subtlety

[hazy breach]

Per cast, not total

[alpine wraith]

does not help that singular focus is ass

[hazy breach]

Ye thats without singular counted too

[sacred path]

I knew I saw list of wa here somewhere, tyvm

[pliant topaz]

what a fascinating hero talent! im so glad so much thought, care and passion was put into it. I hope they buff the auto attack node more

unfortunately I hard doubt the DN bug will ever gets fixed (if its even considered a bug, as it could just be a fuck it, its a feature now )

but if it did, it probably would be less aids than perma target swapping

and you could do a similar thing

[alpine wraith]

maybe they buff mark damage more

[worn ivy]

Yo i just realize in aoe yea if u use 2nd rotten charge on Storm and targets does not have FW you Sec tech than storm before the sech tech lands storm gives them FW so it counts

[alpine wraith]

a 2x or 3x

[worn ivy]

or am i trippin ?

[alpine wraith]

so it is worth to apply it

sec tech does not care about fw

most of the dmg is shadow

[lilac stag]

Yes that’s how it works

[twilit phoenix]

what's the % loss if you don't Storm before SecTech?

I swear I forget to do that shit sometimes

[small juniper]

surely not

im surprised u get invited to keys forgetting stuff like that

[pliant topaz]

im surprised your accounts not perma banned tbh

if my sub rogue didnt apply FW before sectech i thnk in some states thats a criminal offense

[hazy breach]

Youre not supposed to storm before sectech

But like 15-20% of sectechs damage is physical, so if you had fw up before you secteched it would do like 1.5-2% more damage

[pliant topaz]

^ probably less than that, since u strike -> sectech, primary target takes 100% else takes 50%, primary already has FW

its just a meme

[hazy breach]

Oh ye right, its only FW on the other targets ye

So its less than that

Thats not overall damage btw, thats damage of that specific sectech

[tidal python]

I haven't played since last year and this was literally the first thing I saw after opening this channel

Literally just

[keen dome]

That's a cool discovery but also I hate it

DS is just a curse.

[tidal python]

How do we get them to buff trickster

[swift tinsel]

kekw

they were mad we were playing it more than DS

buffed bp and plague damage

and we still try to avoid DS

[keen dome]

Looking at the rogue statistics and turning the damage knob until we play it

[swift tinsel]

soon we only finish with bp

and auto attack

ourselves silly

inb4 reverting ShT so we get cp from autos

[small juniper]

i knew it

thats why ive been blasting on broodtwister

[hollow spear]

They're getting rogue all wrong

They're pushing away the last 50 players that still play Sub 😅

[kind bluff]

Wait we don't want to storm before sectec?

[hazy breach]

We dont need to

[tidal python]

Gotta be a pirate brother

Roll those dice

[void hound]

aint no way 💀

so you want to switch targets in dance or what

[swift tinsel]

yep, spread the love

keep marks from getting to DN

[viral girder]

bro no shot

What the fuck

is my luck

On this rogue

[twilit phoenix]

unreal, ggs

[viral girder]

last weeks timewalking gave me void contract

So from time walking alone the past 2 weeks of having this toon, its been huge upgrades

[lilac stag]

Hopefully not wasting all of your loot luck at the end of a season.

Save some for s2

[viral girder]

Hopefully not lmao

Still good to have though because im starting the rogue now for the raiding. even pre season 2

Still a lot of play before season 2

So if I craft my 2 embels, i can recraft them to season 2 item levels right

[keen dome]

Yeah, pretty much. The spark in the item sets their season.

You'll be able to swap the S1 spark for an S2 spark when you get one which'll put their ilevel to the base for the season. And then upgrade it with S2 crests, etc. No need to make it from scratch each season.

[viral girder]

So just go ahead and get my dagger and wrists with elemental focus then

and i'll be good to go

For thse 2 slots the entire expansion

Unless an embell passes up EFL

[keen dome]

Basically. You might end up moving them around due to loot RNG, though. But you can carry them forward each season regardless.

[viral girder]

doing just basic 606 on the wrists and 619 from ansurek for my dagger. I'll have to work up to getting those recrafted

But thats fine

[silent ruin]

does nimble flurry work with gloomblade ? or just backstab as mentioned in tooltip

[pliant topaz]

should work but who knows, specs mostly bugs at this point. test it out for yourself

[spark tusk]

Fuck wrong image

There we go

[pliant topaz]

reminds me of the go to office, do nothing, go home playlist

good times

[pliant topaz]

also im stealing this. Yoinked

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[old venture]

@red cloud

[red cloud]

You called?

I am indeed

Walking Through Ohio

[old venture]

OHIO MAN?

[red cloud]

OHIO MAN

[spark tusk]

Damn wasn't even the image I meant to post

nice

my accident is more popular than my intention

[red cloud]

“This Place Sucks” truly is the perfect descriptor

[alpine void]

i just came back to sub - is invigorating shadowdust just gone now?

[hazy breach]

yes

[alpine void]

kinda sick ngl

[viral girder]

So.. brought my rogue to MY mythic raid group and doing heroics for others. I ran into a problem.

Well. Not a problem. But makes me feel less big.

Like I know im doing damn good at around 1m DPS at 614 on a BURST class.
But the rest of the people above me are just as good if not better at DPS and are 10-15 item levels higher.

So I KNOW im doing good but that "#12" hits my ego like im not

[steady dune]

in m+, should I be spreading rupture during trash pulls?

[hazy breach]

If youre not in dance and theyll live for a while ye

A while is like 10s or so, depends a bit but somewhere around there

[bleak wind]

is that still true with the 10 buffs to black powder

or at least I assume at some target count you won't

[hazy breach]

Well it doesnt really scale that much after 8 targets anyway

But ye possible its not worth at huge target counts

[bleak wind]

that high?

wound't it do more at like 4-5 targets already

with FW at least

[hazy breach]

Well ruptures outside dance remain active until theyre inside dance, so youre kinda getting more "in dance finishers" by using ruptures

But obv without stuff like replicating or dark brew rupture is worse

Also corrupt the blood got buffed too

[bleak wind]

ye I guess, just seems so weak

[hazy breach]

Idk nothing seems sus about it in sims

And skipping the rupture is like -11% at 10 targets permanent cleave. But thats with DB, replicating, corrupt the blood and nothing dying

[edgy zenith]

2 rupture casts outside of flag, flag > rupture > go is best imo

feels the best in my keys on big pulls

6 ruptures up in CDs is p big dam

[hazy breach]

Not worth if the pack is gonna die before you get all of your burst of

But ye if it lives go ahead

[edgy zenith]

i don't press rupture at all if it's a weekly 10

just press BP and feel something

also, leveling a rat rogue alt. got a myth track Dawnbreaker trinket thing

the crystal

super good wtf

[drowsy moon]

is there a weak aura I can make so that it tells me do not dance

[edgy zenith]

wish I had on main

[drowsy moon]

or symbols so that I have double on my next shadow blades

[edgy zenith]

think someone was talking about having one yesterday

dunno if it's public

[drowsy moon]

like I am really trying to practice it but

its realy realy hard

I am not understanding my fundementals

[edgy zenith]

definitely takes time to fully get

keep at it

WA makes it less fun

but I think someone has one, yeah

[drowsy moon]

yeah

I usually dont like stuff like that yeah

but this is something I wanna see when my wa tells me

and wanna get used to that timing so I can remove it

when ı am suppose to be not sending dance and symbols

when flagis coming up in 20 yeah

[edgy zenith]

that's a good general rule yeah

[viral girder]

And theres my other bis trinket

[drowsy moon]

for dance is it 40

[viral girder]

Time to learn the mini game timing

[hazy breach]

More like 30 if you want a rule of thumb

You just want to make sure you'll be able to cast two symbols, two sectechs and two dances in your flag+blades window

Which for dance means having 1 charge and atleast ~40s cd left on your second charge

[drowsy moon]

sitting 1 charge

if I see flag on 40 yeah

for symbols

is it 30

[hazy breach]

What

[viral girder]

So when and how the fuck

Do i use this trinket

[edgy zenith]

macro it to flag

[viral girder]

I know its BIS. I know 13k Agi is fucking stupid

[edgy zenith]

complete right before first sectech

[viral girder]

But I dont know the mini game part

[hazy breach]

!transmitter

[wicked jolt]

The orb and circle from Treacherous Transmitter always spawn in the same spot. Relative to how your character is facing it spawns northeast/1:30 o'clock/frontright, this means you can know where it will spawn and react accordingly.
https://i.imgur.com/cTPN4Tz.png

[viral girder]

Like the orb and platform is easy. I assume if I see neither its a very obvious "jump 3 times".

[edgy zenith]

symbols you can greed a little more. so for instance, you can send flag with 1 charge and like 15s left on next charge

because it gets extended

[viral girder]

So its just trying to get the timing down for the burst

[edgy zenith]

get a weak aura

[hazy breach]

Well ye but you want to supercharge your second sectech

So its more like 10s anyway

[edgy zenith]

yeah, you just delay your second dance like 2 globals

[hazy breach]

Na

Dance immediately

Otherwise you lose out on transmitter and blades

[edgy zenith]

nah, you can delay

definitely

[drowsy moon]

[hazy breach]

Ofc you can

But why would you

[edgy zenith]

so your second sectech falls in a dance?

[hazy breach]

It does anyway

[edgy zenith]

it doesn't if you send with 15s left on CD

like I was saying

[hazy breach]

Most likely more worth to just delay flag for 2 globals

Unlikely to lose you a cast

[edgy zenith]

true

[hazy breach]

But thats like a giga niche scenario that rarely ever happens

[edgy zenith]

yeah, definitely

[drowsy moon]

I saw a log revivew

that someone noted it

the save timers

sorry if I am being stupid

[hazy breach]

Theres no strict timers

[drowsy moon]

the charges

kinda make it confusing for me

I think

[edgy zenith]

yeah, it's hard to put a static number to it

[hazy breach]

When you flag

Make sure you have 1 charge of dance and your second charge has 40s or less left

[edgy zenith]

I would suggest spending less dances than you otherwise can while you're learning

to make sure you have everything you need for flag

[hazy breach]

If you dont by the time flag came up, you used one too many before

[drowsy moon]

okay this makes sense

[edgy zenith]

then if you find yourself like "wtf I'm sitting a 2 charges of dance for like 15s before flag comes up" you just learned you can send an extra

[drowsy moon]

what about smybols

[hazy breach]

Its better to sit on 2 charges for a small bit than to have not enough for the burst

[drowsy moon]

[hazy breach]

Well

Thats just timer based

[edgy zenith]

it's very rare you will ever cap symbols

[hazy breach]

So atleast 1 charge and less than 10 seconds on the other when you flag

[drowsy moon]

we basically do that when flag is up in 20 or 30

[hazy breach]

Generally yes

[drowsy moon]

[edgy zenith]

if you're having trouble thinking of "how many seconds left on this ability"

you can think of using it like this

[drowsy moon]

👀

OMG

U ARE MY HERO

[edgy zenith]

won't help in keys

[drowsy moon]

nana

I will nail that down later

like

[edgy zenith]

but this a good thing for raid for the most part

[drowsy moon]

I should get the hang of this this is like my basics no?

since I do bazilion like super ultra cool person on my blades

I should always have everythinish there

so I would not symbols again if I dont have the 3rd secretch

is that correct

if I cant line up with super charger

for my 3rd time

[edgy zenith]

correct

you are only sending sectech with symbols up

as one of your first two finishers

[drowsy moon]

but

so it means

I would only send symbols if I can line it up with first or second super charger

right it also means this

[edgy zenith]

yep

[drowsy moon]

okay okay

[edgy zenith]

10s left on sectech, you can send a symbols

[drowsy moon]

oh so wait I usualy

back to back send it

that is also wrong

I always pandemic my symbols during my blades

even second one

[edgy zenith]

don't think about pandemic with symbols

think about supercharger

[drowsy moon]

omg If I learn this I will be so cool thanks guys

[edgy zenith]

sub players are not cool

[drowsy moon]

wdym its super cool

sub talents have super cool names

I even have my assasination death mark weak aura on my secretch

I have a sound play when I use it omae wa mo shindeiru

[rocky ocean]

Cool and subtle are incompatible
Gotta sacrifice something

Yesterday an ice cream knight spec in a 10 typed that I was no good look because sub

[void hound]

when playing deathstalker you can get fucked pretty hard by bad rng when you back to back dance
i started doing one or two globals between dances so the second sec tec wouldnt fall out of dance

[gaunt maple]

Deathstalker worth for m+?

[round latch]

its a bit less overall than trickster but viable

trickster wins on low target cleave coz NF iirc

deathstalker should pump more ST

[gaunt maple]

Ahhh ok thank you , any big difference in playstyle?

[round latch]

should read the guide,deathstalker pretty much rotates around mark

wowhead guide is very fine

[gaunt maple]

Ty will do

[lilac stag]

Yeah one is miserable to play and the other one is called trickster.

[void hound]

real

[dry plank]

We need more optimism bois

[keen dome]

Posion toggle is coming

[void hound]

im optimistic we will get another single line of changes within the next 3 weeks

but thats about it

[keen dome]

I think we'll get a few changes before it goes live, and I think we'll have the tier set fixed.

Like, maybe a tweak to something here, a buff there, BP is now above Eviserate, and then the tier set is fixed.

Maybe a fix to RS. That'd be a nice surprise.

Maybe something surreal and they make Gloomblade baseline.

[lilac stag]

I’ll have what he’s having

That’s some good shit right there

[keen dome]

It's a good day today

[dry plank]

May be they will fix and rework mages shamans druids paladins and hunters they are miserable. We are gucci 0 bugs and fantástic gameplay

[keen dome]

nah it's rogue times. it's the goblin patch. there's no class more goblin than rogue

[dry plank]

But but mages and shamans in need right now

Fire is not meta wtf?

First time in 6 years

[formal helm]

Dw they'll buff it

[fair anchor]

anyone know how much of an increase it is to use cold blood for 2nd sectec in flag ?

compared to just macro send it ?

not sure if I should play around it in keys since you just send CB in AoE

[void hound]

0.6% if you only ever use it for second sec tec in burst
1% if you use cold blood inbetween burst windows too

are the numbers IIRC

[fair anchor]

Cheers

Pretty significant

[steel zinc]

Tier set is fine let us be op

[keen dome]

It doesn't work yet, right?

[steel zinc]

does someone have a winning streak wa?

[hazy breach]

If youre not missing any globals its fine anyway. In that case the second clone hits like 0.4s or so before dance ends

[round latch]

doesnt look like it does ye

ive tried the pirate a bit its cringe

cant even understand how it functions

[dry plank]

Use wa and you’ll gucci

Roll the bones something

[round latch]

copium memes all over the place

tier set is cringe

[swift tinsel]

More dispatch damage, increased chance for 2-5 buff rtb

[tepid trellis]

i read that as "incrased chance for people to quit the class"

[swift tinsel]

Nah you right

also something about waffles

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/heisenberg-walter-white-breaking-bad-gif-12563603

[void hound]

do you know how many bugs i have listed? even if i told you you wouldnt believe it

[lilac stag]

Did you remember to list VE racial not working?

[foggy geode]

20 ilvls lower than the 2nd, I'm getting the hang of this sub rogue thing

[drowsy moon]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/jw0c951zNrnHCDRVH?invite=cr-MSxKY24sMjQ5OTEwNTE5LA does this seem alright

for holding symbols and dance

[drowsy moon]

should I have send another dance

[fallow nimbus]

coup animation is forever gone. on live you could trigger it with the charge but that's gone too

[swift tinsel]

you overused SoD and didn't have 2 for your 2nd flag

[tulip light]

hi guys just reading about sub again after a long time... i see we want to cast stech as first finisher during dance now. do we not stack danse macabre for it anymore or rather why is that?

[drowsy moon]

really

I thought I had it tho I use 1 with flag

and 1 more when its over

[swift tinsel]

also your cooldown sequences are a little off

[drowsy moon]

so wait I am suppose to have 2

after flag is 2 stack

u mean

[swift tinsel]

2x SoD, 2x Dance, 2x sectech in flag/blades

[jaunty umbra]

we use it first because of the tier set now

[drowsy moon]

yes after this

I would use a 3rd dance symbols with my next sectech

is that correct

[swift tinsel]

I don't understand what you're saying

or asking, rather

[drowsy moon]

oh wait

yeh

nvm

[swift tinsel]

You'll typically get 3x SoD and sectech uses and 2x Dance uses between flag windows

but that's a little flexible depending on fight

[drowsy moon]

oh no btw

check my action bar

I forget to press my buttons

there

I have a symbols there

on flag

I just odnt press it

and dance

[drowsy moon]

thank u so much

[swift tinsel]

You should definitely fix your WA then to display charges

[drowsy moon]

wait huh yeah it shows it on cd

it doesnt show my charges

I use whispyrs I dont think I changed anything

[spark tusk]

whispyr assa one trick

[drowsy moon]

yes

I didnt wanna make the load condition only for assa

lemme get urs

u like cookie land uare cool

[spark tusk]

I also have a standalone for flag if you want

[drowsy moon]

I am a weak aura addict

[spark tusk]

https://wago.io/nyidlKqRB

[jaunty umbra]

you can just add a %2.s text for symbols irrc

[spark tusk]

Shows the predicted charges you'll have for dance/symbols by the time flag is ready

[drowsy moon]

OMG

HUGE

U ARE GOD

[spark tusk]

Yes, pretty straightforward if you just want to show charges

[drowsy moon]

so

[spark tusk]

not quite, it doesn't predict dance with CDR

[drowsy moon]

do I need anything else

can I pair ur thing

with somefin like this

[spark tusk]

So you still have to use your 🍪 🧠 a bit

[spark tusk]

If you want yeah

[drowsy moon]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety WA's:
Class packs:

Fuu's Luxthos's LE's

Kieron's Devlin's

Utilities:

• Shadowcraft refund sound trigger
• Deathstalker mark nameplate border

[spark tusk]

you'll need to fix the visuals a bit

[drowsy moon]

🤔

[spark tusk]

Just so it looks similar but functionally yes

[drowsy moon]

do u suggest anyone that will fit with ur wa

[drowsy moon]

from ere

[spark tusk]

I mean, just mine

[drowsy moon]

ohh

ye

[spark tusk]

I still am unsure on the best numbers but I try to make sure dance says ~1.5-1.6, and symbols saying 1.8 or so

[drowsy moon]

okay wait

sorry for being stuppid

[spark tusk]

And again CDR doesn't get accounted for

[drowsy moon]

shouldnt this make my weak aura gone

[spark tusk]

If you're sub yes, try unchecking and rechecking it

[drowsy moon]

oh did it

poggers

[spark tusk]

Sometimes you just have to bonk it to make it work

[drowsy moon]

[hexed bluff]

Looking forward to coming back in Season 2. I shall rely on this group as my beacon of guidance.

[drowsy moon]

Should I get this

and say update weak auras

[spark tusk]

Did you take my pack first, then try to install it?

[drowsy moon]

yes I took ur pack first

[spark tusk]

It's included in my pack

[drowsy moon]

OHH

I see it ye

[spark tusk]

you don't need to take the standalone if you have the pack

[alpine wraith]

we will blast in s2 strust

[spark tusk]

The standalone was just for those who don't want the full pack to easily get it

[alpine wraith]

by the power of not using our abilities

yea standalone things are good for things like my UI

[drowsy moon]

oh wait

so if I get ur pack

its auto in it

[alpine wraith]

so i can update 1 part instead of the while packate

[spark tusk]

yes

[drowsy moon]

PERFECT

WOO

[solar charm]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hazy breach]

Surely they buff trickster

[vale pine]

[hazy breach]

Or nerf deathstalker, thats fine too.

[dry plank]

Surely they do something to some classes

[lilac stag]

They will to 12 of the 13 classes.

[alpine wraith]

tbh deathstalker is a cinema

i love to explain people

no you cant use your things

because cdr is not enough

[void hound]

deathstalker is cinema cause you are stuck with a 30 apm rotation only to get fucked by rng during your big burst

[spark tusk]

Deathstalker sub doesn't exist it can't hurt you lalalalalalalala I don't see it

[lilac stag]

You’ll see it playing assa when dub is toast

[hazy breach]

I love when my spec actively tries to avoid getting the big payoff capstone node because having it is worse than not having it

Very well designed hero talent

[lilac stag]

Eleem are you stuck on rogue S2?

[hazy breach]

I will continue to play rogue yes

[young path]

god i hope this is the case

[lilac stag]

Sorry

[twilit phoenix]

What do you think of Lucky Coin not proccing for the entirety of certain pulls in raid

[hazy breach]

I mean that doesnt really happen, its just turbo rare

[alpine wraith]

lets riot and not tell anyone

i dont want to tell people well to aoe as DS you kinda dont want to proc your capstone

so when you are at 1 mark you just strike another target LULW

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

because they buffed this storm talent 4 times

[tepid trellis]

hand in hand to assa land, you and i bucko

[hazy breach]

All the departures to outlawland are cancelled

[tepid trellis]

Assa just feels better to play

spec makes sense

[twilit phoenix]

Assa is zzzzz

Sub goes so hard it’s unreal

[hazy breach]

Trickster sub nearly makes sense

[tepid trellis]

sub clunky af

[hazy breach]

Deathstalker absolutely doesnt

[tepid trellis]

someday

they will fix the spec

[void hound]

can you elaborate on this btw

[hazy breach]

If you strike another target

It resets the mark back to 3

and gives you clear the witnesses

Thats significantly better than using darkest night in aoe

[void hound]

so during dance you want to perma target swap and not use DN

[tepid trellis]

CtW does hit quite hard

[hazy breach]

Because you get clear the witnesses and you can BP instead of eviscerate

If you have DN you need to use it

But you dont want to proc it

[grand wyvern]

that is so cursed

[tepid trellis]

they will fix the spec someday

trust

[grand wyvern]

i am somehow afraid of the fix

[uneven scarab]

“Someday”

[void hound]

so its strike shuriken storm bp strike shuriken storm bp

[hazy breach]

"Ye we hear you"

• Hunt them down damage increased by 40%

[hazy breach]

no

[tepid trellis]

Coup now charges again

[hazy breach]

That would waste all the cp

[tepid trellis]

thats point 2

[hazy breach]

You still use your BPs

[keen dome]

Coup tried to kill me in a key today. It's trying to get the last few murders in before the charge is taken away.

[vale pine]

twice, it charges on use and then at a random point in time in the next 10 seconds.

[keen dome]

Hahaha

"We've just made it killing spree"

[vale pine]

integrating the sht delay bug into more core abilities of the spec ^^

[shut sonnet]

@tepid trellis

[alpine wraith]

to make it easier in aoe if you see you have 1 mark time to target another and use strike

be careful about shadowcraft thingies

so while you are in blades you want to maybe do it at 2 depending on sht

it is funny mark hits hard witness hits hard bp hits hard

DN evis hits not enough hard!

[uneven scarab]

Welp guess they just gotta buff evisc more

[tepid trellis]

[shut sonnet]

[tepid trellis]

go eat some beans

mfer

[spark tusk]

we eating beans in here?

[alpine wraith]

yea some frijoles

[shut sonnet]

NOT ME

[void hound]

yeh yeh now i get it

[keen dome]

baked beans on toast, let's go

[alpine wraith]

idk if i really want to make a video about it seems caner gaming

and i already dont recommend DS in dungeons anyway

[uneven scarab]

soon tho

[alpine wraith]

actually if tier set works with it

it will be better aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

send help

[uneven scarab]

Ds prison

[alpine wraith]

CTW about to hit 1m

per target

LOOK THE ROGUE IS USING SHADOWBLADES

when he is strike storm bpo

strike storm bp

or well with blades strike bp storm bp

strike bp storm bp

[uneven scarab]

Ctw hitting harder than secret tech cuz blades actually works with it

[alpine wraith]

uncapped

btw

[uneven scarab]

UNCAPPED ALSO

[alpine wraith]

but at what cost

[uneven scarab]

AAA

[alpine wraith]

if i didnt cba to log in and enter a dungeon i would try a NW

[uneven scarab]

at the cost of our sanity

[alpine wraith]

with the omega pull into boss

[pliant topaz]

Liar liar pants on fire

[alpine wraith]

also funny shit is you dont even lose mark every

so mark hits and hunt them down still work also singular focus

this is because sepsis died

[uneven scarab]

id take sepsis back if i knew this was the fate that was coming

[alpine wraith]

too late

[shut sonnet]

keep acting up and ill make you play sepsis sin rogue

[uneven scarab]

🐐

Sepsis sin

[alpine wraith]

actually goremaw stonks with new tier set

[lilac stag]

I miss sepsis

[alpine wraith]

yea it had an artistic way of killing ourself

not like coup this one was instant

you just BLINKED

and then dead

[rocky ocean]

Sepsis is pretty deadly irl too

[worn cape]

Do I always evis with full combo points or is 5 or 6 also fine?

[alpine wraith]

for DS 5+ is fine unless with darkest night up

for trickster it is 6+

[worn cape]

I see, I sometimes do it as 5. I guess that would be too much of a dps loss compared to doing another backstab to generate more cp.

[alpine wraith]

nah the diff is minimal

it is just there so people know kinda that sec tech and coup want as many as possible

[left saffron]

yo yo everyone. just leveled my rogue to 80 and was thinking to go sub. Coming from 2 mages and boredom hit me as we stuck at ovi. How is it looking for sub? last time i played was raiding with DFA and arena in df

mainly M+ btw

[worn cape]

so if I generate only 5 CP, I can just evis (not coup or sec tech) and it will still be more dps than spending another gcd on backstab?

[hazy breach]

Its good, not as good as assa but really solid

[left saffron]

more then enough. planning only around 3-3,1 k so solid is more then enough ^^

thank u

[gritty knot]

@ the sub high keys enjoyer: Anyone knows a trick for NW last boss when u get tp down and have to kill the add. I need to shadowdance and use secret technique to kill it fast because that stupid adds does lots of dmg after the stun. But if I do that i go up again and have no dance and no technique most of the times but my big cds are rdy to blast so i am kinda fucked....

i am talking like 15/16 nw

[vestal escarp]

The naked sod is alright

Sectech into it so you also coup the guy

The real trick is at that level to run it triple dmg if you go into as sub

[left saffron]

just a drop in really fast. With deathstalker if im in dance and 3rd mark is procced and its the second finisher post symbols where i would want to sectech. what has prio? Evis with 7 cps and having to 2x builder or skip mark and 1x builder into sectech so i use the supercharge on sectech but no mark?

just trying em out on dummies and didnt see it on guide

[vestal escarp]

DN has always prio

Try to get into dance with 1 mark

[left saffron]

dn?

[vestal escarp]

Darkest night

[left saffron]

even if i lose supercharge? cuz guide tells me to sectech 2nd without set. 1st with set

i dont have set. just dinged 20 min aog

*ago

so get into dance with 2 or 0 mark?

[vestal escarp]

Even more without set, if darkest night is up you press evis at 7 period and sectech afterwards

[left saffron]

mhh. so i dont care too much about the supercharge from symbols or play around it depending on mark charges

[vestal escarp]

If you wanna optimize around superchargers you would get into dance with Dn and evis into sectech (without set) or get into dance with 1 mark and sectech into evis (with set)

[left saffron]

kk ! so even if needed ill 2x builder in dance as DN has highest prio?

so i get a prio in my head for it

[vestal escarp]

Yes, it happens often it kinda sucks but dn always has prio

Because it gets marks rolling and all the benefits added

[left saffron]

kk thank you! was akward so came to ask ^^

Ill be back for Trickster as soon as i get this one down

[small juniper]

np

[hazy breach]

The buff upstairs is 40s, you have plenty of time to still fit your cds into it

But yes you absolutely send a dance on the add

If youre not using a cleaver you can skip dancing on the shield when your ally has just come up with the buff and cds

That usually lines it up well enough that you can send on every shield besides that one, 2 when you get up and 1 downstairs

[worn cape]

Wasn't there a list with current sub bugs? I can't seem to find it anymore.

[vale pine]

in the pins

[round latch]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[sick jackal]

you can play mandate

[steel zinc]

cool found a new bug on ptr if you max range shadow strike in a group you always get a full dc

probably has to do with them fixing coup 😄

[vale pine]

not good^^

[sacred path]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety WA's:
Class packs:

Fuu's Luxthos's LE's

Kieron's Devlin's

Utilities:

• Shadowcraft refund sound trigger
• Deathstalker mark nameplate border

[young mural]

Hey dudes

first of all, thanks @vale pine for the amazing resources on wowhead

secondly, with how many targets should i start black powdering?

(using nimble flurry)

[alpine wraith]

you want to get fw using the second charge of rotten

then at 4+

[sacred path]

Man you can really pump on short fights against bosses and shit

I feel a bit anemic pack to pack because I'm too stingy with cd though

[worthy relic]

is nado not working with shb a bug or intender?

[hazy breach]

Intended

Because otherwise we would use it on singletarget as well

[worthy relic]

okey, sadge

[hazy breach]

(yes its dumb, but nado feels terrible to use anyway and should get removed)

[worthy relic]

yea, wanted to try and was rly disapointed

[hazy breach]

Nado is just very anti-synergistic with the rest of our stuff now

[worthy relic]

yup

it was rly cool last expa and in sl

but now it just feels weird to use

[hazy breach]

Its very funny to me that the best way to use it is to not use it with our cooldowns

[sacred path]

Why wouldn't I macro shadow blades w flagellation

Is there a reason I'm not getting

[lilac stag]

The same reason you don’t macro sod and sd

You’re firing them off at different times.

[deft rain]

does DS just do way more evis damage compared to trickster?

[sacred path]

I thought I was always supposed to shadow blades w flagellation though

[lilac stag]

!guide

[wicked jolt]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by fuu
• Method - by Stealthi
• Icy Veins - by Eleem

[sacred path]

Hmm

[lilac stag]

Read Wowhead

[sacred path]

Yeah I'm reading it right now lol

[lilac stag]

Cooldown usage

[sacred path]

This is where it came from

Use Flagellation with enough combo points to finish after. Only if Shadow Blades is ready to be used after

So I don't do it because flagellation encompasses 24s?

Shadow Blades
Shadow Blades - The major cooldown. Usually lined up with Flagellation or used during the mastery buff of the spell

[swift tinsel]

Shadowblades has a shorter duration than flag, so you use it after so they end around the same time

[sacred path]

That makes sense

[hazy breach]

You want to use them together, but not at the exact same time

[sacred path]

I swapped to the method guide for opener and it lined them all out

And I just repeat that every flagellation window

Ok I've been doing some stuff pretty wrong back to practice

[hazy breach]

Sub is not intuitive at all so its often very hard to just yolo it

[lilac stag]

Sorry watching football not focused on discord. Someone got you the answers.

Drop macro usage for the most part. Everything is slightly independent.

[sacred path]

This will be easier than my previous strategy of trying to press every keybind at once without losing a gcd

[spark tusk]

yeah often you can get by in this game by just pressing buttons when they light up

not so for sub

[young mural]

subtlety feels crazy to me

started rogue in dragonflight, and found both outlaw and assasination much easier and intuitive to play compared to sub

to get the rotation/opener perfected takes much more effort and braincells

To this day, sub feels like the hardest and most complex specialization out of all classes/specs i've played

am I alone thinking like this?

[lilac stag]

No. You either get it or you don’t. Most give up.

Nothing is intuitive about it when it comes to wow gameplay.

[young mural]

sorry for the text wall btw

[young mural]

Good to know I'm not alone. Feel like I've gotten much better with time, but its insanely harder than everything else I've tried. I just can't seem to give up!

[lilac stag]

There’s a real reason this spec has an abysmal playrate in mythic content

In general the spec design is overly complex and those of us active in here have been playing it so long we’re numb to how stupid a lot of the nuances are when looking at almost every other spec in the game.

the visuals suck and give no feedback or excitement

So it’s really just you like it or you don’t.

With a lot of that things will get looked at.

[young mural]

Yhea, I feel that. Played alot of rogue, went to a warlock, felt really easy/simple to min/max it to the roof (with every single spec). Then came back to rogue and it highlighted how insanely complex and over the top you have to go to get sub rogue actually pumping.

Its crazy

BUT I WAS BORN TO BE SUBTLE.

With that said, much respect for Eleem, fuu, Stealthi and other people in this community that are doing a great job creating guides, theorycrafting and helping the few PvE sub rogues left out in the wild.

[tribal blade]

i hear that a lot from people coming from other specs

you can kind of send buttons in w/e order on some classes

but not rogue

[lilac stag]

Assa you can and still be “ok”

[tribal blade]

i guess so yeah

the only time it really matters is during kingsbane

[lilac stag]

You’re not going to purple parse

But that spec is forgiving

The hardest part is likely keeping mark up

[young mural]

I mean, I played only sub rogue during entire dragonflight. I tried assasination in TWW because its kind of broken. Felt WAYYYY easier than sub

Like 50%-75% easier. Idk why, parsing purple on bosses

I couldnt purple parse on sub for months, but with assasination I did it in a few tries

[lilac stag]

It’s slow. You have time to think. You really have to fuck up and there are more than 100 people playing the spec.

Sub you’re fighting for parses against people that are literally some of the best players of the spec accord the board

A purple parse quickly falls to blue or green

[young mural]

THIS. The fucking burst window in sub rogue is so fast, It's really easy to press the wrong thing at the wrong time and just fuck it up

[lilac stag]

Since there are so few of us

[young mural]

True. Makes a lot of sense statistically/.

[lilac stag]

Just don’t fuck up.

[spark tusk]

"us" didn't you go to survival

[lilac stag]

DK

[spark tusk]

(I'm also not "us")

[lilac stag]

I’ve been on sub all season.

I’m done

[spark tusk]

So have I

[young mural]

I mean, if you're here 95% chance you'd be considered one of "us"

[spark tusk]

Honestly for how much I yap in the assa channel my rogue has been sub for like 90% of the expansion

[lilac stag]

I have no interest in assa next season

And I don’t see any improvements coming to sub

If anything it’s getting worse not better

[young mural]

Yhea, patch notes came up empty for pretty much all rogue specs.

Just a "nerf" for Coup de Grace sadge

[young mural]

Thats really fucking hard for me for some reason

With that said, does anyone here want to 1v1 my afffliction warlock?

[pliant topaz]

not a nerf, that removal is a fucking godsend

[young mural]

Didnt even read it really, aren't they just fixing the range on Coup de Grace?

[pliant topaz]

no theyre removing the dash on it

thank god

[young mural]

oh thank god

its fucking annoying

[pliant topaz]

yep

[molten citrus]

it is though

for my dogshit minigame that is

[pliant topaz]

oh, yeah idk maybe it was useful in pvp

it was basically a "get killed for fun" button in pve

[molten citrus]

no one really runs trickster for either spec at this point tbh

so it's not a huge deal

[young mural]

btw why the fuck did they make it so hard to use treacherous transmitter? ffs so annoying

[pliant topaz]

yeah makes sense

[jovial forge]

You don’t like playing Where’s Waldo at the start of your rotation? 😂

[young mural]

Nice work on the terraria avatar, love that fucking game.

[tribal blade]

YO 1 LINE OF CHANGE

we're so back

[young mural]

Yhea, really rare to actually see someone running trickster in pvp.

[molten citrus]

it was pretty popular after 11.0.5

around a 50/50 split in representation for sub

but it didn't last

[jovial forge]

Thanks. It’s from Final Fantasy IV originally.

[young mural]

Damn thats unexpected. I dont really keep up with pvp stuff

We really get no love even when there's clearly a raid boss that's a sub rogue 😦

we're done for.

[lilac stag]

You’d actually have to play a rogue in your mini game to be concerned about the dash going buhbye

[lilac stag]

This maybe one of the fastest doomer turns we’ve had here in awhile.

[molten citrus]

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[pliant topaz]

okay!

[young mural]

😭

[lilac stag]

!transmitter

[wicked jolt]

The orb and circle from Treacherous Transmitter always spawn in the same spot. Relative to how your character is facing it spawns northeast/1:30 o'clock/frontright, this means you can know where it will spawn and react accordingly.
https://i.imgur.com/cTPN4Tz.png

[young mural]

what if it asks me to fucking jump 3 times?

💀

or stand still for 3 sec

[lilac stag]

/sit and let the buff expire

[young mural]

its crazy lol

[lilac stag]

It’s one of the easiest mini game trinkets they’ve done

[young mural]

tbh I preferred the 3 fucking water orbs from witherbark's branch over this shit

[lilac stag]

You have plenty of time to complete it. Just need to plan a little and not fuck it up (yes I know we’re established this is an issue already).

[young mural]

miss ashes of embersoul

...

[thick temple]

How do i tell which way is northeast for transmitter lol

Before the double marauder on the bridge in NW i usually have transmitter and it floats off the bridge and i cant get it

[young mural]

its top right when looking top down

cardinal directions O_O

[thick temple]

Oh it’s relative

[young mural]

yup

[spark tusk]

It's not northeast it's just forward and to the right

[lilac stag]

Don’t use it on bridges or under water

[young mural]

relative to where you were facing when you activated the trinket

fuck i love stacking vers and masteryt

fuck i love secret tech

sorry for babbling so much today, ill go back to complete silence for months now.

[tribal blade]

shit where's my compass

gotta find true north to use transmitter

[tribal blade]

oh dude we all yap in here a lot, nobody minds lol

dw

[young mural]

🙏

[round latch]

was about to make a cool joke about grid north but u aint healing

[vast swallow]

Hey Guys, sin and law rogue here...think to try in season 2 sub to learn All 3 speccs of rogue ...what do think about sub in season 2? Will be funny...or meh...

[vale pine]

the tier set does not work atm, and there is no change else.
It is probably good, but there is no way to predict it with current numbers/knowlage.

[vast swallow]

Ty for fast answer mate👍🙂

[naive folio]

you can predict, good odds your right

[void hound]

we quite literally have not gotten any changes yet

[keen dome]

Well, they took charge from coup. That's a change.

[void hound]

a much needed change that took, checks notes, 5 months or so

[vale pine]

tier set not working might be the biggest problem to predict power level

[keen dome]

Hopefully it's working in the next pass.

[lilac stag]

Growth mindset and sub rogue changes…cute.

BP buffed 35%

Surely 6 paragraphs of sub rogue improvements on Tuesday.

[keen dome]

[void hound]

open wowhead
new dev note update for PTR
oh boy
see a whole bunch of rogue changes
its all pvp

many such cases

[tribal blade]

haha i know what grid is 😉

[lilac stag]

@tribal blade are you around tonight? Was gonna try to get a vault done on the Woyer

[tribal blade]

yes! i'll be around

should be on around 8-9 est

[lilac stag]

I think I’ve got a 10 NW

[bright sundial]

hey guys ive been thinking all night and for S2 what if we go ds and take dark brew with the tier set but we lose all of left tree so idk I think my brain is cooked

ST

wish we could move these 2 points somewhere useful

[tribal blade]

if you want to play DB i think you'd want to drop swift death and pick up inev and 1 more symbols charge

because if you run 1 charge symbols sub right now it's probably heinous

oh not inev forgot you can't do that

[bright sundial]

even if I drop swift death those points go somewhere else and can only pick up inev and not extra sod

[tribal blade]

yeah you need to take PV

which blows

[bright sundial]

is veins troll no?

[tribal blade]

it's the only way to get to 1 more symbols charge

with that build

i put PE in there too because considering how much damage is gonna be in dance i'm guessing it's gonna become a good talent again

[hazy breach]

Problem with dropping Swift is that anything you can take instead is atrocious

[tribal blade]

yeah talenting DB fries your entire pathing

unfortunately

[hazy breach]

DB is fine for aoe as deathstalker

You take Swift anyway

[bright sundial]

yeah I knew this would be cooked its just all the extra shadow dmg we getting from blades, dark brew, tier set, and lingering is crazy no making db tree all shadow instead of plague

[hazy breach]

Plague already works with shadow stuff

[bright sundial]

what

i thought plague is nature dmg? that why i picked up dark brew

[hazy breach]

Plague is nature +shadow

[tribal blade]

the big thing you would gain from DB is turning rupture into shadow dmg

which means during dance if you have a finality rupture up

and the 4 pc at max stacks

rupture will be ticking for a lot

but hard to say if that's better than playing the more standard build which has much better talents

[bright sundial]

I see didnt know plague got benefits from nature and shadow but yeah would suck to play inev with 1 sod or have 2 but take veins

[tribal blade]

actually who knows what the 4pc is even gonna buff haha

[bright sundial]

welp dont mind my dumbass idea

[tribal blade]

no such thing as a bad idea right now, it's so early on

and everyone in here loves talking about build cooks ❤️

[bright sundial]

like I was like damn imagine all this shadow buffs talents with gloomblade plus all the ds tree dmg im smart (ps. not smart) XD

[tribal blade]

hey it could be the play! we won't know until everything's fixed and all the sims and tests are run

people usually have preconceived notions of what they think will be the move, and then it turns out to be the complete opposite

all the weird little interactions and things you wouldn't expect

[bright sundial]

yeah well guess all we can do is wait and wait and wait

[tribal blade]

like i fully expect for the 4pc to be buggy and not buff all of our shadow damage

like either sectec or shadowed finishers

[vale pine]

haha, maybe it will be hotfixed mid patch

so sub will get a indirect buff later

not that this happened before ^^

[tribal blade]

imagine they buff sub to bring us back up

and then the bugfix

and THEN we're the monster dps

[hazy breach]

4p only buffs shadow during dance so were unlikely to gloomblade during it

[formal helm]

make gloomblade baseline already

[keen dome]

Bring purple backstab home

[bright sundial]

make shrouded and shot in the dark baseline or remove them for 2 more points feels so bad to have them in pve content no?

[hazy breach]

Shrouded is fine

[tribal blade]

imagine if it became a gain to use gloomblade as 1st global in dance

considering the 60% shadow dmg amp

and then gaining a DM stack

for a fatter dance

[hazy breach]

Lingering shadows second dance poppin off

[tribal blade]

now we're talking

imagine if lingering worked on strike /cry

[hazy breach]

Lingering double dips of shadow damage increases, so it might be alright tbh

Like if you have db+vt+dd up: Your gloomblade does 100 damage and your first global of lingering will do ~125
Now with the tier active gloomblade is gonna do 160 but lingering will do 320 (160 x 1,6 x 1,25)

Same thing with blades on shadow damage spells

[tribal blade]

oh damn

now this is a cook

[lilac stag]

Enjoyable gameplay inc.

[hazy breach]

Fairly sure its still bad, but who knows

[lilac stag]

We need a tier list of most enjoyable to least enjoyable talent setups & and overlay of simc dps tier list for the talent setups. Show me where the highest overlap is.

[vestal escarp]

Lmao

The bros are cooking aberrus 2.0

Time goes on but we go one step further 3 backwards

[clever delta]

i dont want to be spitting poison this far from season 2, but "rogue devs" show again that they dont give up f*** about us 🙂

[rich lagoon]

hrm we are in a good spot damage wise imo

in M+ and raids

maybe thats why they think it's fine

[clever delta]

its like they managing some random indy game which is free to play and have 30 ppl playing and not blizzard company major source of income

[lilac stag]

The legion sub design all over again.

shit. dfa. shit.

shit. Super Trickster. shit.

[vestal escarp]

Mine was mostly a joke about abusing lingering and goonblade

[clever delta]

we are again doing this cycle >leave rogue to last>introduce new bugs meanwhile having bugs from previous expenasion> not able to fix new or old bugs before raid release> playing with bugs:)

[lilac stag]

when was the Lord of the rings build. Dbl ring with gloom.

I think I blocked that out

[keen dome]

Goonblade

[sacred path]

Not being able to tricks to pets is lame

[lilac stag]

You can

I tricks our shaman all the time

[vestal escarp]

Which spec

Cause that pet might be carrying your team

[lilac stag]

We don’t have that carry.

[left saffron]

quick question. i see guides recommending transmitter with dance+sod, on logs they do with Flagellation (i would macro it togheter in case)

what would be better?

[hazy breach]

I dont think guides are saying that

[left saffron]

so i take it as doing it with flag

[hazy breach]

Thats for completing the minigame

But it doesnt really matter when youre using it, as long as youre getting the buff at around that time its fine

[left saffron]

kk thanks for explaining it ^^

just got it so have to figure it out

[hazy breach]

I'd recommend using it with flag too

But thats because you have a few seconds to do the minigame

[left saffron]

thank you for taking time and explain it. will give it a shot

[vale pine]

i have transistor macroed to flag, also reduces your button count

[void hound]

yeah i have translator macrod too

[fallow nimbus]

I macroed transporter to flag too

[jaunty umbra]

my transducer is macroed to flag

[sly shore]

I have transgender macro to flag too

[vestal escarp]

Cringe radio

[worn cape]

Yeah my transgression is also macroed to flag.

[round latch]

Got chicken wings with seasoned potatoes for tonight

bbq sauce to dip

[sly shore]

[spark tusk]

same

big real

what were we talking about?

oh

[sly shore]

[hot plaza]

hey guys what level can the new ring be upgraded to pls? ty ❤️

[jaunty umbra]

655

[hazy breach]

Caps out at 58 next week

[hot plaza]

thanks so much ❤️

[barren junco]

Are we saving sectec for shadowdance in aoe?

[vale pine]

yes, you align your cooldowns to secret technqiue

[hazy breach]

Aoe or not doesnt really change the way we want to line up our spells

Only difference is that we get some more cp outside cds so we get some extra cdr, but the uses for those extra dances remains the same

[mystic ether]

If you have only one freedom available, how do you manage freeing yourself of roots in Queen* and in what order please?

[hazy breach]

Vanish first, cloak second, just break yourself out with damage on third

No need for freedom

[mystic ether]

That sounds good. We have an extra freedom on 3rd anyway so I get it.

For the first vanish, do you just vanish in SD?

[hazy breach]

Or cloak, or let it through and kill it

Doesnt particularly matter

[mystic ether]

I meant, do you use your vanish while in shadow dance? Cause the timer is awkward

[hazy breach]

ye

[viral girder]

Getting more use to it. Im realizing, having the "second" part of my opener macro is pointless and prob wasting alot of DPS because im noticing that sometimes the opener is pressing shadowstrike when I have 7 combo points already. So I might just... yeah i got changes to make.
Im still doing consistently around 1m dps atm but if i am skilled to start realizing that fuck up in the macro, i guess thats a good thing.

I know this is an issue I was warned about prio. But I wasnt experienced enough to notice the issue or care about the issue

But now im alot more comfortable to care and notice it myself

[formal pollen]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[paper siren]

Had anyone played sub in m+ on ptr? If so does aoe feel good? And is ds going to be the hero talent?

[hazy breach]

The tier set doesnt work

So it should feel exactly the same as it does on live

[viral girder]

Like doesnt work as in.. doesnt work. Or doesnt work as in its dog shit and just dont bother with a tier set

[hazy breach]

You cant lose the stacks ever and the shadow damage amp doesnt work (ie there is no shadow damage increase)

[viral girder]

That... is most def a bug that i assume will be fixed on live

I fail to believe otherwise

[alpine wraith]

yea man any day now sec tech will work with blades too

only 6 years

any day now

[plush roost]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[plush roost]

!wa

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety WA's:
Class packs:

Fuu's Luxthos's LE's

Kieron's Devlin's

Utilities:

• Shadowcraft refund sound trigger
• Deathstalker mark nameplate border

[kind bluff]

Wait, sectec doesnt benefit from blades?

[hazy breach]

Correct, it does not

[kind bluff]

Ah, that makes alot more sense. Ty as always Eleem.

[hazy breach]

It doesnt make sense no

[kind bluff]

I wondered why we popped it after the first sectec and I wasn't gonna question the people alpt smarter than me haha.

[sullen hare]

It's half that and half the fact that the length of the buff got nerfed iirc

[hazy breach]

You have premed anyway for the first strike so we still get full cp

So its worth more to get the cp from a strike later on rather than buffing that strike with the extra blades damage

[tribal blade]

just did a make a wish heroic queen

wtf is akaari's soul doing again

[hazy breach]

If the logger is on the other side that happens

[tribal blade]

oh that's tragic

[hazy breach]

They never fixed that

Despite it being a thing at dathea

[tribal blade]

i haven't done heroic queen in like over a month i think haha

dude next tier akaari's is going to 100% bug again

there's no way it doesn't

[hazy breach]

Tier set is not gonna buff sectech

[tribal blade]

yeah i have a feeling this is gonna be true

because fuck having good interactions with sub

speed has the rank 1 key

that guy is crazy good

[hazy breach]

With such an insanely offmeta spec too!

./s

[tribal blade]

LOL

[hazy breach]

Some have started to run enhance+ele in TGP practices

[tribal blade]

haha makes sense

insane output comp

[hazy breach]

One attempt i saw on mists 20 (that was depleted later, but anyway) they got first boss down to 17% after the debuff ended

[tribal blade]

jesus christ that's crazy

the ele was running 3 min ascendance to do that i'm guessing

[hazy breach]

Ye they only run 2 min if they get PI

Atleast usually, idk if theyre cooking

[tribal blade]

man put PI on an ele with 3 min ascendance

HUUUUUUGE burst

[sacred path]

nice got to take my sub into a raid it was only normal and 2 heroic

got some blues at 596 so i am happy, messed up alot though

[tribal blade]

yeah playing sub be like that haha

[sacred path]

got lots of good items though itll be stronger next week with another week to practice

[drowsy moon]

is it okay

found it sending the 2 min video soon I seperated the hanibal sound .-.

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/jwBGHlYNw5nFPxSo9?invite=cr-MSx3aW4sMjQ5OTEwNTE5LA does my dance and symbols save for second blades seem okay

or do I send 1 extra dance did I send it too much I am confused 😭

[hazy breach]

If you can send 2 sectechs, 2 dances and 2 symbols in your second burst, just like you do on you first

Its fine

If you cant, you prob sent too much before

[drowsy moon]

ohh

okay

I did

so it makes it fine

yay

I learned

it

thanks

guys

[tribal blade]

am i a psychopath for working on this

[hazy breach]

Yep but go ahead, have fun