assassination

[spice spire]

Edge of night had sub looking too thicc to begin with

[ebon notch]

@earnest remnant thoughts?

[burnt latch]

Why get bitches when i can smash my bros when they lonely

[spice spire]

AYO?

[gusty mirage]

sub rogues too busy pressing eviscerate which does no damage when their tier set actually procs to do anything else

[bleak sky]

make this man purple name right now

he's too based

[earnest remnant]

sub is love sub is life

[spice spire]

Yo what’s this chat so horny

Ong

[ebon notch]

ur fault

[spice spire]

?????

[peak sandal]

Gm

[hollow river]

I’m going to ambush and mutilate you

[gusty mirage]

bunch of sub and outlaw rogues who ran away from their homes

[spice spire]

How in gods green earth is this my fault?

[gusty mirage]

they come in and hide here

[hollow river]

[peak sandal]

Say it back

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

It back

[hollow river]

It

[bleak sky]

gm

[peak sandal]

Got a fuckin comedian in here huh

[peak sandal]

Ty

[violet jackal]

I did a thing again (Heroic)

[bleak sky]

if you're still in melee mechanics give joons a kiss

[spice spire]

A bad one

[gusty mirage]

yeah he thinks he's funny for some reason

[bleak sky]

and sean

[peak sandal]

How you know me

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

Minalba infamous log watcher

[gusty mirage]

where's my boy @plain thistle

[bleak sky]

no one is safe

[spice spire]

(I created a monster)

[ebon notch]

not locked in huh

brb

[spice spire]

Bro I miss Jhonwei

A homie

[bleak sky]

leave my kin alone

[gusty mirage]

fax

he was like minalba but significantly less angery

[bleak sky]

unfort

[spice spire]

Actually kind of true LMAO

[gusty mirage]

it's okay I still love you more than I love Jhonwei

[bleak sky]

I spend too much time in here, angery levels rose

[gusty mirage]

we're bffs4e

[viscid spear]

If you want rage, try Skyhold.

[spice spire]

No excuses - I’m never angry. Only with myself

[gusty mirage]

we're best friends forever forever

[bleak sky]

that's a lot of forever

[plain thistle]

[gusty mirage]

[peak sandal]

Okay I pinged them

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[peak sandal]

I reckon joons is gonna kill me for interrupting his beauty sleep

[viscid spear]

Well we're best friend fiveever

[gusty mirage]

we miss you jhonwei

come back to us

[plain thistle]

probably next expansion, not sure yet

[gusty mirage]

fair

[peak sandal]

I wish she missed me

[plain thistle]

the new talent system looks nice, hopefully its enough to make me play wow again

[spice spire]

Damn real

That’s what I like to see

But only return to us when you want to play. Don’t make yourself miserable forcing it

That being said DF has me bricked up

[peak sandal]

Dragussy

[viscid spear]

That's what laxatives are for, Quake

[subtle tundra]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[peak sandal]

Red dragonflight gang

[cursive summit]

more talent trees when

[plain thistle]

yeah, I still enjoy raiding, but the chores

[spice spire]

I understand it

I’ve been hard Raid logging recently

Yesterday I logged on unprompted

[peak sandal]

Probably friday

[cursive summit]

Alpha is apparently tomorrow

rumoured*

[peak sandal]

We prob get 2 every Friday then beta the next week

If I wanted to do a log review, would I just create my own thread?

[gusty mirage]

you can just post the log link and I can create the thread for you

[peak sandal]

Depends on how jailer goes tonight

I will be back tonight

[lucid birch]

Pkb…..

[spice spire]

Dsnow..

[peak sandal]

New phone who this

I'm scared

[lucid birch]

[peak sandal]

I don't like when people know me

[lucid birch]

You know me but that’s cool

[spice spire]

Damn

[peak sandal]

I don't know a minalbasap #1 fan

[spice spire]

Mister dsnow really just got wh ‘d

[peak sandal]

Where would I know you

I have horrible memory

[bleak sky]

you know where you'd know him from

[lucid birch]

Yeah but I know of the insert tarragrue boomkin clip

[bleak sky]

you know what you did

[peak sandal]

Oh

Yeah

I had nightmare

Of that

Thanks

[peak sandal]

You know what's better than that

Oh hey man

[lucid birch]

PUT IT AWAY

[peak sandal]

Entire guild in this discord

LMFAO

[spice spire]

Bro

How many fucking members are here rn

[peak sandal]

How's it goin guys

[spice spire]

Actually LMFAO

[peak sandal]

Wait are you in the guild too

[bleak sky]

6-7 give or take

[peak sandal]

@abstract leaf this one better

[spice spire]

No, but I’m familiar with whispyr

[abstract leaf]

I got a clip of me being bayblade'd on painsmith

[bleak sky]

but are you Familiar with Drama?

[spice spire]

I do know their rogue

He’s cute as fuck

And has a good cat

[peak sandal]

Thanks

[peak sandal]

Based

[ebon notch]

same

[peak sandal]

Must be a rogue thing

[balmy condor]

Thanks!

Might’ve done a little format yoinking

[vestal wren]

saw that ^^

[peak sandal]

@balmy condor

[gusty mirage]

all of them

[spice spire]

Nice

[gusty mirage]

@lucid birch tried stealing me away

[subtle tundra]

hi @balmy condor i looked at your spreadsheet and i dont see any ER no seal fate build?

maybe im missing something

[deft flicker]

Seal fate seems to be picked in m+ section

[subtle tundra]

no seal fate build

[toxic locust]

i don't think an ER no seal fate would be worth over subsin

[viscid spear]

ER poopie

[spice spire]

Bad build, sorry king

[thorny pond]

Good morning people

[spice spire]

GM mister beach

[ebon notch]

i just found something

NSFW

this is unedited

@burnt latch thoughts

[bleak sky]

wtf is this

[peak sandal]

Man

[bleak sky]

oh heroic

[peak sandal]

Expose them

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

KILLS LOGGED HUH

[gusty mirage]

that's a lot of boosting

[violet jackal]

more like he really wanted that rank 1

[ebon notch]

here are mine from SOD

for comparison

[lucid birch]

Posting my logs? Wtf

[gusty mirage]

bro go outside

[ebon notch]

i needed gold

:X

[gusty mirage]

and I feel like I played too much

[earnest remnant]

friend of mine

[bleak sky]

0 bitches

grassless

[gusty mirage]

[earnest remnant]

could not imagine doing hc that much ever

[hollow escarp]

there's a guy with 1200+ sire kills

best log still 99

[gusty mirage]

I can't imagine why

in an expansion of external whoring

he didn't get the rank1?

[harsh anchor]

Who was that DH that killed sylv ~700 times

[gusty mirage]

this ret pally is just skilled

[hollow escarp]

there were a few rank 1s with no externals, no?

[ebon notch]

i just saw one with 2500

[ebon notch]

wtf

why you exposing

[gusty mirage]

exposing what

just go to the skolex top rankings

he's right there

[ebon notch]

oh

[gusty mirage]

lol

[ebon notch]

i thought that was from sod

[gusty mirage]

it's not hard to find him

[ebon notch]

yeah my skolex wasnt pretty

[gusty mirage]

he's the only fucking ret pally up there

[spice spire]

This mf cooked

[ebon notch]

its too hot

[gusty mirage]

34 fucking externals

[subtle tundra]

even my monk can do decent dps with 34 externals

[gusty mirage]

who was that dude that came in here and was like FUCK I MISSED R1 JAILER PARSE

[spice spire]

Don’t you ever disrespect folyr like that again

[gusty mirage]

and he had his shit tainted by kindred?

[bleak sky]

I remember in CN I saw a prot pally with 600+ kills on sire

[ebon notch]

bro my jailer parse got tainted by 1.2 seconds of fae

[bleak sky]

and he ran sire everyday on a "AOTC RUN come get it"

[ebon notch]

it still showed as an external

[gusty mirage]

unlucky

[bleak sky]

silly me thought he was helping people

[gusty mirage]

don't get externals bitch

[ebon notch]

i yelled at him after

[bleak sky]

jaded me looks back and thinks "damn that guy was making bank"

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

[bleak sky]

no

[gusty mirage]

he was helping people get aotc

and he was making bank

[spice spire]

Just checked top logs and our boy agreonr absolutely obliterated the jailer

[drifting cloud]

rookie numbers

[gusty mirage]

bro, go outside

wtf

[drifting cloud]

I have 1

you idiot

[gusty mirage]

okay

name calling is uncalled for no matter how true it is

[drifting cloud]

🥺

I havent boosted since mid sod

[gusty mirage]

I miss making gold

made a fat stack in sod

was averaging like 300k a week

[drifting cloud]

anyways got another rygelon dagger in vault, sorry everyone

[gusty mirage]

its okay

I'm going to loot one tonight for sure

[ebon notch]

way ahead of you bud

was a solid 20 dps increase for me

[gusty mirage]

we get it

you're bis

fucking nerd

[ebon notch]

go on oxi

talk about the cos ring

[drifting cloud]

wtf did you have that its only 20

[ebon notch]

GET IT OVER WITH

[ebon notch]

278 lihuvim

the first ryg dagger is like 250

[drifting cloud]

weird, 45 for me over that

[gusty mirage]

[ebon notch]

2nd is 20

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nHBTn9sN1q3ZzFHZ6Nsorp

[bleak sky]

not even 17k

[subtle tundra]

factual

[spice spire]

Mastery gems

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rfCbSzdfHysw22uZHSPXvt

[spice spire]

We truly live in a society

[gusty mirage]

mine is telling me to gem mastery

and I hate this timeline because of it

[drifting cloud]

why did you catalyst the boots

SUS

[gusty mirage]

because he's a nerd

[spice spire]

It’s the oshosi prophecy

[gusty mirage]

no it's the dogshit 4pc at work

[digital gyro]

Does Serrated Bone Spike have longer GCD than other abilities or is it just placebo? feels a bit longer

[spice spire]

You can keep your statistics, I prefer the magic

[digital gyro]

or is it just the anim XD

[gusty mirage]

it's the animation

[bleak sky]

and that's with the old apl

[digital gyro]

thanks!

[gusty mirage]

is it?

[gusty mirage]

you calling koji a liar?

[bleak sky]

[ebon notch]

OK

[drifting cloud]

its an old sim

[ebon notch]

TIME TO RESIM

[gusty mirage]

this guy sends a sim from 3 days ago

like we care

change name to loserogue already

[drifting cloud]

damn 272 to 278 phial is actually 90 dps

wtf

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1bS4FqyAK1FFkEKjL8LnN2

[gusty mirage]

Bozorogue

[ebon notch]

WTF

[spice spire]

It’s done @ebon notch

[gusty mirage]

LMAO

[drifting cloud]

wait did you catalyst boots so theyre better for outlaw

[bleak sky]

bro this sim is cracked

[drifting cloud]

you monster

[ebon notch]

yes

i went all in

[gusty mirage]

should I tell him to leave our channel?

bro

[ebon notch]

didnt affect my assa sim too much

[gusty mirage]

just go to #outlaw we don't want you here anymore

[spice spire]

Sub 17k assa sim at 282

[bleak sky]

ringless

[spice spire]

Maidenless

[gusty mirage]

I hope you get called a baboon

[ebon notch]

😦

[spice spire]

Oxi on one today, Damn

[empty hinge]

imagine simming over 17k

[gusty mirage]

all I'm saying

[empty hinge]

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dKY3d7zsA7cFMXWvpG2Qri

idk

i fucked this sim somehow

should be higher

[gusty mirage]

yeah by playing guardian ring over cos ring

unlucky

[cursive summit]

when is next legion m+?

[gusty mirage]

sim assa as nadjia @ebon notch

[ebon notch]

i did

[gusty mirage]

august 16th I think

[cursive summit]

the day my son is born, rip

[gusty mirage]

https://www.wowhead.com/event=1263/timewalking-dungeon-event

[cursive summit]

i

[cursive summit]

I'll miss that week haha

[gusty mirage]

today I learned that this feature exists on wowhead

neat

[drifting cloud]

omg its actually early next season end me

[gusty mirage]

it's a meme season

who gives a fuck

[bleak sky]

playing S4

[drifting cloud]

every season is a meme season

TBH

[gusty mirage]

true

honestly based

[bleak sky]

getting rank 1 m+ season 4

imagine

[gusty mirage]

and not getting a title

[bleak sky]

1400 io is gonna be enough

[gusty mirage]

imagine

[drifting cloud]

is it confirmed theres no title?

[gusty mirage]

idk I just assumed there wouldn't be one cuz no CE

[drifting cloud]

theres a new mount so I dunno

[gusty mirage]

but then again there's going to be a gladiator

so

[ebon notch]

its ok half my guild say they will trade me ring

its the other half that i have to be worried about

[gusty mirage]

so did mine

until a DH came along for ONE run got it and dipped

[ebon notch]

wait

ur stealing my lore

[gusty mirage]

homie

[ebon notch]

thats what happened to me

[gusty mirage]

I lived your lore

[ebon notch]

he literally said

"if it drops for someone else ill pass, if it drops for me ill keep"

so now when any loot discussion happens

someone quotes this

and i lose my shit

[lucid birch]

But you’re playing s4 with me

[drifting cloud]

my friend lost rolls against caster pugs

[bleak sky]

am I?

[drifting cloud]

did 80 runs, didnt get ring, good times all around

[ember mural]

Mentally ill rogues

[ebon notch]

ur here

ur included

[gusty mirage]

check DMs

[ember mural]

[ebon notch]

HAHAHA

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire need the screenshot

[ebon notch]

the sad part is i saw 2 other ones

with my guildies in the group

and i let them get rolled out

cause i was like

"its ok ill get it eventually"

went to a DH and fury warrior

[gusty mirage]

never forget

the day I slew a fire mage

[subtle tundra]

just get the ring in 3 runs, thats what i did this season

[bleak sky]

get ring in 3 runs
quit rogue
refuse to elaborate

[ebon notch]

its too hot

ive swapped to a tank top

and sunglasses

this is my raid setup

[bleak sky]

selfie time? onlyfans?

[spice spire]

Ur too hot

[ebon notch]

xoxo

[kindred rapids]

Here's an idea: combine the effect of feint with mfd

Less buttons = streamlined

[bleak sky]

[kindred rapids]

That's accessibility baby

[gusty mirage]

[lucid birch]

[winged basin]

Today, I decided to see what my favorite rogue boys are up to, and I’m met with this.

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tired-sleep-nap-yawn-gif-3552811

[glossy jewel]

i remember reading about garrote/rupture/ct WAs which include the "new" venthyr logic within vendetta basically reminding you to refresh them in time. can someone knowing what im talking about it link them to me?

[bleak sky]

https://wago.io/rk2kEs76d

[glossy jewel]

tyvm

[burnt ember]

Can anyone simplify the assassination (with CT) AOE rotation for my dumb brain?

I'm just getting back to rogue after a long break

Single target makes perfect sense but FoK to build and spreading rupture and garrote while keeping CT up feels VERY awkward

[bleak sky]

That's really it

[burnt ember]

Okay so it's just awkward then, lol

Fair enough

tyty

[limber lion]

CT does the bulk of your damage, so just focus on keeping it up at all times. You'll be at energy saturation very early into the pull with 3-4 garrotes and a rupture

Slam that CT

[gusty mirage]

hey woah, you should be a green name or somethin

[burnt ember]

@limber lion That is very helpful

[slow marsh]

mr meme holder

I got one for you guys

The forbidden one

[spice spire]

God bless

[slow marsh]

Our mans was down bad back then

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[ebon notch]

wtf

@gusty mirage can u change my name back

im not a fan of this

[gusty mirage]

done

[ebon notch]

ty

[spice spire]

God bless

[limber lion]

Yeaaaaaah no

Sounds very scary I could never

[gusty mirage]

idk man

I think you could probably look at an angle for a tier set that no one was excited about and make it really good

[slow marsh]

Cev prolly enjoys being a sigma normie sin main than a green name

[spice spire]

Mfer a sergeant and worried about being a CF

Smh my head

[gusty mirage]

if me and quake can be green

anyone can

[limber lion]

So many valid points ya'll are on fire today

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Well it is like 100 degrees outside so yeah, pretty much on fire

[limber lion]

I can't kee up on my phone

Ggs

[gusty mirage]

you don't need to keep up, you're already the most handsome rogue EU

[slow marsh]

So should we start calling him Sarge then or what

[limber lion]

What if I told you I quit rogue

And I'm now a feral main

[bleak sky]

that's just a rogue

°

[slow marsh]

That wouldn't surprise me

[spice spire]

Bro ain’t no way

[slow marsh]

Just like me unsubbing didn't surprise anyone

[gusty mirage]

good choice

[subtle tundra]

thats my nickname in the guild

[spice spire]

But yeah, sergeant Ceverion or sarge now

[subtle tundra]

wtf

WTF

[bleak sky]

are you in the military varas?

[slow marsh]

You forgot the e

[subtle tundra]

its a season 1 reference :(((((

[slow marsh]

So it's like Sarhhhhhhg

[limber lion]

Varas is a child

[subtle tundra]

when we did guild rbgs

[spice spire]

Wait is varas an actual child? When I say child I mean circa 20

[subtle tundra]

im literally older than people that are 18 yr

[gusty mirage]

so 18.5?

[bleak sky]

yes

[spice spire]

That answers it

[limber lion]

Just tune into his stream once in a while

[kindred rapids]

oof

[subtle tundra]

wow

wow wow wow

[gusty mirage]

only EU rogues I watch are Ceverion, Seliathan, and Ramfam

[slow marsh]

Will it be like the time I tuned into Skip's stream ?

[subtle tundra]

ok

[gusty mirage]

used to include Tisu but he's NA now

[bleak sky]

no no

[kindred rapids]

this is a dad channel

[limber lion]

Based

[kindred rapids]

dad gamers only

[bleak sky]

varas has the EU humor iceblades

[subtle tundra]

sorry zoomers like me arent enough for you

"only" 20

omg

[limber lion]

Oh you're more than enough

Sometimes you're a bit too much even

[slow marsh]

You're right EU zoomers are like + 7 years older than they actually are

[limber lion]

But aren't we all

Uwu

[bleak sky]

quake is never too much

he's just the perfect amount

[spice spire]

That’s a DAMN lie

[bleak sky]

call me? 🤙🏻

[spice spire]

You haven’t even seen my demonic phases

[limber lion]

His voice is too much to handle

[gusty mirage]

kindly throw your computer out of the window ty

[bleak sky]

all the rogues got good voices

quake cev guy

I see a pattern

[gusty mirage]

wow

okay

[spice spire]

Damn

Literally just told oxi to fuck himself ig

[slow marsh]

Oxi has best voice tbh

[gusty mirage]

I modded this snake in my stream too

[bleak sky]

he doesn't want to give me a visa

[subtle tundra]

y'all discriminatory

[bleak sky]

so I had to ditch oxi

unlucky

[spice spire]

Mfs gonna watch me for asmr content

I also didn’t know varas streamed

I saw a yt video of him once

[bleak sky]

varas streams good content

[spice spire]

On like season 1 of or some shit

[bleak sky]

he streams his healer malding with his warlock that's also malding

[slow marsh]

I am scared to tune into streams these days if i'm being honest

[subtle tundra]

i only stream when i push

probably stream tomorrow ;3

[spice spire]

Why tho?

[slow marsh]

Cuz then i'll want to play again

[spice spire]

Ping me, if I can watch, I’ll gladly

Wait until DF

legitimately

Hopium

[slow marsh]

Yeah

My hopium light is blinking back to life

[subtle tundra]

i shall pump those assa DF keys

[spice spire]

Also desk coming in this week so soon we can play some children’s card games

[slow marsh]

I just don't know how I can make time is the ultimate issue

[spice spire]

Just sleep less

[slow marsh]

If I could just play whenever tf I wanted it wouldn't be an issue

[spice spire]

Hello?

[bleak sky]

i'll pump harder

[slow marsh]

Keys actually look fun with the new sin talents tho ngl

[brave gyro]

idk if this is "best" but this something im looking at for M+, seems fun

could also drop execute and go for more poison bomb and whatnot

[bleak sky]

looks not great

[subtle tundra]

drop zoldyck and get middle row

[brave gyro]

whats wrong, im open to feedback

[burnt ember]

Okay one last question, are we building up to 5 CP before applying bleeds by default or are we doing the normal 4-5 CP thing?

[subtle tundra]

max-1

[burnt ember]

Aight epic

[bleak sky]

Vigor doesn't do much, dragon-tempered blades is too strong not to get, idk if I would spend a point for iron wire

dance is also insane as is

[slow marsh]

esp in keys i'd imagine

[brave gyro]

on aoe?

[bleak sky]

on everything

[subtle tundra]

yes, its omegapogger

[brave gyro]

i guess garroting everything

[subtle tundra]

no

[bleak sky]

garroting everyting?

[subtle tundra]

it gives the effect of stealth effects buddy

so its omega broken

[bleak sky]

dance gives you nightstalker, master assassin

bonkers

[brave gyro]

yeah i get that, i just don't understand why garrote is weird to say

[spice spire]

NS GIGA spread ruptured

[bleak sky]

dance doesn't give you subterfuge

[subtle tundra]

im not gonna say cause its an argument against my no seal fate er build

[spice spire]

You rn

[brave gyro]

okay? we can still use it in dance tho, im not getting what you are saying

[bleak sky]

that's me

I forgor 💀 it applies during stealth not after breaking it

[brave gyro]

xD

[bleak sky]

point is: dance is kinda nutty

[brave gyro]

well, at least we sorted the misunderstanding

yeah, i didnt even consider the mass silence on demand

6s as well

ok, so something like this?

and potentially getting rid of seal fate /leeching into alacrity or smth

i didnt get poisoned katar i just saw

[bleak sky]

seal of fate good

[royal lantern]

leeching poison beeing a "mandatory" talent is stupid tbh

instead of something that actually enhances gameplay

it should be a sidenode

[brave gyro]

at least its a passive, not an additional poison

[royal lantern]

yeha but leech is ussules almost always

the ammount of times where actually does something except for questing, can be counted with 1 hand lol

[brave gyro]

idk, 12% leech can be pretty useful in certain situations, especially in M+

[bleak sky]

eh

[royal lantern]

not really

[bleak sky]

can't recall a single moment in M+ that I was thinking "damn leech would be nice here"

[royal lantern]

^

like

[bleak sky]

or raid

[royal lantern]

if you take dmg

you need a healer heal

and not "yeha but in 20-30seconds i can slowly bring myself up to full hp!!!!"

in wow, you take dmg and need to be healed FAST

cus the 2nd dmg that will come will probably kill you

you wont skip healing mechanics cus of leech

[bleak sky]

preventing damage is much better than dealing with it after

[royal lantern]

and wont help the healer with it aswell, cus they heal anyway

[odd heath]

Leeching poison was good on Zaqul

Only fight I remember it being useful

[royal lantern]

there are a couple of exceptions where it was "good"

but "good"means "CD/elusivness do nothing here"

jaina was a fight like that aswell

all dmg was dot based, cd didnt help, elusivness aswell, so you could take leeching poison cus it atleast did SOMETHING lol

[tired falcon]

For the hps parse

[royal lantern]

leeching+veil on cd

and reroll vuplera for racial heal on cd aswell

get that 100 healing parse and flex on the haters

[strange python]

[royal lantern]

dunno if vulpera or zandalari would be more racial healing

low cd healing potion vs slow full hp heal that breaks on dmg taken

[royal lantern]

sorry, i forgot

only generic fuck elves alowed

[strange python]

oh wow...that's mean

[ebon notch]

OK BOYS

WE DID IT

FULL BIS

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

[drifting cloud]

272 phial not bis sir

halondrus trinket better

[ebon notch]

havent killed halondrus in over 2 weeks

this week maybe

[royal lantern]

gz

[spice spire]

Pushing the furry propaganda Smdh

[spice spire]

Greetings and salutations, fotmrogue. It seems you’ve claimed full bis, but I don’t see a jeweled signet of melandrus. If you could please place that on, I’d love to recognize you as full bis

Ty

[royal lantern]

vulpera tank on ilgynoth during nyalotha

who needs deffensives when your racials lets you take 0 dmg

[ebon notch]

sry

[kindred rapids]

wtf

[slow marsh]

you forgot 278 phial

[spice spire]

Also true

Damn

[slow marsh]

also 272 wrists

damn

[spice spire]

Daps not even a 278 phial LMFAO?!

[slow marsh]

@ebon notch got a lot of work to do for bis still

[limber lion]

9 285 items

[ebon notch]

😦

ive never had this much gear before

[limber lion]

Guild spooning

[ebon notch]

i never get spooned

[limber lion]

Flame you for everything but secretly loves you

[midnight mist]

this will be easy rank 1 with every spec with this much gear right @ebon notch ?

[limber lion]

Suuuure

[ebon notch]

i almost got rank 1 ryg

but i went dry at the end

[limber lion]

Like you didn't get spooned the nwck or the belt

[ebon notch]

i won the roll on the neck

[limber lion]

I wouldn't know

[ebon notch]

everyone could roll on it :S

[limber lion]

That's what people tell me

[kindred rapids]

look at this garbage

everything important but weapons

just start season 4 already

so I can buy EoN

[gusty mirage]

wtb tauren rogue already

[balmy condor]

you're sick in the head

and in bed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-akl4PiNA

[bleak sky]

o

[copper hazel]

i panicked that it was an infexiousgaming video then, was lining up a WTFF

[bleak sky]

who are they bringing for outlaw

[cold dove]

i wanna be one too

[balmy condor]

koji and guy

[bleak sky]

guy and zac? guy and koji?:

oh

[obtuse robin]

[ebon notch]

i had rank 2

but a russian logged his rank 2 between pulls

[gusty mirage]

let me have this

[spice spire]

Zac is newer to this space afaik

He’s here

[bleak sky]

I like zac tho

[spice spire]

[bleak sky]

he seems smartge

[midnight mist]

im new and there is a lot of more qualified person to talk about that than me

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

I do as well, he’s a lovely lad

[midnight mist]

I started playing in sl

[gusty mirage]

so?

[spice spire]

Experience is important but not the whole picture

[midnight mist]

dont know all the cool stuff u guys had in like legion and bfa

[bleak sky]

I mean sure koji is a powerhouse

but you're good my man

[midnight mist]

I think its important for talking about trees

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

I've been playing since @ebon notch was swimming in his daddy's balls and you're def smarter than me

[spice spire]

You’re doing great stuff, papi. Don’t ever discount that

And that’s fair

[gusty mirage]

clear out the boomers

(including me, someone put me out of my misery)

[midnight mist]

im also never hopin into voice lol

[bleak sky]

[ebon notch]

unnecessary but ok

[gusty mirage]

get off my lawn kid

[spice spire]

Same, people think I’m from Texas when I do

[gusty mirage]

?????????

[bleak sky]

howdy partner

[spice spire]

Ask mister warcieft and daps

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

minalba

do I become a diaper baby

[spice spire]

“You sound like you’re from Texas”

[midnight mist]

my english isnt that good, I wouldnt feel confortable in voice

[spice spire]

NO

[bleak sky]

what the fuck did you just ask?

[gusty mirage]

BUT 52 DPS BRO

[bleak sky]

oh mechagnome

no become night elf and embrace outlaw

[gusty mirage]

fuck outlaw

and fuck you

don't ever say those words to me again

[bleak sky]

fair, if you're not comfy you're not comfy

[midnight mist]

??

[gusty mirage]

I said what I said

[spice spire]

That’s understandable, you write it well at least!
But I can read Spanish, synthesizing words on the fly is incredibly hard though

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

yellow name (derogatory)

[velvet ridge]

Nice vid

[weak crescent]

How do you guys think assa tree looks ?

[bleak sky]

fantastic

[weak crescent]

I m looking forwards to it haha

Hope its really good st

[ebon notch]

wait

who changed myh name again

@gusty mirage @spice spire

[spice spire]

I did not

This time*

[royal lantern]

its a scam, doesnt look like a tree

no leaves

no trunk

its just lines with some talents, smh, and they call it a tree

[weak crescent]

Oh true

I never noticedv

[gusty mirage]

I did

[viscid spear]

More like a bush
Busch League, even

[slow marsh]

plot twist - it was me

[viscid spear]

Let's be honest: if you had the power to do that we'd all know

[slow marsh]

not necessarily true

i only just got back in here like yesterday

[coral sierra]

how much does having mythic sylvanas daggers push over just having max level daggers? I want to be a rogue. 😦

[strange python]

Have you tried simming it?

[bleak sky]

for assassination?

regular high ilvl daggers are better (:

[coral sierra]

no

[coral sierra]

thanks for your informative answer

[bleak sky]

(unless you're asking about season 4)

[coral sierra]

Prepping for S4 I guess, Can't decide between sticking with MM or going rogue!

Rogue is currently a baby at 240

[bleak sky]

having access to 311 sylv daggers makes them very very desirable

[coral sierra]

That is through the vendor? or RNG for it to drop?

[bleak sky]

both

[coral sierra]

Oh ok, thank you!

[ebon notch]

@spice spire @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

Gross

[spice spire]

You can’t stop getting away with this

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4HwnZ5ph4gYJgFiAtKe8iq

[gusty mirage]

#outlaw here you go @ebon notch

The yellow names need a new king now that James has abandoned them

Go get em tiger

[pulsar apex]

heya. levelling here. i have weak auras shouting at me about shiv. but atm its just off poison application. does it become more rotationally important later?

[bleak sky]

all this gear and not a single rank 1, unlucky

[bleak sky]

yes, shiv becomes a pretty big deal

[gusty mirage]

Once you unlock shiv rank 2, it amplifies the damage of your poisons and envenom. And then when you get the tier set it cranks the damage of poisons and bleeds with the 2 piece bonus

[ebon notch]

ik

i was so close today

[gusty mirage]

Until then you can just largely ignore it

[pulsar apex]

aha ok ty. so it has to have a pretty important and accessable bind

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it’s a pivotal part of the rotation later on

[pulsar apex]

gotcha

[gusty mirage]

And if you have any other questions while leveling/gearing later on, feel free to just drop em in here

[pulsar apex]

perfet

[gusty mirage]

We got a bunch of helpful folks always lurking

[ebon notch]

are you gabe newell from steam

[pulsar apex]

im trying to work out where i want to land at 50/60. which spec i mean

[coral sierra]

Can you get away with Zold or Doomblade leg instead of duskwalker? Ring leg prices on AH so expensive

[gusty mirage]

Yeah just try to get a feel for all 3 and see which you enjoy more

[gusty mirage]

With 4pc you’d be inting your damage by playing something other than Dusk. Until you get 4pc you can get away with just crafting a low level doomblade until you get the 4pc

[ebon notch]

just remember that the specs will feel different when you get gear and max level

so dont feel locked into one

there are lots of overlapping covenants as well

[pulsar apex]

im switching a lot. my 2c so far:
Sin seems... slow.... but maybe in a good way
Law there is a lot going on in a pirate vibe and just trying to keep up with the spec seems fun in of itself.
Sub seems to be a spec designed by people playing the game for 17 years.

[gusty mirage]

Yeah sin is super slow, the tier set helps speed things up a bit. But there’s going to be times where you’re just chilling waiting for energy

[pulsar apex]

but that can be a good thing

[gusty mirage]

Yeah in turn it becomes a much more forgiving rotation

[bleak sky]

I've no idea when sin picks up on leveling but good god it's bad

[pulsar apex]

i feel like if i was learing a tough boss i would want to be sin

[bleak sky]

It's legitimately a bad leveling experience

[gusty mirage]

Late 40s/early 50s I believe?

Doesn’t get venemous wounds until like 46 or some shit because someone at blizzard thought that’d be a great idea

[pulsar apex]

Outlaw was super clunky until the energy passives arrived

[ebon notch]

all the specs have some sort of downtime

so dont be surprised by that

[gusty mirage]

Yep, the passives make or break the flow of the specs and having them not be super early in leveling is jank af

Outlaw without restless blades & combat potency must feel like absolute shit lol

[pulsar apex]

yeah the spec made no sense for about 8 levels

[bleak sky]

I think sub is the least bad leveling experience

maybe

they're all bad though

[gusty mirage]

Still kinda bad without shtech but not as bad as the other 2

[pulsar apex]

tbh it was fun swapping around

understanding what was important; stealth, opening, energy, finishing

etc

they all seemed equally important to the outside observer

[burnt latch]

boys

[bleak sky]

yes

[burnt latch]

another raid night without monk buff or wf totem

[bleak sky]

[burnt latch]

suicide watch is on

[bleak sky]

why even play the game

why

[burnt latch]

ikr dude

if u give me those two juicer buffs

[ebon notch]

change ur raid days and i come

[burnt latch]

nobody will stand a chance

fotmshaman the finnish blaster

give me wf + monk buff and rygelon wont spawn in s4 he gets so blasted

[ebon notch]

blasting wtf

i fuckin hate it every time i get into p3 rygelon i go dry

[burnt latch]

its a very sadge angle without monk buff tho

wf is kinda w/e

[dark token]

I will say as a sin m+ enthusiast it was completely unplayable on raging weeks due to having to hold shiv for sooth. Was forced to switch specs

[burnt latch]

monk buff is a decent chunk of dam tho

[ebon notch]

tru

[dark token]

Maybe tiny toxic blade should be "reduce shiv cooldown by 500%"

[ebon notch]

look at this

[bleak sky]

you're barely 24h late to the convo

[marble hemlock]

How about "remove shiv"

[dark token]

Oh I misread the day

Lmao

[burnt latch]

whats this

[ebon notch]

[ebon notch]

CB procs

i go dry for over 1.2 mins

[burnt latch]

dont play a spec thats reliant on rng

or a build rahter

rather

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w1Nw2fKsRKVk2jWyskaquP

so far behind outlaw

[burnt latch]

u sim more as assa than i do as outlaw

unlucko

[echo geyser]

time to catalyst belt for outlaw all in maybe

[ebon notch]

its a loss

[echo geyser]

ur neck

[ebon notch]

wat

[echo geyser]

big crit

[ebon notch]

love that neck

[coral sierra]

is there a website that shows what spec is best for each raid boss?

or most played

[burnt latch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/

[coral sierra]

thanks!

[slow forge]

Hey lads how is sin looking for s4?

[obtuse robin]

good

[slow forge]

Im currently on this outlaw hype but i hope to get back to sin in + soon

[strange python]

sin in m+?

I'd love to see someone good play it in a high key

like a streamer

[bleak sky]

those are all gone

varas plays sometimes for fun, but that's rare

[strange python]

I mean I can't keep up with warlock or even dk's as sub - i know i'm a good bit behind sub as sin

[bleak sky]

well makes sense right

fdk aoe is huge

[strange python]

I ran sin up to like 20's but i just feel like a hindrance above that

[bleak sky]

felt fine on keys a bit higher

at some point sin felt like shit to me, but could just be a skill issue

[slow forge]

i mean ur there for 1 job and its cc and to giga target prio adds

and bosses ur aoe will never compete

and ur overall will never be near the lock ww or surv

[tawdry dust]

but whats even the point of "giga target". Sub does less funnel dmg then warlock, or other classes. Assa can argue with boss dmg, but here also why should u bring ass into a m+ only for bosses? when u can get a firemage, outlaw etc. who did the same + aoe xD

Assa is and will stay dead in m+ for season 4, but in dragonflight oh boy it could be different

[burnt latch]

if youre min maxing you shouldnt

just dont take rogue

but u dont need to do that unless youre doing very high keys

and enjoy playing rogue over surv / monk

[tawdry dust]

this statement is kinda wrong, if my highest key is an 5,10,15,20 or anything else and i struggle with the next key lvl, i can improve myself (long run) or i can invite a warlock and a sv hunter with no arms and its "kinda" free :P. Basicly your "very high" keys is subjective
I have seen so many wls who are just carryd by class its insane

[bleak sky]

hard to argue if you just lower the bar like that

[tawdry dust]

yeah i know but most of the playerbase don t play good enough or even close to the level of "insert mdi team".

[burnt latch]

well u just repeated what i said back to me

I said u dont NEED to do that, but if u want to min max u dont bring a rogue

but if u enjoy playing rogue more and not doing cutting edge keys, play assa

[tawdry dust]

We are on the same page. I just want to clarify the definition of very high keys

[burnt latch]

well yeah I guess it works like that on every key bracket, but to time a 31 key u NEED the dps from these big specs

to time a +15 key (if thats your highest for example) u dont need the dps, its more likely depleted on missed kicks or failed mechanics

so u dont NEED to swap to a different spec to time it, sure it might get easier if u have damage but if u dont learn that fundemental aspect of the key, theres only so far u can go with pure damage untill u run into the exact same issue

[ebon notch]

YOU TELL EM 'CIEFT

[burnt latch]

[oak sky]

thoughts on ttb?

[ebon notch]

what

[burnt latch]

Tiny Thunder Bluss?

its pretty good for outlaw

[gusty mirage]

Tiny Thunder Bluff

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

pocket toy that turns everyone into a tauren around you

[bleak sky]

i got a pocket toy

[burnt latch]

no thats TTTB

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

show me

[bleak sky]

no

[gusty mirage]

[burnt latch]

Traditional Tiny Thunder Bluff

[gusty mirage]

TRU

[burnt latch]

Tiny Thunder Bluff is the podcast

[gusty mirage]

[burnt latch]

[copper sun]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6D2GxmMAF1zpQvLk/#fight=43&type=damage-done&source=1134 Can someone tell me what im doing wrong here?

[lucid birch]

It’s me

[copper sun]

I feel like im playing my rotation correctly but I can't really figure out why my parse is so low at that point

[burnt latch]

your garrote and rupture uptimes are a bit low

and CT could be a bit higher too

[crimson abyss]

u sync vendetta with flag so always use like flag finisher mfd finisher vendeta ... u use second vendetta 4 sec before flag and third one 10 sec before the first opener was fine

[copper sun]

Whats the reason for 4s and 10s before?

[burnt latch]

u tell us

[crimson abyss]

ye 😄

u shouldnt do that

[copper sun]

Ohhh right

Idk a friend told me to just send it

[burnt latch]

yeah your friend isnt very up to date then

thats a big dps loss

[drifting cloud]

dont listen to clueless friends I guess

[crimson abyss]

yep here is a screenshot from assa faq

[drifting cloud]

sync is the only reason venthyr is bis, otherwise you might aswell play nf

[copper sun]

Should I be pressing envenom more? The top assassination log on jailer has way more envenom casts and is also playing Nadja

[burnt latch]

you seem to be finishing on correct amount of combo points tho and doing like "the basics" decently well, just make sure u do your flag + vendetta windows correctly and keep rupture, CT and garrote up on the target more

[copper sun]

Thank you so much guys

[crimson abyss]

you use envenom to extend snd and nadja is better on jailer i think

[drifting cloud]

umbrella proc from theotar is a huge dps loss if you cant stand in it

sims assume 100% uptime

[burnt latch]

you held your 2nd shiv for 45 seconds

3rd*

[copper sun]

Is there anything special I need to do with Vanish?

[burnt latch]

just send them on CD unless Flag + vendetta is about to be ready

as long as u dont miss shiv in vendetta window just send shiv on cd

[burnt latch]

vanish after a finisher so u can muti -> finisher -> muti

[copper sun]

Is Vanish always in shiv window?

[copper sun]

Should the finisher be envenom or can it be Rupture/CT?

[burnt latch]

ideally yes, ud envenom as the finisher but with how the build works atm I dont think it matters too much, if u CAN envenom there its fine but do not prio it over keeping rupture or CT up

probably best to just not think about it and send it on CD with vendetta

to not desync too much

[copper sun]

Ahhh man I love the Rogue discord, everyone is so helpful

Tomorrow should be a better raid then, thank you so much

[burnt latch]

gl with raid!

[copper sun]

Ty ❤️

One last thing, does playstyle differ between Theotar and Nadja?

[balmy condor]

no

[copper sun]

Perfect

[balmy condor]

both of them are completely passive effects that do not change your rotation

[copper sun]

@balmy condor since you're here, do you think sub got cucked in the new talent trees compared to outlaw/sin?

[balmy condor]

idk if I'd say cucked

but it's probably the one that needs the most help

[copper sun]

It just feels so lackluster compared to the other two, both sin and outlaw are getting so much cool shit, like having shadowdance, shadowstep, and cool raid buffs

Kinda feels like sub doesnt really have an identity if both other specs are getting those things

[spice spire]

We’re on week one of knowing the trees, with plenty of feedback given, and plenty of changes coming, I’m sure.

No need to doom yet

[copper sun]

Very true

[oak sky]

from what ive heard realz has been informed of all the issues people have with the sub tree so it should be fine

[spice spire]

Yeah but realz can’t save you from having no bitches

[oak sky]

i know

[spice spire]

[ebon notch]

maybe if you stopped spending so much time telling other people they had no bitches

youd have bitches of your own

[spice spire]

Mfer I’m engaged

[ebon notch]

negative

biatches

[spice spire]

Negative bitches? Bet ur dms dry as the Sahara rn

Ong

[ebon notch]

i have gf

i actively drive away bitches

[spice spire]

[ebon notch]

thats a good emote

[spice spire]

I’ve seen how much you raid, ain’t no way you’re pulling with that time investment

Right?

[burnt latch]

imagine wanting bitches lol

[ebon notch]

i only raid 2 days

[burnt latch]

males loving males is the vibe 2022

[ebon notch]

[oak sky]

L take

[ebon notch]

how would you know

maidenless