subtlety

[tepid trellis]

just 1

[nova cairn]

Enh sham

Kinda banger tho

[tepid trellis]

im also known to be a freak on the ele (freak as in really bad)

[vale pine]

tbh all 3 rogue specs are within low amount of dps

all around 5M

[runic trail]

Last season we were like, WR 2K, so 1300 is a decent jump

[nova cairn]

Just outlaw with the variance

[runic trail]

Waiting for this tier to be more like nerubar and we implode again

[nova cairn]

But ye all look decent

[slate lantern]

time to start a hashtag like the dks did

[swift tinsel]

are they still waiting for that to do something

[vale pine]

#goodroguebalance?

[swift tinsel]

#Finish10.2

#goremawsisnotacapstone

[void ocean]

#AttroIsNotARaidBuff

[keen dome]

#PoisonToggle

[slate lantern]

#removeenergy

[swift tinsel]

#subisnotpurpleenough

[lilac stag]

#13playerswithahsshtagwonttrend

[vale pine]

#whoknowswarningsighn

[void ocean]

who would we rend?

[steel zinc]

yeah we need a buff

like some ele style buff

25%

I take 10

[slate lantern]

lets take skyfury cause we need it more than shammys do

shadowfury

[vale pine]

25% buff

surely

[swift tinsel]

25% instant poison buff

ShT grants 1 additional energy

[void ocean]

rupture ticks twice faster

[keen dome]

25% buff to BP

[swift tinsel]

Rupture ticks faster in dance and ticks grant combo points

[wraith sphinx]

30% buff to gloomblade

[swift tinsel]

uncapped HAT style

just maching gunning finishers

[reef walrus]

just think about it, there IS a number by which to buff black powder to make subtlety single target very good

[haughty mural]

We will be so good in progress tho

[hollow spear]

Anything above 8% aura is omega cope

[short radish]

Please. Stop talking. Do not bring up bp buff

[hollow spear]

Not sure. Sub hasn't been our progress spec for a while now...

[short radish]

Trying to summon guy?

[steel zinc]

sin needs it. Sub needs atleast 15% or 10%

[wheat edge]

No need to buff specs, just make a op cantrip dagger

[keen dome]

Normalise Shadow Techniques.

[hollow spear]

50% of the time it works everytime

[short radish]

Normalise getting bug fixes on bugs negatively affecting dps

[swift tinsel]

yo imagine a world

[void ocean]

fix Nightstalker 😄

[swift tinsel]

aintnoway

[hollow spear]

Not sure sub needs 10-15% tbh

[haughty mural]

I think you guys exaggerate

[hollow spear]

Our damage profile is great

[keen dome]

I was right about the cloak buff, so I'm gonna make another bold prediction.

[haughty mural]

Yuh

[keen dome]

We'll get an aura buff (So will Outlaw and Assa) before the 5th, most likely the day or so before.

[hollow spear]

If we simmed 5.7 or so, they'd omeganerf us one week in

[haughty mural]

Ethereal playable for sub ?

[swift tinsel]

I just want bugfixes to both tier sets and to fix dn/mark and nimble bugs

[hollow spear]

Manifest it!

[haughty mural]

Yea so we get nerfed on the 12th ?

[keen dome]

Nah

[leaden prairie]

it was acceptable to buff ele by 20% while gthey were simming above us so

[void ocean]

nerfed mid-first pull

[swift tinsel]

nerfed on login

[hollow spear]

Banned

[keen dome]

Nerfed 0.8 seconds after hitting SecTec

[hollow spear]

For playing sub

[swift tinsel]

IP banned, computer nuked from orbit

Goldeneye laser'd

[haughty mural]

Rightfully 👍

[warm depot]

duh

cant buff what you cant see

[haughty mural]

Ele gets played more = I’ll have skyfury more often

[swift tinsel]

keep an eye out for Enhancedman in lfg

I gotchu

(if you're NA)

[haughty mural]

Im eu

[swift tinsel]

[hollow spear]

Can't wait to terrorise iGestalt's pugs next season

[void ocean]

isnt just being a pug enough terror

[keen dome]

hell yeah

[swift tinsel]

I'd make an eu account just to terrorize pugs ngl

[keen dome]

I got accused of barking at people in pugs

[swift tinsel]

lmao

[keen dome]

woof woof

[haughty mural]

[void ocean]

doggy style raid leading

[vale pine]

!sheet

[wicked jolt]

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[vale pine]

wdym, sub is the lowest simming

[void ocean]

wheres our ds

[vale pine]

not that high

[haughty mural]

It doesn’t exist

[grand wyvern]

where it belongs

[hollow spear]

Which orifice did sin tc pull their dps out of

[void ocean]

in our hearts?

[steel zinc]

wtf fatebound. Whispyr can tell me what you want but you will play that on fractilus

holy

Ok sub then 15% buff and sin just 10%

no meme compared to other specs

[leaden prairie]

if assa players cant play fatebound outalw cant either

let me tell you that

[vale pine]

XD

[void ocean]

https://imgflip.com/i/a1isfs

[vale pine]

ye...

just quickly simming hero talent switch without other talents

deathstalker rly good...

[swift tinsel]

they gotta take that tree out back

retool the whole thing

[void ocean]

and shoot it?

[swift tinsel]

it's already dead, its just smelly now

[slate lantern]

trickster french ew

[haughty mural]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-rambo-gif-12947929

[leaden prairie]

Fuu, outlaw need a trickster profile like bad bad

Fatebound is the most dogshit damage profile ever

[void ocean]

le trixteauir

[leaden prairie]

And we will not play it on most fights

[vale pine]

https://tenor.com/view/im-alive-frankenstein-gif-27215508

^ deathstalker tree

[leaden prairie]

Same for assa

[wheat edge]

If I have to sit and hold for 2min when my tier set is supposed to make it a 90 second spec I am shadowstepping into fractilus and dying

[swift tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-elmo-gif-12753335

[slate lantern]

left coin being top damage heckin poggers

[swift tinsel]

^ deathstalker

[leaden prairie]

But assa kinda propaganda to say fatebound is dead if it's 6% ahead if you ask me

[void ocean]

what r we playing on Salad Bar

[runic trail]

Is that in pure st only?

[swift tinsel]

raspberry vinaigrette personally

[leaden prairie]

yes

[runic trail]

Do we have many pure ST fights this raid? Fatebound simmed slightly ahead pure ST this season but it was only usable on lockenstock

[hazy breach]

I dont think the tierset bug for fatebound is implemented in simc, so its probably like 1.5% or so worse than it sims

[leaden prairie]

Ok then it's the same shit for outlaw lol

[hazy breach]

The bug is that the kingsbane buff you have which grants you the increased damage per poison hit only lasts 14 seconds

So the last 2 kingsbane ticks are just natty 0% increased

[void ocean]

so... axe, mace or sword, what to craft before 5th

[runic trail]

How is that still not fixed

[hazy breach]

Nothing ever gets fixed bud

[plush roost]

Lmaooo

Small indie company HOLY

[spice matrix]

!fuu

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[void ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-probpem-frustasi-brokenhearted-coffee-gif-9178915679395298962

[runic trail]

Eleem, simc question, how's the simc handing the cooldowns on fatebound given the cold blood nonsense?

Is it sending every 1m45 or whatever it lines up to

[hazy breach]

It waits for cold blood

So its roughly every 60s for kingsbane

[runic trail]

Does it wait for vanish as well for the deathmark?

[hazy breach]

Yes

[runic trail]

[hazy breach]

Because thats the best thing to do

[plush roost]

90 second spec btw

[hazy breach]

Good thing old 2p sucks ass

Otherwise theyd play 2+2

Since deathstalker 4p is also bad

[runic trail]

Yeah I thought it would be, I knew the 90 second thing was jank but I didn't know if it'd still be like a 'you get CDs 10 seconds earlier at least'

[hazy breach]

10 seconds earlier OR line it up with MA and your on-use

[dry plank]

next season does not look fun omg bug on bug on bug on all specs xD classic rogue design

[hazy breach]

Not more bugs than current season

[runic trail]

Yeah I didn't know how it'd look numbers wise, I was hoping there'd be some play around with 90second trinkets or something

But then MA is there

[plush roost]

At least sub is fun

I do enjoy me some high roll 6 coups in my cds

[strange chasm]

!fuu

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[umbral topaz]

Worth going sub with 2+2 set (using new tier)?
Or only really great with new 4-set?

[vale pine]

lol

[hazy breach]

Old 2p is bad

So unlikely

[umbral topaz]

What i thought, kinda doesnt work without 4-set 🫠

[vale pine]

assassiantion might 2p2p

we will go for new 4p

[short radish]

i also have this one

[vale pine]

i love how whoever did this edited a tree into it

to be fair, the tree fits the scene rly well

[short radish]

that's the best part of the meme. it's literally the same picture just with a sakura tree in it

but it does make it look better tbh

[steel zinc]

is 2p2 worth breaking old 4p?

sub

[vale pine]

sim angle

[nova cairn]

In the new season do you coup like outlaw does with its rules

[vale pine]

we play pmuch like we do atm

[nova cairn]

with the 2nd coup proc

You build to 6/7?

[tepid trellis]

nothing really changes

apart from storming between coups in blades

[nova cairn]

Outlaw is cursed in the fact we basically just double coup

[swift tinsel]

sometimes you can't send 2nd coup with 6/7

outside dance but it's w/e

[nova cairn]

I may get my rogue sub ready idk

[swift tinsel]

sub owns

just less so in keys

[nova cairn]

It more depends on how quick this guild I am in clears

[analog hearth]

!fuu

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[haughty mural]

Or toss ?

[swift tinsel]

if you want, storm is more dmg

not by much

[haughty mural]

Ikr

[vale pine]

a storm is comming ^^

[slate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-hurricane-season-was-over-eat-saul-silver-gif-15077642

[keen dome]

oh no

[tepid trellis]

I am the storm that is approaching
Provoking black clouds in isolation
I am reclaimer of my name
Born in flames, I have been blessed
My family crest is a demon of death

[swift tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736

[vale pine]

banger song

[cyan perch]

!fuu

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[covert storm]

if u have double coup up for a burst window, do u use before blades for ff stacks, or use in blades to benefit from 1 of the supercharges points?

or can u like, flag the coup -> normal rotation up to sec tec -> use the second coup

[sly shore]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

[tepid trellis]

sectech-coup-coup

[vale pine]

new subtlety rogue animations?

[nova cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/assnaadam-bndyz-gif-22835015

[haughty mural]

Is predesorienting gone on ptr ?
Iirc i did read somewhere that supercharged points are

[sly shore]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH

[nova cairn]

BBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSHHHHHH

[dry plank]

last time I watched his stream was rogue meta xD

[alpine wraith]

well something does more damage is more tanky and benefits more from buffs

[keen dome]

damn, 4,057 .io is wild

[smoky geyser]

Frost dk is just alot better than rogue for m+

[swift tinsel]

its a lot better than a lot of classes for m+

[plucky parrot]

!fuu

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[lucid jackal]

FDK is the best melee in the game and its not close

for both raid and M+

[dense geode]

isnt frost ass right now in raid

[alpine wraith]

no it is very strong

[crystal bone]

it was ass*

it is no longer

[dense geode]

is wcl fake news

[alpine wraith]

more like some things changed

after they nerfed uhdk 3 times

then buffed frost

[dense geode]

so ret and dh on wcl is fake

[north schooner]

wait do you mean live or ptr?

[crystal bone]

guy was referring to next tier

[dense geode]

oh not this tier

okay i see

[north schooner]

fdk is good on ptr ye

[dense geode]

is rogue bad

or mid

[void hound]

kinda but it doesnt matter (no clue about current ptr tuning)

[north schooner]

no fear they will do more tuning this week and everything will be alright

[swift tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-kiddo-guns-gif-19570543

MM still doing unethical amounts of damage

[hazy breach]

More on the mid side, but due to the almost excessive amounts of damage amps the raid has sub is probably gonna be quite good anyway

[lilac stag]

[hollow spear]

I am trading every 1% they are not buffing us by for every 2% they nerf FDK, MM and Diabolist by

I think a 5% aura buff would be fine, everything above that will just end up in us getting nerfed

[lilac stag]

So 21% to BP is out of the question?

[dense geode]

ty

[hollow spear]

that is totally on the menu

[alpine wraith]

@final wasp he is back oh no

i called the rain

[hollow spear]

Who's back?

[alpine wraith]

our boi owl

[hollow spear]

Man, I don't know any of the lore

Just saw that xaethron was apparently back. No clue who that is either.

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-5412563

[nova cairn]

“Lucky” us

[swift tinsel]

lol did he get banned again already

[void ocean]

what is going on

r we ddos-ed 😄

[swift tinsel]

I only know of xaethron from tangling with mafic on forums

[runic trail]

Who's the owl person?

[keen dome]

They roll in with rogue changes as if we're the official forums

[north schooner]

what makes you think that?

[astral axle]

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️ 👍

[alpine wraith]

he is a fan fiction writer

very prolific

always manages to surprise

[swift tinsel]

certainly not yargi doing 20-30% more than anyone else in aoe pulls while watching casual's stream

[keen dome]

And yet no suggesiton of a posion toggle

[alpine wraith]

even he knows that one is done forever

[north schooner]

nah it just so happens that MM players are naturally 20-30% more skilled

[swift tinsel]

my new favorite is Saifu claiming he's been personally nerfed by blizzard over 250 times because of his secrets

[north schooner]

crazy how nature does that

[swift tinsel]

holy based tho

[runic trail]

The forums are a strange place

[keen dome]

haha

[swift tinsel]

lemme find the post, its hilarious

[keen dome]

The only person they'll nerf here is ME and it's because I won't log off

[swift tinsel]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/grapple-is-my-bane-but-i-cant-stop/2133774/15 a fun read

[alpine wraith]

secret techs

[keen dome]

I know lots of things that no one knows, too.

[alpine wraith]

stack mastery

and vers

then just CRIT??¿¿

[swift tinsel]

lmao he stacks crit not anything else so his builders do more damage than his finishers

his actual words

[alpine wraith]

and now dont forget to proc your double unseens

[swift tinsel]

and he plays support rogue in dungeons

[north schooner]

ain't no way that he called step better than hook

[alpine wraith]

what a visionary

[swift tinsel]

prioritizing potion bombs over doing damage

[keen dome]

and even step to targets that you set up. huh

Grapple Hook is 100% contingent upon having LoS huh

[dawn summit]

i think this guy is legitimately suffering from some kind of delusion

[swift tinsel]

like I said, its a fun read

[keen dome]

so is Step lmao

[shadow snow]

who cares guys we bottom dps anyway. Shouldnt we consider a new class?

[swift tinsel]

NA rogue forums are a treat when those two get together

[north schooner]

I mean, it's mafic. It would be fun to read even if he described how to boil an egg

[final wasp]

Ill chose violence at some point

[nova cairn]

I see why they nerfed him

[void hound]

joker ass motherfucker

[dawn summit]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[alpine wraith]

but what if rogue had talent called

[nova cairn]

That 22 avg in lfr

[hazy breach]

I would advice against taking sims at face value without any additional thinking applied

[keen dome]

He should've tried my secret technique to get good damage in heroic fights that nobody else can do

[swift tinsel]

this would be peak content

"eggs are actually a paladin's alt, we see through your lies"

"water needs relentless strikes to boil because not enough energy otherwise"

"this burner temperature has more rng than Roll the Bones"

[north schooner]

"I don't know why BlizZard added a shell to the eggs, it's just so much harder to boil them like that"

[runic trail]

As much as we're idiots some times. At least we ain't rogue forum regulars

[astral axle]

but it is fun to let my brain just react to things

[lilac stag]

Don’t worry this is a repeat of s2 sims and that worked out so well for us.

[astral axle]

at least im not playing warrior again 😌

[final wasp]

[keen dome]

Tier list website that just randomises it every time you visit.

[lilac stag]

At least we’re not going into the next tier with an OP trinket again…

[alpine wraith]

yea prism is quite tame but powerful enough

even lilly is just ok to farm

and you can also use the nerfed crit trink even after the nerf

it is quite decent

if you are cursed with raid loot

[lilac stag]

at this point I think I’d rather be walking into the tier with radio and get 2 good weeks out of the spec.

[void ocean]

pacemaker is still gonna be among bis, right?

[keen dome]

I assume so

[alpine wraith]

it is very good depending on timers

[lilac stag]

then we can reminisce on how good sub was for prog in 12.0

[alpine wraith]

antenna can also highroll i think

[void ocean]

the what

[alpine wraith]

dont worry we will be top spec amongst rogue top 20 guilds

[swift tinsel]

pacemaker sigil and antenna were all within 0.2-0.4% iirc

[void ocean]

thats where i see myself in 20 years

[alpine wraith]

yea kinda close

[swift tinsel]

I'm sigil pilled

[keen dome]

I like pacemaker so i'll just farm another

[void ocean]

we have a trinket called antenna? cool

[alpine wraith]

flood is a dungeon with several good loot anyway

[swift tinsel]

yeah imagine witherbark branch orbs that give crit

[void ocean]

will be able to listen to radio between dances

[swift tinsel]

but they spawn on their own

[lilac stag]

antenna related to transmitter. it must be good

[swift tinsel]

orbs look the same as transmitter orbs

[void ocean]

might even enable music, who knows

[swift tinsel]

they're kissin' cousins

[lilac stag]

So you can’t see them

[void ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/splatoon-splatoon3-inkling-dance-dancing-gif-26937837

[keen dome]

they had the chance to have Transmitter 2.0 but funnier and they didn't take it

[shadow snow]

guys do you know what class plays similar like rogue but actually does dps in season 3? I am thinking of rerolling

[lilac stag]

Scarizard said no more good toys for you. I’m taking them all with me.

[haughty mural]

will they fix the coup buff till release ?

[void ocean]

god, still having ptsd from branch orbs and smolderon orbs and fckin orb chasing...

[haughty mural]

from the 4pc

[swift tinsel]

who knows

[alpine wraith]

who knows they never fixed this tier

[swift tinsel]

^^

[alpine wraith]

and the dps loss was bigger

[haughty mural]

:3

[warm marlin]

you mock him but he sees the vision

[alpine wraith]

yea he stacks PV and uses SoD to get rotten crit

before the juicer comes

i had an 8m crit with everything up

[swift tinsel]

wait wait wait

[alpine wraith]

that is BIG DMG

[swift tinsel]

mister lock n stalk beat his sectech

and everything else

omg

based gamer dept

[keen dome]

Siphoning stilleto is still terrible for rogue, right

[alpine wraith]

yep

[runic trail]

Yeah

[void ocean]

what is this cursed shit

[haughty mural]

maybe he is onto something

[swift tinsel]

he really is the most nerfed man alive

[haughty mural]

jokes on us

[lilac stag]

It always is.

[keen dome]

wait his circlet did more damage than his abilities??

[swift tinsel]

250 targeted nerfs and he's still the goat

[keen dome]

how

[runic trail]

Maybe goremaws is only bad because he decided to run it and blizz personally nerfed it, and he only talented into it to save us from goremaws

HE'S A HERO

[haughty mural]

goat

[runic trail]

yes hello

[alpine wraith]

like a train wreck

[astral axle]

[hollow spear]

can you please delete this

Thank you

[alpine wraith]

it has physical force

against our brains

[void ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[keen dome]

I love it

[steel zinc]

Why are NA people on av more vocal when they are just bad?

[hazy breach]

This has to be ragebait

[runic trail]

d....did he cold blood goremaws?

[keen dome]

They're playing on a level above any of us

[hollow spear]

His casts?

[hazy breach]

With rotten up ye

[astral axle]

if this speaks to what humanity can achieve

[runic trail]

[warm marlin]

not only did he cold blood goremaw's, he has it macroed with symbols so the rotten already guarantees the crit

[alpine wraith]

competitive sandbagging

[warm marlin]

[keen dome]

Did he also manually use slice and dice after pushing dance

[hollow spear]

He played that sequence just to fuck with us

[keen dome]

and.. also cheap shot?

[astral axle]

this is evidence we need AI tools to be taken away from us lest our worst cooks get produced on a massive scale

[haughty mural]

for danse obviously

let him cook

[hollow spear]

this is Marco Pierre White level cooking

[keen dome]

Cheap shotting the raid boss is amazing

[void ocean]

this is worse than "Dogs playing poker" picture

[haughty mural]

man if they didnt nerf him 250 times he would obviously only

[alpine wraith]

this is why the 1 button rotation

gained lots of traction

these people are the silent 98%

[keen dome]

One-button is a great tool for some people though.

[hollow spear]

this looks like he asked AI to create the single worst rotation

[alpine wraith]

he can afford to lose 2 globals in dance

[keen dome]

It's just typically the people who are very vocal and would benefit from it won't ever use it. Which is funny.

[alpine wraith]

if he uses at least 2 finishers on it

[warm marlin]

dance?

[shadow snow]

in my opinion its better to play with a rotation helper. Much more dps and its still easy to follow

[alpine wraith]

but that means he needs to go into the web

[hollow spear]

He needed it to cast rupture earlier

[alpine wraith]

maybe he downloads a virus and bricks his pc

[shadow snow]

you give something you take something else in return

[runic trail]

Whats with the random torch icon?

[hollow spear]

maybe he doesn't use finishers because he wants to protest against the cdr

[warm marlin]

idk hes spamming toys

[alpine wraith]

pvp brain macros with everything

to fill the screen

[warm marlin]

my favorite is this one 1 second before the fight ends

[keen dome]

Ye, but some people have other reasons to use it. A good friend of mine has issues with her wrist / joints that make playing the typical rotation a lot more taxing. Extremely benefical there.

[hollow spear]

nomen est omen

I am usually goonmaxing before raiding, so I need half an hour of OBR to recover

[north schooner]

can we have this pinned

[keen dome]

I've just noticed flagellation's icon

Incredible

[swift tinsel]

the ol' flag into blades

[keen dome]

23 seconds into the fight. mid-way through dance. After spending two symbols.

[swift tinsel]

and he takes Flickerstrike

[shadow snow]

i understand her situation. However for most people that is not the case. Also i believe a lot of people should be using rotation helpers. Especially in pugs. I still see people with 680+ ilvl doing less than 3m dps in dungeons.

[keen dome]

Ye, I think the helper is pretty good for that.

[shadow snow]

has she tried playing with the control key instead of shift. For example instead of doing shift-1 maybe control-1 would be better for her.

[keen dome]

Ye, she's tried. The one-button is the best solution and she's happy.

If it makes the game fun for someone, then that's all that matters.

[shadow snow]

true. we forget that most of the times.

[keen dome]

She only raids AotC, too.

[graceful crown]

fk i didnt laugh so much today

[keen dome]

Most people just wanna play the game and have fun, and aren't interested in optimitizing or playing their class to the tippity top. For some, the fun is just doing the content with friends. One button is great for that as an accessibility feature.

[west tide]

i saw on twitter it was a sub tier guys im excited to play it again ❤️

[keen dome]

hell yeah

[west tide]

i need to relearn the rotation

[graceful crown]

whats that rotation hahaha

fk so funny

that coldblood goremaw and dance after got me

[alpine wraith]

just pure unfiltered chaos

[north schooner]

it's the optimal rotation after 250 nerfs

[west tide]

is it still combo based like the big sec tech flag sblades..

[graceful crown]

hahahaha fk

[alpine wraith]

we still most of our dmg in cds yes

[graceful crown]

still laughing

so good

this is so fucking based

those seconds

that guy is giga chad, even posting at forums

[hollow python]

... ... ... . .. I one buttoned the whole mage tower achievement for the mount last week in one day on random alts

[keen dome]

Hell yeah

[lilac stag]

just a bunch of haters up in here

[north schooner]

wait a minute

[lilac stag]

dude living his best life

[graceful crown]

OH i c

[swift tinsel]

omg is that Bill Cipher

[keen dome]

There's no wrong way to play WoW

but......

[swift tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-cipher-gravity-falls-gif-16288621248247110878

[graceful crown]

hey he still wait 1 second after flag to go with blades, is he goating here?

[north schooner]

look at all those subs seething because they didn't discover this broken build first

[graceful crown]

i see, thats why blizz is not touching sub

there is a build we dont see thats op

mmmmmmmmmmm

[north schooner]

plot twist: this is the real rogue dev

[graceful crown]

oh :o

[swift tinsel]

I wanna know how tf he got his hands on this

[keen dome]

ahaha, what

[swift tinsel]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/archimonde/saifu/

[young mural]

this dude is actually insane

goremaw's

healer trinket

[keen dome]

321,598```

[swift tinsel]

he hasn't done heroic

[keen dome]

He primarily pvps

[swift tinsel]

so I have no idea how he got the trinket

[keen dome]

He bought it

Dinars

[young mural]

i think he really might've know all the hidden tricks, but they got nerfed before he could use it

[swift tinsel]

wait, that's purchaseable by rogue?

I didn't think it was possible since its a healer trinket

[swift tinsel]

I guess that is some hidden tech

[keen dome]

Swap it to All and you can buy all fo them

[young mural]

im pretty sure you can buy everything if you select all

[keen dome]

High5, same brainwave

[young mural]

🖐️

[young mural]

This really doesnt make a lot of sense either, he has 0 pvp gear this season

I mean everything about this man doesnt make sense so

[keen dome]

He has rings, et

weapons

[lilac stag]

This dude be living rent free in all of your heads.

[placid elk]

if they pvp they might cook some weird builds.
i pvped in wrath back in the day with this https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=50356/corroded-skeleton-key

because i could pop-it, vanish, and the shield would absorb dots, not breaking stealth.
DKs didnt knew what hit them

[keen dome]

he's my new hero

[left ledge]

how we lookin like on the sim stack boys

surely not bottom right

[dusty totem]

Surely not

[regal ingot]

I’m mostly curious to see how trinket tuning turns out because a few of those new raid trinkets are fun on sub haha

[fathom adder]

if i open with ss - flag - rupt, then dance, fill it with 8 gcds and would then use the 2nd dance inside of my cds, is it the correct way to use that 2nd dance asap but without symbols and use symbols when you can use sectec as the next or 2nd finisher + cb? Idk if i understand it correctly, in my mind it fits

[hollow python]

Yes, 2nd symbols is hit when your next 1 or 2 finishers are a cb sectec, usually when you see 10s left on sectec cd

[steel zinc]

When ca we expect trinket sims? I mean doing in mauelly rn just curious

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hollow spear]

don't think we usually do trinket sims

[swift tinsel]

you can take the profile in that sheet and do a Top Gear trinket sim

[vale pine]

^ #tc-research has copy/paste files for it even

[austere zodiac]

i believe

[lilac stag]

Not after 21% BP buff hits

[steel zinc]

ok boss will do

ty

[hexed sluice]

Feelycraft final boss

What a champion. A true wow enjoyer

[pliant topaz]

im MIA for 2 days what is this meta? what did i come back to

[swift tinsel]

we boilin potatoes

[pliant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-potato-hot-potato-boil-cooking-gif-12713697

real

[north schooner]

you snooze you lose

[swift tinsel]

the "I'm so confused by pvp" thread might be the biggest banger of them all

man taught Reckful how to gem stamina

it's like reading that Navy Seal copypasta

[pliant topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-fight-spongebob-fight-gif-17721615

[honest basin]

Yo that person is cooking. Like, not food, but like yk when a little kid is like "helping" so mom lets them stir an empty bowl? That kinda cooking

[tawny yacht]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[north schooner]

stirring the empty bowl is a thankless job

[honest basin]

I appreciate his vast knowledge though, I now know what not to do

[astral axle]

new sim apl magic, just do the inverse of what that dude doin

[warm depot]

where does the sigil trink even drop from

[honest basin]

Wait wrong gif I meant this one

[steel zinc]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9fV4VgVGW8qNHAsTUaCocA trinket sims for anyone who wants to know

[swift tinsel]

dh bosses

[warm depot]

whats dh LMFAO

im like trying to think but i cant rofl

[swift tinsel]

demon hunter council

[warm depot]

ohhhhh

[swift tinsel]

'optional' boss

[slate lantern]

dawnhreaker

[warm depot]

what the hell ive been out of the loop for this raid

why are they optional lol

[keen dome]

I don't think they will be, but Blizz seems to want them to be?

[warm depot]

interesting

[keen dome]

You don't have to fight them to complete the raid, and they aren't in the way of anything.

But, like. Why wouldn't you fight them? Unless they're extremely overtuned i guess.

[swift tinsel]

ye they've got that trinket and all the cloak-boost boots

[warm depot]

yeah you basically have to do them it looks like

[swift tinsel]

which idk how the effect stacks up vs reg boots

[warm depot]

the cantrip boots are too good i thought

[swift tinsel]

have not looked into it

well for us they're itemized quite well

so we'll want them regardless if possible

[warm depot]

yeah

[swift tinsel]

but I haven't looked at the cloak effect since it was buffed but I assume it's decent

[warm depot]

other ppl in my guidl were saying the cantrip is too good to pass up though

[hexed sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-aura-infinite-aura-infinity-aura-max-aura-gif-12685752499691777019

[glacial wind]

What colour is the tempered potion

[bleak night]

pineapple fanta

[hollow spear]

-37k for the delve trinket

[steel zinc]

that doesnt really matter its still bis on any cleave etc fight

also getting it at champ track is pretty easy and its bis in aoe

what I am saying is we have options

[hollow spear]

Yeah, pretty decent options

Competition for forge is probably too tight

[steel zinc]

i am happy to not need it

[hollow spear]

Praying for being top dog on prism

[steel zinc]

like id rather get prism its a fun trinket imo

[hazy breach]

Sad that it doesnt stack upto 18 or 20 stacks

But it is what it is

@tribal blade You hate to see it

[vale pine]

so close

[pliant seal]

Are we hyped for the next season!

[lucid jackal]

WOOOOO

[alpine wraith]

BIG CRITS

[bleak night]

I really like the theme of next patch

No more goblins, back to void and ethereal and stuff

And tazavesh

[vestal escarp]

[bleak night]

[swift tinsel]

I am gonna miss watching people get splattered by the goblin carts

[bleak night]

We probably died more to the cars than the first half of the raid

That would be a metric I'd love to see tracked

[keen dome]

Vexie spawn animation killing people was a lot of fun

[runic trail]

I'm still annoyed getting killed by a car in stealth. It drove next to me, turned to face me and then splat.

Its like the flame turrets in mechagon

[bleak night]

Yeah I had one do that to me and proc cheat lmao

At the right distance you can make them stop and look at you and have people run into them

[runic trail]

First time in mechagon the flame turret turned to blast me

https://m.twitch.tv/mozoplays/clip/TangentialDifficultOstrichWTRuck-4QL6e0Tgoe7iGgq8?desktop-redirect=true

Not my clip but my guild said I was being paranoid

[pliant seal]

i guess our stats will stay the same (mastery/vers)

[chrome palm]

You can also distract them

And people just run straight into them

[bleak night]

[steel zinc]

we are of all the sims I have seen in this sheet we are the only ones using it as bis. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLyu3VAUk1WI2SPx-WGVIVqwDA7pie5UwrRG-gL6oy8/edit?gid=1774556142#gid=1774556142
Take the sheet with a massive grain of salt.

[steel zinc]

depends what the tuning is^^

[pliant seal]

i just hope next week subs get more buffs ;s

[serene notch]

Here’s what icy veins thinks of us https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/mythic-ptr-dps-tier-list Mythic+ DPS Rankings: PTR Tier List for The War Within (Patch 11.2 / Season 3) - World of Warcraft - Icy Veins

[pliant seal]

lol

[serene notch]

Commence dooming kek

[bleak night]

Thank God I finally know what to think

[lilac stag]

Finally an accurate tier list.

[chrome palm]

What kind of tier list ends at b

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-bullish-car-kid-kids-gif-27338537

[bleak night]

They compliment subs impressive package

[north schooner]

tier list that has 6 tiers but only uses 3 letters

[bleak night]

That's pretty nice

[bleak night]

It's the new meta apparently

Never go below b

[chrome palm]

Everyone puts assa in a for their tier list apparently by default

Probably because it starts with a

[bleak night]

Because it sounds less negative to day something is b tier lmao

[serene notch]

“Yea you should meet my friend, he’s….nice”

lol

[north schooner]

I have a better idea: S++, S+, S, S-, S--, S---

[steel zinc]

we gotta doom. Boomkin got 8% aura buff

we need jesus

[lilac stag]

we need more than Jesus

[chrome palm]

“Rogues impressive utility package” sorry are we playing the same class lmfao

[lilac stag]

We need DAMAGE AMPS

[steel zinc]

utility KEKW

[chrome palm]

Insane utility of “living 1 shots” which no one class can do of course

[bleak night]

Don't take my impressive package away from me

[lilac stag]

if you’re a mage you can survive 5 one shots.

[bleak night]

But yeah it's certainly a take

[chrome palm]

These people think we are in tomb or something

[pliant seal]

our tier set for next patch doenst look promising

[chrome palm]

Subs tier set is one of the strongest

[serene notch]

Whatever, I’m over here excited about next season and sub still max funs per hour.

[north schooner]

that shaman buff was nuts

[steel zinc]

yeah its insane for st

we need that

[chrome palm]

Casual 40% buff

[runic trail]

I read that and its just... I have utility?

I stab boss, I atrophic

[lilac stag]

We’re fine according to green names.

[runic trail]

That's about it

[serene notch]

I think the context is m+

[chrome palm]

Yeah rogue has the worst util package in m+ as far as I’m concerned

[steel zinc]

nah we are not. Fine is like being shit for now the whole exp.

[chrome palm]

The game is just not made for ST stuns and shroud to be useful

[steel zinc]

we are ok at best

[runic trail]

I used to make bosses not parry BUT THEY TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME

[hazy breach]

Yeeee bro rogue was shit in nerubar

[lilac stag]

It’s a useless fight. Go back to s2. It was the same shit sims. Was told we’re fine. We weren’t.

fucking damage amp copium

[runic trail]

I would like the utility is all I'm saying

[lilac stag]

I hope atrophic doesn’t work on shit in raid.

[astral axle]

bro we are not fine, we are not ok

we are palatable ffs

[honest basin]

Nah dude we were too good in nerubar they gotta bring us down a peg

[hollow spear]

I'm constantly getting compliments for my impressive package

[astral axle]

no, sorry, we're copacetic. get it right

[runic trail]

Dunno I thought rogue was alright last 2 seasons, not done a whole lot of digging into s3 stuff mostly due to it being subject to change

[honest basin]

I was unironically told by an officer in my guild that I'm too negative all the time bc yk, patch notes come out, sub not mentioned, cycle repeats as infinitum

[steel zinc]

A class is fine if it is **considered **to be used double in higher progression double.

[lilac stag]

Is it purple? 🍆

[steel zinc]

Like mage you played every tier since DF double mage

[honest basin]

So I need to try to "be more positive"

[steel zinc]

rogue DFs1 DFS3

[serene notch]

Yikes

[steel zinc]

their is no positive anymore guys

[honest basin]

To which I said "ok" and haven't joined discord since xd

[steel zinc]

its joever

[hollow spear]

Depends on how often I'm jorkin

[honest basin]

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/the-revolution-has-begun-area51-ready-to-attack-gif-15323378

[pliant seal]

i mean alot can still change in a couple of weeks

[hollow spear]

I'm chilling

[lilac stag]

New to rogue?

[pliant seal]

no i just have copium next to me

[hollow spear]

Pointless dooming never got us anywhere

[pliant seal]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[astral axle]

i'm looking forward to playing sub and having fun

[honest basin]

The opposite also never got us anywhere

[steel zinc]

you must be new here. We got nerfed with a not functioning tier piece before the new raid even openend.

[pliant seal]

.

[steel zinc]

it does the louder a class cries the faster devs buff it. Thats not a meme thats a fact

[hollow spear]

You're kinda omitting the fact that it was omega broken

[jaunty heath]

It would’ve been broken for like 2 weeks ye

[hollow spear]

Ten people in a discord ain't changing nothing haha

[serene notch]

Instructions unclear BP buffed by 20% , trickster no longer applies fazed.

[pliant seal]

nice rotation :p

[honest basin]

You wanna talk about a nice rotation

[runic trail]

Rogue by default stopping bosses from parrying would be nice though I have no clue if it'd be busted or not

[hollow spear]

Hell yeah

[runic trail]

Not again

[honest basin]

[hollow spear]

Need more of these people

Helps with parsing

[honest basin]

Real

Y'all gotta play worse so I can make the funny pink number happen thanks

[spice matrix]

Cheap shot slice and dice

[runic trail]

I DIDN'T NOTICE THE SLICE AND DICE

[runic trail]

[near fog]

you got that buff that makes cheapshot free, means you should use it its clearly important

[honest basin]

Holy shit, he's on to something

[spice matrix]

It’s for tier stacks

[honest basin]

Danse Macabre value

Trust

[lucid jackal]

litreally bottom 2

Atero also doesn't work on this entire raid (1 encounter)

If were not first were last mentality lmao

[alpine wraith]

sub was kinda decent on ansurek

when dust existed

as you could move things to help quite a bit on important parts

now after it was on farm yea

w/e

and on court i would play it 10/10 vs assa

[lucid jackal]

It was very good at killing webs

and platform 1

[alpine wraith]

if you were careless you lost mark

[lucid jackal]

which were very important parts of the fight

[alpine wraith]

and it was JOEVER

ansurek same

having to end p1 with DN

[honest basin]

Sub was genuinely not bad™ single target as well, I gapped the fuck outta my whole team on ky'veza

[alpine wraith]

to put it on a mob

ah maybe that was raid diff

i got destroyed on ky veza

had also some unluck choosers

[hollow spear]

This sub rn

Dooming a la bonne heure

[honest basin]

I guess gapped TF out of is a bit of an overstatement but

Still was a solid bit of damage for a pure ST fight

[alpine wraith]

yea you did way more dmg than me

[honest basin]

Do u know what the secret is

[alpine wraith]

big gamer

just dont get chosen to do mechanics

i always fail that skill check

[honest basin]

Perfect cd timings bc I never got a mechanic LMAO

Exactly LMAOOOO

[shell willow]

Lol

[alpine wraith]

same when i hire people i get 200 resumees and just shred 100 dont want unlucky people

working with me

[honest basin]

I told my raid lead every week "I stg I can get a 99 if I can just not get mechs"

[hollow spear]

The trick is to ignore mechanics and wipe the raid

[honest basin]

He told me gl boxo

Bozo

[hollow spear]

Until you get the parse

[alpine wraith]

i did same dps with my mirror with 10 ilvl less as my main on stix

just because i didnt get chosen on any ball

[honest basin]

Dude ball rng on stix actually tilting as fuck

Like every week it's a different timing 😩 so cringe

But I started playing outlaw on that fight cuz idk yolo I guess

[bleak night]

Send ball straight into boss

Ez

If you wipe other people should've done it

[honest basin]

"I lagged"

[lilac stag]

Pick up everything and drop em 40 yards from the boss

[bleak night]

Just let ball time out on opposite side of the room yeah

If I can't pad no one can

[tough knot]

Mechanics are for cars

[shell willow]

Lol we are rogues, we dont do mechanics nor do we target swap.

[lilac stag]

Wrong channel for your target swapping issues.

[hazy breach]

Thats some assassination type shit

[bleak night]

[lilac stag]

sub target swaps so well, the DH and I are killing range’s adds 1/2 the time.

[lucid jackal]

Excited to hear another season of this

[hazy breach]

Its gonna be even worse this season guy

Because theres more fights

Where the target swapping is an issue for assa

The trick is to just play sub instead

[lilac stag]

I think you mean outlaw. It sims higher.

[hazy breach]

Im not playing outlaw either way so

[bleak night]

[hazy breach]

I played Sub in DF s3 when outlaw was the best non-godcomp spec

[slate lantern]

[hazy breach]

So

[lilac stag]

non target swapping assa it is. Oh wait Whispyr said they’re shit.

[slate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[bleak night]

fatebound gaming

[lilac stag]

sir this is a Wendy’s

[bleak night]

https://tenor.com/view/professor-layton-clive-dove-future-luke-lost-future-unwound-future-gif-24353193

[pearl swan]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[brisk onyx]

Does storm+vanish still trigger tfd in PTR?

[hazy breach]

I dont believe so based on what ive heard

But it should start ticking once you leave combat now atleast

[brisk onyx]

🫡

[pearl swan]

interesting we change wep enchants

[chrome palm]

Radiant already marginally better outside of pure st

[hazy breach]

Ye the stat ones end up better

[tribal blade]

no shot, that's tragic

[hazy breach]

It doesnt particularly matter which one though

Just dont get the haste one

[hazy breach]

Ye sucks

[tribal blade]

did you hear of the evoker tech to extend the amp on last boss

[hazy breach]

Ye

[tribal blade]

yeah that really sucks 🙁

what bricked it

deaths?

[hazy breach]

Yep

[tribal blade]

damn

yeah it's really easy to die on 20 rook

i tried 1 20 rook, and it honestly felt fine until people started dropping like flies in the corridors after 1st boss

would that have been your resil 20

[plush roost]

https://www.twitch.tv/charrend/clip/TawdryResourcefulRadicchioM4xHeh-Dx1RzDqVVZQ1E_DV

Dont shadowstep

leaping warriors

[hazy breach]

Unlucky

[plush roost]

I love homie keys

[tribal blade]

lol classic

especially enjoyed someone freaking out at the end

[short radish]

yeah that happened to me on gallywix

stepped to a warrior

never again.

[tribal blade]

@plush roost @hazy breach btw are there a lot of resil key sales going on

[hazy breach]

No idea

[tribal blade]

i have a feeling there is

which makes me mondo depression

[north schooner]

fabricated video, shadowstep isn't going to fail to reach a target

[brisk onyx]

lamo this surf boy

[bleak night]

🏄‍♀️ 🏄‍♂️

👍

[north schooner]

respect the 🐐

[warm marlin]

Technically he’s not wrong, grapple is horrifically bugged in non instanced content

Short character models have a tough time getting around

[tribal blade]

yeah that's actually an instance of him having a point

but when you spam that many times on the forums

you're bound to have some correct points

once in a while

[warm marlin]

Never had it fail in instanced stuff though

[upper narwhal]

Grapple was amazing and Bliz decided to fuck it because it “trivialised open world content” in Shadowlands

[bleak night]

the grapple fiasco

[tribal blade]

yeah i remember suddenly everything became los

on grapple

[upper narwhal]

Who gives a fuck about how easy or hard a treasure is to collect

[bleak night]

me swapping to outlaw to grapple up that one specific tree to collect the treasure in korthia

[north schooner]

treasures are the real end game content

[tribal blade]

ME TOO

[upper narwhal]

Another victim of SL

[tribal blade]

funny thing is the vast majority of wow, the content they do in game is open world stuff

so you have tons of people complaining on the forums about it i can imagine

[upper narwhal]

BFA grapple was goated you could legit Spider-Man your way up anything

[tribal blade]

there's basically no people complaining about the stuff we think is wrong on the forums

like FW/shadowed finishers/sectec issues

[upper narwhal]

BRB rerolling outlaw to optimise my treasure collecting

[north schooner]

that's partly because they are not obvious to spot

[tribal blade]

yeah exactly

casual playerbase has no idea they're even a problem

[swift tinsel]

Idk grappling up mountains like Spider-Man and gliding to sepulcher raid island before you could fly/port was peak content

[north schooner]

there are so many attacks happening each second you cannot notice unless you analyse a log

[tribal blade]

so the devs become inundated with complaints about trivial things i can imagine

[north schooner]

I expect that it's a low hanging fruit thing mostly. If these bugs are tricky and not particularly impactful, they just don't allocate time to them

[tribal blade]

oh they are for sure tricky haha

a scrap the spells completely type angle

[north schooner]

and if they really got rid of QA a couple weeks ago it will only get worse

[errant ferry]

Every time I see a player who knows what they are doing playing sub in m+ on PTR they are absolutely blasting

[hazy breach]

Its not frost DK or MM hunter, but ye its pretty solid

[errant ferry]

I know tier lists are stupid and don’t mean anything, but I think people are underestimating sub on them so far. Not saying he we will be meta but I think as it stands now it may be a pretty good sub season

[hazy breach]

Its absolutely not the worst spec in the game as a certain list put it

[bleak night]

[lucid jackal]

Melee on the whole seems tuned, less than casters

First time in a long time

But these fights have movement

And damage amps are going to help sub a lot

[hazy breach]

Context was m+ guy But ye the sentiment is pretty much the same either way

[lucid jackal]

[tribal blade]

which build is doing the best right now

[bleak night]

the one with an incredible utility package

[tribal blade]

haha

meant which sub build

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tribal blade]

it makes me so mad seeing PV talented

[north schooner]

"see, people use PV, no need to change it "

[hazy breach]

I would recommend
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or the same but swap DB into shadowcraft

[clever delta]

Why we always bottoming in all pre season charts

[north schooner]

bottoming is what a sub does usually

[bleak night]

class fantasy

i see no issue here

[clever delta]

We just have sp rerolled warlock meanwhile I can eat d as only rogue hehe

Idk how those dmg amps help us as we dont have most of burst

We dont have most now and in s3 it's even worse

[hazy breach]

❓

In this current tier our burst is on par with MM and Dev during BL

Outside of BL its not even close

[chrome palm]

The only class that can outburst on live sub is MM in lust with good rng

[bleak night]

the damage amps also arent 4 business days long like vexie

[chrome palm]

Also you can time 2nd sec tech on add fights like gallywix

[bleak night]

so benefits sub a lot more than the current one

[chrome palm]

If you wann see how sub can burst look at how much add damage sub can do vs anyone else

On gallywix I mean***

[pearl swan]

are the finality/DB bugs fixed?

[hazy breach]

Dunno what youre referring to

But there hasnt been any fixes recently

[spare quiver]

we jsut play sub this tier nop?

[lucid jackal]

yep

[short radish]

yes because i'd rather drag my balls over 100km of shredded glass than play sin again

(i'll probably play sin for council)

[fleet wharf]

damn, I didn't sign up to learn about your kinks

[short radish]

[plucky parrot]

for this build, we prioritize shuriken tornado outside of cds to mass apply ruptures before going into blades/ dance etc yeah?

[lucid jackal]

Er

I dont think ull want to do that

[rocky ocean]

[short radish]

isnt it a good sin fight?

[warm marlin]

Outlaw fight baby

[lucid jackal]

I think the amount of target swapping will make that fight a practical nightmare

But yeah Outalw or sub probs

[warm marlin]

🔫

[lucid jackal]

Realistically it is just an outlaw fight

[short radish]

time to ruin my wrists

[bleak night]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-cat-cute-kitten-gif-15214073

outlaw gaming lets go

[coarse bronze]

!def

😦

[west tide]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[steel zinc]

Sin imo next tier will be cooked by Mark

[left ledge]

they're buffing us this upcoming week i think

or maybe nerfing

[teal prawn]

What about no changes

[steel zinc]

!bugs

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet | Github Tracker

[steel zinc]

How about bug fixing?

How about tier set working?

[teal prawn]

[short radish]

technically them fixing the bug where nimble allowing all melee to not have their abilities being parried is a buff for us

because that means everyones dps goes down

while ours stays the same

well every other melee that is

[steel zinc]

That bug is fixed on ptr

So no more stealth raid buff

[short radish]

yeah

but we still dont get parried

so really

half the raid got nerf'd

except for us

[steel zinc]

[short radish]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[shadow snow]

i asked for sims in dk dc and they say they are useless.....

[rocky ocean]

They are if you aren’t using them for gear

[lucid jackal]

TRUTH NUKE

[steel zinc]

Yeah because topping sims means your dogwater in raid

Makes 0 sense

[graceful crown]

fdk is the most op right now

so idk what they're crying about

[hollow spear]

I'm not sure they're crying about anything

They probably just don't want to reconfirm via sims how broken they are

Anything to evade the hammer

[graceful crown]

Everyone who watches 2 or 3 streams knows that fdk is the most strong dps on the table

how clueless can u be saying that they are useless

[shadow snow]

i am not saying that sims are everything, but they can help with theorycrafting

[short radish]

if the dk discord told you to jump off a cliff would you?

[daring marlin]

A guildie got gapped by a fury warrior as fdk , he said he will try warrior

[runic trail]

I wouldn't need the prompting in the first place

[short radish]

if you jump off a cliff it gives you a 5% dps increase

[runic trail]

Builds up more speed for the death from above

[daring marlin]

In s2 i never invited a single boomie uhdk, guess who are in the list this season