5 point kidneyshot on KT cheap both OT
#subtlety
tribal blade
Gouge reset
solar ermine
!mistakes
wicked joltBOT
Here are some common mistakes and how to spot them in your logs:
- Go into your log, press Timelines and Casts to the right like this
- Every single Flagellation & Blades window should look like the opener in this picture. Coup, shadowstrikes and eviscerates can move around a bit depending on procs, but all the other spells should be used exactly like this.
- Make sure you always get 8 globals off during your shadow dances. You can hover over your shadow dances to see the exact times they start, and then see if your 8th spell is within 8 seconds of that.
- If your shadow dance and/or symbols wasnt ready in time to be used like in the picture above you used too many in between your burst.
solar ermine
!sheet
wicked joltBOT
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solar ermine
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
keen dome
hell yeah
solar ermine
!atro
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maiden oar
<@573407485218521088> god thank you ❤️
np
keen dome
Nah
My best is 64%, I'm struggling with Masscre out of all mechanics
I may simply not be good enough to do this week 0 haha
But it's a very fun challenge
vale pine
will likely depend on gear levels too
keen dome
Well, this week it's all player skill imo.
vale pine
haha fair
keen dome
For some reason I'm really struggling to line up with masscre properly
wary plover
!sheet
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maiden oar
is there a way to not get owned by the dance threat drop
didnt even know it was a mechanic before today and i lost so much damage bc of it
keen dome
Sometimes I can get her to stay on me, sometimes she won't
maiden oar
still won but it felt so bad
keen dome
It is really obnoxious
maiden oar
yeah idk what causes it
keen dome
Esp as Brann sometimes decides to misdirect into a fucking portal
maiden oar
i press flag and she just sprints through 2000 dagger lines at brann and i cant do my flag
wahoo!
keen dome
Yeah
I've had a bit of luck going Strike -> Evis first, then building to rupture flag dance etc
But it doesn't seem consistent so it might be confirmation bias
maiden oar
yea i held first flag until first suck
keen dome
Yeah
maiden oar
but still was evil
keen dome
That's what I've been doing most attempts
If I can consistently do masscre I think I can kill her today, but the pixel perfect nature is absolutely obliterating me
maiden oar
are u standing still
keen dome
Yep
maiden oar
oh ok sad
keen dome
Slow reaction speed, not noticing which it is, it being in an awkward position, etc.
maiden oar
that is my only recommendation (and anti aliasing also)
keen dome
Yeah that def helped a lot
maiden oar
i think position doesnt matter too much but it can help to make bigwigs do a little ping after each dash
idk why that helps bc it really shouldnt but it does
keen dome
Yep, I have that
I think it's just a mixture of my reaction speed being a bit too slow and the animation / line / purpleness sometimes being a bit too overwhelming
maiden oar
keen dome
Ironically I have zero issue with invoking shadows lmao
maiden oar
sometimes she hid behind an egg and i got tricked but then i remembered i can kill the egg
maiden oar
funny guy
keen dome
Yet another nemesiss where brann is a problem, not an aid
Just go sit in the corner and throw potions at me you fucking meance
tidal marsh
I didn't stand still for the massacres most of the time
I kinda backed away from each one and adjusted with movement and mouse
The standing still is fake
tough mist
The problem for me was where two or more clones pop at the same spot, I see the first, maybe the second, and die on the third cause I doesn't seen he spawnd on them
keen dome
Yeah, the double clone can be quite annoying
tidal marsh
The problem for me was where two or more clones pop at the same spot, I see the ...
OH MY GOD THIS THOUGH
maiden oar
standing still worked for me hehe
tidal marsh
My brain could not handle two on the same spot either
maiden oar
but yea can do other thing too
keen dome
I really enjoy how it's pure mechanics
tidal marsh
'cause I tracked where they popped up in my periphery
keen dome
And not a dozen of them. Do these three things and win
keen dome
'cause I tracked where they popped up in my periphery
high5 periphery power
tidal marsh
Soon as one charged, I like 180 looking for the next one
maiden oar
i like how u dont get autoed to death
keen dome
i like how u dont get autoed to death
Big same
maiden oar
i hated underpin bc the robots shot u with their gun
tidal marsh
Yeh, I didn't even do Zekvir or Underpin 'cause they were cringe
tough mist
Tried on group, even with 5 ppl Brann keep being there so you have 6 pools and dmgs are absolutly insane
keen dome
How much of her % were you guys typically doing per 'rotation' of her mechanics (I.e., pull to first shadows, etc)?
maiden oar
How much of her % were you guys typically doing per 'rotation' of her mechanics ...
i have no idea i stopped looking at her hp
tough mist
Zekvir and Underpin was pretty easy
keen dome
i have no idea i stopped looking at her hp
probably smart tbh
maiden oar
because it was just making me want to chase her when she ran at brann
tidal marsh
How much of her % were you guys typically doing per 'rotation' of her mechanics ...
I did it as Outlul so 
keen dome
Damn, the risky challenge mode option
maiden oar
i think my prog time could be halved if i just accepted that if she runs when i press dance i do not chase her
tough mist
Personally around 90, isn't a dps race, just survive shits
keen dome
So far I have two kinds of attempts. I die on pull / first masscre or I go really far into her then die to masscre lmao
tough mist
I have like 682 ilvl and 2m dps
keen dome
Yeah that's about what I'm at
maiden oar
doing it on sub would be so fun if she didnt run away from u
keen dome
90 to 85% by first shadows, maybe 80% if I get really locked in
But I do think Hali is 100% right that ignoring her HP andj ust playing mechanics is the way
maiden oar
it does depend i think on if she runs away
keen dome
Yeah
maiden oar
i do infinite dmg if she doesnt
tidal marsh
100% focus on mechanics
keen dome
This really makes me miss Brawlers pub
maiden oar
but its just seemingly random if she leaves
maybe im doing something wrong with the potions to make brann generate a ton of threat
im not sure
tough mist
% is pretty random if you lose or not the threat, and she doesn't have enrage or whatever so just play the mechanic, dps isn't a factor here
keen dome
Yeah
She has a hard enrage with the shadows but it seems to be 15 minutes or something?
keen dome
Yeah
tough mist
Think the increasing dmg from pools will destroy you before the 15 mins
She got like +5%
maiden oar
i honestly didnt notice the damage
keen dome
They tuned this so well imo
tough mist
Yeah it's chicken
keen dome
Every mechanic one-shots, but the boss herself isn't something you have to be super worried about being melee'd down by as long as you play sensibly with defensives and potions from Brann
tough mist
But I fear how it work with a static range spec
maiden oar
i feel like itd be fine
tough mist
Think it's 100% a melee fight or range who can move like bm
keen dome
You only need to move for two things, really.
maiden oar
someone in my guild did it on demo
maiden oar
and someone else on shadow
keen dome
Would really love a "Hey please reset my cooldowns" on branns box haha
tough mist
Free repair should be good too 😂
paper flame
if i macro thistle tea to sectech, will there be any instances where the sectech damage is not increased by thistle tea?
vale pine
!up
wicked joltBOT
brave moth
When do I use Tea in AoE ?
brave moth
so I just macro it
cursive vapor
!atro
wicked joltBOT
Atrophic poison/feint in Raid: > Click to open Sheet <
sick sand
!tea
wicked joltBOT
Thistle tea use:
It is recommended to macro Thistle Tea with Shadow Dance like this:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```Just fyi for the EU folks
azure thicket
hey quick question
vale pine
if you haven't done 8 delves, the fungal folly can be easy cheesed and is fast
azure thicket
do we try to overlap shadow dance for the opener to preserve danse macabre for big sec tec/cb etc?
tough mist
Bruh the "Contract Killer" title from Ky'veza ?? doesn't seem's to be account wide unlike the two previous bosses
chrome palm
yeah 🙈
azure thicket
wuh ?_?
maiden oar
Bruh the "Contract Killer" title from Ky'veza ?? doesn't seem's to be account wi...
maybe i should run it back on my dh i bet itd be so smooth
tough mist
checked on wowhead it's Account-wide title, so hoping for a fix before 2030
keen dome
Moving while doing masscres (running at the active one) is making it way more consistent for me. I died 'cos I fucked up and had nothing for voids
tough mist
vale pine
do we try to overlap shadow dance for the opener to preserve danse macabre for b...
you don't keep danse macabre stacks after dance even if you dance back to back
vale pine
Bruh the "Contract Killer" title from Ky'veza ?? doesn't seem's to be account wi...
yikes
limpid sage
TFD feels so good to play with now
alpine wraith
yea only problem is now it krangles instantly if they pull a boss while it is counting down
so have to be aware
and vanish before a boss with a bit of time
to avoid tghis
limpid sage
they should make it proc on stealth (night elf master race)
hazy breach
yea only problem is now it krangles instantly if they pull a boss while it is co...
Thats not really krangling though, thats just how its intended to work
If you enter combat the timer stops
short radish
if you haven't done 8 delves, the fungal folly can be easy cheesed and is fast
TODAYS FUNGAL FOLLY IS ASS
hollow spear
Are you EU?
short radish
NA(h)
hollow spear
You are an upside down brit
short radish
yeah
hollow spear
🙁
short radish
literally 1984
hollow spear
thought control
short radish
but yeah todays fungal folly sucks
hollow spear
What's your ping on NA btw?
cursive vapor
How much % of damage gain is it when using cold blood with second secret tec?
hollow spear
Used to be 1.5% or so
Not sure where it is this new season, maybe a little bit less
Still worth it though
sand flax
@vale pine is it possible to send 2 sectech in the first shadow dance (with TFD) without the the 2P/4P set ?
hazy breach
Yes
sand flax
Do we need to pre charge our UB profs ?
hazy breach
And/or get lucky yes
round latch
if you haven't done 8 delves, the fungal folly can be easy cheesed and is fast
mines was faster for me
but they are both fast
rocky ocean
round latch
hollow spear
Urgh
keen dome
gross haste
hollow spear
Only saw the non tier shoulders in fuu's guide
Didn't even see the full extent of how bad it was
slate marlin
coming back home the day before reset, spamming delves and m0 honna be fun
short radish
i need talent for M+ (sub and assa) can someone help me plz
!guide
short radish
sweet gyro
tnx
short radish
👍
proven plover
!fuu
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clever delta
we are not getting tier sims in fuu sheet this season-?
alpine wraith
they will come later likely
steel jolt
you can sim it right meow
lilac pendant
Why haste poo?
short radish
does nothing for us
frigid prawn
!wa
wicked joltBOT
chrome palm
How many pulls
chrome palm
Uhhh details maybe?
tender locust
is that one? or ??
hazy breach
??
tender locust
sick
hazy breach
How many pulls
72
hazy breach
did you do it as Ass or Sub?
Sub
keen dome
Hellllll yeah
hazy breach
Just gotta make sure you dont dance at the start of the piechart thing
Because then you lose aggro 
short radish
keen dome
I'm consistently getting to around 60% atm. Probably going to tak eme more than 200, but I'm gonna do it.
chrome palm
Would be nice if that were a choice node or something
hazy breach
Disable anti-aliasing and youll see the red outlines very clearly on the clones
keen dome
Yeah, it helps a lot.
chrome palm
I found it easier to just remember which order they spawn in
I kept dying trying to react to them
They always charge in order
hazy breach
I faced the red outline one, the i aim my camera at the next red one and then pressed to face it. Trying to always be one step ahead of the one actually charging
Since only the charging one and the one coming after was glowing red
keen dome
What build did you use, out of interest? Just raid?
hazy breach
Ye
chrome palm
Brann you fucking idiot
keen dome
This is the seventh time he has decided to just kill himself in a portal
This time he just ran into it.
chrome palm
Get out of the portal
raw cave
!coup
wicked joltBOT
Coup de Grace Optimizations:
- **Number 1: **You can stop using (non maintenance) finishers ~10 seconds before your 90 sec cooldowns come up.
- Number 2: ONLY with the 4 set of the new tier! -- During Shadow Blades, if you get the 4 set buff, you can use Shuriken Storm to not proc Unseen Blade before using your 2nd Coup.
- Explanation: The Tier Set buff does not allow new applications of the Unseen Blades stacks, so any Unseen Blades procs between the 2 Coup casts would be wasted, this small adjustment prevents that from happening.
swift tinsel
My favorite is when he’s already in one of the clear slices and disengages across the room to the one I’m in
keen dome
Yep
To their credit, this is the finest he's been in a fight
He just sometimes chooses to die
swift tinsel
Yeah I mean I get it sometimes you just wanna call it some days
Did about 10 attempts yesterday and was doing decently okay, gonna try and knock it out later
keen dome
Hell yeah, you can do it
swift tinsel
Was getting kinda chunked so I gotta feint more methinks lol
keen dome
The only point I'm taking any real damage, even as Assa, is during the big circles atm.
And i'm just rotating defensives as needed.
When I die it's cos I ge tone-shot haha
swift tinsel
Yeah I usually feint once the suck starts and vial a second or two after
Mostly just gotta clean up the massacre
Anti-alias disable suuuuper helpful tho
Hali the goat for suggesting that
carmine portal
Yessir
Gna be trying it later boys
Sum1 set me a bounty to do it vanishless before tuesday
swift tinsel
Ran a few 0’s with the guild last night too and sub was powerfucking
Almost beat one of our fdk mains in priory lol
tough mist
it's 0s , fights are short
chrome palm
A lot of stuff does not live through sub cds in 0s
tough mist
when fights will last longer than our burst window it will not be the same fun, but will still be good af
carmine portal
Looking forward to seeing how it feels with double coup in an extended dung
still anvil
but fuck flag not resetting
in my kill i used my first flagellation after the first intermission, because it was on cd for so long 💀
vale pine
<@194804407706189824> is it possible to send 2 sectech in the first shadow dance...
yes, its possible but you depend on procs
vale pine
mines was faster for me
you can sap/skip most of the dungeon, so you only need to do 2 packs:
- the end boss
- the pack in the middle which is 3 waves of enemies
swift tinsel
You got thissssss
lilac stag
FF the goat
vale pine
soo close
keen dome
Doing it as Assa 'cos it's way easier to keep damage up and just do mechanics
I died entirely due to my own fault, panicing during daggers and getting into a bad spot
swift tinsel
I’ve thought about doing that just to avoid dance Brann shenanigans
chrome palm
I think I asked before but outside of blades when we dance in aoe do we
- coup first if coup is up, or secret
- storm between coup if it gives max cp
still anvil
Doing it as Assa 'cos it's way easier to keep damage up and just do mechanics
i mean its probably just 99% about what you feel more comfortable with
did it as sub, because that felt easier for me
keen dome
It's smoother for my smooth brain.
keen dome
i mean its probably just 99% about what you feel more comfortable with
did it as...
Ye. I mean I'm infinitely more comfortable with Sub, but I'm struggling to find good windows to burst and maintain it. Assa I can just keep DoT's rolling, and not really tihnk about it
vale pine
I died entirely due to my own fault, panicing during daggers and getting into a ...
tbh think its nice, you rarely have challanges you can overcome with personal improvements
still anvil
Ye. I mean I'm infinitely more comfortable with Sub, but I'm struggling to find ...
hm, at some point i just got comfortable enough to use cooldowns anywhere, even during massacres
but thats probably not what i would generally call comfortable
keen dome
Ye, it's def skill dif for me.
still anvil
tbh think its nice, you rarely have challanges you can overcome with personal im...
for sure, i love it
swift tinsel
For sure, it’s Soulsborne-esque where you just have to lock in and get good to do it
keen dome
Yeah!
swift tinsel
Which I love that kind of gameplay
keen dome
Brawlers pub, babyyyyy
keen dome
Ideal
swift tinsel
100%
keen dome
Entirely about your own relationship to the class, the spec, the content.
swift tinsel
Like sure there’s specs where it’s easier but that’ll probably only carry you like 10% of the fight
still anvil
i didnt really enjoy that i kinda needed to play around brann potions, but that might have been because he is underlevelled? didnt feel as bad though when i did it as outlaw
keen dome
I actually had the best luck on sub running a vigor dark brew setup, just focusing on finisher damage and flowing the rotation. Which is why I swapped to Assa to try on it instead.
swift tinsel
i didnt really enjoy that i kinda needed to play around brann potions, but that ...
He can def troll with where he throws them relative to you sometimes, esp during portals
Mf will throw them into the portal for me
So I can’t get them when I need it during the suck lol
keen dome
Been a while since I got the shakes from focusing on wow content lmao
still anvil
He can def troll with where he throws them relative to you sometimes, esp during...
it was just really hard to live portals with just elusiveness, if i didnt have 2-4 stacks of the hot running at the same time
(in the sets where i didnt have evasion up)
keen dome
Yeah
Feint + Vial and 1 brann pot has been enough for me
but those portals are absolutely the scariest
swift tinsel
Ye I just need to be smarter about rolling those during the latter sucks as she has more stacks
still anvil
with outlaw that part was more chill, simply because of the higher evasion uptime
downside of outlaw is you have to tank the mental damage of everything running out during the intermission
keen dome
Cloak, Evasion, Feint + Vial is my rotation. Keeping the brann healing rolling as much as possibel
And HP pot if it gets spooky
still anvil
i was able to leave cloak out of just damage reduction, so i was able to use it when i panicked on daggers instead
swift tinsel
I’ve got about 200 attempts worth of health pots on me so hopefully don’t need to lean on all of them today lol
keen dome
i was able to leave cloak out of just damage reduction, so i was able to use it ...
Oh, it negates dagger damage? damn
swift tinsel
Oddly enough just backpedaling daggers usually keeps me safe
keen dome
I've just been running away from her a bit and dropping damage to survive.
swift tinsel
Like 95% of the time
keen dome
Making enough room to have room to move into
still anvil
there were just a few moments where after like the first spawn i already noticed "im moving wrong i will die" and used cloak
and it was really nice when i was able to just use cloak at the last couple % when my heart was beating at 250bpm
swift tinsel
Lol that’s the part that fucks me up is getting jittery from the adrenaline
graceful crown
Kyveza reseted at 18% hp coz i was in vanish when she was about do the clon trick of choosing the correct one
:D
swift tinsel
Need to put on calming rain sounds lol
still anvil
Kyveza reseted at 18% hp coz i was in vanish when she was about do the clon tric...
i was somehow able to not reset her once while constantly vanishing as outlaw, but that sounds awful
swift tinsel
Yeah I’d need to step away from the computer if that happened
keen dome
Lol that’s the part that fucks me up is getting jittery from the adrenaline
100%
BRANN, YOOOOOU CRIMINAL he went in a protal
tribal blade
i want to report brann for genocidal charges against humanity
i want him to rot in the 7 layers of hell
swift tinsel
If Brann had pet functionality with just a Move To command, holy shit that would be nice
keen dome
Somehow lost my DS mark half-way through that attempt..
chrome palm
Somehow lost my DS mark half-way through that attempt..
Your what now
keen dome
As Assa
chrome palm
There is another way 
sinful zephyr
Hi. Question: Can we already earn Conquest Badges this week for season 3?
hazy breach
To their credit, this is the finest he's been in a fight
Yeah atleast he is not running outside of the room randomly resetting the boss like he did with zekvir
proud sedge
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
keen dome
Yeah atleast he is not running outside of the room randomly resetting the boss l...
I'm sure he'll find a way, but yeah. It's really just the occasional portal death.
hazy breach
Sometimes he went in and pulled the boss when i was waiting for flag cd
keen dome
Oh yeah, he's done that
Thankfully i can just vanish and I'm not using vanish in the fight for anything
hazy breach
Its not an issue though, just weird
hollow spear
He's generally a fan of attacking stuff you didn't want to deal with
hollow spear
True
Maybe he tried to reset the boss for Eleem, but failed
Would be lore accurate hunter
short radish
'ASKDLKAJDSLKASDHASKJSAHDASKASHDASDASA
i love pressing dance on opener
and boss goes running away while massacre is happening
and im just standing there flaccid
keen dome
yep
I've been doing: Strike -> rupture -> Backstab 2 / 3 then sitting for the first portals, then flag as I run over and bursting
swift tinsel
I’ve never wanted a taunt more than for this fight lol
hazy breach
Idk i found flagging on pull to be fine, just gotta walk up close before opening so brann isnt too far away
keen dome
Has anybody found that sometimes Brann just doesn't do.. anything? And you rot down immediately
swift tinsel
Yep
hazy breach
Obviously you gotta skill it with the daggers
swift tinsel
He doesn’t pot or throw the orb
keen dome
Guess he was afk
hazy breach
But you kinda always have to use cds during daggers anyway
swift tinsel
Yeah idk what causes it but he’ll just stand there doing absolutely nothing at all
short radish
how much of a coward would I be if i just did this on my ret paladin
swift tinsel
Ye I try to have my bursts end before massacre if possible
hazy breach
Ye none, the fight is hard regardless
short radish
feels like it'll reduce difficulty by like 5x
keen dome
Tanks probably have it the easiest, as long as you can do mechanics
hazy breach
Idk i dont feel like being a tank makes this much easier
short radish
sinc ei can concentrate on mechanics more
swift tinsel
Idk my friend took a tettles amount of tries as vdh lol
hazy breach
Assuming they still get oneshot by charges
swift tinsel
They do
keen dome
Yeah but Brann as DPS is pretty okay
swift tinsel
Was watching him and they clear you no matter what
keen dome
unless he goes bird mode and dies I guess
nevermind I take it back he's gonna go bird mode and die and thus make it harder
hazy breach
If i just use cloak or evasion during sucks i didnt feel in danger of dying
From damage that is
Needing to do another set of charges when the boss has 1% was nerve wrecking though
swift tinsel
Ye imma have to rotate those bc I’ve died to damage a time or two during that
bleak wind
bran dying is shit, but not the end of the world, when I killed her he died twice..
violet palm
!tfd
Is there still a bug with vanish+Suriken storm that charges your The First Dance?
hazy breach
Afaik no
swift tinsel
Time for a morning gym sesh before coming home to farm repair bills
hazy breach
Is there still a bug with vanish+Suriken storm that charges your The First Dance...
But now the first dance actually starts when you leave combat
Before it sometimes took a few seconds before starting the timer
keen dome
Brann standing a pixel off a portal and not being sucked in, then the next set he just gets sucked to the edge of the room.
Dude just does what he wants
swift tinsel
He’s a strong independent dwarf
graceful osprey
Brann is just chilling and enjoying the adventure
violet palm
Sturdy grip boots
carmine portal
Right gang
What talent sheet are ppl using for Kyveza
for sub
And what brann curios
hazy breach
Idk i dont think ive ever considered smoke anywhere
But yes elusiveness, cheat is useless
lofty lance
worked well for me 😄
magic ruin
Anyone know the dps gain/loss for backstabbing in dance for ST and AOE? Season 3 tier set
magic ruin
Its whatever even though extra macabre stack for the first dance? Good to know though, hate pressing it in aoe
carmine portal
My issue rn is that the clones seem to kill me even when I am certain im looking directly at them
this dogshit PC of my GFs is doing my no favours
frank narwhal
void ocean
this dogshit PC of my GFs is doing my no favours
dump her. find a girl with better PC
round latch
you can sap/skip most of the dungeon, so you only need to do 2 packs:
- the end ...
ik did all delves,its not like there are alot slower delves anyway jsut those two that are a lil bit faster
biggest strength sub has is deleting the bosses
actually crazy how strong it is
void ocean
u'll get us nerfed
void ocean
sub is fine.
carmine portal
dump her. find a girl with better PC
I couldn't do that to her she's getting better at WoW than me I need to keep improving
serene palm
!fuu
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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
carmine portal
AND I wish there was a way to reset CD's goddamn
keen dome
29.7% was my best attempt today. Quite a few more 35%ish ones but I think I'll come back to this in a week or two, haha. Just not quite good enough.
Incredibly good challenge content and I hope they add more.
carmine portal
70 atm, finding it so hard following the cup and ball spell
bad eyesight not helping
keen dome
I think that specific mechanic is going to be really difficult for some people, through no fault of their own.
carmine portal
It's literally yhe only issue i'm having, if it comes down to attrition and I can do thsoe mechs I'm in the clear
Im thinking about getting a speed potion or food for dodging the daggers
My strat atm is running as far away from the middle as possible and it's doing me good
swift tinsel
29.7% was my best attempt today. Quite a few more 35%ish ones but I think I'll c...
Progress 
keen dome
Maybe it'll be one of those things where I feel I've hit my limit, then go back tomorrow and one attempt it lmao
swift tinsel
Lmao that would be so clutch
keen dome
Give the body and mind time to adjust and internalise stuff you've learned. It's quite common when you do something alot, hit a wall, and then come back later.
vale pine
alright, took long enough
keen dome
Hell yeah
vale pine
takes forever, even tho i assume most players don't know about the orb collecting game yet
heady shell
For new season, worth breaking 4 piece for new 2 piece?
heady shell
Thx
carmine portal
GOD they need to make a way that kyveza resets ur Cds I hate having to wait between deaths
hazy breach
Gotta coup, probably shouldve earlier when you procced it
Wont have enough time to get enough cdr otherwise
lucid jackal
it proced exactly on this backstab
hazy breach
Ok it was just fazed having 4s left
lucid jackal
I took a sec to get the screenshot
leaden prairie
unc
lucid jackal
Would it be what
hazy breach
Ye fair enough
lucid jackal
Coup 1 > vanish SS > sod > coup > sectec?
hazy breach
Ye either that or no sod/sectech
Dont think either is wrong
(assuming there still time in the fight to sod later)
void ocean
a bit ironic to replace Circlet with this... but sims say so 😄
hazy breach
a bit ironic to replace Circlet with this... but sims say so 😄
Circlet got nerfed this patch
hazy breach
<@212854714197344256> what do you do here
But ye either way cant really sit on that coup since you would be missing cdr for your blades so gotta send
hazy breach
The way you described it is probably the way to go
lucid jackal
bet
warm marlin
pressing symbols there will delay flag by like 4s if you really need to hit a timing
plush roost
If the fight lasts long enough would it be worth it to just build.spend without using symbols/dance or will you ever overcap on dance cdr, no way right?
30 seconds, with 40 seconds on symbols capping seems fine no?
hazy breach
You can hold ye
hazy breach
I instinctively wouldve held symbols i think, but the way guy talked about it sounds better when i think about it (assuming no exact timings like ryldd mentioned)
lucid jackal
It shouldnt delay anything tho, it's just like live no?
grand wyvern
i finally killed ky veza, such good fight, and good feeling
hazy breach
It shouldnt delay anything tho, it's just like live no?
You would have like 12s on your second symbols when you flag
So you would need to delay a few seconds
warm marlin
dance cdr does look a bit sus so probably good to send symbols anyway
lucid jackal
Do you only storm on ST in blades betwen coups or between all coups
void ocean
cause outside of blades storm wouldnt fill our cps?
hazy breach
Ye
warm marlin
Theres enough cdr without it
but then you have to spend 34 cp before flag which prob makes it hard to pool sht 
tame terrace
wait we storm on st???
short radish
somehow clear the witness has returned
hazy breach
but then you have to spend 34 cp before flag which prob makes it hard to pool sh...
You dont really need 30, 35 is fine but also 24 of those cps are from the coups so
But ye the symbols probably worth to make sure coup is ready earlier in blades
void ocean
wait we storm on st???
its D'rude season, mate, didnt u hear
tame terrace
at least its not tornado
tame terrace
i aint playing sub in mp
warm marlin
what is the sequence
whats wrong w dance symbols coup strike sectec strike coup
short radish
coward
tame terrace
bro ive done my time
void ocean
whos gonna tell him about Rupnado
lucid jackal
whats wrong w dance symbols coup strike sectec strike coup
Nothing just checking on whats correct
tame terrace
fuck tornado
short radish
fuck tornado
grand wyvern
whos gonna tell him about Rupnado
i am more comfortable with replicating shadows and iàll die on this hill
warm marlin
the dastardly dance coup symbols strike sectec strike coup might be better
tame terrace
ill hit 3k all specs and abandon sub in mp like always
lucid jackal
the dastardly dance coup symbols strike sectec strike coup might be better <:gar...
hmmmm
warm marlin
no sim proof 
hazy breach
ok what about this
Not entirely sure tbh, sim would probably do something like this, but it doesnt quite feel right
warm marlin
isnt sectec higher prio in apl
i would guess that one sectec wasnt ready until after the second coup
hazy breach
isnt sectec higher prio in apl
Wait youre right, im dumb and scrolled down to copy another set of them 
fleet wharf
so sec tech before you send the 2nd coup?
hollow spear
the dastardly dance coup symbols strike sectec strike coup might be better <:gar...
I'd say this sounds like the most "optimal" solution, not sure I'd always have the mental bandwidth to go through that sequence in a hectic fight
warm marlin
so sec tech before you send the 2nd coup?
not always, in this case only because that's when sectec comes up
hazy breach
I think the sim wouldnt be in this situation to begin with as it likely wouldve used dance before it even procced the coup
warm marlin
I'd say this sounds like the most "optimal" solution, not sure I'd always have t...
it makes sense to me but its def a bit weird to recognize
and u want to symbols asap after the first coup to catch the follow up hits
hazy breach
I havent found anything when i looked to change things like this in sims, but its possible theres something
Although i suspect theyre very minor as we are talking about out of blades damage
hollow spear
Yeah, if we argue that pre disorienting is too hard to reliably get, I'd argue that these super special improvements are, too
lucid jackal
Here is a full hold right
warm marlin
raw sectec angle?
lucid jackal
My CDs feel too low to send here and my coup is low
hollow spear
Yeah raw sectec
hazy breach
raw sectec angle?
I think 29 is too low, probably gonna lead to a minor delay
He should get coups anyway
hollow spear
You think?
lucid jackal
I always get double coup before CDs
plush roost
I think build finish into backstab soup at 10-15ish seconds
hollow spear
Yeah but that way you get out another sectec "for free"
warm marlin
its a bit close
hazy breach
Sim has >30 as its threshold
plush roost
Youll have no sht stacks if u send sec tec there methinks
hollow spear
29 seconds are usually good for me when there's a shammy
warm marlin
needs to spend 25 cp in 29s, including the 7 from flag rupture, might lead to a couple rupture refreshes so maybe bad
hazy breach
But most of the value from that sectec is the coup stacks
Which he is gonna get anyway
So its 
lucid jackal
Do you spam backstab at 10-15 always or just if you have coup
hollow spear
It's not linked to cdr?
warm marlin
backstab soup 
warm marlin
It's not linked to cdr?
linking it to cdr is really icky
lucid jackal
Like literally no finishers at all, just backstab spam
Why
Just to build sht stacks?
plush roost
Sht stacks
hollow spear
Sht
hollow spear
You're basically sacrificing like 800k evis damage to juice your burst window
lucid jackal
This lowkey sub rogue
shadow snow
Do you think sub will get nerfed in the coming weeks ?
lucid jackal
Do you think sub will get nerfed in the coming weeks ?
Less than 0%
If u think sub is getting nerfed u legit have 0 idea whats actually broken this patch
vale pine
hollow spear
Less than 0%
Is this a roundabout way of saying we'll get buffed? 
lucid jackal
Cuz DK and every ranged DPS (Especially warlock) is literally thanos
keen dome
Blizz will nerf sub and buff fdk and warlock
they're gonna buff me specifically because I'm old
hollow spear
#shameless
carmine portal
ur a gangsta
lucid jackal
True tho
vale pine
plush roost
Real
warm marlin
need to add shuriken storm now too
hollow spear
Maybe a toss?
vale pine
with backstab and shuriken storm topping
shadow snow
If u think sub is getting nerfed u legit have 0 idea whats actually broken this ...
Mb for asking
warm marlin
Maybe a toss?
missing out on the shiv tech
hollow spear
Haha dang
hollow spear
Forgot about that one
lucid jackal
The only way rogue gets nerfed is if they absurdly overperform on the damage amp bosses, which is technically a possibility but
vale pine
lets not talk about shiv
plush roost
Bro imagine a world where we get a tier set that just juices our finishers so much we actually play for danse stacks
lucid jackal
FDK and casters are so broken rn
hollow spear
Isn't uhdk also up there?
plush roost
And our sequence is backstab sec tec shiv evis storm evis strike evis
warm marlin
<:shhh:908048567061610548> lets not talk about shiv
me telling my raid that i can't enrage dispel because I need to shiv in my cds for 2k dps
hollow spear
Chef's kiss
keen dome
Bro imagine a world where we get a tier set that just juices our finishers so mu...
what a horrible time to be a rogue
hollow spear
We'd throw everything and the kitchen sink at it to juice them
plush roost
Stack it up baby
keen dome
nooo
plush roost
A lil bp
hollow spear
Cheap shot
plush roost
A lil toss
flat scarab
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use Unyielding Netherprism
/use Araz's Ritual Forge
/use Lily of the Eternal Weave
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
plush roost
The free cheap shot node
keen dome
police to the kitchen, there is a criminal cooking
keen dome
And our finisher still does less damage than envenom somehow
plush roost
And the 4 set
"Black powder gains 10% damage per danse macabre stack" JUST BECAUSE
Bp in st dream
Oh wait we can make it MORE degenerate
keen dome
I guess our Midnight set is decided..
plush roost
"Danse Macabre persist after Shadow Dance ends for X seconds" where X = juuuust enough time where a 4th dance can be implimented if you stretch the dances out enough
plush roost
🙂
plush roost
Mchimba Inshallah Realz I summon you Mchiimba
hollow spear
Are you secretly playing fdk this season and trying to bury guy's comment?
keen dome
You could work Shiv in somewhere, I bet.
plush roost
Nah fdk is resident sleeper
leaden prairie
@vale pine the apl you are using in your sheet isnt on simc right
vale pine
i added 2 things
vale pine
- small apl improvement for aoe (the 3 fw target line)
- A updated trinket use for prism, which makes prism and forge work well together (which eleem created)
vale pine
feel free to copy/paste the apl before its on simc from there
i re-ran the trinket sims too, and updated the profiles
prism + antenna sims about equal to forge + prism, so both is fine (double on use minimally ahead with pre pull stuff)
tepid canyon
what talents do we play with s2 4p?
vale pine
^ without pre pull
vale pine
what talents do we play with s2 4p?
you can play the new talent setup, but rotten is still fine
sand flax
yes, its possible but you depend on procs
Profs from UB & Shadowcraft ?
warm marlin
^ without pre pull
I rebuke this
vale pine
tier set procs, etc
vale pine
I rebuke this
wdym?
warm marlin
just not a double on use enjoyer
vale pine
it is the perfect situation
where double on use is equal to on use + passive
so you can use whatever feels more fitting
sand flax
tier set procs, etc
With the actual tier set ? Or next season
warm marlin
where double on use is equal to on use + passive
im guessing this means double on use gets better and better with shorter kill time which is my main issue
vale pine
well next sason tier set will increase coup use, so you get mroe cdr
warm marlin
mostly joking though
vale pine
if you play wm, can impact cdr
the amount of resets from aa's etc
there is a certain randomness involved to get enough cdr, and it means you can't have a rule of always true
flat scarab
!cb bug
wicked joltBOT
- Why is the Cold Blood and Secret Technique macro not recommended anymore?
When you macro these two together you often end up using it outside of your shadow blades window rather than inside of it, and since Subtlety gets so many damage modifiers inside its cooldowns its actually more damage use it only in Shadow Blades
(yes, even if you end up losing casts of cold blood). Ideally you use it on your second Secret Technique as it will be buffed by more stacks of Flawless Form and have higher Flagellation stacks.
warm marlin
With the actual tier set ? Or next season
was also possible in s2 btw
flat scarab
!cbbug
wicked joltBOT
Cold Blood bug:
A common issue when switching between Assassination Fatebound and Subtlety is that Cold Blood stops working, this problem is solvable with the following step:
- Relogging.
sand flax
was also possible in s2 btw
Without preparing a sectech before pull, I find it quite hard to guaranty a second techtech in the first dance (with TFD)
warm marlin
oh ya its very hard without predisorient
and its not guaranteed the clones will hit in the first dance even with new tier set
sand flax
That why I prefer send my CB + sectech in the second dance to be sure
warm marlin
it doesn't matter u should send asap
sand flax
Even if the clones might hit between the 2 dances ?
warm marlin
u want to get sectec on cd asap and use it while flawless form stacks are high etc
but also if your gcds are perfect you can millisecond chain dances the second the first one ends and your clones will never hit outside dance
you just wont have the danse macabre stacks
sand flax
alright, will try 😉 hanks man
warm marlin
chrome palm
^ without pre pull
holy
im telling my gm rn
swift tinsel
2nd pull of the day down to 53%, feeling pretty good
chrome palm
i am starting sub i got to 35% and now i am dying to dumb shit
alpine wraith
^ without pre pull
yea it was very good in m+
keen dome
Hell yeah, you guys have got it
alpine wraith
nice to see it is not bad in st either
vale pine
2nd pull of the day down to 53%, feeling pretty good
nice
swift tinsel
got a little too flirty with a dagger phase lol
swift tinsel
oh yeah, as soon as I die I take five deep breaths and go again lol
keeps the jitters away too
keen dome
That's a good idea, haha
It's gotten so warm this evening that I'm just done attempting. I've got so many deaths where I die in the first 20% due to something incredibly dumb.
carmine portal
^
And it makes it even worse that I then have to sit and wait CD's, full movespeed pots/food working wonders tho
Turning off my UI makes me follow kyveza 10x easier
swift tinsel
Oh yeah I've got my air purifier and fan going bc of the humidity here too
and I have a desk fan pointed at my mouse hand haha
keen dome
Nice
rapid forum
is there a way to reset cds tho
swift tinsel
wait
keen dome
nah
keen dome
Just gotta wait it out 'cos Flag is 1:30 so it isn't hit by the 2 minute reset
because lol
rapid forum
ye small indie developer
carmine portal
Also can any1 explain why when I am playing Sub Kyveza pmuch always auto aggros to brann for the first 10 seconds of the fight vs when I am assa and she targets solely me?
carmine portal
oh thats fucking wonderful
swift tinsel
yep
keen dome
A literal -10m aggro modifer, yeah
rapid forum
just deal more damage
keen dome
It's hilarious
swift tinsel
tricks yourself 5head
rapid forum
call her slurs
carmine portal
i legit tried bcus im regarded
rapid forum
that will help
carmine portal
I was SURE it was my tricks being bugged to brann or some shit
tidal marsh
That always helps
swift tinsel
nope its just Dance having a giga threat drop
keen dome
Yeah, it's a lot chiller.
carmine portal
yeah
swift tinsel
I had the dream massacre where all I had to do was rotate in a circle and I died to being dumb
oofta
keen dome
I had the dream massacre where all I had to do was rotate in a circle and I died...
many such cases
swift tinsel
we go agane
keen dome
It's great.
I do considerably more damage as Sub, I've noticed, and tend to die with her much lower than I would at that point as Assa. I should just keep the practice up.
swift tinsel
Same, plus the downtime happens in pretty good spots for me as sub so I don't have to focus on anything but living
keen dome
Yeah
swift tinsel
by just sending flag on pull
keen dome
Getting her to around 81% before the first Invoke felt pretty good
swift tinsel
oh yeah that's like my benchmark, if I can get between 75-80ish% by that I'm feeling good about the pull
keen dome
Hell yeah
placid elk
!wa
wicked joltBOT
hazy breach
I rebuke this
Im also not sold, especially in keys where cds are often held for like 20-30s
And obviously the burst is noticeably higher with only prism for the damage amps
But its clearly not bad after i adjusted the APL a bit more (apparently i was spreading misinformation about how bad it was previously My bad)
warm marlin
I wasn't questioning the output though I do agree for the keys and damage amp thing, i just don't like having a second trinket keybind/not macroing them into blades
nocturne scroll
Green name propaganda is crazy
warm marlin
ick
hazy breach
Green name propaganda is crazy
Its not propaganda, im just dumb and didnt do the APL check correctly for prism+another on-use
short aurora
nocturne scroll
carmine portal
gettin there
gz
warm marlin
this guy went on and on about even in df s3 all these bozos were clueless for double on use and it is and always will be terrible smh
carmine portal
you've got it easy
chrome palm
vale pine
interesstingly enough
hazy breach
this guy went on and on about even in df s3 all these bozos were clueless for do...
Smh my head
chrome palm
sub is hard because monkey brain need hit boss cooldown oh no massacre im dead
carmine portal
chads face smashing kyveza whilst the NERDS talk about sims
vale pine
you can change the check quite a bit and as long as its considering forge cooldown, it usually stays the same result
hazy breach
chads face smashing kyveza whilst the NERDS talk about sims
Why would i do kyveza a second time? 
chrome palm
you gotta go for the offspec kill
swift tinsel
shaved off 17% from my prev best in 8 pulls so far
lucid jackal
Or is that cope
vale pine
its good
hazy breach
About the same
keen dome
Helll yeah!!
vale pine
you can essentially decide if you want higher prism burst windows with prism + passive
or if you need 2 damage windows with double on use
both are fine
hazy breach
So my opinion is that it might be playable later on in the tier but taking forge as your second trinket from another guild member early on is absolutely grief
warm marlin
wait i hadnt seen the light, double on use means no rng variance from passive proc trinkett
im a double on use truther
carmine portal
why tf does brann keep leaving my party
warm marlin
mind = converted
warm marlin
#goremawbeliever
carmine portal
i did tell him to keep himself safe
keen dome
Brann is just setup to emulate the most typical random pug Hunter possible
hazy breach
wait i hadnt seen the light, double on use means no rng variance from passive pr...
Yes but your crits and procs during cds are more important as you do even less outside cds. Variance went up with the double on-use
(albeit only 0.1, but its not lower)
vale pine
@hazy breach did you already finish?
alpine wraith
as always just crit bro
likely when it gets triple coups
or not in forge
who knows
hazy breach
<:NOOOO:889014281826369607>
But also i changed your "max prism" line a bit
alpine wraith
just crit
warm marlin
But also i changed your "max prism" line a bit
i do enjoy that holding prism means I need a trinket keybind anyway
alpine wraith
i always had a trinket keybind ez
vale pine
I have no idea what that is
tl;dr. There is a mount for the "phased" zone, you can collect orbs to get transmog(20% chance when you run over one to get it). Once you collected all you get the achivement and mount. The mount allows you to well... mount up in the phased zone stuff next week i assume when you can level up your cloak higher
warm marlin
i always had a trinket keybind ez
i have one but i tend to swap things around a lot and then i lose it and have to move things around
alpine wraith
like the maw one
hazy breach
tl;dr. There is a mount for the "phased" zone, you can collect orbs to get trans...
Oh neat
keen dome
I enjoy how purple this zone allows us to be.
vale pine
if you want to do it, it takes a bit and depends how many others farm
^ highly recommend installing tomtom and copy/pasting the waypoints to know where orbs spawn
lucid jackal
So my opinion is that it might be playable later on in the tier but taking forge...
Ya
Or like a late vault pick
vale pine
antenna is a contested item too
hazy breach
Yeah
keen dome
Just go into a pug and win it. Be the villain
warm marlin
the dh trinket didn't seem too contested when i was looking into it
hazy breach
Its not, its a bit worse than antenna
warm marlin
how contested is sigil?
thats the dh trinket i was referring to, maybe a couple melee but didnt seem like many
vale pine
so best for your raid team is potentially prism + sigil
hazy breach
Its a consolation prize type trinket if youre just going by sims
warm marlin
havoc ironically has 2 better passive trinkets
hazy breach
Whats the second one
warm marlin
soleah
hazy breach
The one that gives stat to a friend?
warm marlin
ya
hazy breach
Interesting
warm marlin
i think their main hero tree is playing double passive though, so they might be rolling on sigil anyway if they can't get antenna
chrome palm
the damage passive was simming well for me in current gear, is that not too good once you get more geared?
*from eco dome
hazy breach
Its fine
chrome palm
i imagine antenna gets a nerf considering every dps class i know of its bis for
unless they are outlaw and hate crit or something
warm marlin
like hoc did?
chrome palm
eeee
vale pine
i imagine antenna gets a nerf considering every dps class i know of its bis for
i don't know, antenna has a bit of natural variance too
vale pine
so i would assume it will tsay as is
vale pine
the sl one should work, let me check
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type = stat
ill do a quick sim, moment
warm marlin
Do you know how to edit the stats it gives in simc? <:Hmm:1113516656807919676>
no and i cant find it in the dh sims
vale pine
i just posted how, and sim is running
so give me a sec
think i need to do profileset
moment
hazy breach
Ye it doesnt work with copies, it seems to be crit by default
vale pine
hmm
warm marlin
it is possible they just simmed it with crit as default
bronze blaze
last patch this bar showed my duration of symbols of death, I didn't change my settings was that just removed as a feature?
vale pine
profileset."haste"+="trinket1=soleahs_secret_technique,id=190958,ilevel=723"
profileset."haste"+="shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=haste"
profileset."vers"+="trinket1=soleahs_secret_technique,id=190958,ilevel=723"
profileset."vers"+="shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=versatility"
profileset."mastery"+="trinket1=soleahs_secret_technique,id=190958,ilevel=723"
profileset."mastery"+="shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=mastery"
profileset."crit"+="trinket1=soleahs_secret_technique,id=190958,ilevel=723"
profileset."crit"+="shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=crit"```^ if you want to sim
replaces first trinket slot with the trinket so make sure to have the trinket you want to compare it to in it
warm marlin
doesnt seem great for a spec without a flat profile
daring marlin
so for netherprism priority sub is #1 right
ivory jacinth
on my char the sigil outsims the antenna by 0.1% (on 704)
hazy breach
Yes
alpine wraith
also funny one prism + pvp trinket is quite nice too
if you dont have great champ trinkets too
warm marlin
on my char the sigil outsims the antenna by 0.1% (on 704)
damage effects are better at lower ilvl, stat effects scale with you
vale pine
Ye it doesnt work with copies, it seems to be crit by default
unsure if default is not just a random stat every run
i remember something along that lines
(could missremember tho)
hazy breach
Maybe, but the 4 copies i checked all had crit, which would obviously not be completely unreasonable
ivory jacinth
damage effects are better at lower ilvl, stat effects scale with you
Oh I tested it out of curiosity and at 723 sigil outsims antenna by 0.7%! Probably a stats issue I guess, but at least Sigil is pretty good if we can't get Antenna
vale pine
i just run a sim and it took haste in the first iteration
warm marlin
Oh I tested it out of curiosity and at 723 sigil outsims antenna by 0.7%! Probab...
yeah its a good option especially given the competition for antenna
bright elk
how is sub lookin for the raid compared to assa/outlaw?
lucid jackal
Imo the best spec but it might be sin on some fights
A lot of fights r gonna be late lists
Lusts
But sub can move its damage better
And has more burst, outside of lust execute sin
bright elk
gotcha, good to know
round latch
But sub can move its damage better
sub's the king now
lucid jackal
It's easy to prep both so just be mentally prepared to swap sin if it looks better on x or y fight
young crypt
how do you choose between ephemeral bond and exhilarating execution? M+ main focus
young crypt
ty
frank path
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
swift tinsel
okay break time brann has died three times by standing in portals
lofty lance
okay break time brann has died three times by standing in portals
u need to give him a few more tries, he needs to learn mechanics
swift tinsel
he's had like 30-40 to learn them lol
lofty lance
xD
wooden kernel
feel like he dies so fast as sub compared to other 2 specs
swift tinsel
he's hard stuck at casual normal raider
lofty lance
bro he was dying all the time for me too
but when i killed him motherfucker played perfectly
he pre turtled stuff too
insane
fallen crescent
okay break time brann has died three times by standing in portals
Progging
sharp lake
is it possible to make a weak aura that shows you when Unseen Blade is available?
hazy breach
It is not
maiden oar
Generally always exhil in m+
in raid is using exhil bad
lucid jackal
There's one where you can assume itll proc
maiden oar
ive been trying it but idk if im trolling
hazy breach
in raid is using exhil bad
No
lucid jackal
But fully being able to tell when is impossible
maiden oar
ok thanks
hazy breach
But sometimes the other one could end up with more overall hps
But in keys its just always the exhil one
maiden oar
i see
sharp lake
it’s so weird there isn’t a glow effect or anything when Unseen Blade is available
steel jolt
well it's not a Seen Blade
keen dome
okay break time brann has died three times by standing in portals
He does like doing that
steady timber
A lot of fights r gonna be late lists
do you mean most fights will lust around execute?
swift tinsel
feeling way better about my personal gameplay but homie is attempting to tilt me off the planet lol
void ocean
guys is catalyst released next week?
swift tinsel
guys is catalyst released next week?
yes