thats not what the guide says so
#subtlety
vestal escarp
Theres shit you have to put on the scale, storming in dance as trickster slows down your escalating ramp
leaden prairie
second
vestal escarp
thats not what the guide says so
You can make decisions around it
hazy breach
Just like we said
hazy breach
Strike > storm > strike > strike
hazy breach
??
leaden prairie
thats what i said ?
vestal escarp
Spreading FW as trickster is only if you plan to bp in that pack, nible with fw interaction is minimal
leaden prairie
im so confused rn
swift tinsel
You're saying the same thing lol
sick jackal
I am just learning that we gotta spread fw
uneven scarab
strike more damage
leaden prairie
you will naturally end up with fw on all targets so you can freely swap target
anyway
uneven scarab
forced to storm for fw
vestal escarp
The "natural" gameplay would be to strike since with nimble is more dmg
Regardless of fw
swift tinsel
nimble strike doesn't spread fw I thought
vestal escarp
Nah trckster works even without pressing bp
Bp is just there to pad and feel less bad next to enha
uneven scarab
Bp is pretty much pad unless ur play ds
pliant topaz
when bp is shit, sub doesnt work
bp right now is doing 80% of evis's damage. at what point do we say its not bp being shit and design being shit?
vestal escarp
Cause bp on trickster has no prio interaction
sick jackal
bp right now is doing 80% of evis's damage. at what point do we say its not bp b...
We gotta pump those numbers those are rookie numbers
vestal escarp
bp right now is doing 80% of evis's damage. at what point do we say its not bp b...
Pvp spec
sick jackal
Bp for single target
leaden prairie
bp right now is doing 80% of evis's damage. at what point do we say its not bp b...
I didnt say sub design wasnt shit
pliant topaz
real
uneven scarab
Sub just has these holes where missing synergy/interactions should fill 
vestal escarp
(until it worked and sub was better both times)
sacred yarrow
But like..what even is sub, man?
a very haphazard ninja themed dagger soldier
leaden prairie
its kinda ok
keen dome
But like..what even is sub, man?
A miserable pile of secrets.
uneven scarab
sub is just kakashi, stealing other people’s jutsu’s
swift tinsel
misery no jutsu
sacred yarrow
but they stole it first
molten citrus
A miserable pile of secrets.
A miserable pile of secrets. ||(bugs)||
uneven scarab
swift tinsel
nothing if not consistent
vestal escarp
📈
uneven scarab
All 10 of the sub players in here im sure would love to wake up to a wall of text from blizzard on sub
vale pine
I mean sub has been the raid spec
sin was "the" raid spec for most of wow ^^
swift tinsel
I'd settle for 1, maybe even 2 if I'm feeling saucy
vestal escarp
Honestly man it would be a nightmare to see a wall of changes
Like that day i would cease to live
sick jackal
All 10 of the sub players in here im sure would love to wake up to a wall of tex...
Yes we got some new people here its fun seeing new faces
uneven scarab
I think sub was really only the “raid spec” when the timers were right or they had specific damage amps
swift tinsel
Unless it comes out and is a michelin-star cook bc I think that's what it'd take
uneven scarab
Assa was just consistently solid in raid
Bruh i dont even care if its changes i want fixes first
Delete coup dash
Make sectech work with blades
swift tinsel
Said many times, a bugfix patch over a balance patch would be amazing
uneven scarab
Who tf thought coup dash was cool
sick jackal
Make sectech work with blades
This bug is the most funny one
uneven scarab
Or a good idea
uneven scarab
Like sub doesnt need to be more mobile either lmao
vestal escarp
Bugs rn are not crippling, save for DS
swift tinsel
just need Burst of Speed for the grail
cloud perch
830 overall dps GB 6 as 604 ilvl good or not so
vestal escarp
Did you have fun?
swift tinsel
and did you beat the tank
uneven scarab
Mfw prot pallies bursting higher than most dps specs in keys 
hazy breach
Mfw sub is a burst spec but shamans burst literally twice as much as we do 
vestal escarp
And not only shams
swift tinsel
they certainly worked to rein them in at any point this season
vestal escarp
swift tinsel
maybe s2 they'll do 15-20% more per pull than everyone else instead of 30%
uneven scarab
rocky ocean
Elemental can do 20 million aoe pulls but nah we cant fix blades+st
what if that's intended
jaunty umbra
vestal escarp
From the wall of text that was enha notes for 11.1 i skimmed that they're getting more sustained oriented
But didnt catch if their burst got nerfed
swift tinsel
so 30% more sustainted dps per pull
uneven scarab
uneven scarab
what if that's intended
If its intended this game is more doomed than ever
still anvil
how do i play ansurek roots?
still anvil
i see thanks
timber nimbus
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
cloud perch
Did you have fun?
yes
cloud perch
and did you beat the tank
yes
leaden prairie
sin was "the" raid spec for most of wow ^^
its been the raid spec since i started the game in sl for me
but maybe
lofty saffron
Is Coup de Grace still bugged? If so, what’s the bug? Thank you
lofty saffron
Okay good to know, details saying it struck 6 times for like 400k average was confusing
Only pressed once
hazy breach
Thats what it does
Its randomly split into 3 physical hits, which means theres also 3 shadow hits
For 6 hits total
lofty saffron
Oh damn, always thought it was a single evis at 12/15 CP
lofty saffron
Yeah no problems at all if the numbers add up, just couldn’t figure it out on details. Thank you!
pliant topaz
It doesnt give Slice and dice when used, but thats a minor bug
pretty sure it still misses hits if you leave melee range '
like cast it -> go out of melee -> hits dont go off (i think, not sure how to replicate it)
but it doesnt happen all the time
so idk
hazy breach
Ye it sometimes fizzles on dummies too but it doesnt seem to happen in combat
Not sure why
uneven scarab
Atleast trickster made me forget about my parry hatred this tier
hazy breach
Im stuck playing assa in keys now
pliant topaz
why what happened
hazy breach
And even in 17s mobs frequently die before my KB is over because shamans are very balanced 
pliant topaz
you were going so far
hazy breach
Pulls are organized around shamans, so sub generally ends up with horrid timings
And when timings are bad you do zero damage
small hemlock
when you are a Scottish Rogue
hazy breach
Enhance does noticeably bigger burst than sub anyway
vestal escarp
Profile got better but still unfriendly for overall dmg
vestal escarp
Most strats nowdays involve pulling shit on bosses and that helps sin
molten citrus
when you are a Scottish Rogue
l0l
hazy breach
Since shaman wants to bank tempest
uneven scarab
Theres a single mob left with like 20m
YES
hazy breach
And sub does nothing
hazy breach
If there wasnt an aug and a tempest banking shaman
uneven scarab
ur doin 0 dam
hazy breach
It would be way better for sub
pliant topaz
Yea i remember that situation too
hazy breach
Thats why the russian sub guy plays without aug
vestal escarp
and it takes forever
Sending just a dance there is also int because you dont cdr back when traveling to the other pack
hazy breach
(or i would assume)
uneven scarab
Sending just a dance there is also int because you dont cdr back when traveling ...
yep
feels terrible
pliant topaz
(or i would assume)
thats also why i was advecating for sod/dance recharge when in stealth instead of tfd
vestal escarp
A solution i seemed to have found about timings was being aggressive with non flag dances but you just cant do it if yout dont farm back the charge for cds
vestal escarp
thats also why i was advecating for sod/dance recharge when in stealth instead o...
Yeah man id love to have uhuh
uneven scarab
Aint nothing new lets just keep stealing outlaw’s toys
vale pine
the outlaw glyth looks nice
uneven scarab
Where sub glyph for kyveza animations 
vale pine
13.0 for sure 
pliant topaz
Yeah man id love to have uhuh
it was just an idea to help with m+ because sitations like that happen a lot and you really cannot afford to send a dance/sod for something like that, so it ends up feeling aweful,and youre just feeling starved the whole key.
this wouldnt affect raid either
but its w/e
im not doing m+ anymore so idc really
vestal escarp
it was just an idea to help with m+ because sitations like that happen a lot and...
Sorry bud i wasnt sarcastic, it's a good idea
vale pine
this wouldnt affect raid either
would be too much qol
pliant topaz
Sorry bud i wasnt sarcastic, it's a good idea
I know ahha
pliant topaz
would be too much qol
maybe they can steal the idea for mages!
vestal escarp
If we cant have resources more often the good alternative is to have an incentive to be more aggressive with them
Or buff flag
By double ig
vale pine
maybe they can steal the idea for mages!
I think subtelty needs to get extreme conditions on top of skills/talents by design team opinion.
The first dance design is a wow first to add extra conditions to this degree for example.
alpine wraith
also 10/10 choice making subterfuge completely useless for sub
vestal escarp
If it wasnt a nightmare to code you could add conditions of getting out of combat after the enemies you're in combat with died
alpine wraith
i will be so happy they kill shadowed finishers
alpine wraith
same as nightstalkmer maybe we need to wait for them to accept their incompetence or lack of resources of making things complicated
pliant topaz
what else are they gonna fill it with ?
pliant topaz
oh wait i have an idea! imrpvoed backstab? what if it .... improved your backstab to make your auto attacks do more shadow damage!
pliant topaz
improved storm? what if it.... improved your storm to make your auto attacks do more shadow damage
alpine wraith
??¿¿
pliant topaz
find weakness? what if it let your auto attacks do more shadow damage
damn i should be a designer
alright I got a meeting in 5 cyall later
vestal escarp
Bro is apeing at hunt them down when fatal intent still alive
vestal escarp
It gets 0 value fast packs
Extremely situational
And thank god it does mop dmg
Cause we already discussed the nightmare of timing dance+sod amps for it
bleak wind
since when are the new gems hasted, I swear wowhead had it listed as just 4 pppm
lilac stag
alright I got a meeting in 5 cyall later
Funny way to say League
pliant topaz
nah i actualyl had a meeting
theyre trying to convince me into doing a phd
btu jokes on them
i still have ptsd from my masters
lilac stag
League
pliant topaz
- hes not wrong
- not sure yet, im back to full time at my current job, but im probably gonna start looking for something more interesting
wind canopy
2) not sure yet, im back to full time at my current job, but im probably gonna s...
Didn’t you work on ML/AI stuff?
pliant topaz
my masters or my current job?
my research was in 3D Machine learning for my masters yea
keen dome
Oh, that's rad.
pliant topaz
my current job is just cloud SWE
but i want something more interetnig
idk if i can get a research based job though, those require a phd
usualyl
pliant topaz
yeah they let me work 3 days a week while i did my grad school
wind canopy
Ah
pliant topaz
it was a nightmare between working 24 hours a week, 60 hours a week on my research, and 90 hours a week coping on wow
wind canopy
it was a nightmare between working 24 hours a week, 60 hours a week on my resear...
The last one was self-inflicted 
pliant topaz
I blame realz for that one
wind canopy
pliant topaz
jk its okay, i cope about league now
wind canopy
lilac stag
At least you get some dev attention in that cope.
pliant topaz
have you tried tft? it gets a full video every patch by the lead game designer going over the patch, changes, updates, thoughts.
like every 2 weeks
LMFAO
lilac stag
me and league would be a bad combo
pliant topaz
tft is not really league though
keen dome
I like how they do it for FF14. Every major content drop has a big presentation. They even have printouts to show you of the new armours, it's great.
pliant topaz
wow kinda does that for major patches too, through wowhead and their interviews
to be fair to them
keen dome
Ye, they do.
It's just very spread out information rather than one big thing. But you still get supplmentary interviews in 14, etc.
There's some good thoughts in a lot of those interviews, though.
pliant topaz
idk about that ngl
every interview they do is the same 5 questions
and then the smae 5 PR answers
keen dome
That's fair, but I feel every time there's some decent stuff about non-central elements. For the central, core stuff it's the same but, I dunno.
Trying to find an example but I can't remember any so maybe I'm just being wishful.
pliant topaz
I think its just a byproduct of the games focus
Like there are some interviews (dev/ian) where they talk about design/classes/m+/raid etc
and its like okay, they kinda share some thoughts w/e
but their main broadcast is just an advertisement for the new patch and tis features
It just seems to me that the games focus is on the world and the zones etc
not the classes / gameplay
keen dome
Ye, very true
pliant topaz
which is fine
league is purely gameplay focused so you get all the communication on the gameplay
uneven scarab
tft is not really league though
Tft is fun
Girlfriend got me into it
as someone who used to degen league years ago
It gets some really great attention from the devs as well
pliant topaz
i mean tft is really really really big
uneven scarab
Yeah its huge
keen dome
Wow
uneven scarab
Super casual but also the skill ceiling is super high at the same time
Really enjoyable
pliant topaz
yaeh this patch feels really really good!
hot plaza
in aoe guys outside of shadowdance is the play to keep backstab to refresh flawless form buff when using shuriken storm please or have i read this wrong? ty guys ❤️
pliant topaz
like outside of chembarons and galaxy stuff its great
uneven scarab
Gp this patch is my goat
pliant topaz
in aoe guys outside of shadowdance is the play to keep backstab to refresh flawl...
its correct. just backstab when you dont have flawless form up. else storm (outside dance ofc)
gp is really good yeah
my main problem is lack of playable 4 cost frontline/carries
uneven scarab
Im not sure i love the 6 costs also
pliant topaz
like everyu comp either needs illaoi or garen
uneven scarab
viktor is mad annoying
pliant topaz
and its so contested u either hit or u go 8th
uneven scarab
To play against
pliant topaz
4 cost backline carries are also weird
like corki/ambessa are turbo contested
and zoe/heimer arent stable
uneven scarab
Yeah corki is the only one i really see
uneven scarab
The rest are dead
pliant topaz
nah silcos super strong
and has a really high cap
twitch is also lowkey good for going top 3
uneven scarab
Ive played a bunch of emissary mainly
pliant topaz
i fully gave up on emissaries
uneven scarab
It can be turbo cancer lmao
uneven scarab
just dont see a garen or ambessa the whole game for no reason
pliant topaz
like u hit? great
uneven scarab
Yeah it does
pliant topaz
u dont hit? 8th
i played tft super hardcore before leaguem
i was like 100lp ish masters, just played twitch and silco
and sometimes urgot
litearlly gave up on any ad compt that ewasnt twitch
the chance of me hitting was soo low it never felt worth it
uneven scarab
Ad comps are always what i lean towards
pliant topaz
i played AD academy for a while but then corki and illaoi were super contested and heimer isnt stable
I prefer AP, i can play silco always if not contested
and if im contested, i can go for heimer sentinals and get a top 4 usually
uneven scarab
Did you play the music patch? I forget what it was called
I was really grinding during that one
pliant topaz
oh last set?
uneven scarab
Liked it alot
pliant topaz
nah i didnt play it
uneven scarab
i think it was last set
uneven scarab
Yep
pliant topaz
cuz like everytime someone hits 2-1 chembarons
uneven scarab
Every lobby turns into who hits the gamba
pliant topaz
youre like welp, at brest im play ing for 2
uneven scarab
of good shops
pliant topaz
yeah thats the worst of tft
where its like 1 comp everyones going for and youre just gambling cuz nothing else is platyabl
but right now, outside of galaxy balance it feels like you can play most things, just not go first
hot plaza
its correct. just backstab when you dont have flawless form up. else storm (outs...
awesome ty mate ❤️
uneven scarab
Yeah pretty much
Thats why I’ve defaulted to gp mainly
I dont see him contested that often
vale pine
yeah sometimes tft has that ngl
autobattlers are by default rng, its normal ^^
pliant topaz
theres RNG in them
but theyre not purely RNG
which is why people can climb
same people get challenger
vale pine
oh no, it is a balance between adding rng and control
pliant topaz
etc etc
vale pine
you play for consistency not for highest chance to win
pliant topaz
yeah thats why when you have super oppresive comps and bad balancing
it becomes RNG
but when theres good balancing it becomes more strategic
vale pine
because the highest chance to win is often inconsistent
i played autochess and tried tft when it came out ^^
also atm playing a bit of "the bazaar" which is also similar
pliant topaz
try tft again
its come a long way since then
its really really fun now
and alot more skill based
vale pine
i found it missing some of the tft mechanics i liked, but i think they heavily iterated over it
i might try it
pliant topaz
yeah i think youll like it
gritty knot
quick question: is this legendary citrine really the best for the new ring in m+? idk, but it always does around like 1% overall dmg for me and thats it
i expected way more idk
hazy breach
It also adds buffs
vale pine
Whens the last time you tried it?
when it came out ^^
vale pine
Bazaar goes hard
yes, also i hope open beta soon, so more people can play it
gritty knot
+14 CoT, that comment actually made me feel so good for the first time since every fkn time even in lower keys ppl don't want me to play sub xD
kind narwhal
+14 CoT, that comment actually made me feel so good for the first time since eve...
after you paste it in ms paint you can select the area that has a pic and ctrl shift x
gritty knot
actually thats pretty nice to know thx because everytime I did this, I asked myself how can i get rid of that white area haha
kind narwhal
did you do the the same thing in your pfp 
wind canopy
Windows + Shift + S to screenshot a select area.
gritty knot
did you do the the same thing in your pfp <:OMEGALUL:885746444248707133>
idk actually but thats just a friend who I trolled haha
kind narwhal
Windows + Shift + S to screenshot a select area.
yea but they combined 2 images in one
first
i assumed they'd already figured out how to win+shift+s, then paste both into mspaint
they could've just win shift s'd the image regions though
wind canopy
I figured you just do it for one, paste it in here, then do it for the other and paste it in here 
elfin hound
we're still transmitter enjoyers in next raid? 
hazy breach
Very likely for a while atleast
But PTR isnt up, so maybe some of the damage trinkets are better than they seem 
uneven scarab
uneven scarab
if they dont i do feel we will play it for a good while
hazy breach
Prob nerfing transmitter and spymaster
lilac stag
vestal escarp
wth are we playing if they nerf transmitter 
hot plaza
In aoe why is backstab used so much pls when shuriken storm gives more combo points and after one backstab we have the flawless buff but all videos I watch people mainly use backstab? Ty ♥️👍
hazy breach
Its not, youre probably seeing strike
hot plaza
@hazy breach Outside of dance mate?
hazy breach
Idk what youre watching, but you def dont backstab over storm on multiple targets
Even the one for flawless is not very relevant anymore now that BP does damage
hot plaza
That’s what I thought mate. So do I need to backstab in aoe to apply the flawless buff before using storm or is that not important anymore? Is BP used now as it wasn’t last time I was playing sub? Ty mate
hot plaza
Ok thanks mate. So is BP used now?
hazy breach
Yes
5 or more
As trickster that is
2 targets for deathstalker
BPs pure ST damage isnt far from eviscerate, esp as deathstalker
ember mural
is it normal to BP dmg don't appear in my logs with DS?
hot plaza
As trickster that is
Awesome thanks so much for your help mate appreciate it loads ♥️👍
hazy breach
is it normal to BP dmg don't appear in my logs with DS?
Sounds odd
Nvm seems perfectly normal
weary plank
Hey guys I used to play sub rogue in SL it was go to spec but right now everyone plays assa in high keys is there huge gap between 2 specs ?
hazy breach
Not huge no, but assa is slightly better at higher keys especially
Sub is among the best non-meta specs
ember mural
Nvm seems perfectly normal
i see now, thx
weary plank
Sub is among the best non-meta specs
How is the aoe ? I don’t see black powder anymore back then it used to do giga damage in aoe without target cap I think
hazy breach
You should see black powder
weary plank
I played with a sub rogue in group yday he was doing very good ST damage but his aoe was something different
round latch
all sub variants play sectech
BP does reduced dmg above 8 targets iirc
95% certain here
tribal blade
BP does reduced dmg above 8 targets iirc
it does
uncap it
make sub the true aoe god
round latch
its very good ST but what prophet said^^
tribal blade
the best thing about sub's ST is you get basically almost the entire kit in aoe talents
kind bluff
So do we always use a shadow dance with sectec?
hazy breach
You always use sectech during dance yes
kind bluff
Do we ever hold sectec at all or will they naturally line up when done right?
Basically I'm having sectec come up without dance
pliant topaz
sectech has more cdr than dance so it will come up faster. there are some rare times u can sectech without dance (when theres 25-30 ish sec on flag left, and u wont be dancing), but u can ignore this and only sectech in dance even if its off cd
kind bluff
Tyty
spark tusk
just kiss - keep it simple stupid - just sectec with dance
you'll have moments where you'll think "huh maybe I could have sectec out of dance there" and yeah maybe so, but be comfortable with spotting those first before just always trying to establish rules for it
you'll learn how to take advantage of those times with practice, for now focus on the basics
sectec in dance
steel zinc
sectech has more cdr than dance so it will come up faster. there are some rare t...
how much % is that?
teal prawn
Yes for sure
steel zinc
incoming rogue notes?
pliant topaz
incoming rogue notes?
you told me it was the last time dude.... again?....
rocky ocean
Rogue
spark tusk
Rogue
tribal blade
you told me it was the last time dude.... again?....
i know i'm sorry 😦
i'm riding the copium train
edgy zenith
bro I need out of Ansurek prog
someone help
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hGpVDFKvqZB2acTN?fight=26&type=damage-done
I'm fucking blasting and it don't matter
back to back rank 1 pulls
i need out
been like this for a week now
swear to god im gonna finish prog with liek an 80 or soemthing because I scuff something
pliant topaz
He’s clearly a false… prophet…
Bros been lying to us. Almost as much as people who told me it gets better once u hit masters. I’ve realized masters is the real true elo he’ll
wind canopy
Bros been lying to us. Almost as much as people who told me it gets better once ...
Goddamnit @tribal blade
pliant topaz
liek i played 6 games tody, went 4-2. only 1 of those 6 games were actually a real game
sick jackal
Bros been lying to us. Almost as much as people who told me it gets better once ...
There is no "it gets better" in league
sick jackal
(put ur cb+sectech macro on stealth bar)
No.
pliant topaz
There is no "it gets better" in league
idk man, at what point you get to play the game?
every game had like 3 diamond rats and like 3 gm players
and its like whichever team has more diamond players loses
like okay
my jungler doesnt have hands ig
sick jackal
idk man, at what point you get to play the game?
I dont play the game a lot but my best friend is a esports guys here in turkey we chat a lot (while waiting for m+ in dornogal)
sick jackal
and its like whichever team has more diamond players loses
I played to diamond realised that and stopped playing
pliant topaz
okay but i thought maybe once i get to GM / master lobbies it gets better
and its like, ah yes this is the real elo hell
im surprised they managed to turn ont heir computer on their own
plush roost
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hGpVDFKvqZB2acTN?fight=26&type=damage-done
...
Holy spiderling pad batman
edgy zenith
our tanks were dying to spiderlings, so I started sending on spiderlings
tepid trellis
okay but i thought maybe once i get to GM / master lobbies it gets better
even in chall its like that bro xD
plush roost
How did you manage to get a guild that doesn't delete those adds haha
plush roost
Haha fair enough, i do think you'd get more value out of hitting the boss in p3 tho :p
sick jackal
im surprised they managed to turn ont heir computer on their own
League gives that feeling i played at emerald eu west for a while and people didnt have basic thought procces i much prefer the wow community
edgy zenith
Haha fair enough, i do think you'd get more value out of hitting the boss in p3 ...
oh you're talking about P3 spiders?
thought you meant platforms
P3 spiders, everyone send the sectech into the spiders
I'm just doing it better
tepid trellis
no reason not to
edgy zenith
exactly
tepid trellis
its like the only wipe condition in p3
edgy zenith
amen
pliant topaz
even in chall its like that bro xD
im 140lp, im like 150 off of gm cutoff i think. maybe i can hit it in 2 days idk
edgy zenith
not pad if it's the only mechanic
plush roost
Yeah you're also mashing powder, idk just to me seems like you could be pressing better buttons on the boss is all.
sick jackal
im 140lp, im like 150 off of gm cutoff i think. maybe i can hit it in 2 days idk
Isnt gm full where you play?
pliant topaz
what do you mean
edgy zenith
powder is a damage gain at 5+ targets, and it's like 85% of an evis
sick jackal
If i remember correctly min gm lp was 300
pliant topaz
If i remember correctly min gm lp was 300
pretty sure it changes
edgy zenith
from the BPs
pliant topaz
it has # of players cutoff
sick jackal
And after certain amount of people get gm it changes
pliant topaz
but its around there
tepid trellis
also "mashing" is a strong word for 8 uses over almost 3min
sick jackal
it has # of players cutoff
Yeha but there is a min value aswell for season start
Like below 300lp you cant be gm
pliant topaz
ill check its probably around 300. I looked at the ladder and the person getting promoted was like 310
sick jackal
Even if there is no gm
pliant topaz
so i need like 160-170 i think
sick jackal
ill check its probably around 300. I looked at the ladder and the person getting...
Then it is just full you play on NA?
pliant topaz
yeah
pliant topaz
makes sense i guess
sick jackal
Didnt know NA was that bad tbh
plush roost
why would I not
Its not bad I'm just jelly my guild kills those adds in 5 globals tbh haha
pliant topaz
its probably not
tepid trellis
Its not bad I'm just jelly my guild kills those adds in 5 globals tbh haha
they do here aswell he just insta snipes with a CB sectech
sick jackal
its probably not
I checked the numbers i am wring min for gm is 200
pliant topaz
yeah makes more sense
pliant topaz
probably around there yeah last i checked was a few weeks ago
its end of the split
so its weird, probably not hitting it
edgy zenith
they do here aswell he just insta snipes with a CB sectech
yeah, I think I just min/maxed the fuck outta the timings
because we have fucking 350+ pulls
get me the FUCK out
tepid trellis
yeah you lined it up perfectly
sick jackal
i gotta reclear tmrw
Why do you reclear btw?
tepid trellis
for your 2nd dance sectech to snipe them
sick jackal
because we have fucking 350+ pulls
I am getting court ptsd
pliant topaz
honestly based
sick jackal
We have like 336 pulls on it aswell
tepid trellis
werent that bad for me xD
sick jackal
wht even kills u on that fight at this point
Before nerfs
We killed like 4 weeks ago
pliant topaz
we killed it before that but i swear it was just betrayal even then
edgy zenith
werent that bad for me xD
yeeeeeah, we're not doing so hot lmao
tepid trellis
we killed it before that but i swear it was just betrayal even then
dispells
pliant topaz
i havent been on court in 2-3 weeks mashallah
tepid trellis
when the timing was actually tight for it
tepid trellis
thats what i just said
pliant topaz
idk i havent been on court in 3 weeks
tepid trellis
back then it was tight
sick jackal
we killed it before that but i swear it was just betrayal even then
We are a kinda chill guild tbh
tepid trellis
now its a joke
pliant topaz
i think im on court tmrw
but not on princess
even thought princess is the only boss i need
cinema
sick jackal
even thought princess is the only boss i need
Still no transmittee?
tepid trellis
you can log into my acc on thursday and do princess
pliant topaz
nope
tepid trellis
you are welcome
pliant topaz
thanks that means alot mr racon
sick jackal
You can have my acc aswell its full bissed out
pliant topaz
yall think i wanna play wow?
tepid trellis
i have full BiS for both sub and Assa so you can play w/e
dunno im digging up dirt in Lost ark
pliant topaz
im about to pull a "my hamsters boyfriend broke up with her i gotta go be there for her" so i can not show up
sick jackal
im about to pull a "my hamsters boyfriend broke up with her i gotta go be there ...
Start uni and tell em you got finals
Thats what i do
pliant topaz
it was le 3 weeks ago
sick jackal
I just finished my masters cant even do that
Cant you go to uni again?
pliant topaz
booomer raacoon
tepid trellis
okay buddy
sick jackal
im a bit too old
My class mate is 56 he is older than my dad and we get abstract algebra together
tepid trellis
condolences
sick jackal
There is no too old
tepid trellis
(the math part)
pliant topaz
i like math
sick jackal
(the math part)
I am majoring in theo maths
pliant topaz
and so do u mr j
sick jackal
Peak nerd here
tepid trellis
i like math
you are also weird
sick jackal
i like math
Same
pliant topaz
based
tepid trellis
fucking hate it
sick jackal
@pliant topaz What did you master in?
pliant topaz
<@639956635300790285> What did you master in?
my research was in 3D computer vision
tepid trellis
pliant topaz
oh is that fun?
spark tusk
you are also weird
damn ur the odd oen out here
tepid trellis
define fun
pliant topaz
that sounds more fun
sick jackal
i research
İs it like checking logs on people?
tepid trellis
i get to have 0 human interaction and just do my own thing
but i have to go through million of pages of paper work
sick jackal
i get to have 0 human interaction and just do my own thing
My life summarised
tepid trellis
damn ur the odd oen out here
go away fossil
alpine wraith
what helps me most is every human interaction i have to do i get paid by the call so they usually dont bother
dont have many this could be solved in an email
pliant topaz
i get to have 0 human interaction and just do my own thing
i kinda liike this a lot
alpine wraith
yea it is fire
sick jackal
what helps me most is every human interaction i have to do i get paid by the cal...
I wish i had the same
Teaching engineers suck
I should be paid by the call aswell tbh
pliant topaz
i unfortunately have to deal with ba and pms
alpine wraith
usually when i get clueless people to message me directly i kindly tell them to contact L1 or there is a number they can call and tell them the cost
if they keep at it i block them send ss to a place
alpine wraith
yea man there will be TESTING soon
blizz will feel the weight if the 3 subs testing the spec
sick jackal
The worst i had was in a mathlab class someone was like my computer doesnt work i checked the pc everything is fina and the guy literally didnt know he had to press the power button
sick jackal
are u guys xcited for the rogue paragraph tmrw?
No
pliant topaz
ngl
sick jackal
I have 0 hope of our paragraph
spark tusk
you ok?
sick jackal
nerfing rogue in pvp
We removed cheapshot in pvp
rocky ocean
they already removed shadow duel
pliant topaz
??? Paragraph??
ofc what else
tepid trellis
make outlaw the raid spec for 1 season so i can quit the game
spark tusk
like 2-3 words
pliant topaz
make outlaw the raid spec for 1 season so i can quit the game
same
rocky ocean
I have 0 hope of our paragraph
sub doesn't really need a paragraph, just 2 lines
we fixed bugs
here is your 1.5 min agi trinket
spark tusk
you did it
tepid trellis
forgot 2nd point
pliant topaz
based LE as usual
tepid trellis
rogue:
- get fucked
- lmao xd
spark tusk
based LE as usual
nah, you made that happen. It was all you, I just told you to do it
sick jackal
rogue:
- get fucked
- lmao xd
Thats 5 words too much rogue interaction for blizz
alpine wraith
before or after the 4 page manifesto for shadow rework
or druid changes or hunter ones
pliant topaz
nah, you made that happen. It was all you, I just told you to do it
we are the dream team. come q up league with me!
jk save yoursoul
spark tusk
lmao moments before disaster
round latch
make outlaw the raid spec for 1 season so i can quit the game
this is beyond evil
round latch
if that happens ill be walking through the same door
tepid trellis
we would need an outlaw rework for it to happen tho
which likely wont
so there is that
sick jackal
hey ill be quitting if that happens so its all for you guys
Then who manages this wild discord with a lot of people
left ledge
ive given up hope
sacred yarrow
Then who manages this wild discord with a lot of people
anarchy 
alpine wraith
i mean i've been on the wild ride for 20 years already
even if goes worse cant care enough!
good thing is we got to see the new nvidia and amd things in CES
so people can make memes about those
sick jackal
anarchy <:dracthyr_tea:1002328384623345674>
Yes me and the other 3 sub rogues will have anarchy
alpine wraith
maybe we need to make sub rogue AIs
tepid trellis
Then who manages this wild discord with a lot of people
you think i do anything lol?
sick jackal
you think i do anything lol?
Dunno orange says mod
I remember officing my guild back in my day
haughty mural
Yes me and the other 3 sub rogues will have anarchy
tepid trellis
tbh he does it to himself mostly
wind canopy
alpine wraith
stealthi is an upstanding man
teal prawn
It’s deserved
alpine wraith
armin enjoys it he plays league after all
he is made to last tho playing league and wow
reinforced titanium mental
left ledge
Stealthi gives me grim reminders of s2 DF on random occasions for no reason
I’d say that’s some form of management
void hound
the upside of only 10 people playing sub is this channel hardly needs any moderation
rocky ocean
sounds like a challenge
alpine wraith
didnt have to do much moderation ever yea
hollow spear
I've taken off work tomorrow so I have enough time to study all the big changes we'll be getting in tomorrow's class update
round latch
pliant topaz
I've taken off work tomorrow so I have enough time to study all the big changes ...
they already got leakedd
just read a few message above
keen dome
Maybe they'll remove the remaining visual flair of SecTec.
Bring it in line with everything else.
void hound
!wa
vestal escarp
ParagraphS
keen dome
Paragraph 1: We added Posion toggle Developer notes: We got tired of someone tweeting Posion toggle when?? at us
Paragraph 2: We removed Subtley Rogue from the game.
vestal escarp
Lets go
Freedom from this game
Also
If only it took some perpetual ritualposting on twitter to make them do changes
If only
keen dome
They're gonna give us an amazing list of changes, including posion toggle, and it'll move DB higher into the tree, make gloomblade baseline, and give me a mythic transmitter
round latch
hold on im searching for a big copium meme
keen dome
it's just me
lilac stag
are u guys xcited for the rogue paragraph tmrw?
Rogue: "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum."
plush roost
Rogue: "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod ...
Buddy you casting some sorta spell? This is america. Get that commie mage bullshit back into dalaran. 🦅
lilac stag
iykyk
lilac stag
We barely know 2+2
plush roost
american doesnt know lorem ipsum
Haha gotcha buddy, I'm not American. I'm Canadian! We still serve the queen innit govna
rough rivet
Haha gotcha buddy, I'm not American. I'm Canadian! We still serve the queen inni...
damn i got bamboozled
keen dome
Haha gotcha buddy, I'm not American. I'm Canadian! We still serve the queen inni...
i've got some bad news
plush roost
Don't tell me
keen dome
brenda's carked it
plush roost
Fug
lilac stag
damn i got bamboozled
He doesn’t realize he’s the 51st state yet
haughty mural
the animation is quite nice
not sure if thats part of the memeing in here
I may have been living under a rock the last couple weeks
we got some animation ?
tribal blade
Paragraph 1: We added Posion toggle *Developer notes: We got tired of someone tw...
not sure if i'm now free or in hell
why not both
upbeat dragon
rocky ocean
when flawless form is up, when coup is not up, and there are 5 and more targets
lilac stag
and you have find weakness up
idle aurora
Man I wish sub just had like 1 more yard of range lol why did they remove the extra range talent
grand wyvern
paladin mafia
small juniper
lilac stag
Too soon
hazy breach
I love upgrading my ring
lilac stag
I love our dev notes and interactions.
keen dome
Another 20% to BP?
hazy breach
Another 20% to BP?
AaaaAAaaaaAAaaaAAAAa
alpine wraith
maybe they buff hunt them down another time
so i can RP my abilities matter
while my autos go BRRRRRRRR
and my ring procs 10 diff effects
hazy breach
Another 20% to BP?
If they do another 20% to BP, its doing more damage than eviscerate on ST btw :^)
haughty mural
Maybe they'll fix the RS bug.
rocky ocean
wish granted, all bugs in ruby sanctum are fixed now
keen dome
Okay that'd be really funny
"We heard you, Rogues. We aren't sure why you were so determined to improve RS but we've gone back and Ruby Sanctum is now flawless"
sick jackal
If they do another 20% to BP, its doing more damage than eviscerate on ST btw :^...
Then we buff bp by another %20 to compensate
ashen ibex
!fuu
wicked joltBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
sick jackal
Make bp cost energy and remove combo points we actually just BP now
Time to get serious
vestal escarp
Hey if they buff bp we can free a keybind
sick jackal
True
sick jackal
you would still need to evis for snd
Nah just buff bp by another %20
keen dome
Man, why can't just be a thing the Ring does in all content. It'd be way funnier.
lilac stag
Why can’t RS get fixed
swift tinsel
Make it cast BP with 20% increased damage
lilac stag
Why can’t we have acro
Why can’t we have a poison toggle
@keen dome you already know the answer, fun detected.
keen dome
Yeah..
It's a cool effect. In 3 seconds you just get everything, blow up the mob and get tons of stats.
swift tinsel
Dev attention, what’s that
keen dome
It's a really fun proc.
swift tinsel
Is ptr this week or next week?
keen dome
Today, right?
spark tusk
Will the launcher be updated to say 11.1 when it's available?
I know sometimes the launcher dropdown is weird
vestal escarp
In 5
alpine wraith
damn lucker
keen dome
Hell yeah, congrats
edgy zenith
better at all target counts above 1 and the difference between ST is like 0.1%
but difference in higher target counts is like 1%+
oh, yeah
more value in DS
I guess
think I just go radiant
I never play DS
actually, might go 1/1
0.6% damage increase in 5 target. a sidegrade in ST
hazy breach
Just go radiant 
keen dome
2x radiant 'cos it's just proc variance anyway
keen dome
Pet that puppy
round latch
he''s all in for pets 24hours a day my man
keen dome
hell yeah
rugged moon
when you get bullied into playing DS
That's not happening is it hachadino
molten citrus
Theres no way ara ara head is -4%
if it's dropping 4set it would
idr if droptimizer considers replacing your non 4set piece with a different tier set piece
vestal escarp
That too yeah
molten citrus
been a long time since i've simmed
but maybe if he simmed tier gloves and a better non tier helm it'd be diff
edgy zenith
yeah, that is probably why. and also socket
fallow nimbus
droptimizer doesn't add 4pc pieces
molten citrus
fallow nimbus
but tier hands+ good stat helm > tier helm
molten citrus
robot says i'm done
robot lied
edgy zenith
science has gone too far
but yeah, it's a 0.4% DPS increase
have tier hands, just need the helm I guess now
grr...
also, do you guys use the 4+ color thing?
with gem sims?
worn ivy
Any good trinket or wep from blackrock deps timewrap ?
vestal escarp
Difficulty?
worn ivy
hc
vestal escarp
No
vestal escarp
Brd doesnt go beyond hc
fallow nimbus
you don't want a sword
twilit phoenix
639 crystal sims higher than a 626 contract
vestal escarp
For sub and assa there no good hc loot
twilit phoenix
real?
vestal escarp
Crystal is very good
twilit phoenix
yeah I usually use it on bloodbound, since contract can't hit the boss
but now it's just simming better in patchwerk
strange chasm
639 contract out sims 639 crystal tho
vestal escarp
Just highroll and proc mast or vers during flag
strange chasm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1YKBKanW2suUfRt8Y3xy9B pretty much bis
twilit phoenix
hot af
molten citrus
for example this sword,
need daggers for sub
molten citrus
oh i didn't see anything saying you were asking about another spec
swift tinsel
the pirates might know