subtlety

[lilac stag]

Usually g2 is immunities + whatever

[void ocean]

araz myth?

[hazy breach]

No

[lilac stag]

ye

[hazy breach]

You'd always pick TFD though

In keys

The sim is only getting one use of TFD rather than the 7 it should get

[void ocean]

i think the biggest disappointment in my life is the 2nd amp on Araz being cut off after barely finishing the first dance... i cry everytime

[hazy breach]

So if its close when its only getting 1 out of 7 uses its not gonna be particularly close

[vale pine]

only once

[amber sedge]

dude, use snipping tool

[void ocean]

we need more ppl doing boomer selfies with details meter 😄

https://tenor.com/view/noob-pvt-taking-picture-smile-happy-gif-15693018

[late pasture]

will do, thanks a lot

the sectec on pull with or without cb?

[void ocean]

without

it wont come back for the burst

[late pasture]

yea i forgot for a sec that cb isn't affected by cdr

[void ocean]

u will need it ~33-35s into the fight

[late pasture]

so if im able to not soak, i'd send cds at about ~25s?

[void ocean]

yes

[late pasture]

i've never prepared cd timing like this so this is all new to me

cool

[void ocean]

imho the best moment is when u see who gets the adds

in case u get adds and u have to go around the puddle then wait a bit more

but if u r blowing em into the puddle then u r gucci right away

[late pasture]

We will be putting the adds behind the portal and the boss in front of the portal so i'm good on just sending it like we said if i don't get adds?

[late pasture]

peeerfect

thanks a lot for this

[void ocean]

sure

prepare for some wet noodling on the pillar tho 😄

[late pasture]

oh hell yeah, i'm in full assassination gear too so i'm ready for my damage to be very Subtle as Subtlety

but i'm happy that i've been given nice words of encouragement by my guildies to just start practicing the spec

[void ocean]

tho im srsly thinking to blow the second dance on the 2nd pillar spawn anyway cause i dont get to do 2 dances in the 2nd amp phase

[late pasture]

why is that? i thought the amp was long enough for 2 dances

[void ocean]

first one is (i think) 2nd one stops on 15% where boss knocks everyone and starts P2

and we get there with like 27%

gets burned down very fast

i dont think i even finish one dance properly

[late pasture]

aw man our best pull was ~75% we've got waaaays to go haha

Part of the reason i'm allowed to off spec, the boss ain't dying anyway, and i don't help too much as sin, not counting swapping to echo

[void ocean]

lol i somehow used some derogatory term 😄

anyways if mark wasnt so bad ds assa would bre more than a decent choice for Araz

but with swapping just being too careful not to lose it

[late pasture]

yea if only the pylons didn't steal mark the fight would be much more enjoyable

but deathstalker is cringe either way so i'm happy to try something new out

[void ocean]

now on mythic u could probably override it with careful vanish

[late pasture]

sub is the first spec i ever played on rogue, glad to be coming back to it

[void ocean]

cause theres enough time

[late pasture]

yea you'd had to plan out to be in darkest night before the pylons "die"

for 2 of them at least

on the last one it's whatever if you lose it but you gotta use the vanish on the boss

[lilac stag]

Just recraft ring and neck or whatever. Drop haste where you can and you’re fine

[late pasture]

i have no gilded

[void ocean]

save haste for midnight

[late pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[void ocean]

cant wait for the first PI as sub

[lilac stag]

what you don’t get it now?

[late pasture]

capped for this week unfortunately

[void ocean]

well u dont need crests for recraft

[lilac stag]

That was for Pi. Link a gear sim.

we can help

Top gear

[late pasture]

one sec

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7raUfwLFHbHSWuQVKD6Ppo

simming a bit lower than sin but not too much

[lilac pendant]

with nible fury we hit behind us?

[hollow spear]

We hit in a circle around us

8 or 9 yards

[lilac stag]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t2M984aN7GUKrCVRryEJQB

[lunar bluff]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
We do not recommend macroing your cooldowns together because most of them result in performance losses compared to using them manually.
The following macros are an exception:

/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave

When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key as well.

[errant ferry]

Any good YouTube video out there that talk about rogue changes?

[lilac stag]

everything got deleted

[errant ferry]

Sub specifically

[lilac stag]

the end

Darlarn has a general overview

but basically read the blue post

sub is missing a lot on the alpha so it's all whatever right now

[final granite]

!sod

[wicked jolt]

Macro to prevent accidental uses of extra charges: #showtooltip Symbols of Death /castsequence reset=2 Symbols of Death,null /cqs

[final granite]

uhm, the SOD before pull for 2 extra charged CPs still works right? (i think technically one)

like 25sec before pull so you get charge back

[quaint lodge]

yea

everytime u respawn in raid u can just pop it and it should be okay and up by the time u pull again

[lusty solar]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[upbeat garden]

This is f dumb ,I cant play this game

[knotty depot]

finally killed soul hunters

god my parse is kinda awful but it was true for all melee

good thing we're good on Noodle-King Saladbar

[lilac stag]

Welcome to pug cap for rogue.

[upbeat garden]

Idk I feel like Im doing fine in all my keys ,not getting invited just because its yellow color is ...

[lilac stag]

find a push group in one of the m+ discord

or try to at least.

[violet torrent]

That looks like dps in general tbh

I've tried queuing feral dh and rogue it's all the same 😛

[bleak night]

that is indeed the life of a dps

[violet torrent]

Gotta time 20s to queue for 15s

[bleak night]

even dk have fun wait times

a meta dps is still a dps

[violet torrent]

Just gotta get a tank or heal friend you get ez queues

[upbeat garden]

Friends... uff

[void ocean]

u r tellin me u dont have 4 friends with 4k rio where one is a tank and other flex healer

[upbeat garden]

hehehe

2 hrs sitting in queue

only got invited to dawn 3 times

and 3rd time was timed ,all those I gapped dks and hunters

I mean holy f

[foggy bolt]

hi first time trying sub in m+

why would i ever press backstab instead of shadowstrike

is it just to spread find weakness? is it that important?

[void ocean]

everyone plays fdk nowadays

honestly if u r a fdk in a key and u r not top overall dunno what to say xD

[shrewd lantern]

all dps got long wait times unless you got big ilvl or io or both

[last gate]

does reshi boots matter?

[bleak night]

that is what i said on the next line yes

[last gate]

like i dont have it yet and im 717 should i beg for it

?

[bleak night]

[last gate]

or its not that strong 💔

(PLEASE TELL ME ITS NOT THAT STRONG )

[shrewd lantern]

its like 50k dps

maybe more

[last gate]

are you sure?

50k?

lol

[signal cobalt]

Shadow strike requires stealth or stealth benefits from shadow dance backstab when u are not in cds

[last gate]

are you talking about dance window?

[shrewd lantern]

normal to mythic was 70k on sim for me

including the 10 ilvl bump on boots

[last gate]

if yes its a free [Danse Macabre] stack = 6% dmg

[last gate]

oh

i dont even have it

so its probably more for me

xd

[shrewd lantern]

yeah 30% to 50%

+10 boot ilvl agi

its probably one of the biggest gains this season

[vagrant fulcrum]

ay how're you guys playign 2nd plat baldes

[shrewd lantern]

besides prism

[vagrant fulcrum]

its supposed to be on landing

[last gate]

💔 youre hurting me..

[tepid trellis]

insta send

[last gate]

SEE 😭

[vagrant fulcrum]

how do you deal with the ball mechanic

is it just downtime?

[tepid trellis]

you bait it

[vagrant fulcrum]

i immuned it last pull and it giga nuked the raid

[tepid trellis]

then cloak and walk right and stay in the circle

[vagrant fulcrum]

hold up

[tepid trellis]

dont stand in the way of the orbs

[vagrant fulcrum]

ah

bait, run out the way

and no downtime?

[tepid trellis]

entire raid baits

[vagrant fulcrum]

ye

[tepid trellis]

then he will do the AoE circle just cloak and walk right and stay in it

[tepid trellis]

https://youtu.be/OmbOnoJe8Mw?t=326

there is a bait orbs countdown

then it will tell you to move right

[shrewd lantern]

Idk what im looking at

[late pasture]

damn araz got hands

[last gate]

a rogue with no boots who cries in every single raid every single week

[shrewd lantern]

idk do soulhunters ig

[last gate]

been doing it on LFR NM HC

xd

[shrewd lantern]

we call that in the business, unlucky

[tepid trellis]

nah

skill issue

[shrewd lantern]

oh true and real

i’ve gotten norm and hc ones on my dh and war

[lilac stag]

skill issue

[tepid trellis]

my havoc as 0 boots

[vagrant fulcrum]

ty, will watch for next raid

[tepid trellis]

but its still 720

surely i get boots someday

[lilac stag]

no woyer boots. Hopefully vault blesses

[shrewd lantern]

your dh is 720 eq?

what the helly

[swift tinsel]

I think we've seen 3x leather boots drop all season across all difficulties

[lilac stag]

both our DKs are in champ boots

[shrewd lantern]

Oh nice i compared mythic sh boots to mythic fract

65k diff

[lilac stag]

Pali got it in vault.

[shrewd lantern]

[swift tinsel]

yeah vault def carrying our reshii boot acquisition

[shrewd lantern]

I think it is for most people

though we had double leather drop our last kill

[swift tinsel]

I'm starting to get 'talked to' for not filling my vault out anymore lol

I cba to play more than raid logging

[lilac stag]

@haughty mural let the midnight prep begin

[shrewd lantern]

i feel its unreasonable to expect 3 m+ vaults

this late

[swift tinsel]

also not fully upgrading like 2/3 of my myth gear lol

at this point I'm waiting for turbo boost uncapping

yeah iirc only a ring and momma neck are upgrades for me from m+

[shrewd lantern]

m+ loot kind of booty

especially since its 2 tracks behind raid vault

[lilac stag]

fully mythic tier?

[swift tinsel]

I'm just myth kitted in most slots

yeah

[lilac stag]

lucky

[swift tinsel]

fully myth tier, shoulders, belt

hc reshii boots

[shrewd lantern]

my only upgrades would be a neck

or rinng

[swift tinsel]

hc track momma and radiant necromancer ring

hc prism/forge

which I won't replace unless we get to araz

[shrewd lantern]

i have myth radiant necro

[swift tinsel]

we re-prog soulbinder every night

[shrewd lantern]

and hc db ring

[swift tinsel]

so that kills lots of game time

[shrewd lantern]

my sim doesnt like logic gate alpha

[swift tinsel]

plus we suck at tethers

[shrewd lantern]

no matter what i do

[swift tinsel]

bc ranged slack so fucking hard

and people can't figure out beams

literally have people eating a full one and dying

instead of swapping 2 people

[shrewd lantern]

i got a priory neck that was 16k gain over my big momma

[swift tinsel]

loom is taking way more effort than it should

[shrewd lantern]

and it came with speed

game telling me i had way too much mastery

[haughty mural]

Dang

[swift tinsel]

oh yeah I'm like skirting the edge of swapping off a lot of mastery. Kinda hoping I get a logic gate: alpha in vault

[shrewd lantern]

speed on a neck is pog tbh

[haughty mural]

im on it

[shrewd lantern]

move like 9% faster

[lilac stag]

warbound drops coming in clutch

[shrewd lantern]

funny thing is i have one

but my sim dislikes it

except in dslice

its likely since belt+antenna easily puts me over 60% crit

even if i sim with plexus belt it doesnt want alpha

[haughty mural]

my hunter is already 716 🙂

[swift tinsel]

interesting, I've got crafted as my other and hover around 27% crit so it might want me to swap a few things which is w/e

[shrewd lantern]

Yeah i have sub 20% crit and my sim doesnt want crit

[lilac stag]

my drip is 716

[haughty mural]

[shrewd lantern]

get the teal araz sword

you know, why didnt they give us mog tokens for weapons this tier

like they did for undermine

[bleak night]

I think they start dropping further down on the rep line

From salad bar

[shrewd lantern]

I dont recall seeing replica weapons

on the vendor

[bleak night]

I can't login to check

Idk what appearances would be there other than weapons though

I haven't looked since like the start of the tier though since its taking so long to even unlock the drop

[lilac stag]

artifact just goes better

[hexed sluice]

There is a weapon vendor on the far right of all the vendors on the left side of raid entrance

[iron obsidian]

!tea

[wicked jolt]

Thistle tea use:
It is recommended to macro Thistle Tea with Shadow Dance like this:

/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```

[late pasture]

alright, first time properly dedicating a night to play sub in a while, only half a day to learn as much as i can, and i'm in sin gear missing a lot of vers while having too much haste

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k1RXTac3qr6Lt4mv

if anyone can check out a pull or two and tell me what i can do better that would be greatly appreciated

[languid harness]

hello, new to sub here playing mostly in m+, how should I use double on-use trinkets in dungeons

[narrow night]

other trinket then netherprism repeat for flag and blades

netherprism every 3 min

[languid harness]

so basically leave lily on cd for 1 min 30 when its the netherprisms turn to cast?

[narrow night]

usually you have near 18 stacks at the second cooldown window so lily>prims>lily>prims should be good

[languid harness]

yeah but my thought was that means im using lily every 3 minutes as well right?

but its a 1 min 30 cd

[narrow night]

double on use has a 20 sec cd

you cant use both

when you press prism lily has 20 sec extra cd

[languid harness]

yeah i know, i was wondering if its just better to use it on any good cast of symbols + dance + technique

in between uses of flag and shadow blades

[narrow night]

i doubt it im not 100% sure

[languid harness]

yeah thats why i was wondering haha

it seems bad to leave lily on cd for that long

[tepid trellis]

you just lily with cds when prism is below 16 stacks

[warm marlin]

You use Lily with blades until prism has big stacks

[tepid trellis]

!prism

[wicked jolt]

Unyielding Netherprism
Use the trinket at the same time as Shadow Blades. What stacks you should use it on depends on your trinket combination:

• If its your only on-use trinket: Using it on 9 or 18 stacks is the same on a target dummy but in practice thing like big pulls, damage amps or timings often end up favoring the big 18 stack.
• If youre using Prism+Forge: Rotate between them each Shadow Blades regardless of stacks (so forge on pull, prism on 1:30, forge on 3:00)
• If youre using Prism+Lily: Use Lily with Blades until you have 16+ stacks of Prism, then use prism and hold Lily for next Blades.

[tepid trellis]

most cases it just like this
lily-lily-prism-lily-prism-lily-prism

[languid harness]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
We do not recommend macroing your cooldowns together because most of them result in performance losses compared to using them manually.
The following macros are an exception:

/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave

When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key as well.

[narrow night]

with lily you should have a extra button for prism

[languid harness]

yeah that figures

i was hoping there was a magic macro so i didnt have to think about it

lmao

[glad rampart]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[karmic harbor]

i heard there were patch notes

[hazy breach]

Not much, just small nerfs to the best classes

[karmic harbor]

Rogue

Fatebound: Fixed an issue that caused the damage bonus provided by Fatebound Coin (Heads) to be 8% lower than the displayed value.

ok nvm

[hazy breach]

Small little buff to assa

[bleak night]

the last two times they "fixed" fatebound it worked really well

so surely it did this time too

[upper narwhal]

evasion now causes you to dodge incoming lucky coins

[plush roost]

Were back

Bm was holding us back

Now we get to be aoe demon

[tropic nimbus]

facts

[west tide]

guys with a boost and nerf u think its worth going back to antenna vs double on use

im assuming we wont be able to hold dps on dimmy anymore

like maybe can only cd 1 plat

everything will die so fast

[alpine wraith]

depends on strat

safest one is still hold

mainly for p3 things

the amp is very important

[heady gazelle]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety WAs's:
Class packs:

Fuu's Luxthos's LE's

Kieron's Devlin's guy's

Utilities:

• Shadowcraft refund sound trigger
• Deathstalker mark nameplate border
• Targets in range tracker
• :skull: Find Weakness target tracker
• Stealthi's Coup de Grace bar

[graceful osprey]

I have no idea how many priory or dawnbreaker I’ve done but still no ring drop

[cyan saddle]

i have ~20k mastery and crit because i am coming from sin. Will that work for a sub?

[maiden oar]

Artoshion and Pargoth health reduced by 5%.

wonder when its 1x flag in p2

[plush roost]

Dimmy p1 health unnerfed, probably still a hold angle for a few more weeks

Now u just hold forwvwr

Real question is, fatebound assa > sub soon

[maiden oar]

uh oh

i dont like that question

[maiden oar]

true!

[warm marlin]

Why hold

just blast

U do infinite damage anyway who needs cds

[maiden oar]

id prefer to blast but i am not sure if thats the popular opinion

i love hitting

[velvet hawk]

my sims is saying prism+pacemaker is recommended over all the other trinkets for dslice. is that normal? or should i just stick to forge+prism

or even lily/prism

[plush roost]

Hold guild holds so i can parse ty for your time

[ripe flame]

@warm marlin managed to kill the big dimmy boi today, thanks for the cooks for the non-autumn bois

[short radish]

gz on hof

[maiden oar]

[shrewd lantern]

mount?

[ripe flame]

ty king

[ripe flame]

not such luck today

[shrewd lantern]

oh well at least kill

i prob used up my first kill mount rng

on first two

[warm marlin]

Huge big grats

[kind bluff]

are we running cb in m+ again??

im seeing it on rio

[hazy breach]

You can run either

[spice matrix]

what's the non autumn cook? I do be one of them boys

[warm marlin]

basically just need to fly well and instacast flag -> dance/symbols/blades/sectec

can still cd every plat and have it up when damage amp starts if you are clean

ints your platform damage a bit (mostly first add set on pargoth) but can salvage p3

[tribal blade]

@tepid trellis made the decision to quit solo queueing for IO keys yesterday

only gonna run push keys with guildies when they decide they want to

[short radish]

[tribal blade]

it's a happy decision 😉

i was already not enjoying myself

well i was enjoying doing push keys, but not the stress and anxiety that came from hunting lfg for keys

and degening all day

[plush roost]

Dw i get donowalled from 17s (3714io btw)

[tribal blade]

haha classic rogue problem

i was chatting with edude the other day, he's having a slight crisis playing rogue atm

i've seen him gearing up his havoc and warr

[spice matrix]

yea thats what I figured when we were talking about adjusting CD timings to hit the amp. Feels bad with no autumn

[tribal blade]

@plush roost btw i figured out it was you who helped a havoc i tried getting 18 priory with

he talked about how he got carried through it by a 3900 rogue from last season

and i was like "oh, was it charrend" and he said yeah

part of the reason why i wanted to stop pushing is this guy has 80 points on me and i carry him through every key i do with him

like doing ~2 mil more overall than him in every key kinda carry

[plush roost]

What that ketadoc guy?

[tribal blade]

hehe yes

he's a good guy though, always looking out for me

but it does get frustrating

[plush roost]

Yeah he uh

Nearly lost to a tank in st

On braunpyke

[tribal blade]

haha sounds about right

he also wanted to min max my cd usage in priory

when i'm beating him in overall by a lot

[plush roost]

Brotha needs to minmax his global usage me thinks

[tribal blade]

you know he doesn't even have details

[plush roost]

Thats WILS

D

[tribal blade]

like he asks me to link him dmg after every key

not even joking

"hey can you link second boss dmg"

"hey can you link overall"

my details report is just set to that now

[short radish]

why the fuck does he not have details

but is asking for it

holy shit i hate this guy already

[tribal blade]

i ahve no idea

but yeah watching him eclipse me in IO

has made me lose all desire to push

[plush roost]

Oh

[short radish]

yeah well ackshully he deserves it because he has to do mechanics like aoe cc rotation and you don't which is why his dps is so much lower

[plush roost]

He didnt even

Beat the tank

[ripe flame]

what ryldd said earlier basically jsut a macro so you can get every cd on cd at the sametime so it fits better on the amp

[tribal blade]

incredible

[plush roost]

It doesnt get better

Thats with 6 footman and a caster btw

Now venditus is a turbo pwar but yeeesh

[tribal blade]

yeah it's mega depressing

i've actually attempted 18 priory with him so many times

but i don't do as much dmg as you

so i can't full carry him like you did

[plush roost]

Someone finally beat my 100 parse smodge

Bro how do you meta only 12 times in a 32 minute key

[tribal blade]

you're still 100 in our hearts

[plush roost]

Wtf

[tribal blade]

wait actually

well

[tribal blade]

there's his dmg loss lol

[plush roost]

Like what is this

Man the more i look the more horrified i get

I can see why his st is low

Bruv actually went eyebeam felrush reavers glaive sweep anniliation

Oh gos

The eye beam do nothing for 3 globals, meta eyebeam

[tribal blade]

HAHA jesus

well this was 18 DB i did with him

[plush roost]

You know its crazy bad when i recognized his name from a description of "priory 18 u carried"

Standout

[surreal sparrow]

Hi, is there a macro to shadowstep your target but also with the possibility to mouseover

Nvm i found it

[weak atlas]

any gamer mind taking a look at a nexus king log and shit on me? feel like i'm playing ok till amp, but then specially on the amp I feel like im doing dog dam (~20m dps)

im dumb, mythic nexus king

[compact palm]

Hey guys, what’s some good macros? Just started playing sub

[dense mountain]

did you get autumn?

[weak atlas]

nyo

[dense mountain]

20m isnt that bad then

[weak atlas]

but I've seen gamers pump without autumn

well, I'll leave this here in case anyone is available to take a look

!log

[tribal blade]

hahaaa

[tribal blade]

PSA he name changed to this https://raider.io/characters/us/illidan/Bæsic?season=season-tww-3

has 74 points on me playing like that

mondo depression

thing is unless he improves he gonna hit the wall much earlier than everyone else

happens every time

[vagrant sinew]

does he rename when they start declining him

[haughty rose]

in the 12-15 key range if we have cd's ready on boss pull, do we use them once on the boss and hold for typically 20-40% boss hp to have them ready for big pull after that or do we use them back to back and have them not ready on big pulls after boss?

on dungeons like priory after first boss, HoA after first and second, arak first and more it always feels wasted to use to set's of CD's during the boss and not having them ready for big pull after but i don't know if it's more or less dps that way

[hollow spear]

It's probably less overall, but the key will be faster

[umbral topaz]

Tbh depends on what your group has available aswell.
And how shit your other dps are 😂

If everyone holding and all are very bursty, its gonna be shit
But if the others use on boss, then saving for next pull could be a good play

[shrewd lantern]

bro thinks about cds more than me

i just send if i get 15s of value out of them

[tribal blade]

can someone help explain how exactly the spikes work on nexus king

[short radish]

if it's a 12 i'll probably lean more on the side of holding if there's a large pull coming up

but higher keys if im getting full use im sending

[tribal blade]

i'm watching a bunch of povs to try to understand exactly how they hit and deal dmg, but i'm having a rough time understanding

[short radish]

when spike appear, damage gets done to your character if yo ure standing on it

hope this helps

👍

[tribal blade]

ok so you don't actually take dmg from the rings if you stand in them while there's not spikes?

[short radish]

no that's why you can run over them

its like 1-2-3-damage

[tribal blade]

ok i figured it was something like that, makes more sense now

[short radish]

(don't quote me on the 1-2-3 count)

[shrewd lantern]

can you explain how i tell people to stop complaining about conquer damage

when it feels like a wet noodle

[tribal blade]

feint OP

[shrewd lantern]

i like how i have higher mitigation

than all but the tanks

[short radish]

which one is conquer?

[tribal blade]

feint is actually insanely good for conquers

the soaks

in P1

[shrewd lantern]

group bonk

[short radish]

oh

yeah idk people dont die from conquer

they die from the dot beforehand

and not being full hp before conquer

[tribal blade]

i don't think any other dps spec in the game has a dr for every conquer except rogue

[shrewd lantern]

im listening to people compare healthpot and stone usage in p1 and im like

[short radish]

yes i know conquer is the one killing them but they need to defensive the dot, not the conquer

[shrewd lantern]

"you guys take damage in p1?"

[tribal blade]

if people miss the conquer that'll also kill people

[shrewd lantern]

or dks being

dks

[shrewd lantern]

me when i prefer getting dot

because i know i cant get claws

[short radish]

same

[shrewd lantern]

idk i just

never felt in danger in p1

so never healthpotted really

[tribal blade]

you probably have good healers

who don't die

my raid is running rsham, hpal and disc priest

and they die a lot

[short radish]

no evoker is kinda rough

we swapped to 4 healing pretty early

when we lost ours

[tribal blade]

trust when you're not running the highest performing healers it's rough

[shrewd lantern]

well no

our healers are the ones flooring

to conquer or beams

[tribal blade]

we prob should have done that

[shrewd lantern]

the most

[tribal blade]

from what i hear healing is hard on the fight

because they have to stare at raid frames

[short radish]

yeah 3 healing doesnt really bring any advantages except you kill boss faster

[tribal blade]

makes it harder to dodge and do images

[short radish]

which i suppose is a pretty big advantage

[shrewd lantern]

idk what healer is good this tier

[short radish]

but also people need to play better

and people are shit

[shrewd lantern]

i just can tell when our hpal floors

and my flag cd is fucked

because no autumn

[tribal blade]

it's too late now for us, can't bring in a 4th healer while progging P3

[short radish]

just make your ret pal go holy

[tribal blade]

haha no ret pal

only hpal

[short radish]

unluggy

[shrewd lantern]

we have 4 healers

but with how often one is floorpov

might as well be 3

[tribal blade]

well shit our ele has been healing keys

he did mention he might be able to heal for nexus king recently

[shrewd lantern]

i still remember that rsham social in his guild

[tribal blade]

but i don't think they want to change anything up

[shrewd lantern]

with the prophet sucks rank

[tribal blade]

which sucks because i'm constantly fearing for my life

[tribal blade]

TRUE

[short radish]

how many pulls are you in?

[tribal blade]

looks like 211

[honest jetty]

!guides

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[honest jetty]

!mistakes

[wicked jolt]

Here are some common mistakes and how to spot them in your logs:

• Go into your log, press Timelines and Casts to the right like this
• Every single Flagellation & Blades window should look like the opener in this picture. Coup, shadowstrikes and eviscerates can move around a bit depending on procs, but all the other spells should be used exactly like this.
• Make sure you always get 8 globals off during your shadow dances. You can hover over your shadow dances to see the exact times they start, and then see if your 8th spell is within 8 seconds of that.
• If your shadow dance and/or symbols wasnt ready in time to be used like in the picture above you used too many in between your burst.

[short radish]

yeah okay that deep may as well just stick with it

[tribal blade]

ok so with spikes you can just wait right on the edge till the spikes go off, you land in a ring and just move into a safe spot before they spike again

alright this is making sense in my head now

jesus christ

i had a really hard time visualizing how to move for them

[short radish]

yeah

though generally

the turtle shells have been placed in the right position

so you move in on like

3/4 and then 7 i think

[tribal blade]

i just didn't understand exactly when to move

[short radish]

ahhh

[tribal blade]

and when exactly the dmg went out

in my head i thought the ring would just kill you at any point you touched them

[short radish]

oooh

nah otherwise how would have the classes get through

[tribal blade]

yes true

goddamnit i wish i could rewind time and redo P3 prog now

at least i'm very consistent on P1 and P2

i think i'm the most consistent person on first 2 phases in my raid team currently

[fossil forge]

I wish i could rewind time and just stop after soulhunters

[tribal blade]

hahaha

[fossil forge]

dw bro

Im 200pulls in too

✊

[tribal blade]

i just spent over an hour going through povs and chatting with you guys

to figure this out

[fossil forge]

What are you lads brainstorming

[tribal blade]

i didn't understand how the spikes worked in P3

exactly how they worked

so i was getting hit

[warm marlin]

just game little bro

[fossil forge]

I aint even Seen p3

[warm marlin]

[tribal blade]

haha should be cakewalk now that i understand

[fossil forge]

They need to make it in order to prog saladbar u need to have kyveza achievement

Lowk

how these mfs struggling to mog a ghost mid fight

[short radish]

dont worry the other 19 members of you raid will still fuck it up

[tribal blade]

trueee

[short radish]

If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.

This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.

If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 25 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.

You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.

And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.

So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

[fossil forge]

I mean If my rl pinged this like 10 people are instantly out

[fossil forge]

[short radish]

it was a copypasta at the start of the tier that has somehow become accurate

[fossil forge]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/massive-hall-of-fame-nerfs-to-mythic-nexus-king-and-dimensius-announced-378782

Mashallah

[tribal blade]

i just turned down an offer to go to a resil 18 priory with a key friend who's very good

[fossil forge]

Its 9am bro aint no1 locking themselves in priory jail

[tribal blade]

priory jail is correct

[upbeat sorrel]

Are we the new fotm melee for m+ after dk nerfs

[vale pine]

so, you like priory?

[short radish]

DH still exists

[upbeat sorrel]

Who doesn't love mashing feint while hearing the BONG from sacred tolls going off

[short radish]

AoE incoming.

[upbeat sorrel]

Time to level dh for remix I guess

[unkempt ether]

!coup

[wicked jolt]

Coup de Grace Optimizations:

• **Number 1: ** You can hold coup up to ~20 secounds and stop using finishers ~10 seconds before your Flagellation comes up on Single Target. The later is used to build up Shadow Techniques for your cooldowns.
• Number 2: ONLY with the 4 set of the new tier! -- During Shadow Blades or with 4+ targets, if you have the 4 set buff active and need to build combo points you can use Shuriken Storm to not proc Unseen Blade before using your 2nd Coup.
• Explanation: The Tier Set buff does not allow new applications of the Unseen Blades stacks, so any Unseen Blades procs between the 2 Coup casts would be wasted, this small adjustment prevents that from happening.

[limpid sage]

dh not getting hit by anything is actually crazy

[keen dome]

They got hit by Adarus Duskblaze's inability to dress himself. They have to associate with him. That's a huge aura nerf.

[limpid sage]

I'm not sure 3% nerf on fdk cuts it either?

[short radish]

yeah 3% feels like a whatever burger

[limpid sage]

like wouldn't you pick fdk even with 8% aura nerf with the util they have for over half the dungeons

[limpid sage]

what are your graphic settings on

[keen dome]

1

I'm in idle mode

[limpid sage]

ah I thought this was just what you were playing on perma

or in raid

[keen dome]

Haha, nah. I play on 6/7 in raid

[lilac stag]

fury gonna creep its way to the top

[keen dome]

But when I'm idling or doing daily content it's on 1

[limpid sage]

I'd love to see them get rid of the necessity for grip

then fdk could become a flex spot again that we could take over

[fossil forge]

Nerf frost buff sanlayn

[keen dome]

Give us a grip

[limpid sage]

fury, sub and havoc/feral would go hard

[keen dome]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-get-over-here-come-to-me-gif-20449294

[tight monolith]

hahahah

[harsh lotus]

hi all, new sub here. been digging into guides but can i ask how many dance/symbols combo do you do between blades?

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/kylemore-boop-clunk-ziplone-falling-gif-26295896

Sub rogue version

[tribal blade]

HELL no

priory is a pretty good example of a key that has every problem with key pushing

i was just testing AI to see if it can track the new names of players who have namechanged

[short radish]

[tribal blade]

and it just said that i am somehow the new name of the player i'm trying to track

uh

ok

[limpid sage]

what AI is that

[tribal blade]

just the google AI

[keen dome]

Well it's trash like all of them

[tribal blade]

maybe it came to that conclusion because i asked this before

[keen dome]

Almost certainly

[tribal blade]

but i have no idea why that link would be made

[keen dome]

Because it's trash

[tribal blade]

haha fair enough

i also asked it to convert all my crests into gilded so i could see what the final amount i would have is

and it said i would have 40 gilded crests

from a metric buttload of unused crests

which is wildly off

[keen dome]

Please see above

[tribal blade]

TRUE

sometimes it does amazing things

sometimes it's so wrong it doesn't make sense

[harsh lotus]

also, do i need fish for shuriken crits during aoe to build big black powders or just use it on 4+ targets no worries?

[tribal blade]

you can kinda just completely ignore FW in aoe

you'll spread it naturally by doing your rotation optimally

also for symbols/dance between cds it's not a set amount, you just track them to make sure you'll have x2 dance and x2 symbols for your next cd set

an easy way to work around this is stop sending everything ~30 secs before next flag

[vale pine]

identity theft right there

[harsh lotus]

30 secs before big burst, thanks mate!

[tribal blade]

yikes scary

[tribal blade]

as you grow more comfortable you'll be able to see when you can send dance+symbols without messing up your next cd set

[vale pine]

you can think of it as:

• 4 dances
• 3 dances
• repeat

thats within the 90 sec intervall of big cooldowns

[mighty citrus]

are there szenarios, where you would do 4 dances 4 dances without delaying your cds?

[vale pine]

a bit more detailed

you have some spare charges

so if you e.g. look at top logs

you often see the 4-3 pattern

but at the end of the fight you proabably see a 4th dance used

midnight simplifies this heavily ^^

[harsh lotus]

so 2 dances within blades, 2 dances outside, then 2 dances within and 1 dance outside, repeat

[dusk wave]

@lament topaz Jour 2 : Pas encore banni

[vale pine]

yes

[vocal pulsar]

!bugs

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet | Github Tracker

[vocal pulsar]

are these bugs in the spreadsheet up to date?

[hazy breach]

Yes

[clever drift]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hexed veldt]

!guides

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[supple pawn]

yall i respect your opinions more than any other class discord how cooked are my takes

(based on mythic mode)

[limpid sage]

council of dreams being higher than anything else is a mistake

I like loomithar, rik and sikran more than a lot of your options higher up as well

[supple pawn]

you'd rather play stix than council???

oh wait

no i misunderstood lol

nah that's valid

tho

[limpid sage]

stix is swamp tier ye

[supple pawn]

i was able to tolerate council at least, the others i actively disliked

except maybe terros

i think i put terros too low

[limpid sage]

soul hunters isn't F tier imo either

[tribal blade]

hey you like what you like

we can't tell you otherwise tbh

[limpid sage]

yes we can

[tribal blade]

hahaaaa

i would have put sarkareth on F tier for me

i hated that fight

[limpid sage]

sarkareth was awesome imo

way more than gallywix

[tribal blade]

sark was a combo i hated

had to do a P3 bomb

[keen dome]

Earnog to S tier

[tribal blade]

haste buff which was useless for rogue

everything was purple and i had a really hard time seeing everything

[supple pawn]

I never got to play sark

[tribal blade]

also had really bad fps on that fight and hadn't optimized my setup at that time

[supple pawn]

I was going to tbh

[keen dome]

He's so funny because he's just a trash mob

[supple pawn]

Lmao 😭

[keen dome]

Even on Mythic the fight is a joke, and I tihnk that's really funny

Poor guy never got to be a real boss

[tribal blade]

i think for me princess kyveza was a S+ boss

my favorite boss of recent memory

absolute banger

[keen dome]

Plexus is an S for me because he does an incredible job as a gatekeeper for Mythic. Harder than heroic, easier than boss 3 so he stops pug groups fucking lockouts.

I also find it a really fun fight (but I'm only 2/8M so can't comment on much)

[tribal blade]

plexus is good yeah

[keen dome]

Same reason I agree with Kazzara being S

First bsos on Mythic being really hard is good

[supple pawn]

I would've put him in S tier if not for pugs being so shit at killing plexus

Lemme kill the damn thing

[keen dome]

lol they're so shit at it, it's hilarious

People failing normal mechanics trying to pug mythic

[supple pawn]

Kazarra is probably my favourite first boss

Wait

...realising it's kinda obvious based on the ahem. Tier list

[keen dome]

😄

It's a very good fight, I'm sad I never killed it in S2.

[tribal blade]

kazarra was annoying to prog tbh

a lot of wiping to dumb stuff

but a fun boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6YCbbMemiE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SnN1sBWGO8

[supple pawn]

If they managed to translate her abilities into a spec somehow I would reroll tbh

[tribal blade]

if we're gonna talk about kazarra, obligatory gromnak clips

kazarra was kinda hell to prog with a monkey raid team

because other people could screw you over so hard

[supple pawn]

Right

[tribal blade]

it was also super rng parsing because you could only parse if you got no mechanics

if you were getting mechs it's gg

[bleak night]

it wouldve been a crime to not post gromnak clips

[tribal blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnFrKwXKiEo anotherone

[supple pawn]

My secret is I don't main rogur

Or, play rogue for that matter

Most I've done is low keys or PvP for shitty alt elite 😭

[tribal blade]

oh

[supple pawn]

Rogue is easily my weakest class for alt elites tbh

Because I played sub

[tribal blade]

AHHH ok an alt

[hazy breach]

Sark p1 is goated

Too bad the rest of the fight isnt

[supple pawn]

Yeah all of these bosses are from the perspective of a survival hunter

[tribal blade]

i agree with this take yeah

actually

P1 is good

[supple pawn]

Outside of vault, which is partly survival and partly DK

[tribal blade]

everything after P1 i hated

[supple pawn]

Nah yeah P1 Sark was banger

Even on heroic I hated P3

Felt like mechanic spam

[tribal blade]

i struggle more than others with visual clarity

and i found that fight to be absolute hell trying to make out what was where

purple on purple on purple

and then running around doing the worst bomb set

and then baiting the big thing to immune after

i legit could not parse because of that

[supple pawn]

Yupppppppp

I held off getting AOTC exclusively because of P3 first impressions on normal mode lol

[tepid trellis]

that tier was my playground

[tribal blade]

i'm proud of that tier mostly because that was when godcomp and aug became a thing

and still managed to barely make title

i think that's my biggest M+ accomplishment

[supple pawn]

im not proud of that tirr

[tribal blade]

progging the WAs on echo was hell haha

the amount of standing around fixing everyone's stuff

was so bad

since i was linking gromnak i have to link prob my favorite clip of his ever https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/AntediluvianPeacefulPanKappaPride-19uwjVXRBzBSAHtJ

[limpid sage]

kyveza is my nemesis

[supple pawn]

Random off topic. When I first killed dimensius, we got to phase 3 and tbch I thought it was phase 2 and I knew the fight was a 3phase so was very confused when he just didd

Did anyone experience this? Or just me

[left jungle]

when midnight comes, coud we survive?

[tribal blade]

i thought i would have a hard time iwth her, but i ended up doing quite well

[limpid sage]

daggers completely messed me during prog because I max ranged melee distance and didn't understand why I couldn't make it out like everyone else

(I was playing fury back then)

also she refused to die when I had a pull without mechanics

[tribal blade]

i actually stopped having issues with the daggers when i realized she would kinda bait into certain positions

[limpid sage]

yes same

[tribal blade]

and i remember being able to pre position

[limpid sage]

but took me too long

fury brain debuff

[tribal blade]

haha that's fair

[supple pawn]

I have a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard so the ghosts where really annoying to deal with...

[limpid sage]

ovinax was cool af I think

but they just messed up the experience entirely

[tribal blade]

oh i was talking about the raid encounter, not the delve thingy

[supple pawn]

o

I didn't do that on mythic so can't say much

[tribal blade]

it was a very cool fight

and we couldn't run cheat on it

[limpid sage]

puddles spawning underneath the millions of adds

[tribal blade]

actually

i fucking hated everything about ovi

[limpid sage]

and eggs not being popped unless your circle overlapped the very middle of them

[tribal blade]

yeah screw that fight

[limpid sage]

lead to so many wipes for no reason

[wild vine]

A new expansion is no reason to die unless you are already starving and spending your last money on the game

[tribal blade]

i didn't do so well on that fight

[limpid sage]

the design was cool though

[supple pawn]

Because of reaper?

[tribal blade]

base feint didn't work on anything p much

[supple pawn]

ooch

[tribal blade]

so you would just get completely dicked during intermission if you ran cheat

[supple pawn]

Ah

So you had to run elusiveness

Or die

[hazy breach]

Cheat didnt really work either

Most of the time

[limpid sage]

just like delve kyveza xd

[tribal blade]

yeah i think her 1 shots hit hard enough

i suppose you could run cheat if you had really good healers

[hazy breach]

Nah its just cheat being bugged

The 85% damage reduction seldom works

[tribal blade]

dude remember on ovi

getting hit by circles on circles

and it just kills you through cheat

so toxic

[vale pine]

the damage reduction part often triggers later

so you still get the hit with full output

[tribal blade]

it really sucks

[vale pine]

also cheat does not work if the hit is bigger than 2x your max hp

[supple pawn]

@vale pine if I may ask who PFP is of/by?

[limpid sage]

but why would it be split up like that

[limpid sage]

and why is that a thing

[tribal blade]

i think it's so you can't abuse cheat

[vale pine]

its a drawing i made and added texture with ai

i know ai is controversial but its rly good to "color in" details

[supple pawn]

Oh wow

[tribal blade]

oh i didn't know you made that yourself, it's really nice

[limpid sage]

ye but couldn't they just add an instakill hook to those mechanics or something

[supple pawn]

Can I bother you in dms about art I wanna see more 😭

[tribal blade]

they could yeah

[vale pine]

i did but it was a pain

because ai loves to change details too

[tribal blade]

ahhhh interesting

[vale pine]

think models now are better

wan looks very interessting

but i like that its not perfect and has flaws

it reminds me that everything is a bit messy

[tribal blade]

had dinner last night with my parents and their friends, and one is a teacher who's learning how to use AI to teach

it's crazy how even the older generation is taking up AI

[wild vine]

Most of the time happens if you gain any subjectively big enough advantage

Which kinda would be the case

[tribal blade]

yeah i think AI is an amazing teaching tool from what i've heard

it's able to understand exactly what students know

[limpid sage]

ye my mom has used it as google since I showed it to her xd

[tribal blade]

and teach them within the zone of proximal development better than humans

[wild vine]

Think it kinda depends on the topic

[tribal blade]

i suggested to my mom to use it but she's terrified

[wild vine]

Like on actual facts it should be really reliable aswell

Debatable things tho

[bleak night]

good thing people dont try to debate actual facts

[analog granite]

Colleague of mine proudly showed me how she used AI to create a shopping list, she was acting like this was a groundbreaking use for AI

[bleak night]

[tribal blade]

HAHAHA

[bleak night]

kinda based

[tribal blade]

that's actually hilarious

[analog granite]

It was kinda wholesome tho, she was so proud

[limpid sage]

a lot of times it approximates facts instead of directly referencing them

[tribal blade]

that's a pat on the head moment

[limpid sage]

so if 1 source says small fart and another source says big fart then it says medium fart

[wild vine]

I think the most reasonable thing I ever used AI for was to create a mealplan for the weekend

[tribal blade]

yeah i've run into this

[limpid sage]

it also used to be extremely bad at converting mL to L somehow (which would mean it didn't/doesn't actually do the math, it just looks online what the answer is?)

[tribal blade]

i asked it for my item level today and it gave me an average from several different websites to 717

when i'm 719

but i just asked it again and it gave me a definitive 719 this time

it's learning

[tribal blade]

yeah i noticed this too

[limpid sage]

can't wait for AI to be implemented within the WoW theorycrafting space

[tribal blade]

i've already used AI to help me make macros and WAs

[analog granite]

For some reason AI is extremely bad at game-related stuff

[limpid sage]

soon fuu won't have to touch the APL again - it'll just automatically be figured out through math

[analog granite]

Probably because builds in game can change on a daily basis and it's database just can't keep up or something

[vale pine]

hey, thats nice. I like it when people are excited over small things

[analog granite]

Yeah it was kinda nice

[tribal blade]

you should have said you won't be so excited when they become our overlords

[limpid sage]

ya same

[tribal blade]

it blew my mind how nice it was to make WAs with AI

[limpid sage]

it's true what Roberto says though - it's beyond shit at games xd

[tribal blade]

granted it gave me some steps which were wrong

so i had to figure out my way around it

[vale pine]

Ai has high potential in education, its quite good if you provide good context already

[limpid sage]

ig the training data is just limited when you get more niche

[tribal blade]

yeah! i can see that

[vale pine]

its just

you need to have very good source material

else it can easy make stuff up

which is very bad in an educational setting

[vale pine]

to be fair, midnight might be simple enough to not even require ai

[analog granite]

Chat gpt really helped me out while building my pc tho

[limpid sage]

I wonder if it would be a decent sparring partner in regards to tc if you gave it context of every single interaction within your spec

[analog granite]

Couldn't have done it without it

[vale pine]

i can create a simple program that just test 2-3 common cases via pathfinding algorithms

then simpler the game, then easier it is to automate stuff like this

[limpid sage]

I've thought about making something like that

[vale pine]

Just to be clear, i don't use ai usually

i just keep up with the changes

[analog granite]

He just admitted to using ABOMINABLE INTELLIGENCE , quick throw the stones

[vale pine]

haha

I use my own intelligence

thats why you see a lot of typos

and sometimes my dyslexia shines through and mxies up wrods (intentionally here)

[analog granite]

Brb running wowhead guide through AI-detection

[vale pine]

wowhead has a very strong anti ai stance

i wouldn't risk the use of ai at all for a guide or publication

[lilac stag]

A group strongly using AI would say that.

[analog granite]

Makes sense

[bleak night]

[analog granite]

AI shorts on youtube are bad enough, imagine AI guides

[vale pine]

I think its a legal problem zone

[supple pawn]

And this is why we can't have AI discussions -.-;;

[bleak night]

https://tenor.com/view/pearcat-melcord-pear-cat-talking-to-the-moon-angel-gif-4829756179087742724

[vale pine]

and i actually think its good that news sites keep their content human written

i hate the ai slop some news sites spit out

[lilac stag]

Living in the US has taught me legal only mean you’re fucked if you don’t have money to get you out of trouble.

[vale pine]

The rule of the stronger is big in the us

[lilac stag]

I love that the whitehouse is putting out AI shorts.

[vale pine]

it is why nintendo can patern things like monster combat or pokeballs

[lilac stag]

someone save me

[vale pine]

I think the best use is a supportive one

e.g. a youtube creator shoots a video

now its just a bit out of frame

[lilac stag]

speed clipping key moments

[vale pine]

any modern video editor has features which allow you to slightly adjust it, which was typically done by algorithms

[lilac stag]

Not recreating the truth and posting it as the truth. Hahah

[vale pine]

but often now uses spezialised models

if anyone does that

why not

thats a good use case

but generating spam or slop, is not a good use

[analog granite]

Italian brainrot was peak tho

I'd gladly sacrifice many more lakes to bring it back

[void ocean]

what is a current cap for MFO Vandals rep, does anyone know?

[short radish]

next week is +3%

[void ocean]

yea but i dont think i got 5k rep this week yet

do mythic and hc kills count as separate kills?

[short radish]

shouldnt

you might have missed a random trash mob

[void ocean]

killed first 3 mythic bosses and 7 hc bosses on my alt, went now to do Dimensius in lfr and got nothing

[short radish]

unluggy

[void ocean]

i am lvl 9 tho

[lilac stag]

this is what i'm sitting at

[void ocean]

im 0/2500 rank 9

[charred kestrel]

Any know where to find the fast flight method for dim?

[shadow lance]

wdym?

[charred kestrel]

Idk. Some said doin a different flight method for dim helped CDs line up better. Was just curious what that was.

[shadow lance]

It seems weird as fck

But I'm not on Dim MM yet so I didn't check VOD

[glad raven]

Can bump it up later with the araz kill 😉

The cap is lvl 9 currently tho so youre at max dw

[void ocean]

yup, unless my hc Araz kill on my dk doesnt already count :/

[lilac stag]

idk Stealthi usually knows tech https://youtu.be/OmbOnoJe8Mw?si=AZpmuNqGzzRsK5xV&t=199

[charred kestrel]

Ty!

[limpid sage]

nice

[lilac stag]

yep. i think i got the timestamp in there

[remote wave]

Hello, i need help 🙂
Is it worth keeping Rupture up permanently on a boss?

[ivory vigil]

so much real estate on the screen. Struggling with my 16 inch laptop monitor

[limpid sage]

what is the + thing he has in the middle of his screen

oh nvm

might just steal that idea

[charred kestrel]

That cross hair has a lot of conditionals

[lilac pendant]

Is ring a bad crafted item slot?

[lilac stag]

sim it

[limpid sage]

I've only seen a few mins of it so far, but isn't it just red when out of range

[charred kestrel]

Moves with camera also

[limpid sage]

aren't you always in the middle?

[charred kestrel]

It’s not one you get from
Wago

That one shows were your feet are.

[tepid trellis]

its anchored to the personal resource display

[limpid sage]

oh so you have to have that enabled or what

[tepid trellis]

no its hidden

[charred kestrel]

^^

[tepid trellis]

well enabled and hidden with a wa to anchor it iirc

[limpid sage]

ye exactly

I do the same with my combo points

(the hiding part)

[lilac stag]

you could just ask him to share th eWA 🙂

just like comment and subscribe to raccoon YT channel

[tepid trellis]

i need to fix my rendering settings for videos in davinci so it isnt as choppy, i was lazy and just used the 1440p yt preset

[charred kestrel]

That’s an atrocity thing unless he made one himself?

[tepid trellis]

it is his yes

[stoic pier]

Guys, what turbo boost features will be available today?

[lilac stag]

higher illv

[charred kestrel]

Thought so. Still like the edits you make to it tho.

[stoic pier]

just this? the rest is only dropping oct 21st?

[tepid trellis]

i help with making the rogue pack so i can share some stuff if i feel like it

[stoic pier]

I saw this on wowhead but the crest cap remove is not mentioned

[hazy breach]

Yeah the crest uncapping is on the 21st too

for some random reason

[lilac stag]

legion remix

i would assume

you'll be able to boost all the important items with 180 crests if you saved this weeks crests

[shadow lance]

Just transform all you others crest into gilded

[lilac stag]

why? its capped

[shadow lance]

Not the 21

[lilac stag]

today

ffs

[shadow lance]

I don't get the topic then

[lilac stag]

it matters today for people progging still

[shadow lance]

Why you would like to save these weeks then?