yeah those dmg logs from gallawix were upside down i forgot 😄
#subtlety
clever delta
shut ridge
delete outlaw
fallen crescent
Make outlaw into new aug
shut ridge
make outlaw into full ranged
alpine wraith
make aug into outlaw
fallen crescent
weary crag
guys do u just stand and auto at full cp to wait for 12 stored for the big sec technique?
delicate gulch
!tea
wicked joltBOT
Thistle tea use:
It is recommended to macro Thistle Tea with Shadow Dance like this:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
modest delta
Are yall sitting in stealth waiting for tfd in m+? Even after tank pulls?
Thoughts?
night sparrow
Is it mandatory to always have 0cp before symbols+dance ?
vale pine
no, you can symbols and dance on 6+ cp too
night sparrow
into evis > backstab > ST I guess
tepid trellis
modest delta
Are yall sitting in stealth waiting for tfd in m+? Even after tank pulls?
@tepid trellis good sir do you do this?
tepid trellis
if its close yes
night sparrow
While dancing after 2nd burst dance being 2 - 1 - 2, do you hold SecTec for cold blood ?
(only 1 dance between two burst)
tepid trellis
just only use CB in the 2nd dance in cds
and just never use it outside
not worth the risk
modest delta
and just never use it outside
I said this and someone was flaming me yesterday
saying theres no risk
hazy breach
If you want to use it outside it needs to be literally when its ready
Not 5 seconds later
modest delta
If you want to use it outside it needs to be *literally* when its ready
this fella!
night sparrow
hahahaha
modest delta
you felt it :p
shell delta
when my shadowstrike gives me 5 or lower cp in SC, do i just send it or another SS?
hazy breach
Yes with the caveat of doing it immediately when its ready theres no risk
But if you start delaying its bad
molten citrus
when my shadowstrike gives me 5 or lower cp in SC, do i just send it or another ...
Ye
SS
shell delta
tyy
twilit phoenix
i can only get a non-cd cb off reliably in keys
in raid I end up holding it like 90% of the time
krill issue I guess idk
weary crag
one armed bandit is quite fun for melee!
twin meadow
chrome palm
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
quick latch
is worth crafting 2 675? daggers?
shadow lance
quick latch
ok so i wanna craft boots or cloak , i got myth boots , i guess imma go for cloak
lilac stag
Or neck
swift tinsel
Craft 1 dagger if you don't have one
hazy breach
Neck, gloves or bracers are fine too. Can chuck em into top gear and see what it says
But either way its fine
lilac stag
neck is a cheap recraft when we all swap to assa/outlaw 
quick latch
Craft 1 dagger if you don't have one
already got one 675 dagger
kind bluff
I'm doing pvp neck and using the mechagon cloak so I'm going with boots for sure at the moment at least
fickle mason
**Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:**```yaml
#Showtooltip Shadow Dance
/cast [bonusba...
Where is this useful?
lilac stag
For people to lazy to have backstab on a keybind
tepid quartz
!wa
wicked joltBOT
woeful rain
anyone have targeted spells m+ WA for this season??
hollow spear
spent all past week farming floodgate
What for? Trinket?
sudden bison
God has nothing to do with it
It was the power of friendship
And your determination
lucid jackal
Get ready to learn thaddius
keen dome
Hell yeah! Congrats
obtuse shard
nice how many melees u guys running, me and other rogue benched for this boss
native zodiac
we had 5 melees
celest night
!up
wicked joltBOT
native zodiac
!wa
wicked joltBOT
solemn lance
Did I see somewhere that after our first couple of flag burts you want to hold dance if flag has less then 40 seconds left on CD?
native zodiac
@lucid jackal transmitter is so cooked on sprocket lmao
unborn lagoon
can we cloak the soaks on 2nd boss priory?
native zodiac
you can soak then cloak to remove the debuff
if you soak with cloak i think you still get the debuff
hazy breach
I was fairly sure it didnt remove the stacks
But maybe i only tried it with cloak up
Either way you can just feint and it doesnt do that much
native zodiac
ye you need to soak and then cloak
unless they changed something, havent done the dungeon in a while
hazy breach
Ive just played it with dks that just soak all of them
Most recently, but ye i could be wrong
lucid jackal
is the fight fun
Ye
solemn lance
NVM misinterpreted that. flags off CD, 1 charge of SD and second needs to be roughly 40 seconds left on CD
to fit it in
alpine wraith
30 secs to be safe
cobalt edge
it seems that on cauldron being in stealth (even in dance) prevents you from getting the Blistering Spite
strong ingot
!wa
wicked joltBOT
strong ingot
!macros
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
serene gust
Hey so I’m starting into new spec from assassination, how’s the sub spec looking for raid?
young mural
Hey so I’m starting into new spec from assassination, how’s the sub spec looking...
good real good
serene gust
The add fights are just killing me dps wise so hoping a swap may help
twilit phoenix
sin is still prolly the move for stix idk
and I think outlaw is better for cauldron tbh
young mural
@vale pine I have a niche question. How much of a DPS loss/gain is it to Shuriken Storm (with rotten to apply Find Weakness) in our first global during dance in AOE situations? (Especially big pulls in dungeons)
Im just conflicted and trying to get the most out of my burst windows in big packs.
modest delta
can someone pls explain why circlet is simming lower than same ilvl rings
how does that make any sense :/
misty dome
Hey so I’m starting into new spec from assassination, how’s the sub spec looking...
it's fun, lining up burst windows can be a fun "problem" to solve, different from sin for sure
i like to swap specs between seasons to keep things fresh... as long as "fresh" means "rogue"
young trench
Im just conflicted and trying to get the most out of my burst windows in big pac...
you mean first global in dance right?
plush roost
can someone pls explain why circlet is simming lower than same ilvl rings
The secondaries on circlet just dont matter as much on this spec compared to assa, we really like mast/verse and stormbringers gives crit/haste yucky
young trench
not first global when entering a pack
young mural
you mean first global in dance right?
exactly
hazy breach
can someone pls explain why circlet is simming lower than same ilvl rings
Are you simming with legendary skipper
and/or the lightning one instead of the stats
alpine wraith
yea windsinger is better
modest delta
ya legendary skipper
worthy ginkgo
Should i just get the pvp neck, im over this struggle
plush roost
exactly
Flawless form proc if its your first global, danae stack, wasting a rotten charge, shadowstrike with nimble does a LOT of dmg
modest delta
what gems should we be using?
alpine wraith
stormbringer/fathom/windsinger
plush roost
Even then, ritual bone band + priory ring sims within 2k of circes + 1 for me
hazy breach
Ye its like 665-670 where it gets replaced
plush roost
Yerp
plush roost
Truuu
fading vector
log
modest delta
yall are geniuses for the ring swap
i coulda been r1 for TOP
i need to start reading patch notes huge mast diff
static knoll
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.!sod
wicked joltBOT
Macro to prevent accidental uses of extra charges: #showtooltip Symbols of Death /castsequence reset=2 Symbols of Death,null /cqs
west arch
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
swift tinsel
Usually yeah
modest delta
so kinda just 30s of barely doin shi
just backstab evis XD
i need to do that more, i end up just holding flag cuz i dont have dances
cuz im buns
swift tinsel
You wouldn’t really gain much by greeding dance but you’d be losing a whole lot of damage in flag
Or have to delay it
modest delta
yeah
twilit phoenix
just have 29k mastery
I have almost 24k verse with flask
And that’s missing vers on gloves/boots
rough jewel
Hello folks, which trinkets bis for M+? same as raid or?
hazy breach
yep
fading hinge
Has anyone had targeting issues on sub recently I’ve got sticky targeting on, in big pulls it’ll randomly jump to another target im not even facing and on ST boss I’ll just randomly drop and have to retarget
lucid jackal
30 seconds of time btw
hazy breach
This is what PEAK performance looks like
modest delta
30 seconds of time btw
LMAOO
modest delta
did we stop saving coup de grace for dances?
nah but he probably could gain another
in that time
or at the very least near the end of flag window
celest estuary
And how do you weave that lull in M+? Some mobs have amazing dps and some you just sit back and have a cuppa?
alpine wraith
m+ you have more dances but yea you do have those off times
plush roost
Yall ever send dance sec tec in m+ without symbols?
Like you're waiting 40 seconds for flag and symbols charges and you're nearly capped on dances
So much cp refund from aoe I'm not sure if its ever worth
alpine wraith
sometimes you can do if there is big offtime
plush roost
Yeah thats what i figured pretty rare that happens tho
alpine wraith
usually you do have some symbols but not always
plush roost
Yeah if its a giga pack where i sent 3 charges and 3 dances
Then i know i only have 1 extra to work with for a bit
keen dome
brisk raptor
Is offhand very important with sub?
brisk raptor
Ok thanks
keen dome
Just make sure it's a dagger
fleet acorn
Is that True? I always use blades before first Dance/ tech
- Second Shadow Dance charge during Flagellation / use Shadow Blades.
twilit phoenix
30 seconds of time btw
Guide available?
shrewd shadow
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxnn-fQci3eI3GkXEh-8gjoOfG8oO3TnS8?si=mgEQZYqETiMe2ig...
all hidden action bars? lol what is this madness
random hare
all hidden action bars? lol what is this madness
?
U don’t know ur keybinds or what
civic oyster
are yall generally holding dance at about 30 secs till flag/blades
I usually greed the extra dance and maybe have 1 finisher after first dance ends before the other comes off cd. Not sure if it's optimal but seems better to me? At least that's how cds work out for me with lust on pull. Probably different for subsequent cycles.
sharp kernel
Good time to be a sub enjoyer
modest delta
And how do you weave that lull in M+? Some mobs have amazing dps and some you ju...
im unethical in m+ s
so
modest delta
I usually greed the extra dance and maybe have 1 finisher after first dance ends...
yeah this is the exact reason i was struggling
because i did that
i stopped doing it im doing way more dps
i just felt bad bc im not doing shit for so long holding it but it's worth it in the long run
civic oyster
I'll try holding then and see how it goes I haven't been too concerned with optimization since I've been missing 4 set lol
sharp kernel
And how do you weave that lull in M+? Some mobs have amazing dps and some you ju...
I generally will weave one set of cds and then one set of dance/tech window, and just go back and forth until about the pack before a boss and sit on flag/blades and just send techs to kill the pack
wraith vigil
tranquil garden
Has anyone had targeting issues on sub recently I’ve got sticky targeting on, in...
I had this happen all the time with sticky targeting, ended up turning it off and it got better
edgy marlin
when do we drop Circlet please?
hybrid tree
new to rogue, a lot of the time when im holding cds for lineup with flagellation/shadow blades, i run into low energy and combo points, to the point i cant do anything but sit there and melee (sometimes i vanish/arcane torrent as belf but thats about it), is it normal or can i change something?
hybrid tree
lucid jackal
its a feature
potent nimbus
sin main here learning opener for sub, should i go on wowhead or look at warcraft logs
random hare
new to rogue, a lot of the time when im holding cds for lineup with flagellation...
It isn’t shadowlands sub rogue xdd
hybrid tree
idk what this means, if its normal and i should get used to it then sure, just trying to find out if i can improve that
lucid jackal
sin main here learning opener for sub, should i go on wowhead or look at warcraf...
Wowhead
Logs might be different but slightly worse
lucid jackal
idk what this means, if its normal and i should get used to it then sure, just t...
Its intended to be afk outside of Cd's ye
hybrid tree
alright
quick latch
https://i.imgur.com/xLyJDFm.png
should i stick with the pvp trinket? i tought the honey buzzer is bis
haughty widget
where did you see it was bis
quick latch
lucid jackal
alpine wraith
that is outlaw
kinda weird it got there but yea it is only from m+ kinda weird
yea it does say raid trinkets are stronger
quick latch
mmh okay got it ty
rotund depot
hey guys, dont want to seem impatient, i was just wondering the rough timeframe for a log to be checked through a !logs channel. thanks
short radish
hey guys, dont want to seem impatient, i was just wondering the rough timeframe ...
sometime between now and the end of time
shell willow
dying for an upgraded cloak and pants
alpine wraith
i did so many dungeons this last 2 weeks holy
ember mural
!up
wicked joltBOT
eager patrol
is it normal that like multiple 658 rings I have
already outsim circlet
since wowhead post had 665 shown as replace ilvl
hazy breach
No
eager patrol
or guess the mastery buff
hexed dagger
for those who were actually in on Stix. how did you find trying sub vers sin?
alpine wraith
sub is good just be very aware of the timings
strange shore
Are we just yolo’ing secret with symbol, even if dance is not up?
I’m a little confused if we are trying to pair symbol with dance and secret every time or just hit them separately and buff each with symbol outside of flag/SB
hexed dagger
sub is good just be very aware of the timings
yeah I figure just literally holding for add sets
lilac pendant
is there a way to have a macro for shadowdance+symbols and backstab?
strange shore
Yes just slash cast
lilac pendant
cast also symbols with backstab
molten citrus
is there a way to have a macro for shadowdance+symbols and backstab?
You can but it’s generally not recommended to macro dance and symbols
upper locust
Are log reviews performed here?
lilac pendant
Im still learning so atm i could use less button bloat
molten citrus
Are log reviews performed here?
Type “!log” and link the log
strange shore
Almost all things should be pressed separate.
Secret and cold blooded can be on macro, but to optimize you should have a separate cold blood and secret anyway
upper locust
Type “!log” and link the log
Thank you mate
cunning notch
how do u guys usually use Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet ? just on 1st cd pop or do u stack it up ?
strange shore
There are very specific situations where you can use macro effectively, but if you are going for max output on sub, many of those macros will have to have separate non macro buttons (more instead of less bloat)
sudden breach
which enchant should we be using? depths or radiant
hoary lotus
How come sometimes I do like 2x the amount of damage when it's the same rotation
In opener**
mortal geyser
I have these two macros:
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Symbols of Death
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Shadowstrike
#showtooltip Symbols of Death
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Symbols of Death
/cast Shadowstrike
Does anyone know how I can edit them to not send symbols twice if I spam it?
hazy breach
how do u guys usually use Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet ? just on 1st cd pop or do u...
As long as you dont have it put your house of cards/transmitter on cd for your cooldowns you can use it whenever
!sod
wicked joltBOT
Macro to prevent accidental uses of extra charges: #showtooltip Symbols of Death /castsequence reset=2 Symbols of Death,null /cqs
grave delta
Is there any funny business with playing finality over rotten like finality rupture before cds or something
hazy breach
I have these two macros:
```
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Dance
/cas...
But also i wouldnt recommend macroing them like that, unless you are willing to lose damage just to have the rotation be easier
mortal geyser
But also i wouldnt recommend macroing them like that, unless you are willing to ...
what is the recommendation?
lilac pendant
How many damage are we speaking of?
hazy breach
No macros
Because the ideal use is to not use them at the same time at certain points of time
mortal geyser
hmm
lucid jackal
sprocket prog looking good
alpine wraith
guy already escaped stix prison
native zodiac
how far r u into into it guy?
silent ruin
I have these two macros:
```
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Dance
/cas...
This can fail right if pressed on gcd window
lucid jackal
how far r u into into it guy?
like 40 pulls or smthing
native zodiac
like 40 pulls or smthing
ah we roughly the same then
dusky ingot
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
edgy zenith
wait, what are the best cyrce's gems?
fickle mason
Any good luquid reminders or saving cds for adds / cloak timings for first 3 bosses? Starting prog tn
mint hollow
hi guys! just to be sure cause i'm hella dumb, if I have around 30sec left on flagellation+shadow blades, do I wait for them to come back to do a double shadow dance+symbols+secret tech, or do I use them anyway?
like i've one charge of shadow dance, one charge of symbols and one charge of secret technique
fickle mason
or ust quick tips vs heroic
edgy zenith
Hold them until flag. Every flag window you want 2 dances/symbols/sectechs
rotund depot
based on the standard rotation is it start pooling around 30-35sec on flag/sb cooldown
mint hollow
thanks! cause i pump real hard at opener, then I fall down quite a bit during those off cooldown timings
rotund depot
Im in the same boat, im pumping early, and it falls off pretty quickly throughout the fight
rotund depot
if flag/sb does come off CD and ive messed up pooling SD/Symbols do i send it with 1 SD charge or keep accumulating 2nd SD
worn ibex
!bug
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet | Github Tracker
polar sentinel
Hey guys, I'm really appreciate if you let me know the detail of sub. opening.
How many times should I use shadow dance within flag. buff ?
Log says it's 2 or 3, but simc example uses 2 times.
I guess it should be 3, but someone(and simc) uses 2.
What is the difference?
lucid jackal
2 dance 2 symbols with every blades/flag
polar sentinel
We can use 3 dance 3symbol in the opening, why I should keep third dance?
lucid jackal
you use symbols with every sectec, when sectec is 10 or less seconds, and you dance if you can with that
hazy breach
The main thing you want is 2x sectech, 2x dances and 2x symbols every flag+blades
polar sentinel
You says if I can use 3rd sec.tech / 3rd dance / 3rd symbol together within flag, then use it. Correct?
hazy breach
And then as many as possible inbetween while making absolutely sure you can still get those 2 into blades+flag
polar sentinel
I got it. Perfect.
young mural
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
polar sentinel
I should avoid not being able to use 2 sec.tech / 2 dance / 2 symbol in every flag+blades.
modest delta
well i want the note up just not the big ahh text saying note
hazy breach
Lock it
hazy breach
Tfw not getting the coup before your second sectech
idle stream
hey guys, with how many adds we want to use black power ?
hazy breach
So it gets delayed one builder/spender
hazy breach
hey guys, with how many adds we want to use black power ?
7 or more, but you should also be storming once before it to apply find weakness
Once in dance that is
shrewd shadow
!wa
wicked joltBOT
lavish rose
i think im struggling a little bit with when im in proper range to cleave with ff up.. are there any instances, in raid for example, where adds are too spread and black powder gives you extra range, or are they more or less the same?
or shuriken storm for that matter
lucid jackal
I think there is literally 0 situation in raid you should press black powder
rotund depot
7 or more, but you should also be storming once before it to apply find weakness
is shuriken storm a spammer in AOE situation? or only once for the find weakness debuff then into normal CP builders / black powder
hazy breach
In dance once
twilit phoenix
I think there is literally 0 situation in raid you should press black powder
What if you’re like 10-20 secs away from flag, coup is procced, and rup is already rolling
hazy breach
Outside of dance always at 3+
rotund depot
I think there is literally 0 situation in raid you should press black powder
i pressed black powder on gallywix adds, incorrect?
and the junk boss
lucid jackal
What if you’re like 10-20 secs away from flag, coup is procced, and rup is alrea...
shut up
lucid jackal
i pressed black powder on gallywix adds, incorrect?
U should probs just evis the boss
Like yes, its more "Total damage" to spam BP when theres 10 adds for like 3 globals
But boss damage is important
hazy breach
I dont think theres 10 mobs
twilit phoenix
Glad solo is back you’re a bad dude guy
hazy breach
Theres like 5
lucid jackal
I dont think theres 10 mobs
Is there not like 10
hazy breach
Ok mb there was 8 of them, i thought there was 6
But ye probably more worth to eviscerate either way unless youre exclusively going for logs
undone mesa
Does assassination scales better than sub for higher keys? can someone help with this question?
strange chasm
Does assassination scales better than sub for higher keys? can someone help with...
ass if you want aoe
sub if you want st
i also think ass is still the best prio target spec
undone mesa
i also think ass is still the best prio target spec
ty all for ansewer it
maiden hamlet
!bs
wicked joltBOT
Backstab/Shadow Dance Macro:yaml #Showtooltip Shadow Dance /cast [bonusbar:1] Backstab; Shadow DanceThis will cast Shadow Dance on first key press and Backstab on second key press.
hazy breach
Im fairly sure assa is significantly ahead of any other spec and class when it comes to prio damage
Like last season the m+ build was simming like 1.2M on pure ST, but the prio damage in 8 targets constant cleave was 2.1M
vast kayak
is there any reason to not use the below as the bs macro?
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Backstab
topaz cipher
Im fairly sure assa is significantly ahead of any other spec and class when it c...
Yeah, I’m not an expert on DH but I don’t believe it’s 65%~ like SIN is
lucid jackal
is there any reason to not use the below as the bs macro?
/cast Shadow Dance
/ca...
Because there are situations you dont always do backstab dance
sometimes u do dance sod finisher backstab
tribal blade
i'm not even bothering with that new updated dance+stab macro tbh
just pressing both buttons independent of each other
i don't want to unlearn macro habits again
it's rough
lucid jackal
exactly
tribal blade
i was actually using the dance+symbols macro for a while
unlearning that was not fun
steady dune
The bubbling wax weapon buff, i know it says its about the same in terms of dps as the ironclaw, but was that for ST or AOE? It seems like it would be great for M+
young mural
!up
wicked joltBOT
true citrus
So even in M+ you send cds with 2x Symbols and 2x shadow dance ?
hazy breach
The bubbling wax weapon buff, i know it says its about the same in terms of dps ...
Kind of the opposite as it scales poorly with more targets
rustic pond
Hi, what's the biggest downside of having dance + sod macroed together ? For now i have the macro + sod on an other key (i've tried no macro, but the double press each time i'am not really a fan)
young mural
Kind of the opposite as it scales poorly with more targets
"Damage is increased for each enemy struck"
swift tinsel
!burst
wicked joltBOT
During your Flagellation and Shadow Blades you want your second Shadow Dance to be cast immediately after the first one ends. You do not
want to cast Symbols of Death at the same time as your second Shadow Dance, but rather 1 or 2 seconds later when Secret Technique has
10 seconds or less remaining. This is to make sure you supercharge the Secret Technique instead of an Eviscerate.
Because of this a Shadow Dance+Symbols of Death macro is not ideal.
swift tinsel
Hi, what's the biggest downside of having dance + sod macroed together ? For now...
If you macro symbols to dance you run the risk of supercharging non-Sectech finishers in your second dance
There’s too many If/Thens with symbols and dance usage to warrant macroing them
swift tinsel
Still wouldn’t recommend
Bc you’d need to have a naked symbols and naked dance bind on top of the macro
hazy breach
"Damage is _increased_ for each enemy struck"
Yes, hence the word "poorly" and not something like "not at all"
rustic pond
ok Thank you for the answer
swift tinsel
is shadowed unitframes less taxing than elvui or are they pretty similar
molten citrus
is shadowed unitframes less taxing than elvui or are they pretty similar
Afaik yes
I’ve heard elvui has done some work on its optimization and if you turn the updating interval of hp on your frames lower it isn’t as bad as it used to be
But a decent amount of people have been swapping to SUF lately idk
swift tinsel
I used SUF a realllllllly long time ago and its the only other ui replacement besides elvui I'm aware of, thinking of ditching the base blizz frames for something a bit nicer
hazy breach
I swapped to cell instead of elvui unit frames, got some extra fps on ovinax from that
swift tinsel
but that's good to know
Yeah I use cell atm too and its quite nice
I'll likely keep cell for party/raid frames, just want a bit of a diff look for me/target/focus frames
bleak night
swift tinsel
shadow portion of sectech
short radish
what is akaari's soul
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Akaari_Shadowgore
the soul of this guy
warm pond
!wa
wicked joltBOT
dire jolt
It's stupid I want to just craft a Siphoning Stiletto cause it's cheaper...
plain quest
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.
dense geode
is gloomblade better on locken if u can never get behind him
lucid jackal
nop
hazy breach
You still need to be behind to proc find weakness
The +20% dmg on the backstab itself is irrelevant
paper iron
Fw
dense geode
You still need to be behind to proc find weakness <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456...
yea
so is it still better to just have BS
oh you mean
with GB you still need to be behind
lucid jackal
Gloomblade is a talent u take when sub cares about shadow damage buffs, and generator damage
Gloomblade isn't a talent that you take "when you can't get behind the target"
hazy breach
with GB you still need to be behind
Yep
dense geode
i thought GB still was anywhere FW
paper iron
I dont even remember why we were playing gloomvblade like in s4 sl or s1 df. Probably just because of tuning and pressing it way too much
hazy breach
i thought GB still was anywhere FW
Youd think that because the tooltip explicitly says that
But no
paper iron
When sub did damage betwren cds
hazy breach
The tooltip lies
paper iron
Intresting. I havent look at ds sub since it just sourds pain
paper iron
I think I ll be mad at casting strike at 6cp to proc the thing max cp
Was not annoying as assa so maybe i m just biased to sub
lucid jackal
It for sure feels worse on sub than it does assa imo
paper iron
specially the aoe rotation and stuff when i talked about it with eleem. Sounded like u want to avoid to play arround it cuz it s a loss of damage to proc it and stuff or i dont remember what
pastel geyser
is it big dumb to macro symbols to dance?
paper iron
it s very suboptimal
lucid jackal
Yep
dire jolt
Trickster Sub getting baseline flurry just feels silly still.
lucid jackal
why
pastel geyser
i feel like i have like 3 too many buttons
paper iron
rogue getting blade flurry on all specs feel odd but hey, why not free damage
dire jolt
it just feels a bit lazy that all 3 rogue specs have that now vs working on aoe skills more, I dunno. 😦
hazy breach
Dw its not just rogue
paper iron
well i feel like every class in the game have blade flurry / cleave from st now
topaz cipher
Yeah, it sucks
paper iron
which is also one of the best damage profile in the game so why not. The day ret will proc divine storm arround him when they press final verdict will be the day ret will be top of the throne
dire jolt
I feel like most melees still have to do something to activate the aoe.
lucid jackal
Well sin still has to activate caustic
shrewd shadow
Yall using numbing poison in myth or the damage debuff?
lucid jackal
Trickster is "the outlaw/sub tree" and outlaw is a spec that has been defined for years, by blade flurry
I think it makes a lot of sense to have tbqh
It also just makes the spec more fun so win win imo
dire jolt
I still don't like the slight lock that coup de grace has, but otherwise I do enjoy how bursty sub is.
paper iron
as much as i hate hero talents for rogue overall, i feel like trickster sub is kinda cool to play. Lot of synergy, intresting priorities, lot of good stuff
shrewd shadow
Yall using numbing poison in myth or the damage debuff?
I can’t imagine casting speed on the mob really matters
lucid jackal
subs aoe is hard to make interesting without something like nimble flurry when our aoe is "Black powder, and storm"
lucid jackal
I can’t imagine casting speed on the mob really matters
numbing lowers white hits a lot for tanks
its pretty inconsiquential, u can run whatever u feel like tbh
Crippling has a lot of value too
topaz cipher
And is very impactful in some dungeons
dire jolt
they've lowered the animation lock on Coup De Grace from beta right?
topaz cipher
Like NW last season with out a ppall
paper iron
it was like 1.4s on beta i think at some point
topaz cipher
Numbing was mega value
lucid jackal
they've lowered the animation lock on Coup De Grace from beta right?
It doesnt have any animation lock anymore
hazy breach
It doesnt have any animationlock
lucid jackal
The only "animation lock" it has is that if you gain enough sectec stacks DURING sod, DURING the coup 3 hits, it'll refresh as it ends rather than on cast
WHich is just a bit quirky
dire jolt
oh thank the light, the animation lock made me hate trickster during beta, I'm glad its gone, I thought they just lowered it, but removed is great.
paper iron
no more forced charge, no more animation lock ayee. There is still the 1s gcd lock i think but that a thing that matters only for outlaw and i dont even know if it s still a thing currently
topaz cipher
Do you guys track shadow technique?
paper iron
And they anyway abuse it to do double coup so it s a win i guess for them 
lucid jackal
Do you guys track shadow technique?
yep
paper iron
Do you guys track shadow technique?
i do, and i think most of us do yea
shrewd shadow
And they anyway abuse it to do double coup so it s a win i guess for them <:dead...
Rouges abuse anything? Nah
paper iron
Rouges abuse anything? Nah
true, we aint abuser, we using minmaxing and intended gameplay to spam snd in between packs 
dire jolt
How have you guys felt doing +11 delves. I'm admittedly a bit scared to try them on rogue or mage lol.
topaz cipher
All delves are piss easy on mage no?
rocky ocean
Rogue
shrewd shadow
How have you guys felt doing +11 delves. I'm admittedly a bit scared to try them...
I’m at 653 ilevel and it’s a cake walk, but I was also doing it the day the added them this season
dire jolt
I just fear the mobs would just one shot me without a pet haha.
rocky ocean
don't worry they oneshot pets as well
hushed roost
theres a dude on youtube who is doing 11s while mosue clicking all his buttons on rogue so
shrewd shadow
Just don’t zone pull unless you have our 100% avoidance up plus pot
hushed roost
LMFAO
shrewd shadow
And you’ll be fine
dire jolt
I suppose rogues do get the better spawn rates on pacifist rig and brann eggs haha.
shrewd shadow
I mean you can also wait the 1.5 min for all CD to be up
shrewd shadow
I suppose rogues do get the better spawn rates on pacifist rig and brann eggs ha...
Spec for the 1 hour hate transfer and throw it on healer brann
dire jolt
Does he actually live that now?
shrewd shadow
Kill it before it kills him
dire jolt
haha, true
shrewd shadow
dire jolt
I've had a blast doing delves in general. I've done every character last two weeks except rogue, mage, and warrior, but I do wish I had the energy for rogue cause I do think it's fun at times.
west tide
guys im ready for the sub buffs tomorrow ❤️
rustic geyser
guys im ready for the sub buffs tomorrow ❤️
polar sentinel
What is BiS amulet for sub?
Flickering Glowtorc is recommended in Fuu's guide(wowhead), but craft thing looks better based on simc.
rustic geyser
There's about a thousand combinations of gear that are between 0-0.1% difference
don't panic too hard
both options are good
polar sentinel
Okay, not much difference between gears. Thx
west tide
What is BiS amulet for sub?
Flickering Glowtorc is recommended in Fuu's guide(...
get pvp conquest nexk
slightly worse than crafted neck and u can craft somethin big tomorrow or whenever
otherwise ya its flickering torch from the vault
guys i wish i could afford the boe mythic boots..
alpine wraith
the hc ones are not that pricey
spark tusk
tribal blade
are the sacred tolls in priory coded as aoe
tribal blade
they are on my weak aura that says "aoe incoming"
hell yeah
btw what WA is that
i tried using one of those before but it kinda didn't work the way i wanted to
short radish
leme try find
tribal blade
cool cool
short radish
btw i dont acutally know if it's an aoe
but the weak aura just calls it aoe
i assume youre asking to see if feint reduces its damage
i think its this one
stiff stirrup
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
tribal blade
btw i dont acutally know if it's an aoe
sick ty, btw we looked it up on notevenclose it is aoe
just changed the feint toggle on NEC and the dmg gets reduced
oh i actually have this WA set up already but i don't get the aoe warning i think
not sure
short radish
hmmm
maybe its another weak aura then
thought this was the only WA i use for dungoens
tribal blade
i did find this https://wago.io/KZKY9rxqo
says it's for healers but would work for rogue too
lilac pendant
Guys is DS behind in dps in m+ content? Mainly low keys atm. Not use fan of having same rotation aoe than single, i think haha
brazen meadow
When we are between big cds and we have about 20-30s left on them with sod and dance up, do we send or wait
prime ice
Does somebody know if Nimble Flurry cleaves off the player or the target?
lilac pendant
I think the player
I think its just AliExpress Blade flurry
But I'll let the pros answer
still quartz
When we are between big cds and we have about 20-30s left on them with sod and d...
many factors but I send them in most cases
prime ice
Great, thanks for the info. Any idea on the range of it?
tribal blade
it's a shorter range than bladeflurry
because they buffed the range of flurry but not nimble
iirc is it 7-8 yards? something like that, can't remember for sure
prime ice
Thank you!
lucid jackal
Guys is DS behind in dps in m+ content? Mainly low keys atm. Not use fan of hav...
deathstalker is bad
lilac pendant
deathstalker is bad
night verge
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
alpine wraith
deathstalker in m+ could do same dps as trickster but why would you
it is just annoying to play
random hare
Deathstalker has good funnel in aoe
Not worth it in most keys tho anyway
Not worth on any key*
young mural
oh wow
tyvm fuu
I cant even imagine how you would go about simming a variation of a rotation, crazy
thanks again
alpine wraith
you change the actionlist that regards to that part
in that case would be the stealth actions one
upper rock
what embelishments do we want this saeson for m+?
tribal blade
bro trying to do push keys without skyfury is not it
ornate lake
Guys I parsed 97 as assa on rikreverb and 83 as sub.
Is no one playing assa this tier on raid?
tribal blade
it's actually the opposite effect, it's easier to parse with a spec a lot of people are playing
it's generally hard to parse as sub because the sub playerbase has very sweaty people who've been playing it forever
daring agate
!wa
wicked joltBOT
young mural
you change the actionlist that regards to that part
the thing is, I had never heard of an actionlist until you mentioned it
wicked urchin
man im still struggling so much in keys
i mean i'm doing fine but i could be doing so much better
upper rock
hey what embelishments are good for m+ this season?
daring agate
man im still struggling so much in keys
what are you struggling with?
steel zinc
hey what embelishments are good for m+ this season?
Sim it and it's mostly irrelevant
Just go focus lense
Embellishments this season are like max 3-6 itemlevel
tribal blade
https://tenor.com/view/pov-you-giga-chad-chad-meme-gif-25615024
nah i'm TRASH
cloud rover
But you are an OTP
short radish
nah i'm TRASH
at least you didnt get declined for a m0
tribal blade
at least you didnt get declined for a m0
damn wtf
void ocean
!up
wicked joltBOT
cloud rover
at least you didnt get declined for a m0
Sorry only 650+ Meta classes
sudden breach
[> Sim <](<https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oweJje51yVapN8TgkFrha9>)
how many target count is this?
nvm i see it, +7
sudden breach
whats the logic between storm vs ss here? it does both, to proc danse?
builder rotation = BS > FInishier > Storm > Finisher > Shadowstike > Finisher
would it be a dps increase to get to 7 danse stacks?
- BS
- Secret Tech
- Storm (procs FW)
- BP
- Shadow Strike
- Evis (or Coup)
vale pine
it is about using storm in dance once
young mural
it is about using storm in dance once
ok
sudden breach
oh lmao i guess ive been doing it wrong on +7, been storming more than once
young mural
i mean i'm doing fine but i could be doing so much better
this is how i feel
sudden breach
does storm have a targetcap
young mural
feel like i've been doing pretty well on M+ but could be better
thats why im after these minute optimizations
ornate lake
How often do I use the sacred flame trinket ? Macro it with blades and lose 30s of CD?
Or just use it on CD, maybe with SecTech?
golden totem
keep it in bags 
keen dome
How often do I use the sacred flame trinket ? Macro it with blades and lose 30s ...
Pretty bad for Sub, I'd recommend the PvP trinket instead as it's a 1m agi cooldown.
cursive vapor
!macro
wicked joltBOT
Subtlety Macros:
It is not recommended to macro most cooldowns, including Cold Blood+Secret Techniques and Dance+Symbols.
The following macros are an exception:
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Thistle Tea```
```yaml
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/cast Ancestral Call
/use House of Cards```
When using diffrent macros, make sure to keep the cooldowns on a seperate key.I ran that place 25 times for the trinket
Does God want me to play assa again?
No, it must be satan
I will not be tricket
keen dome
Haha
ornate lake
Pretty bad for Sub, I'd recommend the PvP trinket instead as it's a 1m agi coold...
PvP
keen dome
It's very easy!
700 conquest. mostly done via pve or the daily rewards in dungeons
It is by far the best trinket for Sub outside of transmitter / HoC
And it is extremely and easily accessed
Goes to 658
full pollen
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/use Tempered Potion
why is it that this macro sometimes use the potion but sometimes doesnt ? is it a bug? even if i press is 2 or 3 times.
my keybind for this macro is SHIFT+X, if that matters
ornate lake
Goes to 658
How to get the heroic one?
steep geyser
Whats the theory behind rotton over finality? Surely its better to buff eviscerates over critical strike on combo point generators or am I missing something? How does finality work? do you have to use the same finisher twice in a row or?
covert crane
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/use Tempered Po...
Happened to me as well. Then I changed potion name to potion ID, and it has been working 100%
steel zinc
Whats the theory behind rotton over finality? Surely its better to buff eviscera...
Go strike in dance and evis outside dance. Evis outside dance doesn't do dmg
full pollen
Happened to me as well. Then I changed potion name to potion ID, and it has been...
oh damn. thanks for the tip! ill try this
void ocean
still no tunning, huh
ornate lake
Tuning is fine. Just reroll monk
Bruh got outdpsed by a 640 mage and monk on vexie
Total humiliation
sly shore
Sorry only 650+ Meta classes
660+ now
sly shore
#showtooltip Shadow Blades
/cast Shadow Blades
/cast Blood Fury
/use Tempered Po...
probably cos you have multiple tempered potions in your bag and it can't decide which one
either that or it's not always called tempered potion
just use this
/use item:212264
/use item:212265
/use item:191383
/use item:191913
/use item:191382```actually no. only have rank 2 potions. but ill try the idea with ID. if that works im happy.
full pollen
```/use item:212971
/use item:212264
/use item:212265
/use item:191383
/use item...
ahh perfect! thank you
sly shore
that'll use them in order of "importance"
remote shuttle
Guys is it safe to macro bs with /startattack? To not lose uptime tabbing... Idk if it forces the attack sequence to reset or if it just keeps attacking in case you are already doing it (asking for shadowcraft mechanic)
stark belfry
there's no need to macro that, you're already gonna auto target whatever is in front of you if you have no target
remote shuttle
Need to know if it reset your attack sequence, due to how shadowcraft works
remote shuttle
there's no need to macro that, you're already gonna auto target whatever is in f...
Nope, tabbing on a different target being no energy doesn't always start autoattacking
remote shuttle
So need to know if is it safe to macro the /startattack on bs and maybe ss... Only case i'm not doing this is if it mess/slows your SC cps generation flow
warm marlin
If you tab or press backstab after a target dies, even with no energy, it should start attacking
placid elk
i tested this crap yesterday, backstab with no energy doesnt trigger start attack
i know it should this aint vanilla
but i had to make a macro
remote shuttle
If you tab or press backstab after a target dies, even with no energy, it should...
Strange thing, find out sometimes swapping target on a 0 energy situation, and casting a bs (trying to cast, cuz cant cast with 0 energy) doesn't start autoattacking
remote shuttle
i tested this crap yesterday, backstab with no energy doesnt trigger start attac...
Same here
placid elk
just go
#showtooltip Backstab
/startattack
/cast Backstab
remote shuttle
Should not be bothering u guys asking, if wasn't
keen dome
How to get the heroic one?
There isn't one. 658 is all you get. However, the next best thing is hoc
remote shuttle
just go
#showtooltip Backstab
/startattack
/cast Backstab
So if u are already attacking it doesn't do any kind of reset on the attack animation and u keep on w/o interrupting the shadowcraft generation, am i right?
placid elk
it doesnt reset, just when you swap a target and you don't have energy to backstab, even if you press it your char will just look at the target and dont attack
remote shuttle
Nice will fix it as i come back home
sly shore
I farmed it
on Friday evening
didn't take too long banging my head against a wall in 2's
keen dome
Ye. There's a lot of ways to get it that aren't hard or painful.
It's such a good option imo, and so easy to get.
sly shore
I hit 6M dps in ST burst yesterday
keen dome
I wonder if it'll be as good in S3 to replace n/h HoC..
sly shore
big pog moment
lilac stag
I wonder if it'll be as good in S3 to replace n/h HoC..
You’ll have mythic HoC
simple inlet
is it worth tracking flawless form in aoe?
lilac stag
finally got some loot in keys. Timed a 10 priory which seemed like an actual accomplishment.
keen dome
finally got some loot in keys. Timed a 10 priory which seemed like an actual acc...
Absolutely, what a cursed dungeon
the 9 I did felt harder than all the other 10's I've done lmao
plush roost
is it worth tracking flawless form in aoe?
Yes because it is what enables nimble flurry
simple inlet
any reason why luxthos doesn\t have it in the wa then?
simple inlet
so if flawless form isn\t active we use black powder as finisher?
placid elk
luxthos has it in the wa pack but its not loaded, you need to load it manually
hidden warren
Flawless form is in his WA pack, you just have to turn it on under the "Load" tab
lilac stag
is that in the readme notes? Please tell me it is.
sly shore
that's a strange one to not have loaded lol
considering it dictates rotational choices
placid elk
man doesnt even play wow
sly shore
guess he just spends his time bloating his auras with custom code, needless triggers and conditions
lilac stag
he can retire with new blizzard wa
keen dome
They're going to be good for a lot of players, imo. Like, the people not using WA's, etc.
But WA's are just plain better
lilac stag
they’ll be fine for your avg WA pack downloader
keen dome
Because I can make my combo points a load of animated rats
sly shore
you can do more with WA without a single line of custom code than with what blizzard is providing
and it's not even close
especially with template auras
keen dome
Yeah, I agree. I don't have any custom code in my personal WA's and they're so good for my use case
But I do think for the people who don't use WA's (the majority of the playerbase, if we're being real) it'll be a good improvement
keen dome
perfect in every way
lilac stag
perfect in every way
Your lack of borders trigger me
keen dome
:D
lilac stag
keen dome
Oh, it's worse
I tie it to the personal resource display so it's dynamic in moving / scaling
lilac stag
I don’t mind that
keen dome
It's very comfy
lilac stag
The border(less) kills me
sly shore
I'm something of a coder myself
keen dome
🫡
placid elk
i just make my own, and steal combo points from zac and call it a day
sly shore
I tie it to the personal resource display so it's dynamic in moving / scaling
can't you make prd static
lilac stag
Outlaw WA 
keen dome
can't you make prd static
Yeah
But I like it's autofade function, and how it vanishes out of combat.
keen dome
And that it has static positioning under the character but it actually scales up / down as I zoom in and out.
sly shore
lilac stag
Getting ready for the outlaw dominance in raid?
sly shore
It's easy enough to keep rogue auras up-to-date
lilac stag
Yeah.
sly shore
there's no changes to make usually 
lilac stag
I don’t code but I can fumble around enough to edit LEs
keen dome
I need to finish my defensive changes to be more visually useful, but the only major change I've made was adding a tier set tracker
Very comfy
sly shore
I need to update the the images though cos they outdated
lilac stag
or be smart enough to ask for help
lilac stag
I need to finish my defensive changes to be more visually useful, but the only m...
I hide my defensives until on CD.
keen dome
I could probably get rid of the S&D aura or change it to just a "is it up? good" instead of duration.
But what if they change it again??
placid elk
they wont change it again
lilac stag
delete it is next step
placid elk
at this point they can make it passive
keen dome
But what if, in six years, they go back to how it was in DF
I'd just be making more work for myself in the future if I deleted it now.
sly shore
I deleted it
lilac stag
sub will be deleted by then
sly shore
it's easy to just duplicate an aura and add it back anyway
placid elk
then you just press create aura - new - in trigger name type slice and dice. boom you got it
sly shore
I use spell ID's only
sly shore
you need
lilac stag
Just move tier there
placid elk
make a rogue weakaura, change all icons of spells to fire mage spells and procs, start stream, confuse people
lilac stag
real talk, where the class balancing notes blizz?
sly shore
they did some last night
keen dome
make a rogue weakaura, change all icons of spells to fire mage spells and procs,...
I should replace rupture with nightblade
lilac stag
they did some last night
Bug fixes no? Didn’t see any tuning.
keen dome
I think it'll come tonight / tomorrow
sly shore
keen dome
I'm expecting Mug'zee heroic nerfs 'cos hooooboy is that a fight
sly shore
it is?
lilac stag
for most, yes
keen dome
For most people, I think it is. Espescially in a pug
void ocean
i mean, its sheit up untill the last 15% when hell breaks loose
haughty mural
- for pugs it is
placid elk
i hate pugs, man i got to find a guild.
i got 0 loot from raid in 2 weeks
haughty mural
fixed it
keen dome
damn
lilac stag
did you try to to pug vexie?
sly shore
should see me on stix
keen dome
I really should
sly shore
last 30 mins of raid
I was a rat
brain was so switched off
dog shit ass piss wank fight
keen dome
Like, the group I killed Mug'zee on had GOOD damage and we were 10 energy from the hard wipe.
with an organized group who actually does damage and listens I think he's fine.
But the majority of the playerbase ain't that. I guess it'll be easier in 2 - 4 weeks with damage buff + gear but, liek
Casual heroic guilds are gonna be hard stuck
Which is why I will be amazed if they don't nerf him at some point.
lilac stag
I'm not even good anymore
steel zinc
Like, the group I killed Mug'zee on had GOOD damage and we were 10 energy from t...
Anybody with half set of Skills these days doesn't pug raid anymore and has an alt raid from a higher ce guild for friends and families. Even more most people just boost it.
lilac stag
keen dome
Anybody with half set of Skills these days doesn't pug raid anymore and has an a...
Yeah but I'm a weirdo.
And my favourite challenge in WoW is AotC via pugs.
native zodiac
dog shit ass piss wank fight
When you plan all your cds, then get a ball when you are ready to flag and blades 
haughty mural
Anybody with half set of Skills these days doesn't pug raid anymore and has an a...
but sometimes it has absolutely zero to do with skill
why someone decides to pug or not
void ocean
And my favourite challenge in WoW is AotC via pugs.
u get invited to pugs without the curve? 0.O
keen dome
Yeah
sly shore
When you plan all your cds, then get a ball when you are ready to flag and blade...
yeah I moved my cd's by 5s just in case I got ball
keen dome
I have okay logs and 657 ilevel haha
sly shore
cos using them early was gonna be mega troll
lilac stag
pumping that ilvl
steel zinc
but sometimes it has absolutely zero to do with skill
Skill is to show up to a friends and family raid 2 times per month get aotc
sly shore
it's fine getting the odd set of balls
but if you get even sets, which are where your cd's are
you're fucked
native zodiac
yeah I moved my cd's by 5s just in case I got ball
Ye same sending after ball feels giga bad aswell though bc then it moves all your next timers aswell
Its just cursed
keen dome
I also lead normal -> heroic pugs every week on reset. It's my favourite part of the reset.
haughty mural
alright
keen dome
I personally consider pugging a really good sign of WoW's health, and also the average difficulty of a raid on heroic
sly shore
Sub rogue is unironically really good damage on that fight
boss and add
it's just atrophic sucks
lilac stag
Skill is to show up to a friends and family raid 2 times per month get aotc
Basically raid with a CE guild for a tier. Retire due to work and show up for heroic
sly shore
and it's not a boomkin or spriest
keen dome
Basically raid with a CE guild for a tier. Retire due to work and show up for he...
That sounds like a good plan tbh
void ocean
how do u get an invite from the ce guild? 😄
lilac stag
!sod
wicked joltBOT
Macro to prevent accidental uses of extra charges: #showtooltip Symbols of Death /castsequence reset=2 Symbols of Death,null /cqs
lilac stag
how do u get an invite from the ce guild? 😄
Post stealthi logs as your own.
blissful gale
i am sobbing, since the last nerf
keen dome
If I get down Gally today I'm gonna try to do VexieM I think
keen dome
She looks extremely puggable
lilac stag
If I get down Gally today I'm gonna try to do VexieM I think
I would reverse that.
keen dome
out of interest - does she get extra armour or is it still 6?
jade urchin
out of interest - does she get extra armour or is it still 6?
still 6
steel rune
do u run instant+numb in m+?
jade urchin
do u run instant+numb in m+?
atrophic for higher keys, numbing for lower keys
steel rune
thanks 🙂
void ocean
i use crippling in Motherlode
haughty mural
i dont want to bang my head against a wall in 2s
glass jasper
Sitting on work laptop and trying to open teams contact list/chats, spamming J to do it. Took me a while to understand why i could not open my friendlist. Too much wow?
lilac stag
i dont want to bang my head against a wall in 2s <:pepehands:757566347558387803>
Join a crate farm raid
clever delta
My guild discuss if i should play outlaw or elussivness for more dr on stix 
Send help
glass jasper
My guild discuss if i should play outlaw or elussivness for more dr on stix <:ku...
Politely say no
haughty mural
Join a crate farm raid
how long does that take
hexed sluice
Easy fix go outlaw, killing spree into a puddle and just gaslight them into it being unplayable
haughty mural
roughly ?
haughty mural
lilac stag
Look for my links
There’s an alert WA
I posted it a couple times the beginning of the week
haughty mural
should have done it before... Won't make it till raid tomorrow
i'll look for it
ty (:
glass jasper
What do you want conq for? Trinket?
glass jasper
Ah
haughty mural
yea and i can't anymore
glass jasper
Lucky me who got HoC first vault! No need for annoying pvp content then
haughty mural
this weeks hc reclear lockenstock tilted me out of transmitter
(and ToP orbs disappearing in stairs)
lilac stag
There’s a lot more visuals to lose it in this tier.
haughty mural
yuhh
lilac stag
they made the mechanics easier to see and the visual fx threw up all over the place.
not good for chasing a trinket
haughty mural
i just want to press my fking trinket now and thats it
glass jasper
Haha can the transmitter go down the grinders on locketspronger longstockings?
haughty mural
no more bs
glass jasper
Such a grief mechanic
glass jasper
Tbh they should just nerf transmitter to the ground
And free everyone from transmitter-prison
lilac stag
it’s only sub rogue in that prison
haughty mural
ye
glass jasper
Yea but still
lilac stag
it worse for everyone else
so it’s fine
our sims literally have it picking it up perfectly with every Sectech
haughty mural
my warrior friend just told me yesterday
"just opt not to use it anymore like we do"
glass jasper
my warrior friend just told me yesterday
"just opt not to use it anymore like w...
I like that, lets unionise against transmitter
lilac stag
if you pick it with flag it’s like a 24k dps loss
glass jasper
So you pretty much got to be kush for it to even be good?
haughty mural
picking it with flag is really really early
lilac stag
and the badge is minimal time invested.
lilac stag
picking it with flag is really really early
Or you know grabbing it on pull like plenty of people did
void ocean
and the badge is minimal time invested.
but its the emotional trauma
haughty mural
Or you know grabbing it on pull like plenty of people did
damn
lilac stag
swapping to badge was like kicking a habit
vale pine
transmitter is good
haughty mural
thats not a question
vale pine
but it can lose value if you don't play it well
hollow spear
you already lose value if you don't play it pixel perfect tbh
vale pine
one of the worse designed we had in a while
hollow spear
there should be an option in raidbots
"handless moron"
for people like me
includes a 10% chance to lose orb in a big pull
or dying while greeding for the platform
void ocean
can we see Bandits dmg buff in the logs?
void ocean
oh it is, High Roller, right?
lucid lily
May we all get a house of cards in our boxes today(or tomorrow)
vernal sorrel
My guild discuss if i should play outlaw or elussivness for more dr on stix <:ku...
yes hello there i am a raider in his guild
point was
he said he was dying to the debuff you get
rain kernel
in shadow dance and symbols...if i shadowstrike...and only get 5 cp..do i use another shadowstrike or just eviscerate?
vernal sorrel
and we pointed out he could take elusiveness if he felt he was dying to it
somehow he got the idea to run and play outlaw
for elusiveness
hollow spear
in shadow dance and symbols...if i shadowstrike...and only get 5 cp..do i use an...
shadowstrike
vernal sorrel
which is funny to me
rough jewel
Hi, i noticed M+ talent using shiv but i dont see when to use it in rotation.
vernal sorrel
Hi, i noticed M+ talent using shiv but i dont see when to use it in rotation.
as an enrage removal
rough jewel
ah ty
vernal sorrel
not rotational spell