#subtlety

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strange chasm
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Yeah figured as much lmao

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I saw the warlock and was like I wonder if the rogue was doing the same

twin quartz
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anyone know of a way to display a trinket next to or inside the cooldown manager?

twin quartz
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yeah, i think thats what im gonna end up doing

dry plank
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It does not track stacks of prism for example

velvet hawk
keen dome
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Happy NuSub day to those who celebrated it. May we enjoy the Shadowstrikes and the purple.

daring raptor
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anyone know how to add an extra bar for cooldown manger

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saw a streamer have that

vale pine
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probably an addon

daring raptor
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yeah just haven't found it. so was hoping someone in here know which one can do that

pure lily
daring raptor
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Whcich are not locked behind a paywall which quazzi ui is

keen dome
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Why do things default into german so often in WoW...

rose trout
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Dumb question, but is there a way I can make my extra action bars swap when in stealth? I know the normal one does but the way I have my bars set up having the other 2 I added swap would be ideal

keen dome
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I am annoyed I cannot put their damage meter right up against the edge of my screen and there has to be a 'gap'

azure ember
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so are we just running these 2 talents for fun in ST?

tribal blade
vale pine
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you can change it to utility

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but most fights have some sort of adds

chrome palm
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Also in midnight s1 there is no β€œst”

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Maybe last boss?

vale pine
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possible

chrome palm
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And possibly the delve boss

minor trout
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
azure ember
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what bosses are we playing DS? or we just playing fatebound?

vale pine
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probably all of them

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ds is just a lot better on st

tender dust
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I already mis the midnight channels

vale pine
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this channel is pmuch the midnight channel now

tender dust
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Haha yeah was memeing

haughty rose
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!ui

wicked joltBOT
haughty rose
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any premade UI's for sub out already? i really only need to see my CP under my character model and the duration of dance and blades

keen dome
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I'm very annoyed they broke the personal resource display for no reason..

alpine wraith
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i will make mine after work

haughty rose
upper plinth
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Is DS also the play on dimi or stay trickster cause wonky mark?

vale pine
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there are quite some people releasing CDM import strings, i listed my personal setup on wowhead and one of the streamer setups, there is luxtros too, and i assume many more, links:

vestal escarp
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Installing fresh gladge

keen dome
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Nice

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I like their name plate and bossmods so far. Lots of options and flexibility for showing what you want.

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Angry about the personal resource display.

tulip light
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are basic bag and cast bar addons also not working anymore?

west tide
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is recrafting broken for u guys

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cant sent guild orders

keen dome
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It seems like it imight be

red vortex
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its pre patch garf_sit

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everything is broken

vale pine
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yep

red vortex
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just wanna make my ui

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and wait for bugfixes

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and we good

keen dome
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I hate the amount of padding on some of their UI elements. Like their DPS meter

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The functionality is fine, but the UI itself is annoying to make clean and tidy

vale pine
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you can just use deatils

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it reskins the default

keen dome
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Yep, already swapped back to it haha

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Just so I can make the UI tidy

vale pine
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what are people using for energy/cp?

keen dome
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I wanted to use the PRD but Blizz have MURDERED IT so I might look into making my own. I just want a single clean bar that anchors to the PRD spot..

red vortex
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or smthing

vale pine
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think he uses this

west tide
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not badd

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only problem is idk how to track my trinkets

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lmao

keen dome
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I'd been wondering that too haha

vale pine
plain cradle
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Was it arc ui that let you track trinkets ?

vale pine
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think the nameplates of enemies don't work well with resolution scale

stoic pawn
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uhm, guys, is the reshi cloak bugged? got yesterday, upgraded 15/15 and ilvl is shit, tried deleting it, etc. nothing works

red vortex
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Stat squish

stoic pawn
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no, compared to others mine is 30 ilvl less

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I know stat squish

vale pine
stoic pawn
keen dome
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I hope they let us change bar growth, etc. I want my Shadow bar icon at the bottom and the bar to shrink down..

stoic pawn
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lol

scarlet heath
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where is my precious midnight sub... is he alright?

alpine wraith
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it died

west tide
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ok i got to 31% haste and now its not worth double the other stats

keen dome
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nice, you fast

zenith mirage
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i mean u wanna go haste to reach 19.5-20sec sec tech to lineup and then the stat is dead right?

keen dome
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Also I have 24% speed. I had 12% before pre-patch. I've doubled speed.

zenith mirage
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by the looks of it

west tide
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my sec tech is at 19 rn

zenith mirage
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yh the only way haste would be worth it past that point would be if it grants u 1 more finisher in dance from deepening shadows but is that even reachable

haughty rose
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is anyone elses default personal resource bar not working? as well as DR

west tide
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!fuu

wicked joltBOT
vale pine
keen dome
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Oh shit. We should take a moment to remember Shadowheart. Shadowheart 2025 - 2026. You will not be missed.

west tide
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thank youu

keen dome
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Nah, Goremaw's has dirt on someone.

west tide
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good thing is with lower damage numebrs seems like sims awre way faster for big iterations lol

keen dome
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I'm a huge fan of smaller numbers. THey're just nicer for me brain

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The cooldown manager is pretty nice. Just some more customisation and I'd never use anytihng else. I think my only real major complaints right now are the Personal Resource Display and the padding on some frames (like their DPS meter)

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but since we can reskin everything hell yeah

vale pine
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i installed betterblizzframes and betterblizzplates

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lets see if these addons are good, someone suggested them to me before the patch

keen dome
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I'll check them out

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I really like their bossmod system. It feels like a great first step.

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Although I worry the bar with icons is just going to be too much noise without context

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'Cos a big thing of Bigwigs was someone curating or properly identifying critical mechanics, which most players aren't great at. But it's still great to see a baseline system like this

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I've not got time to re-do my talents and read stuff, but I am enjoying the remains of rupture lingering in my bars:

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Rest well, bad rotational maintnence button.

west tide
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the muscle memory lmao

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at first iw as stil trying to aply rupture and pressin my symbols button lmao

keen dome
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Weirdly Flag is just gone but I assume the difference is that Rupture exists, whereas Flag is straight up deleted from the game.

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(Or the talent version of flag anyway)

sour horizon
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holy shit boys, having no interupt while healing is PAINFUL

vale pine
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i feel overwhelmed

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idk why

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too much settings

keen dome
keen dome
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But I do value that level of granular modulairt

sour horizon
vale pine
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i am tempted

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to start writing a interface addon

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XD

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but its too much work

sour horizon
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ends up doubling the options of BetterBlizzFrames

vale pine
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this might be better

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without all the install/setup stuff

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i will actually test some addons now

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sensai ressource bar is not my liking

keen dome
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Which is why I made my own WA's 'cos I wanted it my way haha

humble rover
vale pine
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its a unit frame addon

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so don't think so

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but you can just use dominos or bartender

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i actually want to hide my action bar too ^^

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so i need to see

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i am in this with you, i tested on beta without addons

keen dome
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Can probably still do it with cvar?

vale pine
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you can hide any bar thats not the default in the base ui

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but i want to hide the default one too

keen dome
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Aaah

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Right

vale pine
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i also might move back to curseforge from wowup

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because wowup is a pita to use

keen dome
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It has a curseforge version now

humble rover
vale pine
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this one i can recommend

keen dome
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That looks pretty nice. WIll give it a go

vale pine
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adds the ressource and cp on top

keen dome
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Very nice

fossil forge
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Hello lads

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wat would be ideal haste% for raid

red vortex
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I want cds on top utility down

vale pine
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ye

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its a bit barebones

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but its good for first

tribal blade
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i tried setting it up and just gave up

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i feel like alot of the addon people aren't very good at UX design haha

jolly sleet
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i'm using orbit which expands on edit mode and adds a cool features without much setting hassle

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looks like that with a single addon

vale pine
tribal blade
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and fixing

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my guild had an addon creator and even after he quit playing he would log back in every patch to upkeep the addon

red vortex
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I will just create an addon

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That recreates my wa pack

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To the most it can

graceful perch
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Have you guys checked out Nephui? Its rly goos too

tribal blade
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i tried setting up neph on the beta but it did some really weird things for me

short radish
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theyre probably both made in chatgpt or something

tribal blade
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yeah my RL posted this for us

red vortex
chrome palm
tribal blade
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nephui "risk of being vibe-coded"

chrome palm
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a lot of CDM addons basically copied a lot of his code

red vortex
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Nothing wrong with vibe coders

chrome palm
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so he doesnt mind doing the same

tribal blade
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this is drama i didn't know existed

chrome palm
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yeah the addon drama is crazy man

tribal blade
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do they make significant amounts of money or something

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holy shit

chrome palm
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no

tribal blade
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weird then lol

graceful perch
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Non sense tbh. I just want a clean Ui and nephui did a good Job atleast.

tribal blade
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it was completely borked on the beta for me so i just gave up trying to make it work

sly shore
chrome palm
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i tried setting up arcui but it gave me an aneurysm

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might be the worst gui ive ever interacted with for an addon

vale pine
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i don't know any other weakaura setup which overlayed the duration when a buff is active

tribal blade
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yeah it drives me insane when addon creators think you need a degree in nuclear fission to operate their addon

chrome palm
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luxthos did

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if you mean overlaying aua buff on the cd when its active

vale pine
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ahh

tribal blade
vale pine
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did not know

sly shore
vale pine
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ye mapko's addon is also rly good

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i tried it

steel zinc
sly shore
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the copy frame setting is great

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saves a lot of time

steel zinc
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yeah you can copy anything to everywhere

alpine wraith
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big

steel zinc
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also presets for plug and play

chrome palm
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ill try this out, but if i dont like it ill hold a grudge against mapko for an eternity

steel zinc
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I remade atrocity and some other stuff

tender zenith
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Are we actually a 5 spec class now?

steel zinc
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so plug and play

sly shore
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more like 4

steel zinc
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yeah really fantastic 4

sly shore
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both deathstalker and trickster play identically

tender zenith
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Thats crazy

sly shore
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in aoe and single target

tender zenith
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It feels awful

chrome palm
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wym 5 spec class

sly shore
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press button > get buff (coup or darkest night) > spend buff > repeat

chrome palm
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outlaw -- assassination, what other three am i missing

tender zenith
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It feels like a cheap mmo's version of a class

sly shore
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and yet it will be played

tribal blade
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we are missing the apex atm

sly shore
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because it's fucking BLASTING

tribal blade
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but yeah

sly shore
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I actually think

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I have ticking sack of terror already

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and screams

chrome palm
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even with apex

sly shore
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and hast egear

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I'm fucking stacked

chrome palm
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theres no depth here

tribal blade
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yeah not much

chrome palm
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almost no thinking required outside of playing the fight

tender zenith
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Idk pressing evis is pretty hard to do

chrome palm
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very few buttons, very few things to track

tender zenith
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very smooth brained now

red vortex
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smooth brain = better mechanics

alpine wraith
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only diff on trickster and DS

tender zenith
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Bro its a bullet proof spec only 4 button mean bigger tune number

alpine wraith
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is you can ignore DN for maximum damage in aoe

pastel rampart
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whats dn

alpine wraith
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but if you want a bit more prio you can use evis on DN

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darkest night

pastel rampart
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zzzzzzz

chrome palm
pastel rampart
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u disappoint me hacha

alpine wraith
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ahaha

red vortex
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thats only rogue angle

chrome palm
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huntard is now subtard 😭 it might be over for us in midnight bros

red vortex
steel zinc
red vortex
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only outlaw needs crosshair

tribal blade
vale pine
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and, i broke my addons

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lol

red vortex
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What

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How

vale pine
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i set better cooldown manager

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to show the power bar on the opposite, so bottom instead of top

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and now it does not show it at all

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and i can't even open the pannel

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XD

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i guess i need to delete the wtf config

tribal blade
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so this is the issue i was having with nephui on the beta, tried changing things and it completely stopped working

karmic zenith
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Anyone else encountering issues where deathstalker's mark refuses to apply? Had it happen twice now and the only fix seems to be relogging.

vale pine
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it can bug out

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if it does, it needs to run out on the target

wispy zephyr
karmic zenith
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The duration is only a minute isn't it? I think this was a good 20 minutes or so.

vale pine
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i just used "reset default"

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and it worked

red vortex
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yea u need to relog

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for it to be fixed

rustic mortar
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!sheet

wicked joltBOT
tribal blade
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i'm reading up on outlaw right now

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if it's as good as i hear i might have to check it out

hexed basalt
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if I have both crafted rings and neck would be ok go follow overall bis list? or wouldn't work since those item values are like 2000 haste and 10.000 vers for example (old values)

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instead of crafted stats that are both equal

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because I guess sims now gotta be taken with a grain of salt

twin surge
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is upgrading gear broken or something? it's trying to use gilded crest for me when the cost shows as 0.

tribal blade
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i try to stay away from outlaw because playing it with 200 ms is horrendous, but if its at least simpler might be doable

vale pine
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^^
(it might be nameplate settings and not the addon, but damn)

keen dome
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Lmao, amazing

vale pine
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it seems like its not platynator's entire fault

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default plates also cause a bit of lag

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betterblizz is a pain to configure, but they don't cause them, so i guess i use these for the meantime

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demodal is broken, mhm

upbeat garden
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I keep getting 14 stored points

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is it a bug?

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They are not getting consumed or something

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only by backstab and shadowstrike

vale pine
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you can stack sht up to 14

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not a bug

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they only get consumed when you use a builder currently

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the finisher consumption moved to apex talents

plush roost
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Im ngl man sec tec not applying fazed rn is one of the worst feeling things ever

upbeat garden
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Oh okay

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yes...

plush roost
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Just -5% aoe damage zzz

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Cant easily swap coup targets

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Grrr

tribal blade
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no more fazed conditional

plush roost
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Well i will tell ya from my beta gameplay that id faaaake news lmao

tribal blade
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oh is it stil there

alpine wraith
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fake news as always

tribal blade
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that's CRAZY

plush roost
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Maybe its a live thing only but on beta id start a pack and coup and get zero stacks and wanna jump off a bridge

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Since storm randomly applies unseen to a random target

tribal blade
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ok no wonder i did such low dam on soul hunters

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shoulda just played DS for that

sly shore
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just play ds the entire time in raid tbh

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no point not

tribal blade
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thought i'd be smart swapping to trickster

plush roost
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Well i also think rogue is just weak in prepatch so maybe its just #roguethings

steep raven
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Do you hold SD+ST in this situation? Or send and hold SB for next SD+ST?

tribal blade
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i guess IM THE FOOL

sly shore
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it's most definitely not

tribal blade
plush roost
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Idk i was playing with bansh on survival and i was about 20k dps down overall

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Maybe survival op

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Beat the DH

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Maybe dh is weak

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Idk whst the aversges are

clever delta
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Anyone tried antrocity ui for rogue yet? Or anything else which feel nice? @tepid trellis hope you dont mind ping

tribal blade
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i'm trying not to worry about prepatch numbers

hazy breach
clever delta
tribal blade
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we're missing so much kit

clever delta
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I just need some ui

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That's all πŸ˜„

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Will turn off meters

sly shore
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rogue damage isn't bad

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especially in raid

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bosses die perfecvtly for cd's kekl

alpine wraith
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does mark krangle in some way in nexus king or dimensius

sly shore
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who knows not I

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just end p1 with darkest night up

azure thicket
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does the shadowcraft refund noise still work?

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just asking for a friend

alpine wraith
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refund is dead on shadowcraft

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it will work with apex

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on expansion

azure thicket
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that's fair, how's deathstalker?

tribal blade
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yo is danger sense kinda good

alpine wraith
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rng but can become poggers

tribal blade
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i think esp on rot fights

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it's really good

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which is where rogue has historically been bad

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where tf was this talent when i was pushing during DF

alpine wraith
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getting the bleed in the gnoll dungeon

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goodbye world

tribal blade
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lol yeah

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or the frost bitch in halls

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or worm in NL

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healers having to babysit us

azure thicket
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oh and we're down talent points compared to midnight level cap right?

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so no shiv or graceful guile etc?

alpine wraith
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maybe they didnt put that talent on

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as it is not recommended

woeful wren
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Idk ds feels rly nice which is all I wanted. Need to test in m+ tho

tribal blade
hazy breach
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Yes i updated it in the faq. Fuu forgot to check the utility points

woeful wren
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It’s Gna feel weird not rupturing stuff tho

azure thicket
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i finally put shuri toss on my bars

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feels like maybe dropping shadowrunner for airborne irritant might be a play

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the extra movespeed during dance isn't a big deal imo only benefitted shroud of concealment group sprints i think?

vale pine
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let me check

hazy breach
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It doesnt have the 2x feint one talented

vale pine
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oh, ye, you can absolutely change utility talents

woeful wren
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btw aoe blind is just gone now right?

hazy breach
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Still works

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But should be gone yes

woeful wren
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so we just have no aoe stop now

azure thicket
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it still works just blinded 3 dummies

hazy breach
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Yes, it still works

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But it shouldnt

narrow shadow
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How's Bugtlely feeling in prepatch?

azure thicket
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gouge monkaW

tribal blade
slate lantern
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They will surely tune us higher across the board so we fill a niche with our limited utility right yeppers

woeful wren
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I mean my hope is that we can play DS and prio/funnel monster it up

azure thicket
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midnight beta ranks from a friend

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ye was kind of tired of inviting marksmen hunters

slate lantern
woeful wren
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Kinda similar to DH function last season ig but better ST without funnel

hazy breach
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Just wait until you wipe and get the bug where you cant reapply the mark

hazy breach
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Dw you can relogg and its fixed

narrow shadow
alpine wraith
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that one is cool or the one that stays phantomly 60 secs

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wow wants you to get a fast ssd

alpine wraith
azure thicket
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out to lunch probably, still gotta do bars but most of sub clean up is done

chrome palm
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I never encountered this, is there some special condition we know about

hazy breach
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Maybe they fixed it, but it was similar to the "paladin boss bubble" bug

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Maybe its if you vanish and reset? Or its just fixed

vale hull
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can clones spawn?

hazy breach
tribal blade
chrome palm
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The dn change

tribal blade
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you'll just do no dmg because the entire hero tree won't be active smile

vale hull
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i never saw any shadow clones spawn

hazy breach
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I mean for deathstalker you just skip the utility nodes

alpine wraith
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yea there is a funny thing

torn tide
alpine wraith
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we dont have apex rn

chrome palm
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Idk why they are obsessed with making their job harder for themselves with changes like this

hazy breach
alpine wraith
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so some talents are not as good

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but still decent iirc

narrow shadow
alpine wraith
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cant talent into them in prepatch

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likely where he was playing

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unless it was beta then he was sily

chrome palm
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You can talent into weapon master and tornado

narrow shadow
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Or am I wrong?

alpine wraith
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ah yea those work

haughty mural
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they are also not that visible

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like sectech clones

alpine wraith
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also iirc someone said that you need graphic settings a bit up there

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i was seeing them in beta

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they were like purple

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can dm a clip to not advertise here

narrow shadow
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There are 2 talents that spawn clones in prepatch, they are just not in the recommended builds.

haughty mural
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but its not like they are giga noticable ? or did they up them ?

alpine wraith
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of how they work kinda

narrow shadow
swift tinsel
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They upped the visibility

vale hull
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yes im talented shuriken storm has a chance to spawn a clone

swift tinsel
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But you need graphic settings up

vale hull
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either its very rare either i dont see them

haughty mural
narrow shadow
haughty mural
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i'll see this evening

narrow shadow
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Spam it for a minute on dummies and see if you get some

upper cosmos
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has anyone been able to place a crafting order? I keep getting error message

tribal blade
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iirc

swift tinsel
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I am a bit annoyed they didn’t fix any of the major bugs, but not entirely surprised

narrow shadow
civic lava
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Quick question , as it's established in the FAQ that we now have breakpoints in haste. Is it still valuable to put haste if we don't get 35% ? As i understand 35% let us have one more global into shadowdance. Basicaly i'm asking if haste is still valuable in ST under 35% ?

swift tinsel
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W shit

alpine wraith
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they appear to my left sometimes when apex procs

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or wm

placid elk
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WTF is this man i dont have energy to do 3 abilities in a dance window

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i do dance sec tech shadow strike go to bed

chrome palm
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Yeah

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Maybe pool a bit first

wheat lake
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ngl I feel naked right now

swift tinsel
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Turns out not having apex slows things down

alpine wraith
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also remember to use symbols

swift tinsel
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Almost like the spec is incomplete

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Like most spec in prepatch

haughty mural
alpine wraith
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you would be surprised

swift tinsel
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Ngl deleting a bunch of flag/rupture macros felt great

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Though rupture and sod still in CDM lol

alpine wraith
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maybe i do a timelapme of me fixing my ui later today

chrome palm
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I mean you play outlaw and it feels more complete than sub rn

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Outlaw with no apex is far more complete than sub with apex

swift tinsel
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Well yeah

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Bc their apex isn’t as core to their resource economy

haughty mural
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they'll be a lot of holes in my bars

chrome palm
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Without apex sub is like an all time low

chrome palm
haughty mural
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i mean we knew that this would be the case as soon as they moved half of shadowcraft into the apex

chrome palm
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Even with apex you kinda pool a tiny bit or at least I did

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No reason for master of shadows to not be instant energy instead of over time

alpine wraith
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it is more than our apex is like feeding off itself and shadowcraft in dances

chrome palm
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It’s bugged with shadowcraft, no?

alpine wraith
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so not having it kinda ramps us down

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yea but in theory

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i guess the designer made cool things

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but the implementation was ehehe

chrome palm
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Well they might be more inclined to tune things around how they are rather than how they ought to be

torn tide
hazy breach
solemn lance
#

Is there anyway to play a sound when you hit a certain number of combo points now? I used to do it with weakauras

hazy breach
#

Nop

solemn lance
#

Dang

plain jay
#

like is this it with sub.. stab, evis, dance, sectec.. i was bored to tears in reclear last night

left ledge
#

yes

plain jay
#

sadge

severe linden
#

But ya that’s it

brisk onyx
#

Previously, you were only pressing rupture every 20 seconds or so, and symbol during each dance. Why is it boring now?

severe linden
#

Less buttons == boring

azure thicket
#

pumping out 20-50m damage required the player to multi task

brisk onyx
severe linden
#

Both my mains got wrecked lol

brisk onyx
#

I respect your opinion.

severe linden
#

Feral is also just as simple

dreamy root
#

u mean u dont like classic wow rotations omegalul

gilded ferry
#

last night i tried the sub spec after a while

azure thicket
#

care halkias swirlie, drop sod/flag start pumping as the groundskeppers run it

gilded ferry
#

is there something else coming with midnight?

azure thicket
#

40-50m dollars

gilded ferry
#

or is the energy starved gameplay intended?

tribal blade
#

you will have more energy in midnight

plain jay
#

will have more haste, more regen

azure thicket
#

in retrospect are we supposed to evis or bp on those boss funnels?

tribal blade
#

also if you didn't get like ~35% haste right now on sub you're gonna be feeling pretty bad

azure thicket
#

i always evis'd but was never sure

brisk onyx
tribal blade
#

on the beta you can fill almost every gcd

#

with like 20% haste

brisk onyx
#

im 15~20% and its fine

violet palm
#

I do not understand. Am I at 35 or 30%?

brisk onyx
#

This pre-patch seems a bit silly because it lacks apex, especially for the sub.

tribal blade
swift tinsel
#

Imma be voidmanning prepatch anyways

upper cosmos
#

I'm stuck at 9% haste rn cause I can't place any work orders

queen plinth
#

so how does sub feel?

violet palm
#

So I do need more haste then

brisk onyx
swift tinsel
#

Felt mostly fine for me last night

severe linden
#

It’s subjective but I like it

#

Also really like outlaw

sharp sapphire
#

is coup de grace bugged atm? i dont get flawless form stacks

hazy breach
#

Thats why theyre different

swift tinsel
hazy breach
#

But you can just sim yourself

sharp sapphire
#

any

queen plinth
#

do i need more haste now to play sub? or can i play prepatch with my old gear

#

i mean is it unplayable with ahse

placid blade
#

man my 1% haste before patch really hurting me

swift tinsel
#

You don’t need lots of haste

wild hornet
#

Is the new opener identical to the tww one just without the missing buttons

swift tinsel
#

It’s nice to have 30-35% but the spec still functions with like 15%

hazy breach
swift tinsel
#

But if you’re trying it with like 1-2% it’s obv gonna feel rough

fallow nimbus
#

Is it 30-35 + alacrity?

hazy breach
#

But flawless form is capped at 5 also

brisk onyx
hazy breach
#

They removed it from the tooltip yes

brisk onyx
hazy breach
#

Just like they removed blind being aoe from the tooltip

brisk onyx
sharp sapphire
#

yeha does not mention it in tooltip

brisk onyx
#

funny

tribal blade
#

now if you land from flying on dimmy with full cps what do you do

#

no FW up

#

dance and sectec ready

#

full cps

hazy breach
#

sectech?

#

Or what

tribal blade
#

just send a natty evis then dance?

swift tinsel
#

SnD

hazy breach
#

Just go

tribal blade
#

k cool

#

thought having FW up might have been a thing

swift tinsel
#

BP while flying through the air

hazy breach
#

Not very relevant for sectech

tribal blade
torn tide
#

wait does sub have a passive that makes u get SnD like how assassination has cut to the chase?

brisk onyx
#

So, is blind still an aoe effect? I saw someone say it can no longer be used for aoe (my server isn't even live yet).

swift tinsel
#

Yes

haughty mural
#

just sectech

swift tinsel
#

All specs have cut to the chase

hazy breach
#

Ig if you send immediately youll run out of juice before adds spawn

tribal blade
#

ok i thought since you have more finisher dmg with FW up

#

or the strike after secetc does it i guess

hazy breach
#

Ig it might be worth to land with no cp as half of your sectech will be without that

haughty mural
#

my bad

tribal blade
#

yeah FW kinda crazy buff now

haughty mural
#

as it should be imo

swift tinsel
#

That’s why I’m tellin ya flying SnD to spend CP before you land on dimmy

tribal blade
#

well crazy is a strong word

#

but def stronger

haughty mural
#

gotcha

tribal blade
#

you could just fuck the CPs you have

#

and strike>sectec

#

either way dimmy is dying so fast

#

i think heroic raiders can kill dimmy now

#

probably

#

so long as you can do some dmg

jolly vector
#

anyone else having problem with tracking smoke bomb for sub spec in the cooldown manager?

keen dome
#

I miss smoke bomb

jolly vector
#

?

tribal blade
#

we don't have smokebomb in PVE

keen dome
tribal blade
#

it's a pvp talent

tribal blade
keen dome
tribal blade
#

ok yeah nvm

#

i don't think most heroic raiders are killing dimmy

fallow nimbus
#

Heroic pugs end after fractillus

tribal blade
#

yeah doing nexus king is very different

keen dome
#

Yeah, but that's not 'cos of Dimmy

#

Nexus King requires a proper raid lead to setup and explain the proper way to do it and 99% of people in a heroic pug won't bother

tribal blade
#

if you can't push nexus king fast you're gonna have a really bad time

swift tinsel
#

Last phase nexus king sounds fun in a pug

keen dome
#

It's extremely easy but one person can wipe the entire group on heroic

tribal blade
#

we pushed nexus king like it was on heroic today

#

was crazy

#

completely skipped platforms

#

only needed to do 1 image in P1

keen dome
#

I gotta setup UI and organize my talents.. urgh

swift tinsel
#

I need Opie to have a compatible version so I can take mounts off my bars

#

Feels icky lol

keen dome
#

Haha

#

My biggest complaint right now is not being able to properly align stuff neatly due to padding.

lilac stag
#

We did achieve run yesterday. 4th wall Fract was hard mode

swift tinsel
#

Yeah, I def needed an addon to fix padding/placement and text stuff

#

Am pretty content with my UI and thankful I did more heavy lifting with it before release

#

Might give Unhalted a try after work tonight

cedar willow
#

hey dudes, do we backstab to get more out of danse macabre

#

or is this a thing of the past?

swift tinsel
#

Nope

old lynx
#

For the pre patch are the changes to sub made live?

cedar willow
#

so there really is very little to optize right now

swift tinsel
#

At the moment

#

Optimizations can come out of the woodwork pretty much at any time

#

So it’s definitely possible more are found

haughty mural
#

on the rise

lilac stag
#

SoonTM

dreamy root
lilac stag
#

wowhead guide?

#

idk what you’re looking for but most TCs aren’t going to give a shit about prepatch.

tribal blade
haughty mural
#

they kinda abandoned their spec in their channel last time i checked in over there

tribal blade
#

am i cooking

haughty mural
#

and it has a 100% chance to spawn a clown

tribal blade
#

tight

#

just make it a mega button

keen dome
#

no, we put goremaw where it deserves

#

in the fucking bin

tribal blade
#

hey make goremaw's cool enough it'll be good πŸ˜‰

#

remember when sectec was a garbage button

#

that did nothing

short aurora
#

!wa

wicked joltBOT
#

Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.

short aurora
haughty mural
#

what having numbers does to a button, right ?

tribal blade
#

yeah big numbers

tropic pier
#

heh we are back to shadow dance + ability macros

#

circle back to 2017

haughty mural
tropic pier
haughty mural
#

i mean i guess

placid elk
#

rogue is harder to play in tbc

swift tinsel
#

Good thing tbc anniversary dropped

vestal escarp
#

Welcome back regular channel

woeful wren
#

uh is any1 else getting stuck in stealth bar after dance ends?

sacred gull
#

better to start dance with shadow strike or a finisher ?

keen dome
#

Gloomblade, someday it will be your day..

chrome palm
#

see:

#

its the same principle here

#

i think i had 4-5 dance macros

tribal blade
#

i had a few macros for casting blades with sectec and trinkets

keen dome
#

I don't know what to put where Rupture was on my bars

haughty mural
#

same

#

since its still there when i spec to assa

keen dome
#

Yeah

#

I always had it on 2 where I put mainitnence DoT buttons on classes

#

Maybe I put SecTec there now??

placid elk
#

yeah i moved sectech to rupture now i just got to break muscle memory of pressing it as 2nd global on pull

severe linden
#

The soec is really simple now it needs aura buffs though dmg is low

upbeat garden
#

My settings keep getting resetted ... bruh

jolly wave
#

Feral player here kind of funny seeing the exact similar reactions to the dreamgrove feral channel. Picking up sub because of what they did to feral lol

knotty depot
severe linden
#

It is fine lol

#

It’s just too simple for the feral channel

swift tinsel
#

and its 5 which is a solid bind

keen dome
#

The scary man button

swift tinsel
#

that's gotta stay R for me lol

sacred gull
#

my rupture was on A, I feel like I have to rethink everything now πŸ™

swift tinsel
#

Shift-R might be my cancelaura Ancient Arts macro

keen dome
#

R is Dance for me, haha

swift tinsel
#

3 is my dance lol

keen dome
#

Ctrl+R used to be Symbols. Ctrl+Mousewheel up for blades, down for flag.

swift tinsel
#

blades is where sod was at Q now

keen dome
#

I'm sinister so my ability to hit some keybinds is limited

swift tinsel
#

I had flag on G which was my old SnD bind which might go back to its home

#

lol same but I use a typical right hand mouse setup

#

they tried to train it out of me haha

keen dome
#

Haha

#

I refuse to give in

#

I need to go through all three specs, I guess. Try to unify all my buttons to be 'similar' but urgh

vestal escarp
keen dome
#

I'm a librarian, I'm not made of cool mouse money!

swift tinsel
keen dome
#

Yeah it owns. I'm not a Librarian librarian, my offcial title is Library Resouces Officer but I'm a librarian haha

haughty mural
#

thats kinda cool ngl

keen dome
#

It's real good. Local goverment nonsense, working in a quiet and calm place with books and helping people. Not chasing budgets or deadlines, etc.

#

It's actually a really full on and pretty hectic job, no one day the same, and constantly juggling plates though. It's a ton of fun and alway sengagin

cinder marten
#

can someone explain how to use the shadow dance + secret technique macro, from what i read we are meant to use shadow dance when we are low on combo-points and have st up. so this macro doesnt really work in practice. or am i supposed to have full cp before pressing shadow dance?

chrome palm
#

you build to 6-7 combo points before using the macro

swift tinsel
cinder marten
#

does it assume you have 35% haste for the depeening shadows?

swift tinsel
#

depeening sweatin

summer peak
#

hey guys, are we still using Strike or strorm as builder in AOE, say P2 in Dimi

haughty mural
keen dome
#

Big fan of them moving premed to where SitD was, and putting SitD on a choice node

haughty mural
#

didnt even realize yet

hazy breach
#

I mean its practically a choice node between Shot in the dark, exhilirating execution and shrouded in darkness

keen dome
#

Exhilirating owns though

hazy breach
#

Yes

keen dome
#

Shrouded is also cool and good.

#

But I'm a selfish rogue

warped zodiac
#

ok fellas. i know nothing of prepatch/midnight sub rogue. played sub rogue all of dragonflight and TWW so i know how to play it. how we feeling about. good or bad, simple answers only

keen dome
#

good

torn tide
#

yo is the new talent tree build on wowhead yet?

clever delta
#

Any ui options here

warped zodiac
#

do i need to regear haste to get a proper feel for it or is vers/mast fine

torn tide
#

lol wait did they do something with addons? mine seem to be all off

swift tinsel
#

lmao

#

just a little something

keen dome
torn tide
#

they got rid of everything and made it their own system didnt they

graceful osprey
swift tinsel
#

there was a big addon shake-up with what blizzard allows so things are fairly different

#

addon-wise

keen dome
#

Primarily computatinal combat addons

#

I..e, details, weakauras, etc.

swift tinsel
#

yeah, details is purely cosmetic now but also the damage numbers it was telling me were off

#

like saying BP was doing millions

#

could also have been a target dummy thing

torn tide
#

damn everythings on edit mode now

crystal bone
#

the right trinket is sigil

#

what is the left trinket?

keen dome
#

Imp telephone?

crystal bone
#

sub gapped the other 2 specs last night and then this guy gapped sub as sub

#

with these 2 trinkets on every boss hmmZoom

#

ik sample size small and etc etc etc, just curious lol

upper cosmos
crystal bone
#

o rly

upper cosmos
#

355 vers per stack stacking up to 5

crystal bone
#

that embellishment didnt receive the squish?

keen dome
#

lmao, probably not

upper cosmos
#

idk what it was before but it's def way higher than anything else
atm I have 360 vers just from my gear

cedar willow
#

Any best practice for using silent storm procs?

upper cosmos
#

so that proc is like having another entire set of gear giving vers

crystal bone
#

and it stacks to 5

hazy breach
upper cosmos
#

yeah kinda crazy

crystal bone
#

seems like it didnt get squished

#

i heard timewalking gear didnt get squished either

keen dome
#

They fixed it on the vendors since, but

#

They did a little oops

crystal bone
#

gotta setup my UI today since shadowed unit frames are discontinued Sadge

#

then ill sit at the dummy as sub first i suppose

brisk onyx
crystal bone
#

4 minute dimensius kills is wild

#

i guess there is no reason for it to be hard anymore since no achievements

keen dome
#

Deeply amused they put Eviserate on the Essential Cooldowns bar by default

#

You aren't wrong, Blizz. But, uh.

warm marlin
#

upon reconsideration I may just uninstall for a month or so and give people time to fix up their addons

#

it all seems a bit cursed though

#

if i build ui now then its gonna get broken again in midnight

hazy breach
#

Not sure how much better its gonna get

vestal escarp
chrome palm
#

the weak auras fork is just two weeks away copium

#

ha... i cant wait garf_sit

warm marlin
#

if i wait long enough zac will drop his ui pack and i can avoid doing anything of my own

dry plank
#

what is happening with our autos? i see some logs shows 6-8% mine is 3.9 πŸ™‚

haughty mural
chrome palm
#

haste possibly

fallow nimbus
#

Get more haste

lilac stag
#

Have you tried being closer to the target?

Do you have 35% haste?

warm marlin
#

did you spec into a fatebound spec and proc lucky coin with ravenholdt mint talented and then didnt relog after swapping to sub?

#

real question

fallow nimbus
#

Without gemming haste i am at 32%

chrome palm
lilac stag
#

did you equip a 1H in offhand and not just transmog it?

vale hull
#

can you explain me how veiltouched works? what do they mean by 5% increased magic damage? is it 5% extra damage as magic on all skills?

hazy breach
#

If a rogue spell does magic damage

#

It now does 5% more

upper cosmos
#

11 agi or 21 crit?

placid elk
#

someone tell them

hazy breach
#

Its still functioning

#

Its just red

chrome palm
#

relatable tbh

civic lava
upper cosmos
hazy breach
#

Well the CDR doesnt work

#

But speccing into improved sectech doesnt make it work

#

It just never works

rocky wolf
#

im so glad this small indie game is so well polished

upper cosmos
#

so it only partially functions?

hazy breach
#

It being red is completely irrelevant

hazy breach
crystal bone
graceful osprey
#

Are we dooming now? I’m ready to doom

torn tide
#

yo what are yalls dps now after the squish?

#

idk what dps is good anymore LOL

swift tinsel
#

doesn't seem worth to doom over prepatch imo

crystal bone
#

prepatch is just another 1 month of beta testing

#

lets be real

#

only without apex talents that make every spec supposedly flow

swift tinsel
#

yeah I feel people forget that sizeable caveat

torn tide
#

i love crashing after entering the karesh portal

keen dome
#

I really need to find a proper PRD replacement..

swift tinsel
#

though it has the bar-style combo points, not sure if you're a fan of that

upper cosmos
#

where would I put the talent point I get out of removing TFD if I chose to do so? or is it just really great value because of how short prepatch fights are?

swift tinsel
#

but it allows you to edit the hp, energy, and cp sections independently which is nice

lilac stag
#

you keep TFD

vale pine
lilac stag
#

Everything dead so quickly

vale pine
#

less red = better vibes

swift tinsel
#

more purple = even better vibes

#

maybe that's why I'm vibing with devourer atm

#

its quite purple

lilac stag
#

It’s very purple

keen dome
#

Can you Anchor Sensei?

hazy breach
torn tide
lilac stag
vale pine
swift tinsel
vale pine
#

i still troubleshoot nameplates and search for a good action bar addon

#

::/

swift tinsel
#

I haven't looked into nameplates much yet

lilac stag
#

Plater works.

swift tinsel
#

have plater atm but will likely play around with platynator

hazy breach
#

It shows literally all debuffs

swift tinsel
#

yeah plater was breaking for me all night last night

lilac stag
#

The anator is more light weight.

keen dome
shadow lance
#

I fear coming home

lilac stag
#

I just installed Jundies and it was fine

upbeat garden
hazy breach
#

Ye if you never intend to play assa its fine

swift tinsel
lilac stag
#

Platynator added empowered dots as well I think last night.

upbeat garden
#

does platynator force settings?

vale pine
#

it does

upbeat garden
#

ok thats why then

vale pine
#

it had my game lag as hell when i used it

swift tinsel
upbeat garden
#

alternative ?

vale pine
#

so i dissabled it

torn tide
vale pine
vale pine
swift tinsel
#

that ping monkaCross

vale pine
#

the other one is for cooldown manager + ressource/cd bar aboth

#

so they work well together

#

its from the same author

torn tide
upper cosmos
torn tide
fickle mason
#

Do we hold a shadow dance for an upcoming shadow blades to have 2

upbeat garden
torn tide
#

gotta love having 2 energy bars

vale pine
upbeat garden
#

Yes I need

#

at least for nameplates

vale pine
#

also the best thing about this addon is

#

the / command to open the config is

upbeat garden
#

but too dumb to modify things myself

vale pine
#

/uuf

#

if you spell that backwards

#

fuu

torn tide
#

lmfaoo

upbeat garden
vale pine
#

ye

upbeat garden
#

So I search for someones profile ?

swift tinsel
#

I just want circle cp again with energy below it

#

(that also show supercharged cp)

vale pine
#

there is a profiles tab

#

i can give you mine

#

moment

upbeat garden
#

If u can πŸ˜„ ty vm

vale pine
#

but ui is kinda

torn tide
vale pine
#

everyone likes it diffrent

upbeat garden
#

I like everything

#

but not my things

vale pine
#

give me a sec

keen dome
#

Hmm. Can't anchor it like the old PRD was, sad. It was such nice funciontality to glue to a scalable spot on the character and not just x,y cords.

swift tinsel
#

ah, yeah I don't know of any that allow that kind of functionality

keen dome
#

Yeah

#

Like, I don't get why it's gone??

#

Blizz made the PRD completely fucking useless lmao

vale pine
#

this is my wip ui so far

crystal atlas
#

There going to be any scrolling combat text or we stuck with blizzards?

swift tinsel
#

I think it was fairly unpopular as opposed to it being in a fixed position

crystal atlas
#

What addon are you using for the target and character frame

swift tinsel
#

current

#

gonna tweak some stuff later I think

#

dance/feint text a little large

kind edge
keen dome
#

That's nice

kind edge
swift tinsel
#

TweakUI:Cooldowns, Masque: Simplicity, and SenseClassResourceBar

#

icons are 34x28 if you want to emulate

#

can set energy/cp to sync with essential cooldowns in Edit Mode but they're not exact due to how icon spacing works

#

can share import codes tonight if people want to mess around with stuff

torn tide
#

lmfao my bettercooldownmanager just went nuts on me

#

had a seizure

lilac stag
swift tinsel
#

ah figures

lilac stag
#

Is patreon UI is slick

kind edge
lilac stag
#

but I ain’t paying for it. I’d gladly do a twitch sub

swift tinsel
kind edge
clever delta
#

damn 230 fps in 4K in dornogal

#

its wild

swift tinsel
#

I do like being at 45mb addon memory lol

keen dome
#

Pfft, look at this guy without AllTheThings

lilac stag
#

Blizzard isn’t anti addons. Blizzard wanted WAs dead. cooking

light finch
#

@vale pine could it be that the import strings for the cooldown manager are broken on wowhead ? (edit seemed to be elvui problem)

tough solar
swift tinsel
#

the list is a few messages down

#

also the text is fira sans medium which you have to add to the sharedmedia folder

#

and edit the lua to load it

#

but can use whatever font you want

swift tinsel
#

actually maybe I can get the imports from the cloud lol

vale pine
#

thats my current wip setup

keen dome
#

@vale pine I'm trying to use BetterCooldownManager and I just can't find where to actually edit the PRD / stuff in it

solemn hedge
#

is sub the go to in raid now? we will do some reclears for mounts now and i cannot decide between sub and sin, sub seems better

vale pine
#

its confusing

fathom adder
#

opener is just ss from stealth and instant dance + blades into 6cp sectec?

keen dome
#

Personal Resource display, the bars with combo points, etc

#

I cannot find a way to edit it in the better cooldown manager addon

swift tinsel
#

ah damn can't sync personal cloud with work pc