didnt launch yet

[rotund gazelle]

forgive me for being a noob but does this work on heroic and mythic?

[neon glen]

yes

[serene folio]

u can play it in ptr

[mellow pilot]

Feeling a spec in ptr is... Not optimal.
Also, it's a fun game mode, whatever you choose will be good enough

[woeful geyser]

my brother in christ, its remix

its literally the same specs you have rn, nothing changes

except that at some point you will do 40billion dps and 1tap everything lol

[iron belfry]

its just glorified timewalking event

[woeful geyser]

its the replacement for the ussual "new expansion soon, here is a EXP boost so you can level up some classes you maybe wanna play in the new expansion"

level characters in a specific expansion while slowly going dumb strong and earn cosmetic stuff during it

[haughty kelp]

what do i pick i have every class at 70 and 80 hmmm

[inland gale]

Demon Hunter

So you’re ready for the new spec

[iron belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

thats how new dh will be

[rare solar]

Obviously

I do hope its fun though

[old lark]

god I love the glitch on 1st boss gambit where it just decides to not spawn one of the orbs

its ok I didnt want my key

[woeful geyser]

it will be broken as hell for atleast 2 patches, and because of that 90% of players will say its fun

[rare solar]

Idk rogue is broken all the time and no one likes it

[mellow pilot]

I do 🙁

[devout laurel]

that's why our bugs never get fixed, those of us left still playing Rogue will play it regardless

[rare solar]

The only class played less than rogue is evoker, most likely cause it's racelocked to dragon and the newest class in the game

~235k evoker parses in heroic past 2 weeks, ~245k rogue parses

59% of those rogue ones are assa

[mellow pilot]

I'm telling you RN if evokers weren't locked to dragons and their lack of transmog, they would be higher

[late patrol]

What is this bro

Who asked for this

[mellow pilot]

Devastation feels satisfying and pretty cool to play

[late patrol]

na'vi at home ahh race

[rare solar]

Oh 100%, my personal feeling about the class aside being racelocked sucks

Cant wait for non elf dh

[mellow pilot]

We stopped caring years ago

We have dwarf, fire dwarf, rock dwarf

[rare solar]

Tauren, tauren with different horns

Troll, green troll

Orc, brown orc

Gnome, half a gnome on robot legs

[late patrol]

We couldn't get an actual race? Like Kobolds, or idk, ascended nerubians

Something actually different and unique that isn't a palette swap

[mellow pilot]

Complain on the forums

[late patrol]

Hell, even allied races could be better, Kul Tirans were aight

[rare solar]

No that costs more dev time and with that i mean momey

[late patrol]

Literally just reuse the same models we have for enemies

With some animation reworks

and some customization

[rare solar]

?????

[late patrol]

They are already doing that by reusing the elf rig

to do the animations for these guys

[rare solar]

Do you know how many fucking animations they need to make a single spec work

[late patrol]

That's for them to figure out, not me

Half the animations are already available in enemies

[rare solar]

Imo they should start merging customization options into race families and at the same time rework racials to not influence combat at all

[late patrol]

Racials to not influence combat? Wdym

racials should influence combat more

Races need to be more unique

[mellow pilot]

That's just stupid

[rare solar]

Yes i love being race locked to Night elf to make this specific dungeon route work

[late patrol]

Skill issue, why did you pick Night Elf

Go level a tauren

[mellow pilot]

He just told you

Why

[rare solar]

Guys sorry i have to race swap for this dungeon to dwarf so we can do the poisons on this pull

[late patrol]

Do a different dungeon

[mellow pilot]

You don't play this game often do you

[late patrol]

No

not at all

[mellow pilot]

Figures

[late patrol]

If some races have different strengths then what the fuck

I'm sure the dungeons are not impossible to complete

without a specific race

[mellow pilot]

It isn't "some"

It's like the same 3 races