Absolute old fart smh my head
#wow-general
worldly forge
ember basin
Damn, and y'all play rogue? Do you have carpal tunnel?
I know I probably do, I'm a programmer
worldly forge
Only if you play Outlaw
mellow pilot
We ain't playing outlaw
worldly forge
mellow pilot
mellow pilot
Sub and assa are pretty chill
worldly forge
Sub is fast Too in cds
mellow pilot
Also, you're from Spain?
worldly forge
But outside of it its 
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Also, you're from Spain?
No, I'm Spanish and Cuban, it's just my ethnicity
I'm from the Americas
mellow pilot
Ohhhh
worldly forge
mellow pilot
Mi Hermano!
ember basin
My upbringing and heritage are tho, I did in fact grow up in that
ember basin
Mi Hermano!
Hermana*
mellow pilot
Mi Hermana*!
worldly forge
DID YOU JUST ASSUME THE GENDER ROYAL
worldly forge
I THOUGHT BETTER OF YOU
warm pagoda
Hola. No hablos espanol. Una cerveza por favor
ember basin
DID YOU JUST ASSUME THE GENDER ROYAL
It's fine, I don't use the pronoun on feature
worldly forge
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IDC if people assume, but I will tell them just cuz
warm pagoda
The only Spanish I need to know as a Brit
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The only Spanish I need to know as a Brit
Which part of Britain?
mellow pilot
Brothers from another country
warm pagoda
Which part of Britain?
The bit that thankfully ain't London 
worldly forge
Brothers from another country
Yes
ember basin
The bit that thankfully ain't London <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Well, my boyfriend is Scottish, and my bestie is also Scottish, specifically Dundee
worldly forge
The bit that thankfully ain't London <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Bri'ain
mellow pilot
I'm Portuguese so I can understand like 70-80% of what Spanish people say
ember basin
I'm Portuguese so I can understand like 70-80% of what Spanish people say
That's wild, my grandfather is from Portugal
warm pagoda
Well, my boyfriend is Scottish, and my bestie is also Scottish, specifically Dun...
Nah, northern england here
mellow pilot
He must have the most beautiful mustache
worldly forge
I'm Portuguese so I can understand like 70-80% of what Spanish people say
Im german so i can understand 0% of what spanisch people say
noble kestrel
Nah, northern england here
upt norf
ember basin
He must have the most beautiful mustache
He's a true blue Galego, used to pray in Latin
The Spanish I know is both Cuban Spanish and some of my lingo, I've recently discovered is Galician π and I thought it was like the common.
mellow pilot
The Spanish I know is both Cuban Spanish and some of my lingo, I've recently dis...
I have a few cuban Co workers, they pretty cool
I always try to portuguese-spanish talk to them
They laugh. A lot.
ember basin
I always try to portuguese-spanish talk to them
It's funny cuz I do the same thing although TBF some words sound similar to modern Spanish
iron belfry
all the toxic ones rerolled dh in legion
noble kestrel
Right?!
Anyway welcome to the most toxic community to exist, the rogues
it's true, they put full set under my transmog
mellow pilot
We still hold the title, even if there's no actual arguments to support it
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all the toxic ones rerolled dh in legion
Good, DH sucks /J
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Right?!
Anyway welcome to the most toxic community to exist, the rogues
Toxic? Y'all are so nice. Ive met paladins more toxic
mellow pilot
That's just a different kind of light
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π€£
Paladins are so mean tho, the self righteousness is real
And I'm not saying they all are but
noble kestrel
I imagine part of it is just sheer volume of people.
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Yes it is
mellow pilot
Which is a problem we only have if Rogue becomes temporarily fotm*
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It's very apparent tho, cuz paladin is very easy to play
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Which is a problem we only have if Rogue becomes temporarily fotm*
Oh you mean like in BFA?
The BFA era of rogues was something
mellow pilot
That was mostly S1 sub in zul
iron belfry
i remember i was getting PI in SoD shadowlands because sub was doing the most dmg.
they think PI is just 20% extra dmg, just like some ppl treat bloodlust
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they think PI is just 20% extra dmg, just like some ppl treat bloodlust
I've had people PI me and it's made me self conscious so much π I hate when I know it
It's like they put a spotlight on me
mellow pilot
You were the chosen one
iron belfry
i removed the weakaura that said when i got PI just for that
and pugs give it randomly i didnt even had CDs
vital geode
Welcome to rogue
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Welcome to rogue
Thanks, I chose outlaw, we'll see how far I get
I'm having fun tho, I'm taking my time, I do find the combo count build up and combo count spending a lot easier than fire mage so far π€£
And I say that cuz fire mage is just impatient ADHD
vital geode
I'm having fun tho, I'm taking my time, I do find the combo count build up and c...
Enjoy the game and do in wow whatever makes u happy
Wow can be played in 10000 ways
tight edge
Friendly reminder to spend your season 2-only currencies as some will turn into vendor items in season 3:
- Algari Token of Merit: 500 gold each
- Puzzling Cartel Chip: 250 gold each
- Radiant Echo: 2 gold each
- Coffer Key Shard: 1 gold each
tight edge
if you can turn it into a transmog or something before s3 its worth it, as the gold is pure scraps
dusk turtle
What is the go-to spec for m+/raids currently?
glad harness
Whichever you like the most
warm pagoda
Friendly reminder to spend your season 2-only currencies as some will turn into ...
200 gold for my echoes, stonks
noble kestrel
I should finish off the radiant echo achievements.
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Friendly reminder to spend your season 2-only currencies as some will turn into ...
Noooooo not my echos! I have over 25 of them π
I'ma do delves today, finish my meter π€£
tight edge
im going for achievements and transmogs
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Whichever you like the most
Is your rogue named koffing?
noble kestrel
im going for achievements and transmogs
Why are the "Do a lot of Delves / Use a lot of keys" achievements so massive 
woeful geyser
Is your rogue named koffing?
he is a based π± player
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he is a based π± player
He's a druid?! Imposter
warm pagoda
Why are the "Do a lot of Delves / Use a lot of keys" achievements so massive <:d...
I have a guildie on 800 delves at the moment, he scares me
tight edge
Why are the "Do a lot of Delves / Use a lot of keys" achievements so massive <:d...
to give us casual tryhards something to grind π
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I have a guildie on 800 delves at the moment, he scares me
Wtf π€£
warm pagoda
He already did the 500 keys achievement
noble kestrel
to give us casual tryhards something to grind π
true
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If delves had a pet or pet dungeons, I'd do them more often
noble kestrel
He already did the 500 keys achievement
hero, tell them they own
warm pagoda
hero, tell them they own
No I don't want to encourage this behaviour
tight edge
i got the 1000 achievement yesterday
noble kestrel
i got the 1000 achievement yesterday
goddamn, incredible work
I'm at 204/500. Maybe I'll finish the first one in TWW..
tight edge
i work a lot from home so... π
noble kestrel
Hell yeah. I assume this'll carry forward into the next expansion if they do more Delves anyway but, urgh
woeful geyser
I have a guildie on 800 delves at the moment, he scares me
close your windows at night
that guy is a psycopath
meager totem
theres hundreds of wow achievs that take longer to do than 1k delves, that shit is relatively fast
and thats assuming you have 1 license, if you got more the delve one is even easier
scenic flame
Unrelated to rogue, but can somebody explain why this burst macro does not work for prot-war:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [@cursor] reset=80 Ravager, Champion's Spear
/use 14
/cast Avatar
it does everything correct besides casting Champion's Spear (and yes I skilled it)
rare solar
are u pressing it twice
scenic flame
yes
woeful geyser
Unrelated to rogue, but can somebody explain why this burst macro does not work ...
is the trinket something that is on the gcd
and like, isnt champions spear a aoe circle ability
glad harness
The cast sequence hasnt reset if you press twice
So it will only cast the first available spell in your squence which is ravager, skip champions spear since gcd is active and then move on if Im not entirely on acid
glad harness
Im pre-concluding Im on acid, me hungy
scenic flame
thats the trinked
scenic flame
and like, isnt champions spear a aoe circle ability
yes, its a circle you set down at your mouse. Same as Ravager.
scenic flame
is the trinket something that is on the gcd
If I unequip the trinked, it still only cast Ravage and not Champion's Spear. I used to play with this macro and it used to work.
glad harness
What happens if you swap Champions spear and ravager in the sequence?
mellow pilot
Is ravager and spear off gcd?
scenic flame
What happens if you swap Champions spear and ravager in the sequence?
then it works, thanks
glad harness
We love spaghetti code
scenic flame
well...it now cast Champion Spear, Ravager and Avatar but it does not use my trinket It works 100% now, I forgot I need to target something for the trinket
mellow pilot
Fuck yeah
dawn jackal
what do people use for devestation, scale commander or flameshaper?
woeful geyser
flameshaper rn
cloud jungle
Guys I don't know what to play anymore for next patch q.q I'm making my RL mad because of it
spare dune
Roll a 1d3
cloud jungle
Why a d3?
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Bestie
fiery coyote
bord
noble kestrel
Needs more purple, but a very good bird
wild plaza
bog bord
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Ok this is a very stupid quest but how the heck do I get here
Everywhere I go the walls block it off
mellow pilot
can you get a bigger picture?
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can you get a bigger picture?
mellow pilot
cant you fly?
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cant you fly?
No, rogue campaign
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I figured it out
This quest has taught me how to stealth lowkey lol the AI for this is pretty smart
Although, I've played enough zelda to be smarter
Hell yea
noble kestrel
Oh, it was the Dreadblades intro quest, haha. Yeah, that has a very specific, linear route in it.
mellow pilot
yarghblades
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Oh, it was the Dreadblades intro quest, haha. Yeah, that has a very specific, li...
This campaign is so fun lol although I did the mage one so :P
The mage one, although not the main campaign, the real skill was the hidden appearances for me
mellow pilot
The mage one, although not the main campaign, the real skill was the hidden appe...
how come
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how come
Aluneth
You had to go around the world polymorphing specific mobs
And then you had to wait RNG to see if a sheep appeared in your hall. It would show in the chat
mellow pilot
And then you had to wait RNG to see if a sheep appeared in your hall. It would s...
ohh the arcane one, pretty funny animations
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ohh the arcane one, pretty funny animations
The sheep exploded π€£
Dude was going around turning people into sheep
mellow pilot
sounds like a good plan
ember basin
No! Do not go around turning people into sheep
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That being said, the mage hall was mostly combat in the funny ways, now its kinda shallow. But during its hay-day the combat was fun
I think it mostly revolved around quick thinking
@mellow pilot That rogue from yesterday π I just saw his name
mellow pilot
<@256188402116984832> That rogue from yesterday π I just saw his name
rogues are so based holy moly
inland gale
rogues are so based holy moly
rouge*
silk peak
I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere else and I missed it, but is there somewhere that talks about which Rogue spec(s) are looking to be the top performers for M+ and raid in 11.2?
rare solar
Assa > sub/outlaw as usual
inland gale
I bet its a sub tier
faint bough
I apologize if this is mentioned somewhere else and I missed it, but is there so...
whichever you play best on will be the best
rare solar
This is unfair >:I I've done all this on my mage
Time to do it again
ember basin
Time to do it again
Its been 10 years, just make it warbound <:(
Especially the honor levels!
mellow pilot
those are supposed to be warbound
rare solar
Yeah honourlevels are
ember basin
those are supposed to be warbound
They're not D:
faint bough
can you unlock all the legion stuff still besides mage tower?
mellow pilot
yes
inland gale
They're not D:
i think you just need to progress the campaign farther
rare solar
Im supposed to have the first 2 slots
Takes a bit of time or some relogs iirc
mellow pilot
mmmm do i care enough to go for the tfury dreadblades
they can be quite fast to get
faint bough
they can be quite fast to get
have you done the thunderfury one?
mellow pilot
i've done them all
faint bough
i have the dreadblades, do i just run vault of the wardens and neltharions lair to get the bindings at this point?
mellow pilot
did you do the legion campaign on that alt?
faint bough
nope
mellow pilot
or main*
faint bough
this toon was made in df
mellow pilot
you need atleast 4/5 chapters of stormheim done
to unlock 1 npc you'll need for the artifact
ember basin
Is this worth buying?
mellow pilot
it is used for 1 single motive and you'd have to go out of your way to actually do its purpose. other than that, its a fun ability to spam
wowhead it
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FARANELL IS HERE?!
mellow pilot
LIKE HE SHOULD
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He's so iconic
BELMONT IS HERE TOO?!?!
How involved is the shadowblade in Sylvanas's plot???
So many here helped sylvanas, and so many here are on the desolate council
ember basin
don't ask too many questions
The shadowblade basically own undercity as of present lore though!
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Lmao
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Calia doesn't know either! THATS INSANE
Oh this is going to be fun
Oh please chris metzen, please let them assassinate Calia and make it look like an accident in order to further keep the peace of azeroth as the secret society they are
And have a scapegoat planned
ember basin
6 desolate council members and 3 of em are shadowblade, thats wild
And we all know the dark ranger will side with them so really 4
mellow pilot
The Shadowblades were a menace during legion
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The Shadowblades were a menace during legion
Good
proud barn
anyone know if there's a way around the raid bug where you can't get renown 20 and are stuck at 2499 renown 19?
i just want the mount D:
glad harness
You have to make an offering to bwonsamdi
teal pike
faint bough
sand stone
It worked! Many thanks! π
warm pagoda
BIRD. OBTAINED.
noble kestrel
Bird with hat
novel cipher
Birdge!
warm pagoda
Still my default mount on my rogue.
scenic flame
how does tie work in the role system?
meager totem
it rolls again but you dont see the reroll
scenic flame
annoying, that they removed personal loot was a big mistake π
sage tulip
Is hardmode out on August 5? I was like 90% sure it was not until 8/12, but my guild is gaslighting me
mellow pilot
Hard mode of what
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Royal, perfect timing
mellow pilot
Yo
sage tulip
Tazavesh hard mode*
mellow pilot
Yes
mellow pilot
Tazavesh hard mode*
Hmmmmmmmm
I don't have certainty on the answer. I know that M0 will probably open up, but hard mode I'm not sure
sage tulip
Yea I feel like this should be easy to confirm, I'll keep digging. ty!
Okay, I knew I wasn't crazy
mellow pilot
Doesn't that say that tazavesh isn't part of the list
Oh you were saying it was not
Yeah it seems you're in the right homie
Shove that on their butts now
ember basin
Okay, I knew I wasn't crazy
Wait.....the eco dome is a dungeon???
I thought the eco dome was like a pet thing
mellow pilot
That might be ecological succession
plush dune
...why
noble kestrel
I think it's a different eco dome. There's a few.
plush dune
When new pet dungeons
sage tulip
There's pet dungeons in the game?
sage tulip
When the elite 4
noble kestrel
When new celestial tournament
noble kestrel
I'm sad pet battle dungeons stopped 'cos they were neat. Someone(s) clearly had a lot of fun making them
ember basin
They aren't very good but they do exist
They are good in terms of battles and stuff
But the terrible part is the rewards
ember basin
There's pet dungeons in the game?
Yea, very old dungeons but they're pretty solid
However 90% of the time you use Valkyr and Ikky so it gets boring
And the rewards are mid
ember basin
I'm sad pet battle dungeons stopped 'cos they were neat. Someone(s) clearly had ...
Same! I want more π I love pet battles
warm pagoda
I've never had one before so... pass!
plush dune
i havent had a poptart in so long idr what my favorite was
inland gale
Wild berry
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Mine is Hot Fudge sundae
frozen river
fluid grove
Hey in Max's stream they said the rogue DR poison stacks with multiple rogues. Does anyone know the diminishing returns on 2 rogues? 3 rogues?
inland gale
Itβs multiplicative
fluid grove
so for the first rogue it's 3.6% does that mean 2 rogues are 7.2%?
inland gale
No
fickle forge
The 2nd is 3.6% of the reduced amount
inland gale
It means that damage would be 96.4 after the first rogue and then you multiply that by 3.6
fickle forge
Not of the original 100
ember basin
You really start to appreciate teleport when you play any other class fr
Also the amount of times I go to press my blink and it does nothing is atrocious lmao my muscle memory is fucked
split nebula
Think of it like compounded interest..but compounded atrophic poisoning
low cypress
hello everyone, quick question for shadowmelding the last boss in dfc. Do i shadowmeld the shadowblast right before the cast or right before it explodes?
toxic flower
Does zero have a stream channel
mellow pilot
Does zero have a stream channel
Who?
sturdy silo
Please help. How to change name text color? Base profile was copied from VesperalTV
left crow
Does zero have a stream channel
He might be a bit occulying with real life stuff in the moment, not sure though....
iron belfry
are the horrific visions enchants staying next patch ?
meager totem
no
mellow pilot
GG (don't) go next
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Ya know another thing that trips me out rn
Bro I have to carry food as a rogue
And my mage can't make food for her!
Ok rogues
Hear me out
mellow pilot
Bro I have to carry food as a rogue
Why
You have recuperate
An account wide ability
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Why
I keep forgetting that
Also, this is such a nice touch
Dude
Like the fact they added science is amazing
AYOOOOO
Why this guy trying to hit
mellow pilot
He's trying his best
topaz ibex
shoot your shot, king
topaz ibex
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
ember basin
It just has a longer recharge
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ehhhhhhhhhhhh
Hey, I agree, it should be a houdini smoke screen but blizzard can't be bothered to do that
They gave it to mages instead
Can I keybind the tiny stealth icon? or does it have to be there and I have to take a slot on my bar?
glad harness
mellow pilot
Ctrl-f1 should be the default Keybind for it btw
Also no you don't need stealth in your bars
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<:monkaStop:950531133983047710>
I'm sorry Koffing π I main a mage, I don't have those tiny actions
Although I wish blink had one so I don't have it taking a bar slot
ember basin
Ctrl-f1 should be the default Keybind for it btw
Yea I figured out quick keybind
Why is this guy always involved
He's such a funny little dude lmao
analog forge
I just bought a retail resub with gold thinking that'd allow me to play mop classic.. why doesn't it?! I swear an active sub worked across both
Nvm it does, had to restart the launcher for it to work lol
ember basin
Every 6 minutes???
My mage one is every 5 minutes
It should be the same for rogues, they're literally escape artists
fringe umbra
Its 90s in mop
rotund patrol
it used to reset on death too 
past yoke
90 seconds cheat death? the fuck
sterile gyro
new rogue here, should you always try to go in stealth to use ambush for cp or only when you adrenaline rush
sterile gyro
if you're talking about outlaw, i'd advise you to ask that directly in <#3169236...
lol i tried, they talking about tacos
mellow pilot
... classic outlaw
jade panther
Hello guys, does someone have a weakaura to share that allows me to tell me when i am the target of several shooters in mm+
like sharpshooters in priory for example
or bow skulls in top
mellow pilot
thats a really specific weak aura, i could try to ask @sharp elm for help on that
If anyone can do it, its her
sharp elm
Hello guys, does someone have a weakaura to share that allows me to tell me when...
There's a Targetted spells WA that plays sounds and such when you are the target of a targetted spell, I use it but I don't know what the page is for it
Also, in my Cell profile I can see incoming casts on players
and if there are multiple casts it indicates that too
I don't know if that's baseline cell, my cell profile (I didn't make the profile), or if that's the aforementioned WA adding details to party frames
I am sure somebody else has targetted spells WA, it's a pretty commonly used WA
That's the one
fringe umbra
Should be able to find it by just searching
Ye
Its some chinese dude doing it originally
sharp elm
This is where it is in cell, I think it's baked in, for showing it on unit frames
I played a healer for a lot of the season and relied on this frequently
hollow talon
any consensus on what spec is best/safest to prio for next season?
mellow pilot
no
hollow talon
im hearing both sub and assa with outlaw as a wildcard
mellow pilot
its a waiting room until heroic week basically, theres still tuning to be done
hollow talon
fair enough
whats it looking like currently on PTR?
guildmate said "sub is pumping"
mellow pilot
PTR numbers don't matter
Sub can be pumping today and a buff/nerf comes tomorrow and up/down it goes
IF you want to choose one, sub/assa are good choices because you'll most likely craft 1 dagger first, and both specs want a dagger
Going outlaw first locks you to outlaw because you'll need to craft a 1handed weapon
hollow talon
i typically go assa first because of weapon reasons yeah
im just feeling a smidge impatient this time around >.<
mellow pilot
If you aren't racing for world first, you can chill
its not like you can't press 2 buttons and change spec
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lol i tried, they talking about tacos
Lmao right??? You go in there and they're fighting about something!
I think tethy's is glitched cuz he has crackers and a monkey on his shoulder at the same time on the same spot
mellow pilot
I think tethy's is glitched cuz he has crackers and a monkey on his shoulder at ...
It's called multitasking
scenic flame
If you guys could decide whether the Rogue would get a deeper rework in the next expansion or just a slight change, what would you choose?
mellow pilot
Rogue or spec?
ember basin
If you guys could decide whether the Rogue would get a deeper rework in the next...
What
scenic flame
Rogue or spec?
Rogue
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Next addon?
mellow pilot
addon is german for expansion
ember basin
It is???
mellow pilot
yep
ember basin
Wait so do we confuse the Germans when we say addon's and it means something else?
scenic flame
Nah, I wrote it wrong
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If you guys could decide whether the Rogue would get a deeper rework in the next...
I am not a rogue main, but from what I gather from these little goobers who are, I think the one thing that would be fun is if outlaw didn't have so much RNG.
They all play Sub rn, hardly anyone is playing outlaw cuz it's so painful
scenic flame
Personally, I would be for a deeper rework. Adding more modern "action-arpg" ability's and then reducing button bloat. In that regard, I would even welcome a full rework, if that would lead to more "modern" action-playstyle.
ember basin
Personally, I would be for a deeper rework. Adding more modern "action-arpg" abi...
It sounds like you want to play a windwalker monk lol
The short time I've played one, it's very combo count heavy, not so much fighting.
Idk if this makes sense to anyone else, but I play Warframe and it feels like playing Ash
Or Ryu Hyabusa
It's just all about what you press, I'm curious if I can connect my Xbox controller and play my rogue that way
Ok apparently you can but it's not directly supported by blizzard without an addon π
scenic flame
define modern action playstyle
Basically more ability's that require reflexes, aiming and timing. I would say, the heal-Evoker probably has the most up to date "action-playstyle" in regard to how you have to aim your ability's, have procs and so on. I would take less buttons for more skill-needed-buttons, if that makes sens.
mellow pilot
Hmmmm
I see what you mean, since they actually have to aim their breaths + Breath of eons or whatever its called
they dont just "press buttons and stuff happens" in a really particular way with those abilities
scenic flame
Just has to be designed in a way, that it makes sens for melee and fits the controls used in wow.
frigid monolith
which spec looks better in next raid?
plush dune
mine
mellow pilot
Bel's
woeful geyser
Personally, I would be for a deeper rework. Adding more modern "action-arpg" abi...
what "button bloat"
there are like, 3 specs in the entire game that can say that
and none of them are rogue related
and there is a reason why none of the "action abilitys" games has bigger sucess in the mmo sphere btw 
the top games are not that combat style because it makes PvE combat immediatly kinda akward
tight edge
the quest title and reward dont seem in sync:
ember nest
ahaha
surreal agate
I am not a rogue main, but from what I gather from these little goobers who are,...
There's literally more outlaw parses than sub parses on every raid difficulty in the last few weeks
ember basin
There's literally more outlaw parses than sub parses on every raid difficulty in...
Oh wow, idk raid was the only thing that matters in the game
surreal agate
Good point. It's also true in M+
lapis thorn
What do you guys use for your health bar/player unit frame. I just moved away from elvui but hate the default blizzard one
ivory remnant
Shadow Unit Frames
scenic flame
what "button bloat"
I mean, what exactly "button bloat" is, is subjective at the end of the day. Wow in itself is a high button game, so the baseline is already high (in my personal opinion). The "removal" of SnD was already a good reduction, but I think they could bunch together more stuff. For example, since in sub you basically always use Cold Blood with Secret Technique (even recommended in the guide to macro them together), thats button bloat for me.
tight edge
What do you guys use for your health bar/player unit frame. I just moved away fr...
i see some use cell. Im also about to swap out elvui i think, but the cell settings are kinda wild imo
somber idol
I mean, what exactly "button bloat" is, is subjective at the end of the day. Wow...
That would add really weird gameplay if you would want to optimise
Also if cb is baked in, is it still a talent? Will sectech always 100% crit?
Imo on rogue every button has purpose rn i'd hate for them to remove more buttons
ember basin
i see some use cell. Im also about to swap out elvui i think, but the cell setti...
Why does everyone use ElvUi? It gives you input delay
ember basin
Like literally it's horrendous, it gives you a delay in your rotation, causing you to have a 2 second or longer delay
For me, it's 2 seconds and that's way too damn long for a fire mage. Actually ruins our dps
Don't use that unless you're playing a hunter honestly, remove it. That addon is just bloat
tough swallow
Why does everyone use ElvUi? It gives you input delay
because its the best option if you are lazy
spare ember
Like literally it's horrendous, it gives you a delay in your rotation, causing y...
This is mega cap tho, elvui doesnβt give you a 2 second delay 
ember basin
This is mega cap tho, elvui doesnβt give you a 2 second delay <:OMEGAKEKW:829051...
Yes it does
I hate to break it to you, but yes it does. You don't see it but you'll see it in your logs how late you are in your rotation in comparison to the input when you don't have it
You're 100% wrong
jovial pewter
I hate to break it to you, but yes it does. You don't see it but you'll see it i...
No you are wrong
ember basin
No you are wrong
No you are wrong
jovial pewter
I use elvui
ember basin
Ok and?
jovial pewter
And I literally hit every gcd
spare ember
You're 100% wrong
Im not, you areβ¦ better tell all those people in race to world first to stop using elvui then. They donβt want a 2 second penalty
ember basin
And I literally hit every gcd
Ok, that doesn't mean you're faster than someone who doesn't use it. I promise you, it gives you a delay. Multiple people complain about it
ember basin
Me and solo went through my logs and my gcd has at most .005-.015 ms out
So there is a delay, my point exactly
woeful geyser
Me and solo went through my logs and my gcd has at most .005-.015 ms out
old
jovial pewter
So there is a delay, my point exactly
Okay give me your log
And I bet you lose more GCDs than me
ember basin
Im not, you are⦠better tell all those people in race to world first to stop usi...
They should, idk why they use it when it gives you a delay in your input
ember basin
Okay give me your log
Well this is gonna sound disappointing but I don't keep my logs, this was months ago that I tried that addon. I delete my logs as I go
But I've tested it with my mage friends, they can attest to it
I'm a fire mage, it shows
faint bough
I thought uni was doing a bit
ember basin
I thought uni was doing a bit
Oh no, never, I don't do that
woeful geyser
i mean, elvui is a resource sucking Pos
but if you get a 2sec delay, its maybe your PC dying lol
ember basin
i mean, elvui is a resource sucking Pos
but if you get a 2sec delay, its maybe ...
π it was during combust too, the delay in my pyro was atrocious
Without it? Just fine
jovial pewter
Yeah Iβm sorry but if it was a 2 sec delay no decent player would use it
ember basin
With it? Horrendous
jovial pewter
Then thatβs a pc issue
jovial pewter
Well it is if you have a 2 sec delay
ember basin
ElvUi is just terrible at allocating it's resources so it's causing input delay
The time you press the button for the game to register the input with ElvUi is delayed and that's a fact
jovial pewter
Did you not see the screenshot I posted
On my logs there are multiple instances where I hit the gcd on the gcd
ember basin
Yes and you're not gonna convince me otherwise when I've not only experienced this myself but there's threads of people who have had this same issue
spare ember
They should, idk why they use it when it gives you a delay in your input
It just doesnβt give you 2 second delayβ¦ sorry, Ofc any addons you use will impact your performance in some way and elvui with all its modules loaded isnβt light. Itβs just not a 2 second delay
ember basin
Yes because I believe my eyeballs and personal experience and people with the same issue than someone who just doesn't have the issue
jovial pewter
Yes because I believe my eyeballs and personal experience and people with the sa...
Right but thatβs very narrow minded
tough swallow
addons can have a high impact on your performance, but it depends on your system
ember basin
It just doesnβt give you 2 second delayβ¦ sorry, Ofc any addons you use will impa...
It was 2 seconds for me,
Regardless tho, there's a delay, that's a fact
tough swallow
2 sec delays are not caused by addons
unless you have rly bad hardware
even then 2 sec is too long
ember basin
I do not, my CPU is a 10700K
jovial pewter
I just showed you mine
ember basin
Ok and?
jovial pewter
There isnβt 2 secs delay
ember basin
What does that have to do with me having a 2 second delay? You don't have it? Amazing
Awesome
jovial pewter
So you donβt have one log of yours that you can show me?
ember basin
So you donβt have one log of yours that you can show me?
No, I delete them, I don't clutter them, I'm sorry
I would link it if I did
I can probably find the conversation in the mage discord
But I doubt that's helpful
iron belfry
go to downloadmoreram.com and you get rid of input delay
jovial pewter
go to downloadmoreram.com and you get rid of input delay
True yeah
ember basin
go to downloadmoreram.com and you get rid of input delay
someone who actually believes this would do this though
I have 32GB of Ram
iron belfry
i downloaded 200gb of ram
jovial pewter
But yeah uni I donβt know what to tell youβ¦ Iβm telling you my experience
ember basin
And I'm telling you mine, Whether it's 2 seconds for me or 15 Ms for you
Can we agree there's a delay?
jovial pewter
It can cause delays for some
ember basin
I don't use many, I think the biggest one I use is rarity
jovial pewter
But itβs not enough for me to cause a performance loss
jovial pewter
Yea that's bad for DPS
0.005 is not bad
ember basin
I advise against it because delays are bad for DPS
jovial pewter
People lose more time with bad spell queue windows
ember basin
People lose more time with bad spell queue windows
How do you have a bad SQW?
jovial pewter
I donβtβ¦
ember basin
I didn't say you did
jovial pewter
No you asked me if I did and I said I donβt
ember basin
I asked how do you have a bad SQW? As in like how does someone have a bad SQW
ember basin
I know rogue is a fast class so I won't deny maybe that's it
But how do people not queue their spells?
jovial pewter
Depends on the spec
ember basin
π like genuinely that seems like wow 101
iron belfry
fire mage u want 400 sqw. you will make mistakes. 400 sqw on outlaw for example feels like trash for some reason
jovial pewter
Outlaw is reactive so some donβt always know what the global should be
ember basin
fire mage u want 400 sqw. you will make mistakes. 400 sqw on outlaw for example ...
Don't edit your SQW, that's the rule of fire mage π€£
jovial pewter
fire mage u want 400 sqw. you will make mistakes. 400 sqw on outlaw for example ...
Thatβs because fire is more telegraphed
iron belfry
i have macro for sqw 400 when i login on firemage, and another one for other specs
ember basin
Btw Weasel, I know you're joking but I really hope nobody listens to you and downloads ram
ember basin
i have macro for sqw 400 when i login on firemage, and another one for other spe...
Bro please tell me you're joking
iron belfry
no. i use 400 on firemage, and 150ish on rogue
iron belfry
you do you i wont tell you how to play
jade panther
https://wago.io/s08yL_PCP
thank you π
ember basin
iron belfry
if SQW worked perfectly 400 would be ok for everyone, but for some reason some specs work better with less. it's feelcraft because i don't fully trust code
maybe if u got NASA pc and 1 MS it doesnt matter
ember basin
if SQW worked perfectly 400 would be ok for everyone, but for some reason some s...
Don't listen to this guy
Don't edit your SQW
tough swallow
sqw is good for you, everything above ~150-200 is fine
you can lower it if you play e.g. outlaw
because there is a chance to accidentally queue up the wrong spell else
for context AR lowers the gcd to 0.8 sec
sooo 0.4 sec queue time is 50% of that and means it is easy to do the mentioned above
outside of that tho... its best to just keep things as is
ember basin
sqw is good for you, everything above ~150-200 is fine
You are encouraging sinning and I do not appreciate this /J
iron belfry
Don't edit your SQW
i read what happened in this chat recently and you just looking for arguments so nobody will take u seriously, you can bait a few ppl here and there
ember basin
i read what happened in this chat recently and you just looking for arguments <:...
I'm not baiting
If anything, I think you are cuz there's no way you're encouraging people to download ram
iron belfry
are you zen by any chance?
ember basin
And for the future, I never bait, ask the mage discord
ember basin
are you zen by any chance?
Who?
iron belfry
just checking
ember basin
Who is zen???
tough swallow
also please keep the discussion reasonable.
- Addon's never have impact to make your game "unplayable" unless there are massive flaws.
- SQW even worse case has no insane impact on your dps, especially not on rogue which isn't a gcd capped class.
... Just don't talk in extremes, and allow others opinions.
jade panther
Hi, i'm the guy that just arrived and didnt read anything but "SQW" and wondering what it is.
ember basin
Hi, i'm the guy that just arrived and didnt read anything but "SQW" and wonderin...
Spell queue window
jade panther
the thing that allows me to press a key before the possible cast in order to make it cast as soon as the game allows it ?
tough swallow
Hi, i'm the guy that just arrived and didnt read anything but "SQW" and wonderin...
it is a variable you can set, which controls just how much you can quue up a spel in advanced.
Baiscally means how far in advanced you can press the key before your global cooldown ends.
jade panther
mhh ok. Feels like i would finally be interested in reading the debate
ember basin
It's not even a debate, don't do that, especially if you don't know what you're doing π
jade panther
I didnt even know it was possible to modify this timer
ember basin
Most people don't unless you talk about it
But yea you can do that in the game
And it's advised not to because most people do not know what editing it entails
jade panther
I could say that I am used to the basical timer that is set, but sometimes I feel like i would like to enlarge the size of my.. window
in order to pre-cast more
ember basin
I could say that I am used to the basical timer that is set, but sometimes I fee...
If you start fiddling with it, please remember the standard is 400 π€
jade panther
Ok, thank you for this information π
jade panther
it is a variable you can set, which controls just how much you can quue up a spe...
thank you too
ember basin
And id advise you to look into what you're doing and knowing how that can affect you with other classes
That aren't rogue
tough swallow
thats actually not correct
spell queue window is just not a topic you talk about, because it makes no sense most of the time
iron belfry
can i macro spellqueue window 150 with my cooldowns?
tough swallow
you just need to set it once
iron belfry
xD
tough swallow
basically, sqw is more relevant on casters, but also only when they get a very high amount of haste
the only time it was openly discussed was end of bfa
and this might come as a surprise, the reason was simple
ember basin
basically, sqw is more relevant on casters, but also only when they get a very h...
Exactly why it's very relevant for fire mage π€£ and why we are advised to never touch it
tough swallow
corruption, it was a end of xpac system which gave you insanely high amounts of haste
one pice of additional information
bfa did not have stat dr
so stats would not get less effect with more % in it
ember basin
corruption, it was a end of xpac system which gave you insanely high amounts of ...
Was that the visions thing before they rebranded to current visions? π€
tough swallow
visions was part of the aquisition
blizz added stat dr as a way to not allow these extreme stat benefits from gear or systems like corruption
so basically, they implemented it as a measurement to never have such extremes again
what happened when you throw infinite haste at classes is that their global cooldown went below 1 sec
and with that we get in the same problem space i mentioned for outlaw
your spell queue window can get as long as 50% of your gcd
the main issue is, you have no visual feedback for sqw
ember basin
the main issue is, you have no visual feedback for sqw
Isn't there a WA or something that can do that? π€
mellow pilot
its the red portion of the bar
tough swallow
so you can move and start casting again to minimize cast downtime
mellow pilot
in quartz
tough swallow
but thats not spell queue window exactly ^^
mellow pilot
basically a "press another ability here and it will queu"
tough swallow
^
ember basin
Yes
jade panther
Then I'm wondering stgh else now, because you call it "spell QUEUE window" so, can you pre-cast several spells in a row before the end of the actual gcd ? Or the word "queue" is actually used only to talk about only one possible pre-cast ?
tough swallow
think other addons have a similar function
mellow pilot
example
mellow pilot
tough swallow
you can queue up a spell for the entire duration of the queue window
and if you replace it before the gcd is done
you cast the latets queued up
jade panther
ok
tough swallow
there is some lag/delay involved due to just physicallity of hardware like input lag, frame repsonse times and server tick rates
but basically, you can't rly do much wrong
the main problem rly is
"spamming" one key too long
and accidentally queueing it up
and then end with one extra cast of something you don't want
jade panther
I see. And finally, no possible way in this game to pre cast a serie of spells ?
spare ember
It shouldnβt make any difference to the feel of pressing your buttons (cause Aparently you can changed the queued cast at anytime within the window)β¦ but anecdotal y changing it from 400 to 150 really helped me
tough swallow
I see. And finally, no possible way in this game to pre cast a serie of spells ?
no
that would be automation
the closest thing to that is a cast sequence macro
which basically is a macro you spam that goes through a list of spells in order
ember basin
Then I'm wondering stgh else now, because you call it "spell QUEUE window" so, c...
If you ever play a caster, the best way I can visually describe it is chain casting
I can press fireball over and over and over again and it will continue to cast that spell as many times as I press it. Making that sequence a Queue
So if I press it 5 times as it's going with each one, I'll cast it 5 times unless I interrupt it with a jump or moving
spare ember
If you ever play a caster, the best way I can visually describe it is chain cast...
No
Again this isnβt true
spare ember
You canβt queue up 5 spells
spare ember
I give up
ember basin
I can literally queue up the next fireball as I'm casting one
jade panther
It shouldnβt make any difference to the feel of pressing your buttons (cause Apa...
and when you change from 400 to 150, it means that all keys you press at more than 150ms before the end of the actual gcd are not taken into account ?
spare ember
You said 5 spells????
ember basin
You said 5 spells????
No, I said press it 5 times, you're misunderstanding me and claiming I'm lying
tough swallow
1 ms = 1/1000 s
ember basin
Do I need to give you a visual???
mellow pilot
yes
ember basin
Jesus Christ
woeful geyser
@ember basin sorry mate, but rn you are doing a bigtime "you all are wrong except me" even thought everyone tries to explains why ut isnt that way and the problem is something different
spare ember
Jesus Christ
Well you said βIβll cast it 5 times unless I interrupt itβ
woeful geyser
which is weird
ember basin
Well you said βIβll cast it 5 times unless I interrupt itβ
Yes, if I jump mid cast, I interrupt my spell
And therefore cancel the window
woeful geyser
like, again
yes, addons can make the game react slightly slower, but not "2sec delay" or "i get insane spell queues"
thats a bigtime hardware problem
jade panther
1 ms = 1/1000 s
I got it but i mean, if i understand well, changing for example the 400ms to 150ms means that he reduces the "timesize" of the window to pre-cast, right ? Instead of being able to precast 400ms before the end of the gcd, he can only pre-cast at 150ms or less before the end of the actual gcd. Am i right ?
meager totem
<@402958234371227648> sorry mate, but rn you are doing a bigtime "you all are wr...
dont worry it was the same kind of posts in another discord, just oblivious to the fact they could even be wrong
ember basin
<@402958234371227648> sorry mate, but rn you are doing a bigtime "you all are wr...
I think people just aren't understanding what I'm saying and interpreting my words entirely different
tough swallow
I got it but i mean, if i understand well, changing for example the 400ms to 150...
exactly
but you do so intentionally to avoid overlapping casts
spare ember
I think people just aren't understanding what I'm saying and interpreting my wor...
If thatβs the case, then fair enough. I thought you were saying you could queue up 5 spells
tough swallow
which is only needed in some cases, so overall rarely interesting for players
jade panther
Well so, i guess as a sub rogue i can't understand the interest of doing that since i would personnaly do the opposite : for example going from 400 to 700
tough swallow
outside of probably outlaw, which has a lower gcd of 0.8 sec
ember basin
like, again
yes, addons can make the game react slightly slower, but not "2sec ...
Ok, but we agree there's a delay right? Regardless of what it is? That's my entire point. Yet people were hyperfocused on the time like that even matters
tough swallow
during ar
ember basin
Same here, you're hyperfocused on the number 5 when I didn't say 5 spells, I talked about chain casting which is when you press a spell 5 times AS YOU'RE DOING IT, meaning per cast, you press it again
woeful geyser
Ok, but we agree there's a delay right? Regardless of what it is? That's my enti...
if there is a delay you can actually notice, your PC is the problem, not the addon
ember basin
if there is a delay you can actually notice, your PC is the problem, not the add...
Ok.
spare ember
Uni, you argue in bad faithβ¦ you say 2 second delay, sqw letβs you queue up 5 spellsβ¦ and when people say βnoβ you pretend it doesnβt matter what you said
ember basin
Uni, you argue in bad faithβ¦ you say 2 second delay, sqw letβs you queue up 5 sp...
No, there's two different topics they're referring to
mellow pilot
ember basin
https://tenor.com/view/rupanti-apu-rupanti-apu-gif-popcorn-eating-popcorn-watchi...
I know!
somber idol
Stop being mad on the holy day
ember basin
Stop being mad on the holy day
Sounds like a paladin 
Kinda sus ngl
Ya know what, thinking about it, better example is when you're casting pyroblast and you QUEUE up Phoenix flames
It briefly highlights Phoenix on your hot bar if you have it on your screen
That's a way better example of SQW
warm pagoda
Just do what I do and queue up the entire fight during pulltimer and then go afk for 6 minutes
ember basin
Just do what I do and queue up the entire fight during pulltimer and then go afk...
I know you're joking but can you imagine?
The bots would be the best players
glad harness
Reading this back, I wish I didnt.
warm pagoda
You're now caught up on the lore.
severe cloak
anyone knows if when s3 starts, on week 0, m0 will have daily reset or weekly reset?
mellow pilot
always weekly
afaik
it was only daily during vet gear drops S1
and then reverted back to champion gear - weekly lockout
severe cloak
ahhh ok ok I remember readiing somethinhg about daily save some time ago
severe cloak
thanks! i didnt know they reverted that
jolly stag
Guys, what is the strongest spec in dmg for raid in war within S3?
lapis thorn
Oh damn i started a multi hour arguement. Pretty sure elvuis issue comes from bad setup, tracking too much by default. Rtwf players that use it put the time in to make it not shit
mellow pilot
Guys, what is the strongest spec in dmg for raid in war within S3?
Ask again in a few weeks
mellow pilot
Oh damn i started a multi hour arguement. Pretty sure elvuis issue comes from ba...
It was almost fun to watch xD
lapis thorn
But iβve also had a very noticeable input delay, and it was time to redo my ui anyways. So figured I would just swap and see what happens
gusty prism
Do you guys know if m0 still will have items dropping weekly, or did they changed something ?
gusty prism
ok, hc still has daily lockout ?
mellow pilot
probably not? not certain, also wont matter
its just 1 week
season starts 1 week later doesnt it
gusty prism
yeah I need to get my char from 640 do 675 in that week so im just wondering
mellow pilot
you can craft gear with weathered crests
they'll probably go up to 670 or something
wicked night
what is this (with all the arrows obv) and by what is this as in.. how do i move it? its not elvui, its not a weakaura, I cant find any way to move it and its annoying
noble kestrel
Raid / personal markers from Method Raid Tools
Or an addon with similar functionality
neon glen
what is this (with all the arrows obv) and by what is this as in.. how do i move...
/fstack and find to which addon it belongs
wicked night
`/fstack` and find to which addon it belongs
ty its cell
ember basin
I just learned I'll have to make my own WA's for my rogue, can't trust these downloads 
inland gale
I wouldnβt trust any rogues either
steep dock
Dont trust anyone,not even yourself
ember basin
Dont trust anyone,not even yourself
So true
main peak
rogue most trustworthy class
wouldu trust someone u know will backstab u?
or someone u arent sure will backstab u
ember basin
wouldu trust someone u _know_ will backstab u?
or someone u arent sure will back...
I feel like this is a metaphor for something something Judas
wintry wind
For S3, Which rogue spec is looking best at ST right now?
mellow pilot
ask again in a few weeks
ember basin
ask again in a few weeks
Its been a few weeks /J
wintry wind
ask again in a few weeks
Yawn.
trail stream
!up
ionic forumBOT
mellow pilot
Why does everyone seem to think weβll have two rogues in rwf?
first time hearing about it
minor ember
Watching Maxβs revision of the tier list rn and people are voting on two rogues in rwf.
woeful geyser
tier lists
plush dune
well if twitch chat says it
woeful geyser
ember basin
Those people are delusional
Not specific to this but its so funny how y'all love your class and hate it at the same time
novel cipher
It's called passion and it's fancy β¨
woeful geyser
Not specific to this but its so funny how y'all love your class and hate it at t...
tbf, its more like
its very unlikely that rogue is so strong that you start stacking it on purpose, espacially when it doesnt look outstanding strong lol
stacking melee dps is allready tricky
ember basin
You guys ever stealth for a quest just for the immersion? Cuz I've been doing that
rare solar
No wonder we dont get reworks if no one plays the class
woeful geyser
- its twitch chat, the only place you find more clueless people then twitch chat is wowhead comments and #outlaw
ember basin
Guys u gotta oversell
This is why mages get reworks :3 we sell our class well
rare solar
You guys ever stealth for a quest just for the immersion? Cuz I've been doing th...
I refuse to do anything in the game that i could skip by stealthing
ember basin
I personally have sold people on the mage
novel cipher
You guys ever stealth for a quest just for the immersion? Cuz I've been doing th...
Um yeah? That's how you skip all the mobs
ember basin
Um yeah? That's how you skip all the mobs
Lmao I meant for like any quest, even killing mobs
I like sapping them and ambush
novel cipher
That's class fantasy for ya
novel cipher
They didn't see ya so it's okay
ember basin
Btw
Ive been using the actual dreadblades during my questing instead of ya know, using better swords
and Its just hilarious how even if the weapon is terrible, I still kill remarkably well
Like these things do 2-4 damage and Im doing great lmao
rare solar
Like these things do 2-4 damage and Im doing great lmao
If youre in legion u can put the artifacts in to raise its ilvl
Like fel iron artifact or whatever theyre called from the quests
ember basin
If youre in legion u can put the artifacts in to raise its ilvl
You can? I thought they locked that system
mellow pilot
hearty fog
Not specific to this but its so funny how y'all love your class and hate it at t...
we have stockholm syndrome
stray flint
Anyone know what spec it looks like we will be playing in raid? Or is it going to change fight to fight?
ember basin
Good ol' days
fiery coyote
Anyone know what spec it looks like we will be playing in raid? Or is it going t...
it's always been fight to fight no?
unreal gulch
it's always been fight to fight no?
Absolutely not
There have been quite some Tiers where you would optimally just play the same spec throughout
glad harness
vital geode
Anyone know what spec it looks like we will be playing in raid? Or is it going t...
Yes mostly sub/sin. But that depends on the fight. 4/8 bosses have dmg amps. Fatebound assa is very strong and potentially next to wl the best st spec.
jade panther
Hello. I'm not sure to understand well the schedule, when can we start M+ in S3 ?
plush dune
12th/13th
left crow
plush dune
not this coming reset but the next one
jade panther
ty guys π
vast fiber
what spec is the best based off of ptr changes in m+? for rogue ofc
vast fiber
im looking to push keys next season
so im trying to find out what looks the most promising after the buffs
bright wraith
tuning will happen, it could change. All 3 will be good enough until high keys at least
i will start with assa and then we will see
rare solar
so im trying to find out what looks the most promising after the buffs
Outlaw
night pier
Whichever you like the most
Also in that case none of them for me haha
glad harness
Dont look at me, I aint maintaining rogue this season either
bright wraith
I asked a week ago regarding the rogue cm set helmet being nearly black in comparison to the original color for me. Other rogues seem not to have that "problem" ingame. Could it be just using a very low graphic-setting?
zealous halo
so im trying to find out what looks the most promising after the buffs
assa rn is looking to be a contender for litteral best spec in the game in m+ so
take that as you will
glad harness
But we also know blizzard 
zealous halo
But we also know blizzard <:KEKW:1125459355463061654>
we do actually
assa litteraly get buffed
while in this state more often than not
because it stays shit in raid
it happened in s1 and s2
dont see why it wouldnt happen again
iron belfry
is the new blizz-wa-replacement thing coming next season or should i dpwnload weakauras?
iron belfry
visual sigil
Not even sure they'll forbid wa
iron belfry
im sure they won't
visual sigil
assa rn is looking to be a contender for litteral best spec in the game in m+ so
The best spec? No way
zealous halo
bro doesn't know
warm lion
Kind of a weird question, but does anyone know specifically how setting your loot spec effects weapons? Like if my loot spec is set to sin/prio, will I never get a sword from various things such as end of M+? I always enjoy playing outlaw for a few days here and there but never enough to get/maintain/keep a good gearset for it so I'm debating just playing two rogues and keeping one perma-specced outlaw and keeping my other for sub/sin
rocky fiber
Outlaw will never get daggers, Assassination/Sub will only get daggers
warm lion
Okay yeah that's kind of what I was thinking thanks
I'll make a mechagnome outlaw rogue and be a true unicorn
rocky fiber
It's a pain but if you know the dungeon loot you can switch loot specs if there's an outlaw MH you want
warm lion
It's a pain but if you know the dungeon loot you can switch loot specs if there'...
This is also a good point and also easier than maintaining two characters
rocky fiber
Also useful to know if there's a dungeon with daggers but a trinket you want, you can set your loot spec to outlaw to theoretically dodge looting daggers and get an increased chance at the trinket
warm lion
that's actually galaxy brain
mellow pilot
Although it is Galaxy brain, in day to day gameplay wet keep forgetting about it
pallid rain
Hey, does corruptions stay with us for next season? never bothered to do them since I've heard somewhere that they wont work, but then s3 sims have the echoing void enchants on
pallid rain
i see, thanks
storm crypt
are s3 m0 on weekly reset?
rare solar
Bc they did it differently once
visual sigil
<:CAUGHT:1280607213420806215> bro doesn't know
I want you to explain you point of view my love
zealous halo
I want you to explain you point of view my love
After the recent buffs assa litteraly does the highest overall of any spec in the game (maybe excluding udk or frost?) while doing arcane funnel in cd out of cds
Doing that much overall damage while having one of the best damage profile in the game (free cleave + funnel)
zealous halo
Ye I mean true
visual sigil
After the recent buffs assa litteraly does the highest overall of any spec in th...
They buffed that much? Didn't follow ptr
zealous halo
Not that much directly
void creek
can someone throw me a tldr? sub or ass for raid this coming season?
zealous halo
But they buffed assa (and outlaw) every week for the past month basically so
wild plaza
No bl and no buff? bah, take mage
ember basin
Everyone: "Rogue this Rogue that"
Rogues:
fleet notch
Can anyone take a look at this? I keep getting taken out of stealth for no reason. I have tried disabling all addons, changing specs, unequipping my trinkets, changing hero talents, swapping toons, restarting the game, and still this keeps happening. It can be anywhere from as soon as I go into stealth to 1-5 seconds after, but I come out of stealth automatically for no reason.
warm pagoda
Can anyone take a look at this? I keep getting taken out of stealth for no reaso...
What dagger do you have equipped?
fleet notch
warm pagoda
Its your dagger
fleet notch
I just took it off and I stayed stealth for like 10 seconds before sending you this π I just got this stupid thing
warm pagoda
I mean also that.
warm pagoda
If it helps, you ain't the first to have that issue and you won't be the last
lime vapor
rare solar
'guys this dagger keeps taking me out of stealth'
looks inside
caster dagger
Every time
warm pagoda
Its why without even checking the video I'm just like... 'show dagger'
fleet notch
lmaaooooo g2g thanks guys
warm pagoda
Any time!
fleet notch
I blacked out cause my LFR queue popped and just clicked the first dagger I saw π I'll see myself out
warm pagoda
Best of luck with your future rogue endeavours! (But yeah its happened before, its fiiiiiiine)
quasi oasis
I'm looking forward to the new season and a brand new slate of people discovering that everforged dagger is int
fringe umbra
I'm looking forward to the new season and a brand new slate of people discoverin...
The Ancient ritual persists
rare solar
They can make dual stat weapons why not make the crafted shit dual stat too
rotund patrol
I'm looking forward to the new season and a brand new slate of people discoverin...
pebkac
frigid monolith
guys what spec are you going to play for raid next ssn?
noble kestrel
Sub
faint bough
swap between outlaw and sub every pull
frigid monolith
assa sucks?
faint bough
well yeah but not numerically
frigid monolith
wdym not numerically? the gameplay?
steep dock
no
mellow pilot
isnt this a server where is allowed to ask?
It is, but im pretty sure you dont play at a level that the spec will matter
frigid monolith
how do you assume lol
frigid monolith
or maybe i was jsut asked to swap?XD
i really want to see what you achieved mate π
frigid monolith
and no need to be passive aggressive dude XD i ask the heck i want lol
mellow pilot
I'm not even being passive aggressive
im just helping you understand it doesnt matter what you pick
frigid monolith
you assuming i dont play at a relevant level which is beign aggressive
so scratch ya ass over someone's else if it's itchy
mellow pilot
Im just used to people that play at a high level to know this kind of stuff already
they never ask what they should pick
inland gale
I mean if you played at a wr it mattered what you played you'd just know already
frigid monolith
bro i didnt play shitty rogue for years and they asked me to swap so i came here and asked no need to be aggressive and assume stuff just answer the damn question if you want or stfu xD
inland gale
yikes
faint bough
bro i didnt play shitty rogue for years and they asked me to swap so i came here...
play whichever you have the most fun with!]
frigid monolith
alright i'll let you kid play your game π have fun guys
mellow pilot
holy moly
mellow pilot
bro i didnt play shitty rogue for years and they asked me to swap so i came here...
Is your guild raiding mythic?
Or are you part of a mythic raiding group?
faint bough
have fun guys
this isnt an airport you dont need to announce your departure
mellow pilot
by any chance are you born after 2005?
mellow pilot
Are you german?!
mellow pilot
Oh Hi (Mark) Igestalt
noble kestrel
it's so easily solved by just playing sub
noble kestrel
And it can shadowstrike so you don't have to walk to the boss. it's just efficent
gleaming linden
will keystones drop by x levels or do we all start at +2 again next season?
exotic hare
is any of the 3 specs a lot better for delves?
mellow pilot
in theory you can play outlaw/sub trickster and 1h tricks brann
woeful geyser
eh, rogue in general is not THAT fast for delves
mellow pilot
thats the most helpful thing you can do
woeful geyser
but ye, sub/outlaw for endless tricks works
but like
you can also just pick up the heal pots lol
winged jungle
Yeah tricks Brann and watch him panic as everything in the delve tries to kill him, itβs fun
woeful geyser
healer brann->pick a pot once in a while->congratz, you cant die now