subtlety

[daring raptor]

Anyone know how the voidcore upgrade token will work tomorrow?
Will we be able to upgrade more than one piece of gear or only 1 piece?

[radiant swift]

and even if not i can still vanis strike

[void ocean]

With, but ur dance ends up with like 11 seconds left on blades and u wanna fire the seconds dance 2 seconds later

[undone cliff]

Knowing Blizz, it’ll be some token you need to use it. I think it’s the reroll tokens

[void ocean]

So its up to u what u do in between

[daring raptor]

I'm not talking about the reroll token. I'm talking about the upgrade thing we will get tomorrow. Increasing item level to 298.
Just wondering if we will be able to do it on both weapons and trinkets first week or if it's only one item per week or something

[undone cliff]

Correct, I think it’s the same thing. You can either reroll or upgrade. I thought I read that before. Could very well be wrong though

[radiant swift]

exactly and for me atleast for most part it bridges kinda itself

[daring raptor]

If it's the same token we all have wasted so many tokens so i hope it's not that

[undone cliff]

I’ll see if I can find what I read before.

[radiant swift]

it should be two diffrent tokens

u also have two diffrent like things there with the quest

that u fill seperately

one for rerolls one for upgrades

(asuming) dont think it said specificaly either

[marble comet]

can i sap while shroud is up?

or do i lose it

[void ocean]

i dont think i ever tried it but it should work, given that sap doesnt break stealth

[lilac stag]

It works. Used to do it all the time in mechagon. If you want to test it run a delve

[void ocean]

i usually first sap/distract then shround everyone

[lilac stag]

there no reason to in current season. Everything is press W

[void ocean]

but not that anyone asked for shroud for like 2-3 seasons 😄

[real panther]

when the pin says something and you take it as a challenge..

[dusky yacht]

I'm at 727 rn, could prolly drop it down a li'l but I wanna see if it makes a li'l bit of a difference for comfort

[empty bobcat]

Im at 720 and sometimes I feel like its really close to get a 2nd sectec

so rather have a little more than 700 incase you are not playing 100% perfectly

[dusky yacht]

I was 687 before and permanently sweating

https://giphy.com/gifs/filmeditor-hot-nervous-l4FATJpd4LWgeruTK

[empty bobcat]

haha yeah

[swift tinsel]

gotta buffer your buffer

[dusky yacht]

https://giphy.com/gifs/EcrookedletterZ-lol-tech-naw-ABVK96HgZvWI9SBbXr

"noobs"

[graceful osprey]

Sub rogue enjoyers, may your vault bless you with BiS loot

[swift tinsel]

token week every week

unless I get myth vora bracers with socket

[serene tapir]

Well valut is boring now with tokens

[void ocean]

gaze me up pls tomorrow

[swift tinsel]

got exeedingly lucky and rolled myth gaze on our first kill

[dusky yacht]

I might get socket or more voidcores I'll see

[swift tinsel]

so I'm basically done with raid loot for what we clear

[void ocean]

i got myth gaze on my dk from the vault... now rogue's turn

[swift tinsel]

ring/cloak/boots/neck my hero slots I still gotta replace

[dusky yacht]

My only ones is one ring and hands, but I might obviously still want crown and l'ura drops etc I guess

[swift tinsel]

we aren't getting there on mythic so its pit neck for me

and I don't think we're setting foot in hc anymore and I cba to pug alleria/lura for neck chance

[dusky yacht]

Pugging HC is wild

[swift tinsel]

yeah have not had great experiences there

[dusky yacht]

Sub Rogue TOP DPS BABY

[empty bobcat]

I am rocking 2 slotted L'ura neck HC

[dusky yacht]

Oh HC

You sneaky li'l

[empty bobcat]

ye no chance on a mythic piece

it still sims better than m+ pieces

[trail rover]

struggling with that too you dont think pit neck is strictly better than alleria&lura on hc? (if youa re able to shift somethign else into mastery) its 30 extra secondaries

[dusky yacht]

Yeah ofc

[swift tinsel]

probably not better, but its a logistics thing

[fossil forge]

chat does he know

[swift tinsel]

would be pugging a full raid or just trying to find alleria/lura kills for a shot at it

and spending 2x cores there for a chance at that vs getting 3x myth pieces from m+

for the amount of effort for me its just easier to settle for myth pit neck, esp when its one of the last I think 3 items for me there

[trail rover]

yeah bonusrolling for that hc neck just feels super bad

[swift tinsel]

hc lura neck is 0.8% ahead of myth pit neck for me

[empty bobcat]

yep

after the nerf lura is an easy kill

if you got the dps

[swift tinsel]

but I lose like 50 haste so I'd need to replace something else as well as regem

[empty bobcat]

I got ring from lura too :3

[swift tinsel]

yeah its not hard but you're likely pugging or getting into a hc guild progressing it

[dusky yacht]

Teekoh you mean you aint ST DPSing on big m+ pulls bro?

Do you even stack crit

[fossil forge]

no i am indeed not pressing evis in 25mob pulls in pit

[dusky yacht]

Hall of Shame

[stiff stirrup]

How important is 800haste (no guidon) for
M+? I’m assuming it’s needed for raid

[dusky yacht]

[real panther]

pretty sure crit/mast is king here

[fossil forge]

fk crit

[real panther]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lucifer-69-tom-ellis-MxHkbVTsmkPTEebefb

[dusky yacht]

It's needed to fit two sectecs into blades

[dusky yacht]

Your crit actually pretty high compared to mine lmao

[timid rose]

Here's mine unbuffed

[crystal bone]

#mystats spec

[dusky yacht]

This is with flask no?

[swift tinsel]

"unbuffed"

[timid rose]

no flask

[dusky yacht]

Wtf

[real panther]

clean

[swift tinsel]

if you only have 550 crit its pretty easy to get 1k mastery

[timid rose]

yah, i only aotc raid, so mostly just dove in on mastery once i hit my haste req

[sullen hare]

robbing peter to pay paul, as the old kids say

[swift tinsel]

I'm still replacing my crit-heavy pieces I got during cloud week lol

[timid rose]

yea, thankfully(?) i had bad luck chasing haste gear... and i was too cheap to recraft 😄

[swift tinsel]

I should probs recraft to haste/mastery

if I get omission I can swap both to crit/mastery tho so I'm holding off til I use my rolls

[timid rose]

i'm really curious to see how the loss of S1 4pc impacts optimal stats

[pallid tree]

hi, just getting into rogue and wondering if Im doing something wrong. if I have 2 charges of shadow dance, am I supposed to use the second charge when the first shadow dance falls off? also, it feels like there are periods where the energy regen is a bit slower, do i just mostly rely on autoattacks at that point and wait for energy regen?

[swift tinsel]

we'll just go back to back-to-back dancing instead of holding for last 8 sec of blades, plus they're gonna give +1 charges of sectech tier set trust

so the haste stuff will feel offset to a degree

but the double sectech in blades dream probs dead outside lust, unless we stack even more haste

[timid rose]

it feels lke you'd need a lot of haste to get there, which doesn't seem worth it

[swift tinsel]

unless they just bandaid us with another haste on-use

[lilac stag]

Why is it I wake up and the first thing I see is more secondary stat screenshots.

[swift tinsel]

its what we are now

its what we've always been

[timid rose]

i wanted to joiin the party ><

[lilac stag]

mouth breathers?

[marble sail]

raidbots is hard to google

[timid rose]

sorry, i have a deviated septum

[swift tinsel]

raidbots doesn't handle haste breakpoints neatly

just gotta look at your gear and accept certain vibes

[lilac stag]

Addition to 700/800 is very difficult with state of American education I suppose.

[swift tinsel]

I actually might set up a subset sum calculator in excel/sheets lol

[lilac stag]

I already did one. Too many people asking for help on sims

[empty bobcat]

almost same as mine 573/721/1002

[marble sail]

[hazy breach]

Holding for last 8 seconds is back to back without tier

[swift tinsel]

lol true

[hazy breach]

But yes we will see what happens when we don't have this tier bonus

[swift tinsel]

blades will be an interesting experience next season

[hazy breach]

I suspect they will either adjust sectech cdr somehow or make a tier set that affects sectech sonehow

[graceful rock]

What haste do I use for double on use flag/puzzy b?

[marble sail]

delete ur class

[timid rose]

self hate for double on use

[swift tinsel]

I'm expecting an additional use, either by adding a charge or dance enabling a use like Shot either by tier set or Imp Sectech adjustment

[coral bear]

!sheet

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[graceful rock]

You see the cooldown manager setting for sech tech?

[swift tinsel]

no I never touch that thing lol

[graceful rock]

Oh there’s a charges option on sec tech

[swift tinsel]

hm, maybe it was on the docket for alpha/beta but didn't make it in so they're saving for 12.1

[graceful rock]

Could be

[swift tinsel]

cdm a bit of a Wild West with what it allowed or doesnt

[timid rose]

uniformity is not their strong suit

[graceful rock]

Yeah it could just be copy paste left over from stuff

I think they should buff lash macabre by like 1000%

[worldly portal]

what is the cooldown of shadow dance with the recommended haste

[graceful rock]

Cooldown is always 20s

Duration is what’s hasted and I think it’s like 7.4s?

[worldly portal]

oh right

[worldly portal]

thank you ❤️

[graceful osprey]

I wonder how far we can extend the duration by the end of the expansion. Haste only build

[shadow lance]

Can't wait for a 20 sec dance duration

[hazy breach]

You can have that right now if you want

Tfd+guidon+secondary pot

[graceful rock]

If using secondary pot you use it before guidon?

[timid rose]

i don't think my tank ever lets me get TFD in 🙁

[shadow lance]

Yes, but we want native 20 sec dance

Only dancing

[hazy breach]

Yes

[graceful osprey]

20 second dance and no cooldown secret tech

[hazy breach]

That shit ain't happening

[shadow lance]

Lemme dream

[swift tinsel]

suddenly we're the flattest-line spec in the game lol

[timid rose]

monkeys paw, always in dance, but -20% damage while in dance

[astral axle]

@plush roost bro youre famous in sha's latest video

https://youtu.be/AalTqkcD6zE?si=ksaY0e-w3sKXjF2L

[swift tinsel]

as outlaw

[shadow lance]

sight

[astral axle]

[left ledge]

not yet you mean

[hazy breach]

Its never happening

[left ledge]

never say never

we will return to SL kyrian sub dance uptime at some point

[hazy breach]

Even that wasnt really 100%

[left ledge]

yeah true

it was like 60-70%

we're at like 40-50% now or something

SOON

haste DR doesnt even work on the dance talent right

because it just goes off the flat number

[graceful osprey]

You know, tbh, I kinda miss TWW gameplay lol. The burst was nice

[left ledge]

oh yeah ofc

[shadow lance]

ofc

[left ledge]

losing all our buttons was awful lmao

[shadow lance]

I would kill people to be s3 again

[left ledge]

i get removing rupture maaaaaybe even sod

but removing flag was

[hazy breach]

I dont think losing the buttons had a noticeable impact

The cdr removal is 90% of it

[left ledge]

eh

i do think i like no cdr

cdr was quite annoying

[hazy breach]

Well its obviously noticeable, but not nearly as impactful as the cdr change

[left ledge]

yeah for sure

i dont think the gameplay is THAT different

but its definitely a lot more boring

[graceful rock]

CDR made you think about the time inbetween your CDs more

Like can I send or hold stuff

[left ledge]

i did really very much enjoy the ramping nature of flag

even though s3 TWW made it so that flag insta stacked basically

i did enjoy the mechanic and i remember purposefully starting cds in a way to line up the most important damage events either for pad or boss dam with the tail end of flag

but o well

now we have some buggy mess slop spec

[graceful osprey]

Burst during soulbinder when adds pop up was nutty

[left ledge]

you know its bad when deathstalker is the more enticing gameplay loop

i just dont even know what trickster is for anymore

m+ i guess

[hallow mortar]

living in past

[left ledge]

"cleave" bosses

your cleave is still turbo dogshit

might as well just not cleave

but it likes sectec somewhat i guess

[graceful osprey]

I feel like the hero specs should’ve have gotten more thought to it tbh

[left ledge]

just feels like an awkward mess, like the spec doesnt know what it wants to do

i feel like they shouldnt have taken nimble out back and murdered it

maybe thats just me though

cleaving basically only on coup is fkin insane

and its 50%

[hallow mortar]

nimble feel little bit too weak

[left ledge]

well ofc it is, it got giga nerfed

[hallow mortar]

so just BP for aoe or evis for single

life is simple

[swift tinsel]

I've been enjoying arms, have a few buttons that do things and a fun proc or two to react to

[graceful rock]

I really think if dance macabre was worth playing around the spec would be much more fun

Esp if there was a combo system to it where you’d want to buttons in a certain order with it

[swift tinsel]

idk, dansemaxxing isn't my favorite idea

[warm marlin]

when i last looked you could mix in storm on 2/strike on 3/evis on 2 with it being neutral or like 0.2% gain btw

and i played it this way on paladins

and it wasnt really fun

[azure thicket]

i don't regret not spec maxing but wow

sub/outlaw really benefit from full myth gear type stuff

[haughty mural]

[azure thicket]

liiike what if sub wasn't the prog spec we know and love

and it got the outlaw treatment where it needs gear to do the thing

[chilly dagger]

I really enjoy my practice with outlaw, but damn... im too old for it. When focusing on the prio rota, I catch myself not paying attention to kicks and stuff on the ground xD
Really hard for me to keep up haha

[azure thicket]

sin's pretty good until everyone pops vantus and you don't get a third deathmark in tbh

[chilly dagger]

even though it sims higher than my sub, i end up with 30-50k less overall xD

[azure thicket]

if you're simming it with phys comp buffs you might be getting a weird read too

and then y'know doing keys with less than optimal etc

[left ledge]

sub and outlaw both benefit similarly from buffs

the only real big difference is mystic touch

and skyfury

outlaw benefits more from mystic touch, sub benefits more from skyfury

so if you're seeing that big of a difference its most likely a gameplay issue

outlaw is definitely a lot harder to do ok on than sub rogue right now, its got a lot of moving parts and your RTB can quite literally randomly vanish off your CDM

[crystal bone]

bonus feature

[azure thicket]

does the buff stay active or does it just delete itself

only thing that matters i guess

def rolled off a jackpot a few times

[left ledge]

it stays active

you can technically have a m33kaura track it

but it wont show you what you rolled

just if the buff is active

its not that big of a deal if you're used to outlaw and can just remember what you've rolled for an upcoming KiR

[shy scarab]

our bis stats is 700 +- haste - mastery now?

[left ledge]

but when i was getting back into outlaw for the first time this expac on lura

it was quite annoying

[left ledge]

700 haste, crit = mastery

mastery slightly better for aoe

or i guess quite a bit better

[shy scarab]

mmkay daddy cool

[haughty drum]

In regards to M+, when should you use BP over evis .

Searching old messages, I’m seeing 7-8 targets but that’s months ago

[left ledge]

if you have potent powder talented (which you should) 2+

[azure thicket]

i dunno vault is looking a lil dated

just like 3 slots a weeeeek

when you want people to hit m+ and also spensive consumes which i mean good for blizzard bad for players

https://tenor.com/view/akira-blue-archive-kiyosumi-akira-cute-cutecutecutecutecute-gif-2165316117835791871

[timid rose]

eh, i mean you could just do weekly 10s and not bother with consumes

[swift tinsel]

I'm in consume stockpile mode for s2 prep

[haughty drum]

Thank you. I typically follow guides which only guides here are mainly wowhead. So potent powder is talented

[hazy breach]

The guides say the same thing

[azure thicket]

i dunno..max 2/3 the vault slots thru raid/delve/m+ and get an extra row of items that you can take one from or something

[lilac stag]

Potions are 28g each. Flasks are 138g. What is expensive?

[winter parcel]

People would get bored if gearing was any easier

[azure thicket]

flasks are 300g ?_?

what fresh server are you on geez

[left ledge]

i thought flasks were region wide

but im on a52 with flasks also being like ~150

at least for r2

[azure thicket]

tichondrius shard akama and yeah we're getting 300g foldening for r1**

[left ledge]

or silver whatever they're called now

[haughty drum]

So what is potent powder isn’t talented. We just following guide still?

I sometimes just get the feeling for m+ that evis on priority would be more important than overall dps from aoe.

[vagrant fossil]

COnsumables are supposed to be region wide

[left ledge]

without potent its above 2 so 3+

[hazy breach]

I would say its very rare that its worth casting eviscerates in aoe now

[left ledge]

our priority damage or choosing evis over bp isnt really effective, pressing shadowstrike instead to build is prob more prio

but really you should forget prio on sub unless its a mob that REALLY needs to die

[azure thicket]

maybe not tier gear but spec rings/necks/bracers/belts

[hazy breach]

Eviscerate is a lot more prio, but it TANKS your overall, whereas strike vs storm doesnt

[left ledge]

yeah yeah thats what i meant ty

[azure thicket]

the cool stuff that lets you try enh and ele without feeling bad

[lilac stag]

Flasks are region wide. The basic bitch flask is cheap af

[azure thicket]

bro i spent like 10k on 20 flasks a few days ago

[haughty drum]

@hazy breach @left ledge thanks for the info

[left ledge]

if only evis cleaved

hahahaha

[lilac stag]

You’re not good at managing your money apparently

[left ledge]

big momma pulls were something else

[azure thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-14434896493114408896

[winter parcel]

I miss when Sub was THE funnel spec

[lilac stag]

The r1 consumables are all sold at under material cost and cheap. Not difficult to time during the week when to buy and when to sell.

[azure thicket]

im circling back to this with pictures

just so you know

[lilac stag]

idgaf if you don’t know how to buy consumable.

Get better.

go do a WQ for 1000g

[azure thicket]

you clearly have a nocturnal lotus helper

[lilac stag]

nope

[azure thicket]

go ask them for headpats or something

[lilac stag]

I just buy my shit from the AH

pay for consumables via enchanting

[azure thicket]

cooking classes twice a week or raid

mmmmmm

[lilac stag]

both

[azure thicket]

im making schnitzel this week too

[azure thicket]

all

[keen steppe]

schnitzel op

[azure thicket]

and the lil dumplings that go with :b

[haughty mural]

Yummie

[azure thicket]

i made uh..thai chicken soup last week tom kha gai

and the week before that some italian pork dish called pampanella

[west bluff]

Yo guys, how do you handle gearing for both sub/assa AND outlaw at the beginning of seasons. I feel like you need too many different enchants and gears

the only effective way is having two separate characters right

[hazy breach]

You dont need that many different enchants and gears

[warm marlin]

dont upgrade jewelry past hero track and just spam keys to have all the jewelry and swap your rings/neck out on a per spec basis if they even have diff priorities

and then outlaw gets cucked once you have a mythic weapon

[azure thicket]

for weapon enchants you can use acuity of the rendori on all 3 specs for example

[crystal bone]

gearing for sub accidently gears for sin at least this tier

just swap guidon and box

[hazy breach]

Its also not a big deal at all if youre wearing items that do not have perfect stats, its a very minor loss

[azure thicket]

yeah but all those 6-10 key level runs dont actually help people improve at the 15-17 bracket

i've run so many nxp 17s with goobers trying 15 strats and dying

it just sets bad habits they spend mid season unlearning and stuff

[lilac stag]

But what if I want to upgrade my nxp rings to 289?

[desert whale]

When is seasson 2?

[warm marlin]

lucky this season it works for both assa and sub kinda

big gains

[hazy breach]

Nobody knows for sure, but probably augustish

maybe even september

[desert whale]

Well i have time to gear up than, cheers

[plush roost]

Yeah but did you see the demonic damage i was doing in the vexamus section

[astral axle]

[plush roost]

Sustained 480k till the very end 8)))

[azure thicket]

at this point i think i can make birria tacos and not explode the pressure cooker :b

not that it's hard but y'know

cook for 3 hours or pressure that joint for 50 minutes and serve and play wow

[small sleet]

ya idk guys sub rogue needs a 5% nerf to bring it in line with the non meta specs like unholy dk and dev dh......

[west bluff]

Yeah was thinking about the crafted weapon enchant but that might not be a huge difference, mostly are stats and trinkets

[fast dome]

mythic weapon or heroic alnseer 🤔

[hazy breach]

Pretty much only trinkets, and most of the time the passive trinket overlaps anyway

The difference having +300 haste and -300 crit compared to the "specs correct stats" is not significant in any way

[azure thicket]

@lilac stag bro

https://tenor.com/view/i-dunno-i-dunno-man-i-dont-know-i-dont-know-man-gif-24406025

[plush roost]

it is time...

[graceful rock]

Holy smokes

[azure thicket]

stop touching m,y gooold

[small sleet]

typical charrend abusing fotm specs

unbelievable

[chilly dagger]

just go Outlaw 😄

[dusky yacht]

Guys I keep topping dps meters am I doing something wrong

Should I get more versatility

[small sleet]

just abuse it til we get nerfed...

[native zodiac]

look at this bad boy

[hazy breach]

Why would he

[abstract vapor]

which ring ench for m+? wowhead says eagle eyes (crit) but maybe mast for m+?

[hazy breach]

Always eagle

[abstract vapor]

ty sir

[warm marlin]

wtf!

[hazy breach]

Its not crit

Its crit damage

[plush roost]

Im just sayin, my aa21 was not being timed as sub rogue

Maybe now that slayer arms is catching on

And i went from 650 mastery to 1050...

No flasks btw

[small sleet]

bro wdym sub rogue cranks in there

its just like

you dont pad on the hungry lashers

i actually had an aa where i did >100k dps to all 4 bosses in one run

but then you pull a big worm, and do no prio, and lose all the time gained gg

[fossil forge]

High key players r u deadass pressing evis over bp on prio mobs

i feel so worthless?

[hazy breach]

Rarely

[left ledge]

you just do AOE

[hazy breach]

But first boss academy is one of those cases because the mobs are literally useless

[left ledge]

you do good boss damage

sub got some of the best boss damage in keys

[fossil forge]

Nah i got flamed for pressing bp in pit 19

[left ledge]

yeah its ok idiots will always exist

[fossil forge]

susge

[small sleet]

you def press bp like the entirety of pit lmao

you even press it on one of the bosses

[fossil forge]

yea

[left ledge]

yeah it is what it is

they're still stuck in 2018

[hazy breach]

I had a druid tank not dispell himself on first boss AA and then pop off on our ret for not dispelling him

People are strange creatures, just move on

[small sleet]

if there's a graveblade at like 3m and everything else is <500k i'll start eviscerating rather than trying to black powder that last little bit, but its kinda irrelevant and it wouldnt matter which i actually do

[rocky sand]

Hey guys, is it only worth it to force Ancient Arts on Supercharged finishers, or would it also be worth to force it on non supercharged Sectec or Coup?

[small sleet]

ancient arts proc is very weak on sectech since it doesnt apply to the clones

[somber sun]

just start spamming " potent powder ready to use ! " in chat

[plush roost]

I had an aa run where i sustained 490k from crawth -> vex while prioing...

Outlaw still very gud

[rocky sand]

Is it not even worth to force it on supercharged sec tec then?

[small sleet]

ok but thats overpowered cheater outlaw spec

[small sleet]

you already generally dont, since you cast sectech as your first cast in shadow dance, and the premed bug will make it so the proc doesnt work

[rocky sand]

Yeah thats fair

[wooden wagon]

is edge of burning sun better than hungering victory or should I just take rerolls or socket from vault

[hazy breach]

Extremely small difference, socket almost surely a bigger upgrade

[wooden wagon]

thanks

[surreal yew]

Hellos guys, left the game on dragonflight. How is the rogue state for pvp already? the rotation for subtlety change to much?

[lilac stag]

@tribal blade

[elfin magnet]

My first vault with myth gear. Im so overwhelmed. I didnt think doing M+ would make reset day this exciting

[void ocean]

omg that just happened, i actually joined chima mythic pug grp and oneshotted him... on Tuesday (EU). Life is good

never tho thats possible

[steady osprey]

I got both Puzzle Box and Alnseer in my vault today, but Puzzle Box sims higher on dungeon slice and the same as Alnseer on ST. Should I still take Alnseer?

[upbeat cradle]

We're pretty good in pvp

We were much better a few weeks ago tho

[brisk onyx]

holyfuck

[oak sorrel]

if im reading this right, once the hammer is built there's no more waiting? we can farm the stuff to upgrade everything right away?

[hazy breach]

Seems like it ye

[brisk onyx]

The word "farm" is quite intriguing; I'd rather it gave me a full voidcore within a week

[oak sorrel]

i was about to ask about upgrading my vorasius dagger vs waiting and maybe catching a better statted one from m+ rolls

[steady osprey]

I'm thinking about taking Alnseer just because it's so much harder to get in general./

[hallow mortar]

there is like little to no difference which dagger you have as long its mythic

[oak sorrel]

mythic box vs mythic gaze is just gaze without thinking about it type angle

[hallow mortar]

cant wiat to do 200keys next week

[brisk onyx]

stats from weapon are negligible, especially considering the assumption that shards are farmable

[oak sorrel]

30 vers bricks my toon trust

[brisk onyx]

[patent lichen]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[oak sorrel]

bro i queued lfr to get this hammre shit rolling

first boss died in like 50 seconds LMAO

[vale pine]

thats extremely fast

[graceful rock]

How many did an LFR boss give?

[hushed roost]

bruh you need voidshards too

wtf

[dusky yacht]

whaaat

If that's true they really need to communicate this shit better ahead of time lmao

[hazy breach]

They did

They said if you do endgame content youll get it

Which is true

[hushed roost]

fuk lmao need to do it on 2 chars

[dusky yacht]

💀

[vale pine]

Blizz: "You will get your weapon upgrades in 4 weeks"
also: "You know we did say you get your upgrade, please farm more content, you only unlocked the ability to have a chance of 1/5th of a fragment to randomly drop"
Players: 🤌

[radiant swift]

so its confirmed random drops for any further upgrade?

[vale pine]

I don't know, i only read the wowhead article

[keen dome]

So the same as the PvP system whihc has been active for 4 weeks haha

[radiant swift]

as in random shard drops u need 5 of

[keen dome]

You just do pvp matches, you get slivers randomly, 5 make an upgrade item

[radiant swift]

yeah thats what RL said aswell

how were the drop rates in pvp?

[keen dome]

It does mean you can probbaly farm as many as you need.

[vale pine]

I think it's a bit too much

[keen dome]

Good enough my friend got it in like, a day of playing

Like multiple full items

[vale pine]

lets say engagement metric focused

[keen dome]

I agree though just let us have the items on a vendor

Although it's proabbly very whatever

[radiant swift]

isnt that crazy

[keen dome]

Just play game, get items

[oak sorrel]

i lied, it died in 72 seconds

[vale pine]

still very fast

[radiant swift]

thats like 4 full items 10ilvl higher within days

[keen dome]

Yeah lol

them having a 298 PvP weapon when a lot of people didn't was very funny

[dusky yacht]

Gotta go fast

[oak sorrel]

there's no time to be waiting for pull timers and ready checks and nonsense, we want our hammer

[dusky yacht]

The pull timer is now, the ready check is accept

[keen dome]

the pull timer starts the second you click join on the group

You've got 20 seconds to get to the raid

[radiant swift]

so u can just run trough normal/heroic aswell and it will most likely just drop?

[keen dome]

I assume so

I'm EU so I'm speculating but I imagine it's gonna be do any end-game content and they drop

[radiant swift]

i mean fine by me

[dusky yacht]

This is all so silly

[hazy breach]

Why is it silly

[radiant swift]

i wouldve guessed 1 per week

giving u all at once idk

[plush roost]

Id rather it be farmable and tedious than 1 per week and fucked up for 1hs

[radiant swift]

why fucked for 1hs?

surely 2h need 2 of those

[hazy breach]

No

[hallow mortar]

kek

[radiant swift]

thats actualy nice

[hallow mortar]

this guy

[keen dome]

yeah, infnitely farmable is better than not

[radiant swift]

wdym

wouldbt be first time for sure

[oak sorrel]

it's fucked for casters with 1hs more than anything

[vale pine]

we will see

[oak sorrel]

we don't care that much about offhand

[radiant swift]

like with sparks

[radiant swift]

that however

but i mean if its that frequent

[oak sorrel]

well all devourers are forced to use 1hs

[radiant swift]

its annoying but u can get it atleast

[oak sorrel]

other than that most ppl use staffs probably

[keen dome]

Upon completing this warband-wide journey, players may begin acquiring Ascendant Voidcores from Midnight Season 1 endgame content including raids, Mythic+ dungeons, Bountiful Delves, and Nightmare difficulty Prey Hunts.

Mystery solved

[radiant swift]

yeah complety forgott about the off hands

i do believe for msot casters staff and offhand+1habder is pretty close no?

[dusky yacht]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/complete-nilhammer-quest-on-main-character-first-381586

[random furnace]

Question, why on some high level parses, sometimes inside of SD they are not spending their 6 cp right away? I've seen them press SS, is there any advantage to this that im missing out? 🥹

[dusky yacht]

!aa

[tribal vortex]

!aa

[wicked jolt]

Apex talent optimization:

• Is shadow dance up? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have 5 or more stacks of shadow techniques? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have Darkest Night up OR A supercharged combo point? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Is ancient arts up? - :x: No
  If all of the above are true, use cast a Shadowstrike / Shuriken Storm (even if on full cp).

Apex talent optimization:

• Is shadow dance up? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have 5 or more stacks of shadow techniques? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have Darkest Night up OR A supercharged combo point? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Is ancient arts up? - :x: No
  If all of the above are true, use cast a Shadowstrike / Shuriken Storm (even if on full cp).

[dusky yacht]

lmao

[tribal vortex]

I won ?

[dusky yacht]

It was definitely me first

[tribal vortex]

:((

[dusky yacht]

[tribal vortex]

my discord begs to disagree

[random furnace]

so i've been doing it wrong x.x, thank you so much guys!

[dusky yacht]

Call it a draw?

[tribal vortex]

xd agreed

[dusky yacht]

[plush roost]

I think you need a doever

Hey guys how do i use my apex talent?!?!!

!aa

[wicked jolt]

Apex talent optimization:

• Is shadow dance up? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have 5 or more stacks of shadow techniques? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have Darkest Night up OR A supercharged combo point? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Is ancient arts up? - :x: No
  If all of the above are true, use cast a Shadowstrike / Shuriken Storm (even if on full cp).

[dusky yacht]

Just play the game bro

[oak sorrel]

yep i killed an lfr boss and immediately got a voidshard

[dusky yacht]

Wait you already got 2

[oak sorrel]

1 from quest

[dusky yacht]

Or do you get the first one free

Oh right

[oak sorrel]

please do not ask why shadow dance is on my bar 3 times

because i will not have an answer for you lmao

[regal sky]

why is your shadow dance on your bar 3 times

[hushed roost]

why is shadow dance not on my bar 3 times

[dusky yacht]

why bar dance 3 time

[tardy solar]

3 times dance bar

[tribal vortex]

preganant

[elfin magnet]

How do you guys find out what upgrades to use? I did myth first time last week, now I have 3 myth gear in vaults, and like 4 different myth items in my bag and raidbots cant sim it all. So I dont even know where to begin

[dusky yacht]

You should be able to sim all dat

[elfin magnet]

It was like 900k

While free is 300k

[tribal vortex]

you can remove choices that will not be good or you can sim half and half

[dusky yacht]

Sim vault first then upgrades or summin no?

[elfin magnet]

Atm Im in full hero

So I wasnt sure what order to start simming

[tribal vortex]

chest

[dusky yacht]

chest

[tribal vortex]

easy take 😛

[dusky yacht]

ez bar dance

[elfin magnet]

Chest > catalyze > sim the rest?

[dusky yacht]

yes

[oak sorrel]

im getting a shard from every boss ngl

[tribal vortex]

why don't you use all myth items ? 😛

[fiery cobalt]

For keys I have a hero guidon and a hero puzzle box which one should I be using? Bloodmallet sims show puzzle box much higher in aoe so I wasn’t sure

[dusky yacht]

ez dance bar

[elfin magnet]

I literally just did first M+ last week, guild caried me through 13s and I didnt know upgrades cause we did it in 1 day outside of the dagger I got which I saw was an upgrade

So thats the only thing I did change

[tribal vortex]

probably every myth item is an upgrade

[elfin magnet]

Mythic edge with leech proc

[tribal vortex]

if you have crests for upgrading

[elfin magnet]

I only have enough for 1 more piece to upgrade.

[oak sorrel]

shadow dance macabre

[elfin magnet]

Mythic base isnt direct upgrade esp since I dont have charges to catalyze all potential gear swaps

[dusky yacht]

[dusky yacht]

Once you have 4p it's very easy to get more catalysts

[molten hull]

Im assuming we use the nilhammer upgrade on our MH wep first over trinky or

[elfin magnet]

You say that but I went 2weeks without 1

[covert saddle]

yes

[elfin magnet]

maxed out using all my delve keys

[dusky yacht]

That's ... Insane

I had like 4 charges within a few days after 4p

[elfin magnet]

I wish

[tribal vortex]

lfr also drops such charges

[elfin magnet]

Even this week of M+ for the first time I got no charges

[tribal vortex]

raid is the best way for charges or pvp

[elfin magnet]

My 1 charge was the achievement

the freebie one

[tribal vortex]

I mean the best thing to do is farm some myth crest

[elfin magnet]

Well I mean again, this week was my first time doing mythics. My guild figured they could carry me through 13s. Since I only ever did delves/lfr before this

[swift tinsel]

Drop rates are extremely variable

[elfin magnet]

But now trying to figure out upgrades is scary.

M+ is fun as heck as a rogue tho gotta admit

They said 16s next.

[oak sorrel]

okay so shards aren't guaranteed

[hushed roost]

bruh non guaranteed

[hazy breach]

Oh no you have to play the game to upgrade your items

[swift tinsel]

More curious if you can get more than one per week

Or if/what the gating is

[swift tinsel]

I think I’ve gotten one charge from raid all season lol

[vale pine]

I would assume its not gated

just random

[elfin magnet]

Catalyst charges after 4pc?

No cap afaik

Just rng

[swift tinsel]

Idk I could 100% see them gating the upgrade cores

[elfin magnet]

Remember, you will always be the one who it never drops for

Your friend will get 12 from 8 delves

which isnt even possible

[vale pine]

Don't jinx it

[dire ravine]

My guild is on Belo- debating if its worth to send the shard on Hungering Victory, or wait to see if the dagger drops 🤔

[subtle aspen]

bro i got mythic puzzle box

[tribal vortex]

for sure it's worth to send especially if we can farm them

[subtle aspen]

not the guidance

🙁

[frank canopy]

what do yall stat amounts look like after the nerfs to cloud

did you go into finishers again?

[shrewd lantern]

I come in here to see if someone asked about stats within the past 5 minutes

[frank canopy]

and that is funny because?

[dire ravine]

[shrewd lantern]

its literally pinned

[worldly root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[keen dome]

yes but what about their speed

[worldly root]

indeed ahaha

[keen dome]

speed is the only stat that matters

[tropic aspen]

how did you get 4 more so fast?

[dire ravine]

RNG, i did all of LFR rq and got the shards

[tropic aspen]

grats!

[hazy breach]

Upon completing this warband-wide journey, players may begin acquiring Ascendant Voidcores from Midnight Season 1 endgame content including raids, Mythic+ dungeons, Bountiful Delves, and Nightmare difficulty Prey Hunts.

[dire ravine]

I havent gotten another to drop- yet. Unsure if FFA now, or time gated. Doesnt say its timegated, so id assume not.

[west tide]

its not

https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas/clip/ShortSpoopyMushroomKappa-DW2e-8hjzSYt8SkI

[dire ravine]

I am curious though, say if we recraft our OH dagger to outlaw stats- with the ascended voidcore on it- will it auto apply the inc in ilvl?

[subtle aspen]

that is the voidhsard 298 thing right?

[swift tinsel]

so its just 5 random shard drops per core?

hmm

[dusky yacht]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/complete-nilhammer-quest-on-main-character-first-381586

[hazy breach]

What does that have to do with what i posted

[dapper sail]

Hey guys newer to rogue, think I’ve got the rotation down but I was curious after use both dances with our blades, when do you guys start using dances again? I’ve been typically keeping 1 available while using one (for raiding) thank you!

[tribal vortex]

always with Secret Technique

[summer lynx]

Okay with the ilevel increase do we ditch the crafted offhand?

[hazy breach]

?

Why would we

[crystal bone]

u can use it on crafted items

weapons*

[dusky yacht]

I'm just adding information

Why are you in such a bad mood

[swift tinsel]

huh

[oak sorrel]

im being trolled lmao

i got a shard every boss until i got to 4 and haven't gotten one since

[swift tinsel]

the moving goalpost final shard lol

[timid rose]

you can add 10 ilvls to the crafted offhand and keep the embellishment no?

[lucid jackal]

Oooo

Nightmare preys drop it?

Thats probs the ebst then

if the droprates aren't super low for them

[warm marlin]

they are kinda slow after the nerf imo

I went from like 4mins to 9 or something

[swift tinsel]

are they capped at how many drop chests?

[lucid jackal]

A dungeon takes 15+ minutes LOL

[timid rose]

is there a weekly cap to the nilhammer items?

[lucid jackal]

So like

[swift tinsel]

I haven't done them in weeks

[lucid jackal]

!ban @kind vapor

[warm marlin]

lfr/normal surely

[swift tinsel]

if you can spam unlimited weekly nightmare preys thats probs the best since delves are limited

[warm marlin]

run right through it

maybe prey after

[swift tinsel]

could see that

lfr takes longer to queue for than complete lol

[warm marlin]

run the preys while queued

[swift tinsel]

coremaxxing

I dig it

curious if the first one requires 5 shards then it just starts dropping cores, or if its 5 shards for each. probs the former

[warm marlin]

5 shards each

presumably

[swift tinsel]

ah

[warm marlin]

actually think ots said it was indeed 5 shards each

[keen dome]

The game knows what you did (not pet enough cats in Silvermoon)

[warm marlin]

its the same as pvp

[swift tinsel]

suppose its another way to get engagement

[pulsar hemlock]

Do we have a preference on where we send the voidcore upgrades first?

[swift tinsel]

main hand

[olive canyon]

Do they drop off of bountiful delves? if so is that not the fastest way

[warm marlin]

mh -> gaze -> guidon -> oh iirc

[pulsar hemlock]

Or can I yolo myth weapon

[swift tinsel]

yolo myth wep

[hazy breach]

Mainhand is always the highest priority

[keen dome]

That's my plan. Seems like the most consistent way do it

[swift tinsel]

ye

[hazy breach]

Usually the on-use trinket would be the best second upgrade

But the haste increase from guidon is not very relevant this time around, so better to upgrade passive first

[pulsar hemlock]

Funny of you to assume I have a myth gaze to do afterwards.

Though tonight might be the night I finally bonus it, have both trinkets left in the pool

[swift tinsel]

manifest it

[pulsar hemlock]

[timid rose]

it's ok, you can do your hero gaze now, and then have shard stocked up for the myth one once you get it!

[vale pine]

Mainahnd > trinkes > offhand

easy as that

[pulsar hemlock]

Funny of you to assume I have heroic gaze

[dusky yacht]

[pulsar hemlock]

Champ track gaze reporting in

[keen dome]

!aa

[wicked jolt]

Apex talent optimization:

• Is shadow dance up? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have 5 or more stacks of shadow techniques? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have Darkest Night up OR A supercharged combo point? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Is ancient arts up? - :x: No
  If all of the above are true, use cast a Shadowstrike / Shuriken Storm (even if on full cp).

[vale pine]

trinkets are very close, so no real diffrence

mainhand is highest impact

[humble jolt]

What % is equal to 700 haste?

[swift tinsel]

~19% usually

depends

[prisma ibex]

well, i can`t use the voidcore upgrade on my crafted weapon, only worked on myth gaze...

bugged right?

[swift tinsel]

lol yep thats a bug

[humble jolt]

That would make sense actually

[timid rose]

smol indie company

[prisma ibex]

"we will do better"

[lilac stag]

blizzard with winning rng again. Some people getting 5 shards in lfr. Here I am with zero.

[somber sun]

will do better today

[swift tinsel]

yeah imma spam my weekly delves and then hit lfr/preys and pray

[glass kelp]

For those of you who play all 3 specs, am I overcomplicating it in my head or is it kinda tough maintaining sets for them all?

[hushed roost]

wait can you get all 15 now?

or whats the timegating on the next full one

[hazy breach]

Overcomplicating it

Overestimating the impact "correct" stats have

[hazy breach]

None

[molten hull]

Does the crafted dagger also go to 298 or a different ilvl

[craggy quail]

can use 298 upgrade on craft item?

[swift tinsel]

its like 295 or something like that iirc

298 is only for legit myth-track

[molten hull]

Ty

[bronze hatch]

Better for dagger or guidon to upgrade
Nvm it’s dagger isn’t it

[keen dome]

Always MH first.

[swift tinsel]

yes dagger

main hand

[bronze hatch]

I knew the answer as I was typing lol

[keen dome]

Almost all of our damage is weapon damage from the MH. So it is, and always will be unless something dramatically changes, the best investment

[swift tinsel]

guidon is the lower priority of the two trinket upgrades as well

[keen dome]

Never hurts to double check though 😄

[swift tinsel]

esp if you have a Gaze

[bronze hatch]

I have h gaze, so, but yea tru

[keen dome]

MH gaze guidon OH for meeee.

Gonna grind it out tomorrow probably

[swift tinsel]

should be able to sim as well if you're curious

[bronze hatch]

Bonus rolls my beloved

[keen dome]

hell yeah

[prisma ibex]

you should

but i can't

u can't too prolly

[keen dome]

Mythic Chim isn't too hard atm, so you could def pug it!

[prisma ibex]

buggedf.

[keen dome]

Crafted items go to 295, iirc. Or 294.

[bronze hatch]

I was hoping for it in vault might get it tonight

[keen dome]

I believe

[brazen stone]

as sub in keys ive been using recklessness pots and i macro'd it b4 guidon like i was told but what happens if lust is popped as im bouta burst? is my reckless pot not going towards haste instead of mastery

[swift tinsel]

we had 4 people get a myth gaze from roll last week, so we'll be living there for a while

[warm marlin]

should use the stat value of your character not % just like deepening

so it should not affect it

[prisma ibex]

yeah, but my point is, i was bugged

nothing happened when i tryed the weapon

[keen dome]

oh, rip 🙁

[prisma ibex]

tryed 4 times reloged and logged

etc..

[keen dome]

Just didn't apply to it?

[prisma ibex]

yeah

[keen dome]

What ilevel was the starting item?

[prisma ibex]

285

main crafted weapo

[lilac stag]

@swift tinsel this shit may actually break me

[keen dome]

Frustrating. Hopefully it's fixed soon

[prisma ibex]

so i tryed the gaze

[swift tinsel]

the random drops?

[prisma ibex]

and worked.

298

[keen dome]

Nod

[lilac stag]

Random drops. Can’t get in a fucking nxp 10

[swift tinsel]

lmfao yeah I've had to curate a playlist of stuff to watch while farming declines in lfg

[keen dome]

MY WORLD

I can recommend Broadchurch. It's a very good tv series

David Tennant and Oliva Colman are so good together

[swift tinsel]

I'm working through some more of the Critial Role Exandria serieseses

then its Dimension 20 from the beginning

[keen dome]

I actually got my keys done this week by just idling until friends would ask me to run keys with them haha

[swift tinsel]

I've also resorted to taking the timeways to dungeons since I've been getting the "invited to group then port then removed from group so your portals are on cd bc you didn't finish a dungeon"

which

[keen dome]

Yeah I learned to do that seasons ago

[swift tinsel]

why the fuck is it an 8 hour cd

[keen dome]

it's common in pugging, and it sucks

[swift tinsel]

or 10 or w/e

[keen dome]

8

And they share a cooldown

[swift tinsel]

yeah its ass

[lilac stag]

Add in paladins prog on a useless class

[timid rose]

Why ppl gotta be so toxic 🙁

[swift tinsel]

oh god oh fuck

[keen dome]

The very least I would do is tell the person

[lilac stag]

I’m done

[keen dome]

"Hey, sorry. A friend is joining instead. Sorry to waste your time!" is very easy to type as a white lie

[swift tinsel]

yeah that's a whole lot of shit for a tuesday

[swift tinsel]

yeah that would go a long way vs just the "You have been removed from group" as you're at the stone

[keen dome]

Yep

I always do it unless the person is a shitty person

'cos I would appreiciate it

[swift tinsel]

ye

I'm just picky from the get-go so I don't have to replace anyone lol

[keen dome]

The other version is you join, are the only person at the dungeon. 5 minutes pass. the group leader leaves.

[swift tinsel]

and ask in-guild if people want in before listing

[swift tinsel]

this is so tilting lmao

[keen dome]

I've seen it happen in a raid, too. it's weird.

People just don't consider the others they invite to be people

[gritty crow]

XD

[hushed roost]

i dont get it

[gritty crow]

bruh, i feel your pain, i am struggling myself to get in 19s

[hushed roost]

everyone just farms 15 of these shits

[gritty crow]

and if i do, somehow the group is sht XD

[flint parrot]

latest or nightly sim is currently up to date?

[subtle aspen]

🙁

[humble jolt]

is voidshard drop once per boss? as in normal/LFR/Heroic?

[ripe flame]

rng

[swift tinsel]

would imagine its unique per difficulty

[humble jolt]

for a change, right?!

[crystal bone]

if u can loot it, u can get it

[swift tinsel]

can kill chim on normal/heroic/etc and have a chance

[crystal bone]

so u cant re-run LFR

[swift tinsel]

or whatever boss

[humble jolt]

Thank you

[keen dome]

also preys, botunfiul delves, etc

[crystal bone]

and rituals

[keen dome]

neato

I wonder if they drop on tier 1 no buff things

I bet you could clear one of those in a minute

[crystal bone]

yes that pic is from tier 1

[ripe flame]

on the larias channel they said yes

[keen dome]

Nice

[vale pine]

oh, nice

[swift tinsel]

I have yet to even attempt any of those yet lol

I know nothing of these rituals

[crystal bone]

they are fast, faster than t1 bountiful delve

[keen dome]

they're pretty good, honestly. Fun challenge, not too obnoxious, rogue is good at them

[vale pine]

you can do it in a group too

its just casual content, but if you can use them to farm the voidcores, not bad

[lilac stag]

Groups don’t exist for rogues

smh my head

[mellow hedge]

rituals aren't working? did x5 no drops

[vale pine]

for ritals?

[swift tinsel]

rng'd

[mellow hedge]

no shot doing x5 stack

that's a lot of rng

[swift tinsel]

random be random

someone literally linked a ss above getting one from a ritual

[mellow hedge]

sure but they could have nerfed

[swift tinsel]

or just bad luck

equally possible for either

[north garnet]

You need 3 slots in vault from any category for the max 6 vault tokens right ?

[swift tinsel]

ye

[crystal bone]

a streamer has gotten 3 shards in 12 T1 ritual runs so far

it has not been nerfed

[north garnet]

so 2 from raid and 2 from m+ will be six ? O. O

[swift tinsel]

ye its probs just unluck

[swift tinsel]

yes

[north garnet]

thanks^^

[swift tinsel]

as long as you've unlocked 3x or more vault slots you'll be able to get 6x tokens

[north garnet]

i got this atm

but so tired i cant do any more m+ rn

been slacking this week

[mint perch]

Once you have upgraded your weapon to 298 you are locked in on that weapon right ? U can't upgrade another one via crest upgrade freely right ?

[hazy breach]

You need another core to upgrade another weapon yes

[mint perch]

Ok thx 😊

[simple sapphire]

stupid question, but does it matter which weapon slot enchants are on?

[hazy breach]

No

[simple sapphire]

danke

[glass kelp]

Got me remembering pyrium weapon chains now

[serene notch]

hmm getting into a vault key seems like a bridge to far rn

[hushed roost]

did you guys really get a 6th?

[sharp seal]

I’m afraid they will nerf EU upgrade somehow by tomorrow

[hushed roost]

this is 100% getting nerfed

[upper narwhal]

Wait are people on NA getting more shards than they should?

[hushed roost]

No spamming t1 ritual

4 min run for me

[tribal vortex]

We don't know how many we should

[upper narwhal]

Ohh

[light finch]

crafted items seem to bug, will still be 285

[upper narwhal]

I have not stepped in to a ritual site once I guess I will have to

[dusky yacht]

Weird, someone earlier posted a 298 mh

So it's only bugged for some? Did you try reload?

[keen dome]

Crafted won't go to 298, it goes to 295. So if it wa sa 298 MH, it was probably not crafted

[lilac stag]

@swift tinsel bountiful 11 3/3 voids

[light finch]

normal items seem to work, crafted items (weapon) seem to be bugged, but will surely fixed in time.

[dusky yacht]

Oh right

[humble jolt]

is this crap not working on mythic weapons?

[lilac stag]

it works

[humble jolt]

weird

ill relog or something

[keen dome]

It seems to be bugged on Crafted, but can't verify myself

[keen dome]

Weird

[bitter iris]

are we using it on crafted or myth main hand? my main hand is edge of burning sun

[outer orchid]

what do the shards drop from? any content or raid only?

[keen dome]

Raid, M+, Bountiful Delves, Prey, Ritual Site

[bitter iris]

i did LFR for mine and got 5/5 easily up to cosmo

[outer orchid]

so i'm just giga unlucky

[outer orchid]

yeah thats what i'm going to do

is there a cap currently?

i would assume so but

never know

[brazen stone]

so can u only upgrade 1 thing a week or can u farm multiple of these upgrade things and upgrade multiple pieces this week?

[vale pine]

we don't know

somone on NA needs to have 1 completed and get 2 extra shards to drop to confirm

[outer orchid]

o7

[vale pine]

which means, it will be easy to test over time

EU (so many players, including me), can just wait and see

[humble jolt]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You need to be next to the voidforge guy thing

[keen dome]

Oooh

Good to know

[tidal solstice]

Recommend doing normal over LFR. Faster to knock out 6. I only got two from the run.

[civic vale]

i have 2 items upgraded

and 1 shard

so i doubt there's a cap

[vale pine]

nice

so seems no cap

[tight elk]

its ok, people will upgrade a ton of gear today, and then tomorrow change the cap to 1 item a week lmao

[outer orchid]

exploit early
exploit often

[warm marlin]

its really not that big a gain

289 to 298 gaze is like 0.7% for my character

[tight elk]

For a wep tho, I assume its bigger then that

due to topend

[warm marlin]

yes, mh weapon is bigger

but that's always what u would use the 1 capped a week on

[west tide]

bro i can barely get cores what did u dooo

[tight elk]

I just need to finish work, and go spam some ritual sites

[civic vale]

raid and bountiful delves

[spice matrix]

spamming these rituals is ASSSS and they dont drop

[west tide]

i did normal and now im doin heroic

i only got 3

so sadd

[proud anchor]

Quick question as a subtlety idiot. Is there a point in the shadow blades cooldown where i should just pool the shadow dance 2nd stack and wait. say with less than 25 secs to go hold it? and on that basis i assume i dont fire off Sec Tech without dance and just leave that off until big burst with two dance blades etc? I hope that makes sense?

[west tide]

yes dude i was taking psychic damage after i did 5

i said i cantt

i had to go do somethin else

[vale pine]

1.5% from MH weapon
0.5-0.7% per trinket
0.2-0.4% from OH weapon

means its a total of roughly 3-4% buff for everyone

[swift tinsel]

My beloved they call to me

[vale pine]

what content did you do to farm?

[civic vale]

mostly raid i did normal and lfr then bountiful delves

i got 4/4 on bountiful delves

[vale pine]

ah nice, i wonder what will be the most efficient

probably ritual sites, delves and other casual content

[sage ivy]

From using keys?

[civic vale]

yes

[prime elm]

can someone help me with my macro?

#showtooltip Secret Technique
/stopmacro [@playertarget, noexists]
/cancelaura Stealth
/use 14
/cast shadow dance
/cast Secret Technique

it works well, except when im in stealth

[dusky yacht]

Upside down but I guess it's fine like apparently it's gonna take us a single day to get it all done (lmao)

[prime elm]

have full combo points, and want to use this macro from stealth, it jsut jumps to secret tech

i tried the cancelaura stealth line to see if that fixed it but does not

[vale pine]

I mean, if you do m+, you likely get enough

so probably no need to go out of your way

[drifting ether]

Forgot i didn't open get something from last weeks vault

[sage ivy]

Not tried a macro like this but double check that it's on your stealth bar. Could otherwise be that shadow dance stealth restriction is slow to lift after cancelaura

[prime elm]

yea in thinking there is too much of delay for shadow dance and stealth bugging it,just wondered if anyone else found a fix or knows whats up

[vale pine]

probably can't fix it as you want to cancle stealth and cast dance at the same time

[glass kelp]

Should be able to get off a sectec/dance every ~20 seconds after blades. Given I haven't been a suck player am doing what I should be, it lines up to where blades should be off cd with 10 seconds to go on second dance charge, and I can just send it. Usually am able to fit two sectecs in all windows

[vale pine]

and dance can't be cast during stealth

so the server won't know that you lost stealth buff fast enough to not require two key presses

[icy helm]

ive just upgraded my dagger, when switching to an alt to get quest there was nothing, does that mean i can just loot ascendant cores x5 again or am i missing something ?

[sage ivy]

Could maybe add nostealth conditions and press the macro twice

[prisma ibex]

after i used my first upgrade my hammer\ show nothing anymore, not even 0/4 or 4/4

and i can`t drop anymore of the shards.., did everything that i could, it may just be bad luck, idk

[west bloom]

im sure it has been asked before but how long will you hold onto a coup to line it up with dance?

[vale pine]

could be buggy too

[proud anchor]

its likely im just offsetting CD's over time and then they dont line up - what i find is that i can get through first burst and normally second but at around the 3rd my sech tech is normally ready for the second dance in the blade window but dance still has 8-10 secs to go.

[vale pine]

you technically don't want to hold, but you can for a short time before dance comes up

[west bloom]

word ty!

[drifting ether]

@vale pine can we run double myth weapon or is the belishment that strong

[vale pine]

embellishment wins out

offhand weapon item level is not that important

[vale osprey]

Guys I'm progging Lura and have a subtelty speciailisation rogue question - any EXPERTS?

[hushed roost]

unfortuantely we all play dk in this channel

[vale pine]

think its easier to just ask the specific questions, we have multiple players in here who already killed her or still progress

[lilac stag]

This is a DK channel

[molten hull]

https://tenor.com/view/howyy-gif-14677769772756874928

[prime elm]

exactly what i did. Ty. Works. Just have ot press twice. one to cancel stealth then jump into macro. Thanks guys

[hushed roost]

1/10 on voidshards in

[quaint lodge]

wtf when did we rebrand to a real class

[hushed roost]

ritual

im gonna end it all

[quaint lodge]

[lilac stag]

2 weeks ago

[somber sun]

how fast was it to get the voidcore upgrade ? ( with normal luck )

[vale pine]

to go further into it, the item level diffrence is basically the same on a diffrent slot from crafting.
So you don't gain any extra item level by switching away from weapon.
Offhand weapons also:

• Get their dps reduced (dual weilding pelalty)
• Are not in damage calculations for ability
  Both contributes to the slot being one of the weaker ones.

[vale pine]

Rogue rogue is now Subtlety rogue

class fixed

[quaint lodge]

[warm marlin]

i played outlaw for 200 pulls but i normally main sub and looked into it

now playing a slightly differently colored 90s spec

[vale osprey]

Thank you guys, Ryldd my question is: How do I remove Glaives from this fucking game? 🙂

I'm fuckin SICK OF EM