subtlety

[kind edge]

u also can do on m+, before they key u can use it. when it starts u dont lose it

[brisk onyx]

Why you ask this question in both two channels

[lucid jackal]

To get opinions from multiple ppl

[peak ice]

what app do you use to log dungeons?

[short radish]

warcraftlogs

make sure to download the non overwolf version

fuck overwolf

[kind edge]

true, annoying poping ads all the time

[plush roost]

Someones gonna choke p4

You just know it

[swift tinsel]

Myth gaze first roll on first myth chim kill yeye

[brisk onyx]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[zenith basalt]

multiple opinions

why you ask? Because sometimes I feel like the Outlaw RNG doesn't favor me.

[swift tinsel]

rank 42 movin up in the world lol

[warm marlin]

i hate this fight again

bring back dimensius

[plush roost]

Bring back Rik-a-rik-a-reverb

[tribal blade]

RIKARIKAREVERBBB

[brisk onyx]

Because the opinions you get from both sides will have different tendencies, ultimately it depends on which spec you prefer to play

[hollow spear]

Rik can only come back if melee adds are immune to ranged damage

[warm marlin]

rik can come back if evasion works again

[native zodiac]

i still remember that random patch they fixed that

[hollow spear]

TRUE

[native zodiac]

wonderful experience

[hollow spear]

I hate every second of it

[lilac stag]

paladins is good for running 10s on warrior

[hollow spear]

Made me doubt my button pressing

[lucid jackal]

3 bonus rolls later

[lilac stag]

268 ilvl now lol

[tribal blade]

huge!

[plush roost]

Beloran chest

[lucid jackal]

huh

[strange chasm]

303 haste giga

[lucid jackal]

2 sockets!

[tribal blade]

does the midnight helm keep the leech when you cata it, iirc it does

[lucid jackal]

yes

[tribal blade]

huge

[brisk onyx]

Nice leech

[hollow spear]

Ds when?

[strange chasm]

man when coup lines up with the ads on lura

you CRUNCH them

[chilly tree]

how much of subs damage profile is physical?

[gilded ferry]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lucid jackal]

Literally never

[left ledge]

ok so

[lucid jackal]

Gonna farm the algathar ring

[left ledge]

im cancelaura'ing ancient arts when it will fuck my DN proc

is that cope or is that genuinely the best thing to do on DS

[gilded ferry]

holy hell, i never noticed it was 303 haste

[left ledge]

my head hurt trying to minmax DS man

[hollow spear]

Not sure I can follow why you'd cancelaura it

[left ledge]

if you're building before a dance and proc AA for a normal evis

you wouldnt want to spend it on the normal evis is what i feel

so i cancelaura it

evis normally

proc DN

dance into DN with apex

[gilded ferry]

we really should be locked in asylum

look at what bro is doing for the love of the game

[short radish]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

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[ember hound]

ty lol

[tepid quartz]

!feint

[wicked jolt]

Atrophic /Feint in Raid: > Click to Open <

[small sleet]

for beloren second burn, do we pre stack supercharged combo points for that one as well? and if so, at what point do yall stop using finishers

[hollow spear]

Okay yeah, understood

[left ledge]

well dont do it

idk if its actually good or not

it just feels right to me

[hollow spear]

What I hate about ds is that you want to dance at low cp with storm. At the same time you either want to go into dance with dn or one off dn.

Which leads to you just standing there like npc

A lot of times when I'm getting too optimistic and try to go all in to farm another cycle, I end up delaying dance or go into it with like superlow sht stacks.

[ember hull]

should i have elusivness instead of cheat death for 18s

i felt like i was just rotting in skyreach

[small sleet]

yes

elusiveness is an extremely strong talent, and cheat death only gets value when you or others mess up, so while its a nice backup, its not really the correct choice for high keys

[ember hull]

yeah cause i just like died twice spamming feint and stuff thinking i had it on

im like i promise everything was up

[normal wadi]

hey my goal is to push keys, im currently sub and dont know how to play outlaw or assass but im wondering if its worth learning one for higher keys?

[small sleet]

sub works in high keys

if you enjoy it stick with it

[hollow spear]

If you pug, you won't get invited no matter the spec

[somber sun]

lol!

[idle echo]

sub works fine, but no inv. so u need to push own keys and thats can be a bit annoying

[ember hull]

yeah rn im working on 18s but only able to do it cause i have a brewmaster and a lock in the guild that pushed there already and then let me go with them

like im not a carry but just couldnt get invited to anything above a 16

[lilac stag]

reroll DK if you want to push

[ember hull]

i feel like we are pretty usefull, shroud, tricks, kidney punch is huge

[somber sun]

Kappa

[lilac stag]

Shroud has zero use

[ember hull]

like skyreach i just took out the add that grabs us everytime

[lilac stag]

Tricks is whatever

[somber sun]

I'd rather quit the game

[lilac stag]

we don’t redirect shit in dance

[somber sun]

[idle echo]

skyreach is such a good dung for sub, just did 20+ with 3 mins left

[somber sun]

Pit too lowkey

[ember hull]

shroud was useful to time a 17 caverns after the lock pulled accidentally and we had to skip

[hollow spear]

Idk we're pretty decent rn, but perception won't change probably

[ember hull]

tricks has saved a pull multiple times if things get on the wrong person

[somber sun]

Legacy dungeons

[somber sun]

I think ppl skip the rogue part on patch notes

[valid ocean]

!prepull

[wicked jolt]

Pre Pull Cheeses:
Recommended - Supercharge - Using Shadow Dance before pull gives you 2 supercharger charges, this is easy to perform and can be done without any loss given the infinite timer on supercharger.

• Explanation: Only the first 2 stacks of Supercharger don't reset on a boss pull, and you can easily press Dance early enough to have full charges on pull.
  NOT Recommended - Disoriented Strikes - Using Secret Technique gives you disoriented strikes, you can start bosses with the benefits when using Secret before a wipe or on Trash carefully.
• Explanation: Disoriented does not reset on boss pull, but this trick requires a lot of attention and can't be done consistently, so is not recommended.
  Damage Impact: Both Cheeses lead to a bit more than 1% damage gain in a 5 minute Patchwerk simulation.

[somber sun]

Or maybe dont understand that we get buffs

Mind you

Uhdk and frost mages are reading those

[normal wadi]

when is best time to use vanish?

[somber sun]

to fill downtime when no shadow dance up usually

[vagrant lynx]

or to cancel a cast

[somber sun]

(+ no shadow technique stacks to fill 7cp in =<2 back stabs)

[vagrant lynx]

cancelling runic glaives on MT feels so nice

[somber sun]

True true

[normal wadi]

oh thats cool, didnt know that

[somber sun]

Ohh the beam too on skyreach

[ember hull]

yeah i was gonna say

u can vanish that off

[normal wadi]

the robot add?

[somber sun]

Yep

[vagrant lynx]

ye

[normal wadi]

ahh

[somber sun]

Let the healer relax a bit

[vagrant lynx]

nelf racial works the same

[somber sun]

Lowkey op

I regret not going rogue on either that or pandaren

[ember hull]

does that prepull cheese work at like start of dungeon

[real python]

Yea NE is an extra comfort for these kind of mechanics

[somber sun]

Yeah during countdown

Or in the bubble after

As you like

[somber sun]

Yeah having 2x vanish is

[short radish]

WHY THE FUCK DOES BLIZZARD DESIGN RAIDS AND DUNGEONS AROUND DK UNIQUE UTILITY BUT ACTIVELY DESIGNS AGAINST OUR UNIQUE UTILITY

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-screaming-gif-11035878

[real python]

https://tenor.com/view/dizzy-true-truth-nuke-guilty-gear-xrd-gif-15265082004926335105

[short radish]

LIKE WHY THE FUCK DO THEY GIVE BOSSES TRUE SIGHT AS WELL

[real python]

Yea that's so weird lol

[lilac stag]

WHY DOES WHEN OUR UNIQUE ABILITY HAVE ACTUAL USE IT’S ON A BOSS ENCOUNTER WE CANT DO DAMAGE ON?! ?
(为什么偏偏只有在面对那个我们根本无法造成伤害的Boss时，我们那独一无二的特殊能力才真正派得上用场？!)

[real python]

Last time I actually used it was probably DF S4 AA, and that was to help tank setting his pack up, not an actual skip

[left ledge]

no kill

[lilac stag]

are you watching my guild’s Paladin prog with overtime?

[lilac stag]

Shit you’re getting there

[ember hull]

this mythic? sheesh

[valid ocean]

!aa

[wicked jolt]

Apex talent optimization:

• Is shadow dance up? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have 5 or more stacks of shadow techniques? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Do you have Darkest Night up OR A supercharged combo point? - :ballot_box_with_check: Yes
• Is ancient arts up? - :x: No
  If all of the above are true, use cast a Shadowstrike / Shuriken Storm (even if on full cp).

[lilac stag]

lfr

[warm marlin]

are you guys just committing to skipping 3rd memory game or

just a hard mechanic

[left ledge]

lmao no we're just dying to stupid shit

[warm marlin]

i am literally decimating the boss on fdk

[lilac stag]

Imagine if he was a DK boss dead

[left ledge]

idk bout that

[lilac stag]

Your DK trolling playing UH

[left ledge]

i was playing DS whole night

he was frost yesterday

[lilac stag]

I’m sorry

[left ledge]

[hollow spear]

Maybe he got cold feet?

[lilac stag]

Did you actually get enough haste?

[left ledge]

yes

well no but

i basically could not lose a single millisecond

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/impressive-darth-vader-most-impressive-gif-1233758011459247961

[left ledge]

or id lose a gcd

playing with 8.1 sec dance duration

[lilac stag]

you hate yourself. I appreciate that go get ‘em attitude.

[hollow spear]

That's the one good thing about ds

No cursed 1.2s gcd finisher

[strange chasm]

frostttt dk????

[warm marlin]

yes

[hollow spear]

I got buffed by 5% like the 17th time, has to be good eventually

[ember hull]

dk joins my 17 says if he wasnt top damage person gets 100k

nexus point, he dies on first boss and we abandon

i say where my 100k

[somber sun]

Death strike btw

And DR in kit

[hollow spear]

5head approach

[somber sun]

Just saying

[ember hull]

bro said he doubled my damage on the first pack

we literally did 10k difference dps

[hollow spear]

Lose on the meter? Just die and abandon

[short radish]

damage on the first pack in AA

[somber sun]

[ember hull]

nexus penus

[somber sun]

What would you even die to there xd

Ultra boosted

[hollow spear]

No spot healing ofc, can't you read?

[somber sun]

[hollow spear]

I ran out of health pots once and wondered why I was dying all of a sudden

Kinda crazy how much they carry

[gilded ferry]

this crackdown that blizzard made was for fucking nothing

the addons are all back but way more buggy

[ember hull]

he died to arcane spill

[somber sun]

Im thinking of finding a duo lock

[gilded ferry]

auto potion worked flawlessly for me before, now its weird as fuck

[ember hull]

aka the puddle of the floor

[somber sun]

So he can provide me with hs on demand

[ember hull]

LMFAO BRO

[hollow spear]

Imagine offering up a 100k challenge and then typing "it's fair to charge 100k"

Idk, would have dropped the conversation long ago if I were you

But then again, we're playing rogue and have to sit in queue for an hour anyway

[ember hull]

sometimes its fun to engage someone maldin

[tribal blade]

if only he had the most busted heal in the game as a dps

[patent surge]

Should i use puzzlebox or guidon in m+？

[tribal blade]

yeah i stopped engaging with people in keys

makes for much happier mental

[ember hull]

i gotta keep our reputation up as friednly memebrs of the community

[somber sun]

peebox

M+

Very gud

Big pull = big pp damage = tank happy

[hollow spear]

Idk, I'm a big box hater

Seems to be in a better space now tho

ST loss was worse a couple of weeks ago, at least based on what I see

[lilac stag]

did deathstrike get purged?

[frosty ravine]

guys I'm at 747 haste as trickster but sim still tells me haste is highest prio. I also get to just cast the second sectech as the last global of SB. Is that normal?

[somber sun]

If you can already cast 2x sectech per dance without guidon you can start investing into mastery

[frosty ravine]

2 sectech per dance?

[somber sun]

Oops

Shadow blades

Excuse me

[earnest crane]

2 sec tech per dance ? :I

how

[frosty ravine]

so why is the stat weight is like this?

[somber sun]

W ragebait

I might be super wrong but I wouldn't trust stat weight in this scenario

[frosty ravine]

this is also my stats.

[somber sun]

Sim is prob waiting for you to reach 800 without guidon

So it starts recommending mastery

Waa 36% cc ??

[frosty ravine]

dabbled in sin for a while :p

[small sleet]

You need more haste to get the second sectech to be entirely in blades

If you’re casting sectech as the last global before blades ends, the clones, aka the hard hitting part of it, hit after blades has ended

[frosty ravine]

so that rule about 650-700 haste, how does that work?

[ember hull]

thats if you have guidion

[small sleet]

650-700 is for if you’re using guidon

[frosty ravine]

oh

back to mines

[small sleet]

You want closer to 800 if you don’t have it

[normal wadi]

Are you casting second sec tech without supercharged?

[somber sun]

Yeah

If no bl

[frosty ravine]

I don't think it's possible to do it supercharged is it?

[normal wadi]

Oh I’ve been waiting for my 3rd dance to use sec tech

I’m dumb

[somber sun]

!blades

[wicked jolt]

Trickster Shadow Blades Optimization:
During Shadow Blades, line up your second Shadow Dance with the last 8 seconds of Shadow Blades instead of using them back-to-back. This allows you to fit another Secret Technique into Shadow Blades+Shadow Dance. It will not be supercharged but thats ok in this scenario.

[somber sun]

Nah bro I didn't know it when I started too

[normal wadi]

Ahh

Thanks

[somber sun]

With Bl you can do the other way

Cause of the crazy haste

[frosty ravine]

so I think most people don't run guidon in m+ right? Does that mean you never get to do the second sectech in m+?

[vagrant lynx]

ppl dont run guidon in m+?

[small sleet]

Most people do run guidon in m+

[frosty ravine]

really? I thought it's box + gaze

[lilac stag]

only people running box are the ones specifically pulling around it while tanking their boss dmg. This is dumb

Subs boss dmg is pretty cracked right now and not worth losing

[small sleet]

Box is pretty equal to guidon in m+. You lose some single target to gain a little aoe. Box is harder to make good use of compared to guidon, so it’s almost always the wrong choice

Yeah what scath said

[clever fable]

I've had both guidon and box as of late, and guidon both feels better and does more damage over all for me

[normal wadi]

So use my bonus rolls for guidon even tho I have puzzle?

[lilac stag]

our aoe will never be what others can do. Lean into the strength of the spec.

[small sleet]

If you raid you definitely want guidon

[lilac stag]

even a champ guidon is worth it

[normal wadi]

I’m only raiding for gear

[clever fable]

I've skipped trying to get a myth guidon bcs it's only really a bit of primary stat you gain imo.

[vagrant lynx]

btw, how many targets is enough to use the other combat pot?

[lilac stag]

Are you pressing BP? Worth it

[small sleet]

Probably have to sim it, but for me it started being better at 2

[vagrant lynx]

rly

[short radish]

remember to pot before guidon

[lilac stag]

it’s close on single target for me

[small sleet]

Yeah because you start pressing black powder at 2 targets and potent powder makes black powder scale very well with mastery

[hollow spear]

The cursed 3k haste tfd opener

[vagrant lynx]

yea i forgot on the first key i used it and did absolute bottom on 1st pull XD

[short radish]

20 second dance

[hollow spear]

You have to send your second sectec without sc it

[lilac stag]

@short radish can you save me from paladitty prison? They don’t kill it.

[hollow spear]

Truly ahead of its time

[short radish]

you know what

just enjoy your time on paladins

because it gets worse

[hollow spear]

Do it like I do and go on vacation for pallies and crown

[ember hull]

yeah im 21st manning for our pallys

[lilac stag]

I’m waiting to see if we just follow RWF comps and I sit on bench

[ember hull]

raid leadin from outside

[hollow spear]

Raid leading aka watching Netflix?

[lilac stag]

I’m pretty sure we actually need atrophic but I’m not going to have that conversation

[short radish]

we do and im pretty sure sub is good now for crown

[ember hull]

wait tru

[short radish]

or not worth not bringing

[lilac stag]

sub is good on crown looking at boss dmg

[hollow spear]

Yeah it is

It was pretty decent even before the buffs

RWF could just get away with not bothering

[lilac stag]

I’m surprised at our boss dmg in keys. Noticeable difference.

[hollow spear]

To before last patch you mean?

[lilac stag]

No. After cloud destruction

[hollow spear]

That's what I meant

[ember hull]

yeah its pretty good st on bosses

like around 100k steady i think

depending obv

[hollow spear]

I feel like on most weeklies, I got to use blades only once per boss and it almost came up again

[lilac stag]

before last patch was before 12.0.5. Want reset just a hotfix /tuning?

My brain is mush

Listening to 3.25 hours of Paladin wipes

[hollow spear]

I thought 12.0.5 introduced cover

[lilac stag]

Yes

[hollow spear]

And the patch now killed it again

[lilac stag]

we’re still .5 patch. I think we’re saying same thing.

After outlaw got nerfed. Our sT dmg feels better.

[ember hull]

aint we .7

according to last day of m+ logs we on top for rouges

lfg

[short radish]

Rip cloud cover 12.0.5 - 12.0.5

[lilac stag]

.7 is soon

[ember hull]

ah that the spore time

[lilac stag]

GN friends. Enjoy your day.

[somber sun]

Next month ??

[brisk onyx]

middle June

[somber sun]

zzzzz

[verbal glen]

alo

[cursive vapor]

They just made a mistake, cloud cover was supposed to be the big revamp for the last titan

[vale pine]

good morning lovely people

[uncut juniper]

[foggy estuary]

Gm bros! Saladbar dead, now gona wipe a million times on dragons i guess 😅

[keen steppe]

Good morning legend

[hollow spear]

Time to download the orb timings to pad

[foggy estuary]

I think i have to make a macro to target them as well because on hc some times sec tec not targeting the little shits :p

[solemn sonnet]

Id just hit off dragons, hopefully you guys have grips to group them

[foggy estuary]

We have two dks in raid and can bring a third if i swap to mine

Which i think will be doing on paladins or go havoc. Not gone be benched i believe because im always top 3 but i guess its better to prog with dk on that fight🤷‍♂️

Need to bribe priesto for PI 🫠

[celest mulch]

!up

[wicked jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[serene notch]

what part of the world are you in fuu?

[vale pine]

cental europe

literally

[cursive vapor]

dir auch einen bezaubernden morgen fuu!

[vale pine]

(austria)

[serene notch]

i hear prague is nice

[vale pine]

prague is nice

[upbeat cradle]

I hear Fuu is nice

[serene notch]

lol

[alpine wraith]

fuu is the lynchpin in europe

[upbeat cradle]

Fuu is holding us together

[serene notch]

googling Austria makes it seem like its nothing but castles

[keen dome]

How many castles per capia

[serene notch]

yes many

[alpine wraith]

austria and germany have many castles yea

[alpine wraith]

spain too

[serene notch]

thats crazy looking

[empty bobcat]

no way bro 🙂 (servas!)

[serene notch]

like is that....frozen?

[vale pine]

haha, we do have a lot of them

[empty bobcat]

you live here or just vacation?

[vale pine]

also a lot of small lakes

[keen dome]

I wish I lived somewhere pretty

[empty bobcat]

its lot of mountains actually, most part of the country is alps

[foggy estuary]

Any other greek rogs?👀

[weary tree]

I have greek yoghurt if that counts

[foggy estuary]

Bis yogurt😆 +20 agi

Good for deadlifts and fat eviscerates

[vale osprey]

Casualaddict is greek

(I think)

[foggy estuary]

Oooo lfg

[vale pine]

sadly don't have many good pictures at hand

[keen dome]

Alas

[shadow snow]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hollow spear]

It's a known fact that fuu writes his wowhead articles at the end of one of these long ass tables somewhere in an Austrian castle.

And he maniacally cackles whenever he writes a paragraph about some cursed minmax.

[vale pine]

thats a very old one, from one of the smaller lakes near me.
taken with a mobile phone, so not good quality.
But better than what you find on google XD

[hollow spear]

Is that where you drown your enemies?

[keen dome]

damn, that rules

[short radish]

it's where he drowns people asking about stat weights

[keen dome]

see, why can't I live near pretty places!

[vale pine]

haha yes

[vale pine]

everything has positives and negatives

living in bigger cities has more activities and options

[keen dome]

Ye

[hollow spear]

Where were you based again iGestalt?

[vale pine]

living in more rual areas is a lot more relaxed, there is less going on in general

[desert whale]

We use instant and atrophic poisons in pve?

[vale pine]

in m+ most of the time mind numbing

but yes

instant poison and atrophic is the best default

[desert whale]

Oh i dont even have option for mind numbing😆

[hollow spear]

Gotta talent into it

It's either atrophic or mind numbing iirc

[ornate lake]

Zoomer kids have this so easy. They never had to play this button bloat shadowdust turbodemon

[desert whale]

Yeah im blind as bat, found it in talents.

[vital ocean]

i miss shadowdust so much

[fiery fog]

It maybe was a turbodemon
But it was my turbodemon :(

[vale pine]

its the 2nd option for this talent point

[ornate lake]

We all do brother, we all do

[tribal blade]

what is this CB and tea talented shenanigans

or am i misremembering a time when we had both

[desert whale]

@vale pine Thanks😄

[ornate lake]

dragonflight shenanigans

tea macroed to sectech

[tribal blade]

my memory must be shot haha

[ornate lake]

in S2 we couldn't even macro dance and symbols together because of the tier set. You would need seperate keybinds for that lmao

[vital ocean]

good old "oh sorry i died i was trying to use my cooldowns"

having to play the full pinao

[tribal blade]

i remember that yeah

[ornate lake]

you could feel in your bones that the devs didn't want people to play rogues lmao. but we are too stubborn to play anything else lmao

[tribal blade]

needing to wait till ~3 secs left on your existing symbols to press it again

[ornate lake]

yayy

[tribal blade]

that was also popping tea to get more gloomblades off after dances ended

or blades ended

[ornate lake]

Sub wins:-

1>rippo sepsis
2>rippo symbols
3>rippo cdr
4>rippo vanish gaming

Sub Ls:-

1> rippo prio/funnel
2>rippo giga burst
3>rippo sec tech clone big damage

[peak ice]

I can’t change now

It’s too late

[tribal blade]

i miss all those things

bring back funnel with banshee's blight

make blades do more amp

make sectec our biggest source of dmg

still feels weird to me not seeing sectec on top of our breakdown

[ornate lake]

Funnest part of sub rogue has always been the "fishing for big hits"

Now we no longer have big hits

we just fish for sardines now

[tribal blade]

sub has become evis simulator

[ornate lake]

cdr and vansih gaming was problematic i agree. But not worth losing the prio/burst form. Also they removed sepsis but left goremaw lmao. Even worse talent

[sick epoch]

What will we be upgrading first next week? Weapons or trinkets?

[ornate lake]

black powder gaming

[tribal blade]

bringing back goremaw's was such a colossally bad idea

[tribal blade]

TRUE that too

[tribal blade]

weapon

[grizzled hornet]

please give that baaack

[tribal blade]

MH wep is the biggest dps increase

[ornate lake]

just make it a passive outside dance and have it apply a shadow dot like rupture. Solves so many things while keeping class fantasy

[sick epoch]

So the 289 one not the crafted ye?

[tribal blade]

i'd be down for that

[ornate lake]

yayy

[tribal blade]

yeah, more ilvl is better

[sick epoch]

Ty guys

[keen steppe]

Funny yesterday i get a discussion with someone it was like:

When i want good funnel or prio i invite a sub rogur

[tribal blade]

hrm interesting

[ornate lake]

dude stuck in shadowlands lmao

[tribal blade]

must have gotten sub mixed up with sin

[grizzled hornet]

its annoying at this point that we are stuck as a funnel/prio spec and when u bp u pad

[ornate lake]

someone asked why i was bp'ing on the second boss of seats lmao

[grizzled hornet]

LMAO

[ornate lake]

how can i explain him lol

[grizzled hornet]

on low target cleave we rly need god

[ornate lake]

we got a dollar store version of blade flurry bro

[grizzled hornet]

btw @tribal blade due to our convo the other day, i started Community again

[tribal blade]

NICE

[grizzled hornet]

peak humor

[tribal blade]

i was actually rewatching it recently and got up to S4

[desert whale]

Guys in delves do you use valeera as dps or other role?

[tribal blade]

healer is best

[grizzled hornet]

just use it as healer to be safe, u are alrdy blasting it

[desert whale]

Oke cheers

[mighty citrus]

if sb does more dmg in keys, just tricks them

5head

rogue nr1

[mystic matrix]

cloud cover ＞ no scruples in M+?

[ornate lake]

sim bro. It's no longer the case btw

[tribal blade]

cloud sims better, wouldn't trust it though

[ornate lake]

noscruples got buffed

[jade oasis]

make SS cleave again.

[tribal blade]

i think no scruples is better

[mystic matrix]

i think so too...

[peak ice]

Scruples is just always on right

[tribal blade]

just by way of how keys work you're not sending blades on cd

[peak ice]

Doesn’t need blades to start it

Sorry I asked earlier but I missed the answer, but how do you log dungeons

Is it the same archon app

[tribal blade]

i think if cloud still covered the entire of blades it would be far more desirable

[ornate lake]

no way we are supposed to have fun

you'll do your weekly and you'll be happy

[jade oasis]

i send blades on cd in keys

[grizzled hornet]

as long as u combat logging there will be a combat log file in your folder that you can upload, you could also live log a dungeon session

[tribal blade]

haha hell yeah

must have god timings

[jade oasis]

(i play with my tank so he pulls for me)

[tribal blade]

ahhh ok

[jade oasis]

bro having tank premade is like

so op

[tribal blade]

yeah it helps a ton

knowing the exact route for every dungeon you'll be doing

massive

[desert whale]

Playing Sub as main , what would be fiting caster to have as alt

[tribal blade]

a lot of people are doing dev dh atm

[peak ice]

I have a mage and a devourer

[tribal blade]

because it's guaranteed to be good

[peak ice]

Both are good

Warlock is pretty broken though tbh

Kinda wish I had made one

[desert whale]

Yeah i was thinking about mage, devourer is range?

[peak ice]

Yea just like

Short range

[tribal blade]

yeah short range though

like 25 yards

same as evoker

[peak ice]

Mage is super easy to pick up

Plus you got lust so you get all the party invites for keys

[desert whale]

Probs will go as mage, just to be kinda classic caster

[peak ice]

You’re basically stuck to frost though atm

[desert whale]

Should be fine as frost, even arcane looks cool

[peak ice]

Arcane and fire are both pretty under tuned

The damage is really bad and you get way less survival

[hollow spear]

I kinda want arcane to be good

Will level my mage to 90 when I'm back from vacation

[steel zinc]

New dh spec

Or arcane

[hollow spear]

I don't really fw frost

[jade oasis]

i only like fire

[hollow spear]

Not sure if arcane is still the ranged sub after the midnight changes

[jade oasis]

i love spamming my space button

[hollow spear]

Actually not sure if sub is still the melee sub after the midnight changes

[empty bobcat]

did this happen to any of you?

I just shadow strike and insta dead

[alpine wraith]

arcane seems like it got super nerfed so it is not op but decent

[empty bobcat]

cant start with stealth on high keys?

[tribal blade]

poop in the middle

hits super hard

[alpine wraith]

yea middle shit deletes

[empty bobcat]

u cant dodge it

[tribal blade]

you can't use step or strike port on that boss

you will get 1 shot

[empty bobcat]

ok

[latent remnant]

sprint in before shadowstrike

so you're in melee range

[empty bobcat]

it never happened to me below 15

[tribal blade]

you have to be very careful when moving around the boss too

dip your pinky toe in it

you're gonna have a bad time

[blissful ivy]

If ur to far away u step in mid shit

[empty bobcat]

I literally just pressed SStrike and died

[tribal blade]

yeah it hits omega hard

i found that out early season haha, did the exact same thing as you

also the melee tech for that boss is very interesting

where you just run in and out of beams very fast

[blissful ivy]

If ur in melee already u should be able to press ss and not step

[tribal blade]

to negate the dmg

[jade oasis]

careful using it on 3rd boss too bc

it can port you off platform :)

[tribal blade]

oh shit i haven't had that happen yet

good to know

gally shenanigans

[latent remnant]

3rd boss is the bird right?

I've never stepped and gotten off platform, but when you run back after hiding at the pillar do not step before tank is there or the bird melees you insta

[jade oasis]

i remember SSing and being ported off and then having to shadow step back on (?)

i’ve noticed only strike port takes you off

[tribal blade]

lol i did that on crown last week

managed to step back to the boss to save myself

[sturdy zenith]

!guide

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[empty bobcat]

never happened to me too

also first time I got rekt on that robot

[empty bobcat]

I pressed strike it ports to the boss too and it rekt me... ss is literally a step and a strike

[blissful ivy]

If ur close enough it shouldn't do the step part

[empty bobcat]

hm ok maybe I was a little bit too far away then, will try next time

[drifting ether]

16 mt no puzzle box sheesh sub slaps now, i wanna see puzzle box numbers

[empty bobcat]

not bad, which dungeon?

[drifting ether]

Magisters terrace, rip i wasnt logging

[empty bobcat]

ah yes terrace is really nice for us

[drifting ether]

You know whats nice new bear that shit slaps

[empty bobcat]

yeah I am seeing a lot of em

[shadow lance]

I need to tell my tank to change route, i barely reach the 160k as assa

I was in raid build but still, we were all at 160k

[finite lark]

hey guys, which dps pot are u running, light's potential / recklessness?

[shadow lance]

The simming the highest

So light potential atm for me

[mystic matrix]

i use light for raids,recklessness for M+

[finite lark]

yeah sims tell me same and i was like that's a bit weird but prolly right

[empty bobcat]

light sims better for me on dungeon slice

[mystic matrix]

not much difference,use whichever u like..

[tight fjord]

am i supposed to reforge this already

so im 702 with oils

[vale pine]

you can

[tight fjord]

a little extra is nice if you arent gcd perfect right

[dusky yacht]

It is

It's basically up to you

[idle echo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8TnBXdN31StwD432yLUZNo any thoughts on crit in m+?

[errant pagoda]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1FCJwrkTrjGA5XMc9m3dok

for me it says mastery > crit/vers

[minor osprey]

bad

[drifting ether]

First 18 done, damn i played bad died like 3 times, aa is hard

[small sleet]

here's the real question though, did you eviscerate or black powder on first boss

[normal wadi]

So I’ve killed chimaerus hc this week, if I rekill him, can I get a different log?

[small sleet]

yes

but you cant receive any loot or anything obviously

[normal wadi]

Okay thanks

[drifting ether]

Black powder 🤣
Just trying to get comps where i can play optimally

[small sleet]

shame!!!!

haha jk, as long as its not just everyone fighting over lasher pad its not a big deal

[drifting ether]

Hahah dont worry when they were 20% or so i went full st

[tribal blade]

funny story i walked into 18 AA a few weeks ago for the first time and timed it 1 shot

that's my single 18 done

[drifting ether]

Aa gotta be every rogues test for 18s

[tribal blade]

lol yeah

[drifting ether]

I had it few weeks ago and failed on last boss 🤣

[tribal blade]

i actually played sin in it

also that was me playing sin for the first time in AA

double first

[drifting ether]

Bruh i cant get into playing sin, i tried it but i would rather play ds sub

[tribal blade]

i sometimes enjoy sin

but usually i get tilted by the energy thing

now that sub is performing a lot better i'm prob just gonna play sub if i do more keys

it was pretty funny, that AA i did was this warr's 18 resil

and she was so happy she added me and couldn't stop going on about it

[drifting ether]

Yeah 100% i wanna push on it when its good, i also got my arms warrior which am playing again since slayers good

[tribal blade]

prob saw my low IO and thought "damn, this is gonna be another brick"

[drifting ether]

Hahaha io aint shit so many people with high io, only from spamming keys

[tribal blade]

hehe i'm jebaiting people

because i'm a retired title pusher

it's actually very funny mopping the floor with people who have like 100-200 more IO than me

[tribal blade]

iirc they're still playing colo

but i'm not sure

[void ocean]

Had to reread to see its O instead of... Well, nvm 😂

[tribal blade]

I DO HAVE LOW IQ

well i think i'm dead average

i'm smart enough to know how dumb i am

[drifting ether]

Shii you are mr title

[void ocean]

Now u sound like Socrates

[tribal blade]

oh are you on my rio haha

[drifting ether]

Ya but i seen a slayer do 21 aa

[tribal blade]

ok maybe i actually have a 150 IQ

(nah)

[tribal blade]

ahhh interesting

[drifting ether]

Bruh im only 3470 i did fuck all pushing, mainly just push that 1 key i get per week and if it drops i just come back next week

[tribal blade]

yeah slayer is a lot more fun to play than colo

[void ocean]

We r sub rogue mains, we r on a spectrum

[tribal blade]

keep at it!

one thing you have to have in order to get anywhere with key pushing is stubborness bordering on mental illness

to never accept defeat

and keep going

[drifting ether]

Aint no body got the patience to sit in que as sub rogue

[tribal blade]

can't tell you how many bricks i've contributed to with horrible gameplay

[drifting ether]

🤣

[tribal blade]

lol fair

well actually

i've done it lol

[drifting ether]

Actually now it might not be as bad when archon updates

[void ocean]

My way of pushing keys is to try to go just a little further than previous season, and that was fun to me so far

[tribal blade]

imagine queueing as sub during DF S2 when they introduced aug

that shit was the worst

[tribal blade]

i think sub will start climbing again

prob not up to outlaw or sin's lvl

[void ocean]

Last season i just got over 3.1k with my warband, and atm im just a lil shy of 3.2k already

[tribal blade]

but closer

[tribal blade]

HUGE

[drifting ether]

Ya with the right comp its good, i feel like we need arms warrior in it or slayer

slayer fury

[void ocean]

I think my warband is 3199 atm

[tribal blade]

the big thing we need is skyfury

[void ocean]

Resi 14 on dk and 14++ on pos for rogue

[drifting ether]

Thats non negotiable, actually mandatory

[void ocean]

I hate having augs in comp

[tribal blade]

i'm a little racist to augs

tbh

because of DF

[drifting ether]

Augs would be fun if you were a dh 🤣

[void ocean]

Every time im like "daaym im pumping"

Then comes the realisation

[tribal blade]

i can't believe we're back to a season where aug is the best dps in the game

[void ocean]

Takes like 3-4 packs

[tribal blade]

feels like dejavu

[void ocean]

I guess theres no mid ground for augs

[tribal blade]

that's a good point

they're either S or F tier

[void ocean]

They will forever be either the best or the worst

[tribal blade]

aug has probably been meta in keys more times than a bunch of other specs combined

[void ocean]

Considering blizz can fuck up regular tuning, imagine how hard is to tune aug

That equation blows up pretty quickly

[rain sentinel]

I am not certain I am understanding the pins/guide correctly about haste. I have Guidon, should I have 700 baseline haste or have 700 haste after Guidon is activated?

[void ocean]

Before

[tribal blade]

baseline

fully buffed

[dusky yacht]

15 windrunner +1 baby lets go

[tribal blade]

WOOOOO

sub rogue numba 1

[dusky yacht]

They said it wasn't meta we said we'll make it meta

[void ocean]

god we will end up nerfed

[tribal blade]

nah no way

trust

[void ocean]

can we sandbag a bit 😄

guys just troll every like 3rd key

[tribal blade]

you should see the numbers other specs are doing in higher keys

it's not even close

[void ocean]

to skewer the statistics a bit

[dusky yacht]

https://giphy.com/gifs/filmeditor-hot-nervous-l4FATJpd4LWgeruTK

[tribal blade]

i'll probably be doing some keys with my guildie tomorrow

and then i can see what the numbers are looking like

but from the few higher keys i've done this week it's been looking much better

[chilly dagger]

Wox, casual still playing outlaw tho

[tribal blade]

yeah for sure

it does more than sub

(which is why sub is not getting nerfed)

[tribal blade]

oh and wox is an outlaw main

he only plays the other 2 specs if it's required or outlaw is not tuned well enough

but if he has the opportunity to play outlaw he'll take it every time

casual is more of a play whatever is the best

[dusky yacht]

Bro I so agree with this

[chilly dagger]

I tried outlaw but im not performing close to what im doing with sub.. so for me im staying sub🤣

[tribal blade]

it's better dps but yeah it's way more plate spinning

[tribal blade]

UwO

[dusky yacht]

[tribal blade]

now that i think about it there has been like 2 times in keys in the past few expacs where sub was hard required

[tight fjord]

wtf is this weekly quest loot

[tribal blade]

1 was last boss of galakrond's fall

the other was last boss of rookery

[cursive tundra]

do you guys have an addon that displays my stats real-time?

[tribal blade]

did you do the pvp quest?

[cursive tundra]

aka even in combat

with consumables/lust/etc

or it's no longer possible

[tribal blade]

i used to have a WA, i've seen some people have that though

but not sure what they're using

[tight fjord]

i'm about to do the pvp quest, in training grounds

[tribal blade]

ah cool

[tight fjord]

and drop like 176 crit

the pvp neck is gonna optimize me

[tribal blade]

if you want a tip for winning those training grounds BGs

i micro managed the teams whenever i was in them

told them not to fight on roads

fight on objectives only

[tight fjord]

lmao

[tribal blade]

because the people in them are horrible

95% of people will actually listen because they want to win

5% will start flaming you because of pride or ego or w/e

[indigo drift]

I wish it applied to random BGs and rated Blitz

[tribal blade]

i was very obnoxious spamming in all caps

[indigo drift]

Cause some of the people there are god awful

[tribal blade]

LOL i used to do it even with random BGs back in the day

it's actually crazy the diff it makes

having 1 person shot call

[indigo drift]

I've tried, I guess people just don't take rogues seriously 😔

[tribal blade]

LOL true

a lot of people play BGs by just dealing with whatever is right in front of them

instead of looking at the big picture

which is what leads to people fight on roads

running off and leaving stuff undefended

[errant pagoda]

i get more invs in 18s keys than in 12s weekly 🙁

[tribal blade]

joining a fight where your side has way more than the enemy

and it's just pointless

[tribal blade]

lol weird

[lilac stag]

The real tip is just running mines only.

[tribal blade]

haha true

[lilac stag]

fighting on “road” is encouraged there

[void ocean]

what do u guys think it terms of 15s and 16s assa vs sub

[lilac stag]

do you want to enjoy yourself or hate yourself?

[vale pine]

subtlety ofc, you asked in the sub chat

[void ocean]

well i see ur point but i survived bleed build from tww s2, and this assa for sure aint worse

[lilac stag]

oh it’s worse

[void ocean]

wdym

i actually do get to fire DM while lust is up on a large pull

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[void ocean]

before i would just tab bleed

for the first 15 sec 😄

[tribal blade]

i found that key range is too low for sin unless your teammates are doing 0 dps

stuff dies too fast to ramp

[void ocean]

even on 15s? i found that to be true for 10-13 range

[lilac stag]

gameplay is just shit as assa. CT going to drain you unless you have Dps doing no dmg

[tribal blade]

for me 15s too low yeah

[void ocean]

daym

[tribal blade]

stuff started living long enough at like ~17

[lilac stag]

and it won’t next week with upgrades

[tribal blade]

but i'm doing keys with my guildie arms warr who is a very good player

he does big dam

[void ocean]

yea figured u guys r just all big pumers

im playing with lfg pugs

[tribal blade]

might be ok then yeah

[void ocean]

mobs there get to se happily ever after

[median latch]

is sub just the better spec rn anyway or what

[lilac stag]

always has been.

[median latch]

it's always been more fun for me at least

but now we also do dam?

lfg

[tribal blade]

yes

i'm able to put up much better numbers this week

[lilac stag]

@void ocean just play whatever you enjoy. You’ll know if you get to a point that you need to swap (you likely won’t). Boss dmg is incredibly good on sub.

[void ocean]

yea i did like 2 keys this week

even tho i forgot to get mastery flask

but i feel dirty when theres a prio big mob and i release dps kill everything that moves and big guy is stil on like 85%

which is a problem assa fix easily

[median latch]

dont we just funnel in that case? or am i new

[void ocean]

oh boi

he said funnel

run

[median latch]

help

[void ocean]

someone hold scath

[median latch]

help i said a thing

[void ocean]

anyways it depends, u can do prio dmg, like out of dance storm into evis

in dance strike into bp

[jade oasis]

atleast sin actually has prio

[void ocean]

but for me that feels more like a work around

than actual rota

[jade oasis]

but sin doesn’t have 1 hr tricks so it’s the worst spec

[void ocean]

that sounds like a tank problem

u dont trick much during dance anyway

[median latch]

thats the way i kinda understood funnel, where i would storm into evis the prio target

but yea idk it doesnt look like i'll be trying sin anytime soon

[tribal blade]

boss dammy is BUSSING on sub

[void ocean]

yea but thats outside of the dance so its 0 dmg

[lilac stag]

We don’t funnel. That’s long since dead

[tribal blade]

thing is melee meta comps have a lot of prio now

arms has a lot of prio

sub has decent prio too

[drifting ether]

Just find someone else with prio and you gucci

[tribal blade]

if your entire group has good enough prio then you kinda don't need sin as much

[lilac stag]

subs prio isn’t even bad. It’s just that, prio. It’s not funnel.

[tribal blade]

yeah sub does good prio

[lilac stag]

people afraid to press strike in higher mob counts.

[lusty narwhal]

if only we had the old shuriken combo from bfa back

[tidal solstice]

just sstorm for FW then sstrike for prio and bp gtg

[tribal blade]

during TWW S2 when i was pushing as sin, THAT was a time where sin's funnel was incredibly valuable

because of specs like ret being in the group

doing 0 prio

[tribal blade]

it wouldn't work with how sub plays now kinda, and also blizz really has it out for that spell

would love to see us get funnel back with banshee's blight

[lilac stag]

and arms ST is abysmal

so better running sub with arms imo

[tribal blade]

yeah sub pairs up well with arms atm

like sin's ST is not bad tbh

i can do decent ST numbers on it in keys

[upbeat cradle]

I just saw a bear facetank the stacking bleed on first pack of AA. Never destacked, his hp never went down, and he bursted for 1M dps on it. That's how the recount was at the end of it

[tribal blade]

but i think sub feels better in that regard

[lilac stag]

I think fury is going to start getting play

[tribal blade]

yeah fury was already not too bad

[lilac stag]

they don’t have the ST drop off

[indigo drift]

You guys playing guidon or puzzlebox in keys?

[lilac stag]

Guidon

[tribal blade]

bear got "nerfed"

[upbeat cradle]

That was a 18 btw

I've seen tanks die to the bleed in lesser keys

But yeah. Nerfed

[quaint breach]

Is bear 2nd tankiest?

[upbeat cradle]

I think they currently are tankier and do more aoe than any other tank

[tribal blade]

i think tankiest goes to brew

which is why it's meta atm

[vale osprey]

You should see the talents they've playing

No apex, full thrash build 🙃

[tribal blade]

lol yea

saw that recently

[upbeat cradle]

I mean, right now, with the new talents, bears are reaaaally tanky

I saw a bear 265ilvl tank a 17 and his hp never really dropped or anything

Not ''new''

[quaint breach]

Bear new pug meta then maybe

[upbeat cradle]

But lots of defensive talents ties to thrash

And weren't used before

And now that thrash has been buffed that much they are used again

[tribal blade]

mmm interesting

NERF BAT

[jade oasis]

yeah i watched

wox do 21 miasara

they kill prio targets quick

[tribal blade]

yeah feels like funnel specs not really super required with everyone doing enough prio now

which is probably a healthier place for this game to be in

[dusky yacht]

Like overall I'm kinda happy with how stuff is turning out

They got a lot to work on but it does look like they're tryna fix shit

[hazy breach]

They mostly just shifted them from being insanely OP on ST damage to being very strong on aoe padd

But yeah very big asterisks on "nerfed"

[tribal blade]

haha damn

[hazy breach]

Like on beloren when rwf did it

[tribal blade]

i have a MW friend who is probably gonna be very happy about this happening

yeah bear's burst was fucking insane on the egg

[hazy breach]

Bear was doing more than like 5+ dpsers depending on procs

[tribal blade]

yeah

not sending their apex on pull

[hazy breach]

And it soloed one of the sets of adds on lura

[tribal blade]

then puzzle+incarn+apex

SHEEEESH

[tribal blade]

that's fucking crazy

[hazy breach]

or well

"soloed"

[tribal blade]

OH YEAH liquid swapped out bear last second

[hazy breach]

It did a lot of damage to it

[tribal blade]

nice

iirc yips swapped to bear

[hazy breach]

Enough so that they could stop holding some other cds for it

ye

[tribal blade]

that's pretty huge

my GM is a bear main

he's been loving this tier

[tribal blade]

are you pushing this season?

[hazy breach]

A bit ye

[tribal blade]

nice

[hazy breach]

Havent done any 20s yet

But missing 1 19

[tribal blade]

i'm sure you'll be doing 21s in no time

[hazy breach]

But i didnt really raid so my gear is stinky

[tribal blade]

ahhh that blows

[hazy breach]

(guild died)

[tribal blade]

DAMN

that's tragic

at least good thing is sub's big required pieces are quite easy to get from raid

chim and averzian

pretty chill

[hazy breach]

Yep

[keen dome]

And an easy dagger from vora

[hazy breach]

I would really like the neck from alleria to be able to play deathstalker without wasting tons of crests crafting engi boots

But it doesnt drop from hc (for me) and i refuse to bonus roll, im sure we ill kill it on mythic eventually

[tribal blade]

yeah bonus rolling on heroic is pretty cringe

not sure if i would do that

[tribal blade]

the nerfs to alleria were quite significant

[hazy breach]

or well, my gear is fine, but because of no big raid items im just low ilvl

[tribal blade]

my guild had no problem meeting the dps check with almost the entire guild gray parsing

[hazy breach]

and cant upgrade

[tribal blade]

yeah i had the same issue

i've gotten very few pieces of gear from raid

have one of the lowest loot scores on my raid team

so naturally that means i'm behind on free myth crest upgrades from raid

[paper trail]

Thoughts on DS vs trickster atm?

[hazy breach]

DS better pure ST

Trickster for mostly anything else

[paper trail]

I was thinking on DS for lura, not sure if worth

[hazy breach]

If you have the haste for it should be worth

[paper trail]

Ye i have to check when home, its 1.1k right

Even Bird it might be worth tbh

[tepid trellis]

my guild does alot of 6/6 runs and probs even some belo'ren runs soon, i could probs give a good word to help you get into those runs if needs be

[tribal blade]

i should give DS a shot, i have the haste for it

[tribal blade]

what a homie

[paper trail]

How is the burst differense? Sry Havnt touched rogue since DF

[hazy breach]

Thanks for the offer but most of previous guildies/friends of friends are done with prog now so our scuffed unc runs weve been doing should be able to get it down pretty soon

[tight fjord]

that neck has to be better than most myth options this season

[hazy breach]

It is a very solid neck yes

[tight fjord]

1/4 of a puzzlebox all the time

[hazy breach]

You can do it again bots too btw, no need to actually pvp

[tight fjord]

yea killing bots

[tepid trellis]

gods speed

[hazy breach]

Weve had like no healers, but now 2 people we know are done with prog so their alts can come

[hazy breach]

Best part about pushing this season is that theres a lot of stuff that ignores cloak

And im learning it the hard way

[tribal blade]

LOL yup

got killed by the smash from the big mob after 1st boss in caverns

and was pretty pissed

[hazy breach]

Apparently 1s of cloak works on that

[tribal blade]

died>looked at cloak on cd

[tribal blade]

it does yeah

but unfortunately i popped it and got hit ~3 secs into cloak

[alpine wraith]

the 1 sec cloak might have killed so many people

because it worked once randomly

then they get confident

[tribal blade]

wondering when cloak will go back down to 1 min cd 🙂

hahaha yea

[alpine wraith]

or when prep back

it got stolen

[tribal blade]

TRUE

[hazy breach]

Or cheat back to 1 min

(that shit is never happening)

[tribal blade]

ok that's just crazy haha

can you imagine

how hard required rogue would be in raid

[alpine wraith]

wasnt it 2 mins at most

[tribal blade]

maybe that would be our raid buff

i honestly don't remember, might have been 2

[cursive tundra]

any way to automate this gossip?

i tried with EQoL

yet it doesn't work

[steel zinc]

w00t. Your a great rogue and gamer sure you will find something again in the top 100

[random mason]

You can do it with eqol

[steel zinc]

eqol does it

[cursive tundra]

how?

i even added it manually and it just won't do it

[upbeat cradle]

Oh yeah for a moment i thought that green smash was physical because it hit me

[tribal blade]

it's shadowstrike dmg

not sure if that means it's both phys and magic

[hazy breach]

It does

[tribal blade]

cool

[hazy breach]

But yeah, idk 1s cloak works

[tribal blade]

yeah that's frustrating

[hazy breach]

Theres also a bunch of shadow damage that ignores it

Like the big voidwalkers in seat

Their huge aoe just ignores cloak too

[tribal blade]

mmmm i haven't done enough seats to notice that yet

good to know

[hazy breach]

Same as ticking damage on last boss

[upbeat cradle]

Yeah

[hazy breach]

(and the beams are sonic damage)

[tribal blade]

WHAT ok that's crazy lol