you devide the possible ilvls you could make by 15?
#subtlety
astral compass
fossil forge
i am 60 crests behind
tribal blade
SHEEEEESH
astral compass
i think we have 15 slots roght? im at work 😄
fossil forge
Since we are clowning hunters
tribal blade
Fury is fun in keys. Very big chill
yeah i hear it's very unga bunga
lilac stag
versa becoming good is nice as well
hollow spear
idk, 60 crests is like 0.7 ilvl?
and the good pieces are probably already upgraded anyways
north schooner
@vale pine this nightly https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc-publish/actions/runs/17704473164 (#1868 2 days) doesn't have the flag bug, and neither does https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc-publish/actions/runs/17719413094 (#1869 1 day ago). That limits the bug to commits of yesterday and 11 hours ago. So the top commit remains sus
vale pine
!aoe
wicked joltBOT
General Gist of the Aoe rotation
- At ALL target counts cast Coup de Grace when it is ready.
- At ALL target counts cast Shadowstrike during Shadow Dance, not Shuriken Storm. (unless coup is ready, !coup)
- Cast Black powder instead of regular Eviscerate at 4 or more targets (there is no other secret rule).
astral compass
lets say you got a 714 myth track item. you need 45 crests to upgrade it to 723 right?
fossil forge
It could be more than 60 im not sure atm slowly getting it back because vault drops higher ilvl items
karmic harbor
<@194804407706189824> this nightly https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc-publi...
eleem said that weekly has the flag bug
north schooner
weekly runs on monday
karmic harbor
oic
north schooner
so it already includes the top commit
astral compass
what ilvl is the rank 5 myth track?
aah 4
0,8 ilvl should be the overall deficit. I hope it was good weed at least 😄
astral compass
but could be worse. in dragonflight a mate crafted a int weapon instead of str
wasted one spark and crests with it xD
fossil forge
yea
U can completly avoid this
If u just recraft old items
always keep all crafted items 
astral compass
or smoke less dude
tribal blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/746550921412083762/1407865351441748018/Ki...
i almost threw up in my mouth a little looking at workshop again
have to say this season's dungeon pool is much less ass than last season
minus the fact that FG and priory came back
north schooner
priory is fine minus the footmen
sullen oriole
tribal blade
priory becomes a bit of a nightmare the higher in key level you go
the entire 2nd half of the dungeon it's REALLY easy to die
sullen oriole
priory is fine minus the footmen
I like those adds last boss p2 with random aggro
tribal blade
I like those adds last boss p2 with random aggro
not really an issue for rogues
you just pop evasion
and can plant
north schooner
I like those adds last boss p2 with random aggro
you mean the padding fodder?
you might want to feint their aoe too
fossil forge
i almost threw up in my mouth a little looking at workshop again
You didnt enjoy running first pull 80 times ?
sullen oriole
fossil forge
ABHHHHH
tribal blade
You didnt enjoy running first pull 80 times ?
lol yeah, enjoyed the fact they were immune to blind even more
lilac stag
@tribal blade halp!
fossil forge
Forbidden word
tribal blade
honestly the strat everyone used at the end was pretty chill, you just let 1 go off and defensived it
freed up kicks
limber folio
lol yeah, enjoyed the fact they were immune to blind even more
the worse thing is, when your group keeps complaining you cant use blind to cc all the xalaffixe orbs
when ive showed and told them 100 times
lilac stag
hunter and shaman are now duoing first boss since tank is mush brain
tribal blade
the worse thing is, when your group keeps complaining you cant use blind to cc a...
haha just go into 12s and won't have that issue 😉
gilded ferry
idk if its gear at this point
fossil forge
hate affixes
gilded ferry
how much u guys simming now
limber folio
haha just go into 12s and won't have that issue 😉
well its always like this the first week of the season, they still complain
atleast now im doing 17s wihu
fossil forge
Like 4.7
tribal blade
atleast now im doing 17s wihu
HELL yeah
i'm stuck on trying to get 17 priory and ara timed
fossil forge
17 priory hell nah
limber folio
wdym
tribal blade
been playing a lot with guildies recently
tribal blade
kinda feel like i'm getting sick of key grinding
tribal blade
u dont time ara17 at 3am?
BRO every single ara run is cursed
fossil forge
sick of key grinding until the key withdrawals come
limber folio
BRO every single ara run is cursed
false
little epoch
priory is fine minus the footmen
you mean minus the CATS
little epoch
ppl die so randomly on these shitters
tribal blade
"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PLAY AROUND THIS SLOW EXCEPT REROLL TO A DIFFERENT CLASS FUCK YOU BLIZZ"
he was playing prot warr and died to the slow
before last boss
fossil forge
You guys ever burst adds on second boss in halls so they boom Exactly at the same time
gilded ferry
idk
fossil forge
And wipe everyone
tribal blade
maybe im missing gear to break into orange parses?
yes you're missing like 4ish ilvl on most people atm i think
i'm 713 atm and that's not very impressive ilvl
tribal blade
i could be one of those guys if i got raid loot smile
actually would prob be more like 714-15 maybe
fossil forge
gilded ferry
oh yeah, i might be fucked on that end since i do not raid mythic
stuck on 1 myth track item per week
tribal blade
oh yeah, i might be fucked on that end since i do not raid mythic
it's very easy to do 2/8M this season
there's 0 danger pugging it
because the 1st boss is harder than soulbinder
gilded ferry
ill try this reset
tribal blade
so if the group can kill 1st boss then you're guaranteed 2nd
gilded ferry
soulbinder is 2nd in mythic?
fossil forge
I saw some pugs going 4/8
fossil forge
Those were full of stacked people though
tribal blade
stupid easy
gilded ferry
why skip loom though
fossil forge
You get loot from him If you kill soulbinder
tribal blade
loom is much harder than soulbinder
gilded ferry
oh rly?
tribal blade
yeah loom has specific assignments and stuff
gilded ferry
its so free on hc i though it was as well in myth
tribal blade
soulbinder is just use half your brain and boss dies
tribal blade
the main mythic change on loom is you have to soak these beams shooting to the boss
you need to do some immune soaking too
which i do with cloak
fossil forge
U can solosoak
tribal blade
it takes some coordination
fossil forge
chilling
tribal blade
also much easier to die on loom than soulbinder
tepid trellis
Dimmy is more frustrating to play
gilded ferry
stealthi, record more povs for your youtube channel
fossil forge
I enjoy sending cds into my guildies
gilded ferry
people are begging for it
tepid trellis
There would have been a Nexus King one but my file Got corrupted
native zodiac
I want to leave saladbar jail but dimmy jail is next up
Dim is a goated boss tbh
fossil forge
Is charrend cooking
plush roost
Nah this was a cook by someone else im pretty sure
fossil forge
Finna run some keys with ur talents when i get home
plush roost
I tried it with brew but shadowcraft goes brrr
tepid trellis
Dim is a goated boss tbh
Banned. Thats illegal to say about a boss with multiple dmg stops
plush roost
Banned. Thats illegal to say about a boss with multiple dmg stops
Simply have your guild not do enough damage 5head
tribal blade
Simply have your guild not do enough damage 5head
hey that's my guild
plush roost
My guilds going into it with a full vault and vantus next week. Got to p2 in 40 pulls last thursday
The damage stops are going to be real...
plush roost
Platforms
tribal blade
ahhh
plush roost
U dont wanna go too fast because everyones cds will desync
tribal blade
mmm makes sense
you go into the next one with nothing up
and then go into burn phase with nothing up
i'm assuming
plush roost
Yep
tribal blade
gotcha
plush roost
Really wanna phase to p3 after the push
native zodiac
Banned. Thats illegal to say about a boss with multiple dmg stops
Honestly liked the dmg stops
graceful osprey
Ladies and gentlemen, good luck on vault today
native zodiac
Free sht stacks + coup prep
fossil forge
Na people 
fossil forge
I wish my vault was today
tribal blade
32 deaths is madness
lilac stag
Na people <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
Aussies
tepid trellis
Honestly liked the dmg stops
also nice sneaky lil 1:18am kill 
gz tho
vagrant sinew
native zodiac
No splits wr 50 though
fossil forge
Anyone peeping the nepal situation
gilded ferry
short radish
Aussies
???????????
im not taking oce slander
after the americans ive just played with
north schooner
fast iron
someone dropped heroic tier hands on soulbinder; but he has champ track. i have 675 hands and he said he cant trade.
is he lying or is it because its a token that he has champ track for and he won the loot for a heroic?
short radish
champ track and its heroic
fast iron
for fucks sake
it was a 50-50 i made a raid and i was like "ok the tank has champ track.."
"surely i can win 1 person"
apparently not
fast iron
literally the one item he has champ btw
ebon oyster
alpine wraith
he bamboozled you
round plover
I'm doing hard mode taz for the first time ever as rogue in general today (especially sub), any tips for me to not grief my group completely?
sullen yarrow
use cheat death
alpine wraith
you can kidney many casters
round plover
roger that
solemn creek
I'm doing hard mode taz for the first time ever as rogue in general today (espec...
Vanish cloak evasion and heartstone every boss
U wont be reliable for death
gilded ferry
dont forget feint
vale pine
You can stack up prism before bosses if your team let's you
sullen yarrow
fuu
quiet zenith
can hold on coup too
fleet wharf
the command you want is !log
viral patrol
hi any top 50 parser here
u can always ask @tepid trellis
sullen yarrow
omg i want any good rogue to give me a hand i have no money for cosching
viral patrol
he helps as often as he can
sullen yarrow
and i have raid tonifht on a 6/8 guild
that im going as sub
u alredy mentioned him so im not gonna bother hope he see this
native zodiac
Youre better off just asking what you want to know here, im sure someone will give you an answer
sullen yarrow
i dont have like actual questions i have some basics and i dont know what to ask
i just wanna send a log i sented on hc testing rotation
fleet wharf
!mistakes
wicked joltBOT
Here are some common mistakes and how to spot them in your logs:
- Go into your log, press Timelines and Casts to the right like this
- Every single Flagellation & Blades window should look like the opener in this picture. Coup, shadowstrikes and eviscerates can move around a bit depending on procs, but all the other spells should be used exactly like this.
- Make sure you always get 8 globals off during your shadow dances. You can hover over your shadow dances to see the exact times they start, and then see if your 8th spell is within 8 seconds of that.
- If your shadow dance and/or symbols wasnt ready in time to be used like in the picture above you used too many in between your burst.
fleet wharf
start there. if you have more specific questions, use !log
native zodiac
I can take a glance at it in a bit if you want
slender thistle
man i am really struggling to get to grips with sub. plz somebody tell me it is harder to understand than assa and that im not just dumb 🤣
fleet wharf
man i am really struggling to get to grips with sub. plz somebody tell me it is ...
I think the initial barrier to entry may be higher than assa, but I do think sub is pretty straightforward once you finally understand how the cd phases come together
sullen yarrow
ill have a lot of mistakes i started playing sub 3 days ago
never played it
i know in that logged i missed de backstab
i shoulda used bacjstab without shadow blades
i did know it before, so i save someone telling me
fleet wharf
you shouldn't send CB with the first sectech
sullen yarrow
so the 2nd
fleet wharf
review the !mistakes bit up there first
azure thicket
we got mythic plexus today, kept wasting a dance charge going into shadowblades tho
native zodiac
Just took a quick peek at it, cb first st is bad, you also only had 1 dance for your 1:30 cds set bc you sent 3 dances between your cooldowns
Thats a big problem
azure thicket
is there a rule of thumb for not dancing? sometimes i do it at 40 sec and get away with it but ye is there like a wa timer or something
sullen yarrow
!mistakes
wicked joltBOT
Here are some common mistakes and how to spot them in your logs:
- Go into your log, press Timelines and Casts to the right like this
- Every single Flagellation & Blades window should look like the opener in this picture. Coup, shadowstrikes and eviscerates can move around a bit depending on procs, but all the other spells should be used exactly like this.
- Make sure you always get 8 globals off during your shadow dances. You can hover over your shadow dances to see the exact times they start, and then see if your 8th spell is within 8 seconds of that.
- If your shadow dance and/or symbols wasnt ready in time to be used like in the picture above you used too many in between your burst.
sullen yarrow
tokin
do u hace a reminder
or a cd u will se before thinking about sending a shadow dance
see*
native zodiac
Just a rule of thumb for you as someone new
Only 2 dances between cds
Anything more then that i would skip for now
sullen yarrow
so after using 2 shadow dances i just backstab
azure thicket
we did get mythic plexus doe
sullen yarrow
until my next set of cds
fleet wharf
some WA packs come with estimators too for how many dance and symbols you'll have up by flag comes off cd
native zodiac
so after using 2 shadow dances i just backstab
Yes
sullen yarrow
1 question im
azure thicket
Anything more then that i would skip for now
could you explain the skip for now bit? it sounds like there's some extra thing that could be said there
sullen yarrow
is this reliable, i mean if good rogues are doing this or is just a suggestion that is better than what in doing
fleet wharf
is there a rule of thumb for not dancing? sometimes i do it at 40 sec and get aw...
when Flag comes off cd, you want to at the very minimum have 1 charge of dance up and at most 40 sec of cd left on your 2nd dance charge
that guarantees you can have 2 dances up for your flag window. sometimes you may want to save up more so you can triple dance with flag
sullen yarrow
i just want a set up a tank 50 parse atleast i know i can do it just wanna get stuff the best way
sullen yarrow
that guarantees you can have 2 dances up for your flag window. sometimes you may...
thank you
that was what i needed
native zodiac
could you explain the skip for now bit? it sounds like there's some extra thing ...
Mostly dependant on the fight, but you can often send a naked symbol between cds aswell
sullen yarrow
i should have 1 dance and 40 sec of the other one
atkeast for my next set of cds
1 question i see everytime before sending flag u build full combo points it is that only on opener?
or i do the same at my 2’nd set
fleet wharf
you want to activate flag with full combo points saved up
read what it does. it gets stronger the more cps you spend
sullen yarrow
rupture should i reapply at 8 seconds
sullen yarrow
read what it does. it gets stronger the more cps you spend
yes i jnew that
hazy breach
There is nothing special about the opener
sullen yarrow
i just wanted to know if its the same
hazy breach
Every single burst should look exactly like the opener
sullen yarrow
so its everytime backstab first global in dqnce
hazy breach
(besides the first shadow strike, but you should be at full cp when you flag)
sullen yarrow
never shadowstrike
o i can shadowstrike and the backstab after i secret tech
or is something behin the use od that backstab
fleet wharf
you should reread the guides first, I think there's a lot of gaps in your knowledge atm
sullen yarrow
do we have any videos
fleet wharf
shidigw has one
sullen yarrow
ok
slender thistle
would i be worth macroing flagellation and shadow blades together or are there situations you would use one without the other? (brand new to sub sorry)
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
We do not recommend macroing your cooldowns together because most of them result in performance losses compared to using them manually.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key as well.
fleet wharf
would i be worth macroing flagellation and shadow blades together or are there s...
flag and sb have diff buff durations, so if you press them together, you're losing valuable uptime on your cds, and that's really bad because like 70% of our damage happens in that cd phase
sullen yarrow
the guide is from 5 months ago
slender thistle
ahh i see. good to know
slender thistle
__Subtlety Macros:__
We do not recommend macroing your cooldowns together becaus...
ty
oooh so you are using flag then SD for premed and then shadow blades
is that correct?
fleet wharf
well you want to build up flag as quickly as possible because it's the biggest damage amp we have, Shadowblades is nice, but premed basically gives you a "free" refill which is what SB does too. Think of it more as we're using premed to delay pressing SB as much as possible so the damage overlap lasts as long as possible
lilac stag
im not taking oce slander
You will take it and enjoy it… mate!
We had more deaths in a 7 DB than I’ve had I think the entire season in DB. 
fleet wharf
try healing those 💀
lilac stag
tank blamed the healer. I asked him 1. Please hold aggro. 2. MF shaman isn’t going to be able to heal the lock and hunter when they’ve decided to stand at opposite ends of the gdamn boat at 40 yards from him.
healer why are you oom again?
Tank: can you press stagger?
fleet wharf
I love hunters that never press defensives and don't stand in healing rain or other similar abilities
But seriously though, hunter io don't mean shit
lilac stag
dude though he was SV on last boss. Couldn’t be bothered to get bombs
fleet wharf
oh yea, that's fun too lmao. did you finish that key?
lilac stag
6 crests later….
fleet wharf
just do that 10 more times and you can craft your first weapon
lilac stag
figured I may as well gear something else as the inevitable raid nerfs and other spec tunings make subs usefulness dwindle
lilac stag
just do that 10 more times and you can craft your first weapon
already filled vault and weapon. Have 150 crests.
upper narwhal
dude though he was SV on last boss. Couldn’t be bothered to get bombs
had a mage blink in to melee to pick up a bomb on my DK alt, i decided that the one in ranged was not getting picked up
lilac stag
couldn’t see the other bombs… out in ranged area of the ship
upper narwhal
low keys are insane, you never know what you might end up with
cinder bolt
i havnt seen low keys this bad in 10 years
lilac stag
9 flood gate. Thoughts and prayers please.
cinder bolt
then i saw some graphj where 70% of runs were +10 or above
upper narwhal
even weekly 12s felt like a complete gamble this week
lilac stag
I wonder what route we’re doing.
karmic harbor
low keys are insane, you never know what you might end up with
did a 10 dawnbreaker and someone didnt know what to do with the green wave
just kept hitting the whole group
idk if he was trolling or what
short radish
You will take it and enjoy it… mate!
placid crown
is it bad to macro tea with sectec ?
wicked joltBOT
Thistle tea use:
It is recommended to macro Thistle Tea with Shadow Dance like this:
/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```
sinful depot
I unmacro’d my tea as it allows for greater situational control
In keys..
You want that extra mastery on big pulls with cds and if you macro to tea you won’t have two charges in your cd windows, just something to consider
Have to be careful not to autoproc as well inbetween bursts
Here’s something I’m doing wrong.. at the start of a big pull with full cds, are people building flagellation stacks before sending cds and if so how long/how many stacks? Usually I spread 4 ruptures and the send but I could be missing out on a lot of damage
north schooner
I macro my tea to my shadow dance backstab for ultimate control 
sinful depot
For ease you mean 🙂
sinful depot
I did that for awhile too. But in keys your playing around big bursts and if your sending a 4th tea on your 4th dance, that’s a tea you won’t have in your CD’s when the tank goes and does the giga chad pull.
swift tinsel
Tea is a meme, people like the vigor part and think the mastery is the big gain
You’ll have charges for your opener then a few dances here and there
limpid prawn
Hello friends, is there anything specific to watch out for in the raid on sub? I've only played it in m+ and I'm going to have my first trial raid in a decade tomorrow 
swift tinsel
It’s like tfd
sinful depot
Yeah just a situational thing, if your struggling with binds you can macro and fire and forget but if you want to optimise to the route.. you should go manual
swift tinsel
You won’t have it all the time but you can game it a bit
Eh manual tea sounds like not worth the squeeze
You don’t gain anything playing around not proccing
sinful depot
+16% mastery with cds is kinda big though
hazy breach
Holding your globals outside to make sure you dont proc it kinda offsets the extra damage you'd get from using it with cds
swift tinsel
Not when you already have a fuckton of mastery from gear and flag
hazy breach
So its really whatever
sinful depot
Disagree
hazy breach
Its like 6% more finisher damage or so
swift tinsel
You can but the numbers don’t really agree with that sentiment
sinful depot
Procing outside of cds.. outside of dance
lilac stag
sinful depot
whilst there is a few mobs leftover
hazy breach
Turns out youre also inside dance
sinful depot
Is wasteful
hazy breach
I mean ofc proccing it right as the mobs dies is silly
swift tinsel
Yeah realistically you should be prepping for the next pull at that point
fossil forge
@plush roost did you try the talents but with cb
lilac stag
who would have though wasting resources would be bad
queen plinth
so if im not giving a single look at tea and actually waste the charges without preping, going cb would be better?
hazy breach
No it doesnt matter
queen plinth
cause im shuriken storming bping the shit out of packs even on low energy
swift tinsel
Yeah I feel like vigor is what people actually like about the tea build but don’t realize it
hazy breach
Yes and the extra cdr you get from being able to do that more with tea is also fine
short radish
yeah tbh i do miss the extra energy a bit
lilac stag
Yeah I feel like vigor is what people actually like about the tea build but don’...
people tend to focus on the wrong things
short radish
for the free feints
swift tinsel
people tend to focus on the wrong things
tepid trellis
people tend to focus on the wrong things
watch me shiv and cheapshot for that juicy 12% more dam
lilac stag
watch me shiv and cheapshot for that juicy 12% more dam
Giga-Zap!
swift tinsel
Bro if you don’t end dance with 12 DM stacks what are you even doing
lilac stag
What if I only have FW on 8 of the 11 mobs?!?! Clearly rotten is better.
swift tinsel
queen plinth
how are people bursting 40-50 mil tho? 🙂 im bursting like 28 maybe 30 in pull after priory first boss with 18 stacks of prism 🙂
lilac stag
get mythic prism
tepid trellis
cuz they got more aura than you
queen plinth
pressed burst correctly
sinful depot
@queen plinth let me know bro!
I feel its flag stacks before cds
lilac stag
BP more
tepid trellis
proc more coups
hollow spear
Burst ≠ the number at the end of a pull
sinful depot
And pre farm shadowy technique stacks by going afk and not pressing finishes 9 seconds prior to flag
lilac stag
Press black arrow more
sinful depot
To allow free refunds pewpewpew in cds
tepid trellis
bursting 60 or so mil just comes down to getting a bit lucky with coups while playing properly
short radish
need to do a cheap shot for that extra DM stack
tepid trellis
thats all there really is too it
short radish
someone post the hidden fuu opener
lilac stag
Love me some rng mixed into backstab soup
sinful depot
Its true on mythic forgeweaver rekill last night on one pull i had coup for like every set of adds and was doing 9.5m by the end of first intermission
tepid trellis
it also like if you are doing shitter keys (weekly keys)
its just about sniping all of the useless adds first
short radish
yeah
fossil forge
need opinions
fossil forge
finna go try it out
queen plinth
im running 15s 🙁 and my overall sucks ass
graceful rock
finna go try it out
Take goremaws, trust 💯
queen plinth
i mean atleast the 15 halls i was kinda even with that shit meta bm moron
queen plinth
like in this priory
bro LIKE HOW
lilac stag
doing dmg is ethical
queen plinth
im leaving priory with 8 mil max
radiant patio
like in this priory
not schizo
fathom adder
when do you walk out to keep prism stacks?
tepid trellis
key gets put in
lilac stag
They key is to delete the mobs before other Dps can Dps
tepid trellis
yep
tepid trellis
atleast you could 6 days ago when i tried it
short radish
im doing that from now on
fossil forge
still works
fathom adder
ty
tepid trellis
bro LIKE HOW
press 1-2-3 correctly and be 717 with mythic trinkets
weak hamlet
Guys how good is sub prio dmg? Cause i see ppl say they pump evis but when i do it and check details its kinda… mid
hazy breach
Its fine
queen plinth
how do you guys deal with short dances and your coup proqs do you send coup inside dance and 4 set coup outside?
fathom adder
i think they removed the storm -> evi funnel end of bfa, maybe SL. Not so sure anymore
queen plinth
cause thats what happens for me a lot
tepid trellis
i think they removed the storm -> evi funnel end of bfa, maybe SL. Not so sure a...
start of BFA
autumn flame
arcane basically has shuriken combo
short radish
fuck mages
lilac stag
i think they removed the storm -> evi funnel end of bfa, maybe SL. Not so sure a...
Zul is the answer
shrewd lantern
fuck mages
amen
lilac stag
Guys how good is sub prio dmg? Cause i see ppl say they pump evis but when i do ...
get better coup procs to pump evis(priority)
lilac stag
anyone playing rogue is stuck in 2018
short radish
shuriken combo my beloved
short radish
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lilac stag
my guy my brain has no room for that useless of information
short radish
my guy my brain has no room for that useless of information
dratnos spire of ascension pug routes 
lilac stag
does any dungeon actaully need more than W?
shrewd lantern
No
shrewd lantern
gonna be real with you chief
short radish
well it depends
lilac stag
priort has some weird left and right shit
short radish
are you talking weekly 10s
shrewd lantern
anytime someone linked a dratnos route in a pug key
short radish
or high keys
shrewd lantern
that was an instant leave
lilac stag
i wish I was high running keys. would be more enjoyable
short radish
it's not
lilac stag
maybe need crack then
swift tinsel
I’ve been running mostly guild keys and being high for those would be a blast
short radish
i wish I was high running keys. would be more enjoyable
https://www.twitch.tv/krystalbella/clip/BetterDeterminedEndiveMVGame-y3uUBROct9v1fYOX
my healer last night sitting at 67% health
dying to the beam
and then not timing it by 12 seconds
lilac stag
694 warlock complaining in the 9 for tank to either pull more or not. 
shrewd lantern
Healers when you tell them to do their job:
short radish
can't even heal themselves
swift tinsel
The funny ones don’t have their own unit frame in party and forget to heal themselves
short radish
lilac stag
dying to the beam
usually if you're first, it's not coming towards you
short radish
you still get damaged by it
lilac stag
mmhm
short radish
as evidenced by the dead shaman
lilac stag
which is the funny part
lilac stag
ok, which is the real one?
shrewd lantern
ankh is the best defensive
lilac stag
until you didn't math the death cost into the timer
short radish
and then not timing it by 12 seconds
^
i mean
we had other scuffed moments in there
like 3 people dying at dragon boss on 3% health
and then people being bolted
lilac stag
that's frustrating, but it's like the kid playing goalie. everyone else fucked up, but you're still screwed
play perfect after everyone else screwed up
short radish
yeah
idk im just still salty about 3 keys being bricked in a row
warcraft recorder isnt doing good things for me
being able to review makes me madder and more toxic
lilac stag
have you thought about going outside and playing RL borderlands?
short radish
guns illegal in australia
short radish
in my keys yes
lilac stag
it's like prophet's feral
short radish
fdk dmg is low is it not?
look at my FDKs overall in this
short radish
what lua error?
upper narwhal
fdk is so braindead easy idk how you can not do damage on it
short radish
what is the dk doing? Mate turn on one button
he died 5 seconds into 3/5 pulls
lilac stag
what lua error?
“Fatality” is bug sack going off
lilac stag
Bug sack has me trained
short radish
i mean i probably do have lua errors
lilac stag
To twitch when that goes off
short radish
my entire UI and WAs is an absolute and utter dumpster
lilac stag
WHERE ARE MY FRAMES GOING?!!!
short radish
im surprised no one has given me shit for having my raidframes on the right
lilac stag
You’re upside down so they’re actually left
short radish
thorny moss
been ages since I played rogue, we still want shadowstrike and backstab on separate buttons?
short radish
been ages since I played rogue, we still want shadowstrike and backstab on separ...
kinda yeah but also if you dont want to it's fine
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance/Tea Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow Dance /castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, nullThis will cast Shadow Dance and Tea(if talented) on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
short radish
can also have that
short radish
if youre used to it th en keep doing it
i have them on separate binds
the optimisation is there for dance -> backstab (to consume premed) -> sectech
lilac stag
likely just need dance+bs separate and leave bs/strike as an auto switch
thorny moss
astral axle
healers are ill
they whine and complain when their jobs are easy because they never get to heal
short radish
healers are ill
never trust a tank + healer combo in key
astral axle
never trust a tank + healer combo in key
oh no absolutely not
that's how you get into a cursed throuple
short radish
yeah i just learnt that the hard way
astral axle
😭 🫂
rocky ocean
Can’t wait for them to add leaver penalty to raid
And needing 19 votes to go through
short radish
hate watched the vod to hear the tank going "its not all your fault, it's also the rest of the partys fault. all melee comp is terrible and i also hate rogues because i need to wait for them to stealth. i'm never playing with a rogue again"
which hes kinda right it being also everyone elses fault because of the other wipes before
but also
never again
astral axle
short aurora
If someone has 20 more ub procs than me in a 5 min fight am i unlucky with tierset procs or Wrong rotation
20 Sounds like alot
short radish
If someone has 20 more ub procs than me in a 5 min fight am i unlucky with tiers...
yeah delete rogue
and remake it
you rolled a bad rng seed on that char
short radish
yeah just proc more
short aurora
And i cant pinpoint anything else then gg go next no luck
slender thistle
on big packs (like the first pull in FG) how many ruptures am i wanting to chuck out roughly? and do i apply them all before going in to burst window?
hazy breach
They casted 2 more sectech
Which is 4 more procs
But ye the remianing 16 are just luck
short radish
on big packs (like the first pull in FG) how many ruptures am i wanting to chuck...
generally with any big pull
short aurora
Ye i figured
short radish
i do 1 rupture
max 2
before flag -> rupture
because everything is gatherd by then
lilac stag
Once it’s gathered, u best be blasting
lilac stag
@short radish what are you needing from vault?
short radish
mythic prism but that's not going to drop since we extended
so i'll take mythic taz shoulders
or a ring
lilac stag
short radish
Extending stinky
extended after one night of saladbar
because RL didnt trust us to reclear (hes kinda right)
lilac stag
I think it’s either heroic forge or shoulders/antenna mythic
maybe alpha
It’s a weird vault this week
karmic harbor
because RL didnt trust us to reclear (hes kinda right)
lowkey i want my guild to extend too
lilac stag
We should have had 3 more bosses on loot table, but dumb shit happens
short radish
lowkey i want my guild to extend too
if you're a borderline hall of fame (shame) guild
karmic harbor
but idk we have a big roster so ig a lot of ppl just wouldnt play for 2 weeks or smn
lilac stag
Our roster is too big
shrewd lantern
hate watched the vod to hear the tank going "its not all your fault, it's also t...
bro thinks hes gonna slide in the dms
short radish
lilac stag
short radish
passenger princesses man.
but yeah about 40 pulls of these are prenerf
and even still
after 1-2 nights of prog post nerf
guilds still struggling
because looking at ghosts are hard
lilac stag
warm marlin
Ghosts do be lethal
short radish
arcane mages and not channeling arcane missles during ghosts
difficulty: extremely hard
lilac stag
short radish
hurr durr ranged gets all the mechanics melee have it easy
yeah because ranged do nothing for 95% of the fight
so they get forced to acutally press a movement ability key
wary plover
???
short radish
new tech
wary plover
i lost 100k dps
short radish
yeah its bugged or something
steel jolt
new bug fix just dropped
craggy prairie
!guides
astral axle
Okay hear me out. I think we've been thinking about the number of ruptures to apply on opener before CDs in the wrong way. Because if we look at rupture (7 letters) and cooldown (8 letters) we get 15 letters. 1+5 = 6. Six is the number of secret preparation. But what's the sacred midpoint of 6? 3. And what's 3? a trinity.
QED, you apply the trinity of ruptures in order to open the Waygate of Optimal Damage. One rupture for the body (physical, representing the damage of the bleed); one rupture for the mind (mental, the path needed to execute the opener); one rupture for the unseen (spiritual, representing the sloth, the tank who is still gathering).
Then -- and only then -- you burst. 😤
misty hedge
Is it optimal to save a cupdegra proc if my SB is coming up in 15-20seconds?
short radish
Is it optimal to save a cupdegra proc if my SB is coming up in 15-20seconds?
!coup
wicked joltBOT
Coup de Grace Optimizations:
- **Number 1: **You can stop using finishers ~10 seconds before your Flagellation comes up on Single Target. This is to build up Shadow Techniques for your cooldowns.
- Number 2: ONLY with the 4 set of the new tier! -- During Shadow Blades or with 4+ targets, if you have the 4 set buff active and need to build combo points you can use Shuriken Storm to not proc Unseen Blade before using your 2nd Coup.
- Explanation: The Tier Set buff does not allow new applications of the Unseen Blades stacks, so any Unseen Blades procs between the 2 Coup casts would be wasted, this small adjustment prevents that from happening.
leaden prairie
because looking at ghosts are hard
Should have done kyveza ??
short radish
Should have done kyveza ??
If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.
This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.
If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 25 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.
You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.
And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.
So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.
dropped that again before the boss
i half meant it as a joke
but also kinda serious
lilac stag
> If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a ...
Swap to tank spec. Enable 1 button rotation and good to go.
strange chasm
collecting them like candy
short radish
(yes it was rolled back)
honestly not a terrible vault considering it's only m+ options
i could take the ring or dagger
astral axle
kinda sick to get the ring
short radish
yeah
but dagger is acutally useful for prog
i think im holding until nexus king dies tonight 
thorny moss
what's the deal with playing Thistle vs Cold Blood
short radish
and if dagger doesnt drop from there
i take dagger
because 3 ilvl on dagger is still like 1% dps upgrade or something
i think
astral axle
yeah that's what it was for me. a lil over 1%
Not a bad vault 
I forgot to turn on my computer so I could remote in to check my vault while at work
slate lantern
what's the deal with playing Thistle vs Cold Blood
Tea = slightly more aoe, cb = slightly more st
short radish
woooo reset
thorny moss
Tea = slightly more aoe, cb = slightly more st
cheers
astral axle
and i'm still hating myself b/c last week I passed on mythic tier legs because I got an outlaw weapon and I thought "sure how bad could outlaw feel rn?"
leaden prairie
i half meant it as a joke
Ye I mean, if people had done the fight
leaden prairie
The ghost mechanic on Nexus king is piss easy compared to kyveza
short radish
took like 2 or 300+ pulls though
short radish
yeah that's what it was for me. a lil over 1%
yeah 1.2
still feels like a hold angle since we're not reclearing
maiden oar
not bad
shadow lance
Wtf am I watching?
maiden oar
we love mega medalion (probably sims still running)
short radish
gzgz
north schooner
why are you running bugged sims?
maiden oar
i wanna stop extending i miss raid vault
shadow lance
@leaden prairie How you so high mate?
hazy breach
Just get loot
vestal escarp
Splits funnel i guess
short radish
imagone doing spl*ts
warm marlin
<@352916297262301194> How you so high mate?
Bro spent extra gilded upgrading an outlaw weapon and still that high 
hushed roost
slate lantern
Bro spent extra gilded upgrading an outlaw weapon and still that high <:BASED:93...
Skill diff frfr
hushed roost
sadge
leaden prairie
<@352916297262301194> How you so high mate?
I should be higher I got unlucky this week..
short radish
shadow lance
Stop flex
hazy breach
But yeah just kill raid bosses
shadow lance
weirdo
hazy breach
Get 717 loot from vault
leaden prairie
But ye
hazy breach
Saves lots of crests
leaden prairie
That's that
shadow lance
Indeed
shadow lance
It make sense
leaden prairie
I got 3 vaults 717 already
You can't imagine how much crests that is
It's crazy
short radish
You can't imagine how much crests that is
slightly hot take but i dislike they made this c hange
warm marlin
Surely mythic prism will be waiting for me when I get home
warm marlin
So I get it before dimmy dies
short radish
the rng variance between people is even further because of it
slate lantern
Harvesters Edict the GOAT???
warm marlin
shadow lance
And I didn't spend any gilded on items that were under 714 basically
Okay, it helps
short radish
like im out here 713 ilvl
shadow lance
Yes, with the crest cap, it's even more rng to get high ilvl fast
shadow lance
I'm here with my 713
short radish
and didnt reclear or something
shadow lance
Cuz only good stuff was M+ vault and not M raid
warm marlin
I’ve taken raid vault every single week and only 715
short radish
4 ilvl diff same week is kinda huge this early
warm marlin
It is what it is
shadow lance
Good players get good loots
warm marlin
Real
short radish
leaden prairie
and ive had to send into heroic loot as well
Ye that's unlucky
I just got lucky
I barely got anything from raid
short radish
just crit
leaden prairie
Vaults are just op
shadow lance
Yes, but you need to kill higher tier bosses for high ilvl loot
So you need to be good
You see what I mean?
short radish
also true
hushed roost
does it matter if stonebound is on mh or oh?
short radish
does it matter if stonebound is on mh or oh?
no
leaden prairie
Noob
shadow lance
I'll be full stuff on tournament realm
short radish
WE HAD 2 HOURS TO KILL IT
shadow lance
EZ
fossil forge
O hell nah bro how u progress backwards
short radish
O hell nah bro how u progress backwards
OCE things
shadow lance
He didn't
short radish
nah sorted by boss %
north schooner
it's ordered by %
short radish
thats by date
shadow lance
It's just order by %
fossil forge
Oh
north schooner
one more guy to say it
slate lantern
It's order just % by
short radish
we confirmed he was stupid
karmic harbor
same
lilac stag
OCE things
short radish
lilac stag
too much finger apm from fury
karmic harbor
nah sorted by boss %
i raise you, forgeweaver reclear
karmic harbor
(after this we switched to putting adds behind puddles)
short radish
us when we do the lust on pull strat except this time we dont have vantus from vers and half the raid taking sockets from vault
yes that 15% wipe was 15.1%
vagrant fulcrum
WE HAD 2 HOURS TO KILL IT
not the brainless wa boss smh
genuinely this shit would be easier to pug than loomithar
short radish
yeah
well
people still need to not die
and healers need to stay awake to heal
so its kinda hard ig
¯_(ツ)_/¯
chrome palm
might be socket week unironically
short radish
warm marlin
The ring though 
short radish
i hope you step on a puddle while you're wearing socks
chrome palm
already 2x myth ring, not using antenna on dimmy, and could craft neck
short radish
already 2x myth ring, not using antenna on dimmy, and could craft neck
yeah but thats minus 3 ilvl
warm marlin
Are the head/boots not free crest upgrades either?
minor sonnet
Anyone have thoughts on double on use trinkets? Have hero NP currently and Araz myth in vault. Lot of top parses are using both., but any reasons not to take?
chrome palm
got crest save from hm taz for hero boots 🙈
warm marlin
Bro juiced
short radish
Anyone have thoughts on double on use trinkets? Have hero NP currently and Araz ...
good for last 2 bosses
chrome palm
nvm neck is juiced
short radish
kinda fun as well because you can stack prism even more
and bigger numbers active even more neurons in brian
warm marlin
ty mr australian man
I need this for dimmy p3 so I can do 60% of the damage of a bm hunter
karmic harbor
are you on dimmy?
warm marlin
this is my one and only shot at myth prism or boots in vault
same situation
azure thicket
i feel like getting the myth m+ belt is better future proofing rather than getting a myth head, they both drop off plexus anyway
what a 😐 vault
compact meadow
Did something change with raidbots and Sims? Cause i would swear I was simming 200k higher as sub yesterday
crystal bone
are you on dimmy?
me? we are on demon hunters, but we recleared and got fract. so fract loot table includes demon hunters
so i have 2 slots
karmic harbor
extending on soul hunters thats crazy
crystal bone
probably true
karmic harbor
i asked my rl and we arent extending till nexus king dies, we got to him last week
neon frigate
!addons
ebon oyster
a lot but also getting buff today/tommorow and in 3 weeks takes care of that
karmic harbor
and whatever nerfs blizzard do
ebon oyster
they just did nerfs on last 2 bosses so doubt we are seeing more of those
maybe soulhunters are gonna get some small nerf dont know how lower ranked guilds handle that boss
crystal bone
its definitely the meme boss
the raid comp we have to bring consists of 3 melee
i dont mind it since im one of the 3 melee
our only mechanic is that pickup green soaks thing
rest is just dodge
or stick to ur tether buddy
fair stump
I already have a hero crystal, should I take the myth one?
queen plinth
how does it work to keep prism stacks
he puts key in while pulltimer i go out and then join after wall is gone?
ebon oyster
yes
queen plinth
kk
tender frost
Did something change with raidbots and Sims? Cause i would swear I was simming 2...
same actually
ebon oyster
and then you reenter when bubble is gone
queen plinth
"put in" as in he oput the key in the thig but didnt start yet?
queen plinth
so he starts i go out and reenter when wall is down?
ebon oyster
yes
queen plinth
kk
fathom adder
anyone else having the problem only in gambit that it takes ages to get rif of that "white mist" after transitioning to the next station (after titandude and pirate drake)
i can walk and attack but only see the white stuff for like 30 seconds
compact meadow
same actually
at least i'm not the only one, i thought i was going crazy
tender frost
yea latest sim is 200k less for some reason
warm marlin
The robot has developed a love for rupture spamming
tender frost
The robot has developed a love for rupture spamming
remote rapids
!wa
wicked joltBOT
warm marlin
Yes not the best blades window I’ve ever seen
obsidian crag
question:
if i dont have shadow blades active, but i have shadow dance active, should i use use coup during dance window or best to wave shadowstrike > black powder and just use coup outside dance?
north schooner
they are aware of that bug btw
tender frost
question:
if i dont have shadow blades active, but i have shadow dance active,...
coup in dance
obsidian crag
so coup is prio always?
karmic harbor
!aoe
wicked joltBOT
General Gist of the Aoe rotation
- At ALL target counts cast Coup de Grace when it is ready.
- At ALL target counts cast Shadowstrike during Shadow Dance, not Shuriken Storm. (unless coup is ready, !coup)
- Cast Black powder instead of regular Eviscerate at 4 or more targets (there is no other secret rule).
tender frost
so coup is prio always?
sectec prio over coup
north schooner
so coup is prio always?
if it's outlaw that confuses you, sub doesn't follow outlaw rules for coup. You do most of your damage in dances, so you coup in dances if you can't sectec. You even save coup if your CDs are approaching
fair stump
I already have a hero crystal, should I take the myth one?
bump
proven plover
rancid crow
Im trying to sim my vault drops, and its my first time. I'm a little lost, does anybody have a link to a guide or something so I could teach myself how to do this>
rancid crow
tysm!
shadow mason
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
We do not recommend macroing your cooldowns together because most of them result in performance losses compared to using them manually.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key as well.
unkempt drum
if it's outlaw that confuses you, sub doesn't follow outlaw rules for coup. You ...
So we only coup outside of a dance if it would otherwise expire, right?
void epoch
can i check, what do you do if you proc a coup with no dance charges availabe, do you send it or bp until you can dance & symbol
quaint lodge
!coup
wicked joltBOT
Coup de Grace Optimizations:
- **Number 1: **You can stop using finishers ~10 seconds before your Flagellation comes up on Single Target. This is to build up Shadow Techniques for your cooldowns.
- Number 2: ONLY with the 4 set of the new tier! -- During Shadow Blades or with 4+ targets, if you have the 4 set buff active and need to build combo points you can use Shuriken Storm to not proc Unseen Blade before using your 2nd Coup.
- Explanation: The Tier Set buff does not allow new applications of the Unseen Blades stacks, so any Unseen Blades procs between the 2 Coup casts would be wasted, this small adjustment prevents that from happening.
north schooner
^
quaint lodge
You do not hold coup in any scenario except the one above
north schooner
you don't want to never coup outside of dances because then you lose cdr on dances
unkempt drum
Makes perfect sense
void epoch
you just said conflicting things though
quaint lodge
What is conflicting
steel jolt
don't want to never
void epoch
you said dont hold coup and ninja said dont coup outside of dance
unkempt drum
you said dont hold coup and ninja said dont coup outside of dance
Easier way to read it is you only DO hold if your CDs are imminent (sub-10 seconds away)
rancid crow
I got a dagger and two off meta trinkets in the vault this week lol
unkempt drum
Otherwise the CDR alone is worth the relatively weaker coups outside dance
void epoch
ok ty
unkempt drum
Actually just to be sure -- by CDs here do we mean any dance (including non-flag) or just flag? Like if you have a coup up, Dance up in 9 seconds and Flag is still a minute away
quaint lodge
Flag
unkempt drum
Cool ty
karmic harbor
You can stop using finishers
does this include rupture
tepid trellis
rupture if its falling off
queen plinth
you don't want to never coup outside of dances because then you lose cdr on danc...
so what if i proq coup and have no dance or symbol i just press nothing in st?
even when i have literally no cds coming up soon
north schooner
yes you press it
tepid trellis
coup up = press unless cds close
unkempt drum
Overall it seems like the answer is usually "if you have coup, hit it"
north schooner
you only ever hold coup when your flag is a few seconds away
karmic harbor
so what if i proq coup and have no dance or symbol i just press nothing in st?
you always press coup unless youre 10s away from flag
copper linden
Can someone tell me how people are using flag at 0:01 and 1:23 on nexus king according to Lorrgs?
How are they using it 8 seconds early?
north schooner
blessing of autumn
unkempt drum
Question on nimble flurry. If your overall damage breakdown has similar coup cast numbers to a higher parse but lower damage AND your flurry damage is way lower, it's likely those are the same issue right, or at least connected? Misusing/mismanaging coups, basically?
karmic harbor
seen some logs with sus coup dmg tbh
quaint lodge
I would not make a general statement around that cuz any number of things would change what thats abt
tepid trellis
well pull size matters, amount of shadowstrike casts matters
and if you have good Coup rng during blades
north schooner
flawless form stacks too
unkempt drum
I'm really struggling to achieve the appropriate flurry damage that higher logs get, the recurring cast issues are way too many backstabs and too few shadowstrikes but I'm not really sure how I'm overusing BS to this degree
tepid trellis
well you at most backstab once
per dance on AoE
other than that you dont really press it
unkempt drum
I must be mashing it by mistake or something because I'm baffled at how high my BS numbers are, like I'll have over 300 hits in some keys
north schooner
I'm really struggling to achieve the appropriate flurry damage that higher logs ...
is that in dances or in general? If you don't get enough dances you will have a different BS:SS ratio too
tepid trellis
thats my breakdown from a random priory i did
unkempt drum
is that in dances or in general? If you don't get enough dances you will have a ...
In general. I don't think I've ever had flurry be over 30% of my overall ever and that's consistently how good logs look
I'm sure I'm making mistakes in the burst window, I've been working on this spec for like a week but this is pretty consistently where I'm falling short on the damage breakdowns
tepid trellis
not gonna deep dive into the log, but you are pressing storm too much during dances
that will also lower your flurry dmg
north schooner
tepid trellis
you also miss globals in dances, by activating shadow dance mid global and or not pressing anything for like half a sec after dancing
quaint lodge
^
unkempt drum
I think it is likely that I just don't have a good enough grasp of the burst sequence and my brain kinda defaults to the filler buttons when I get mentally jammed, which is obviously bad but it's fixable
quaint lodge
Yeah theres a lot going on here thats wrong, but I would start with fixing your rotation from the very get go
Your understanding of teh cooldown window seems to be a bit off
unkempt drum
you also miss globals in dances, by activating shadow dance mid global and or no...
By this do you mean like hitting the premed backstab (1 sec), dance mid-global (1.5) and not getting to the next button fast eneough (2 sec)
quaint lodge
You want to chain dances inside flag windows
you're not leading to your largest damage loss
unkempt drum
So not hitting the second dance quickly enough during flag basically
quaint lodge
Yes, you're also hitting symbols randomly it appears
tepid trellis
By this do you mean like hitting the premed backstab (1 sec), dance mid-global (...
Dance -0.5 delay backstab
Is what i mean
warm marlin
By this do you mean like hitting the premed backstab (1 sec), dance mid-global (...
The premed backstab comes after dance, which also seems to be a consistent issue
quaint lodge
You only ever hit symbols inside of shadow dance, and at most two gcds before sectec
warm marlin
A lot of your flags have backstab dance backstab
unkempt drum
A lot of your flags have backstab dance backstab
Yeah I've been doing this on purpose, easy fix. Was misremembering the guide I suppose
Anyone got thoughts on maybe putting BS on the Dance button so you can go tap tap and get both
unkempt drum
Dance + BS?
tepid trellis
!bs