assassination

[gusty mirage]

kite what

[viscid spear]

If I were a Spiteful Shade and someone was swinging swollen phalluses at me, I'd kill myself too

[timid cloud]

Yeah, you're right, with my leeching poison.

[ebon notch]

@gusty mirage i found the bis weakaura

https://wago.io/7XH_PJdby

[gusty mirage]

fuck yeah

still waiting for papa ion to bless me with another 278

[oak sky]

Shouldnt the WA say swap trinket?

[bold drum]

ik its still some time till season 4 but any season 4 things outside of 2 eons that might be worth considering? asking bc i have eye of command simming pretty decent for my assa just dk about its viability

[gusty mirage]

either dreadfire vessel or guardian trinket

if I had to guess

or even xymox trinket

axe is kinda busted

dfv would be higher ilvl

so I'm leaning toward that

[bold drum]

dfv and crab trink seem like an unbeatable duo on sub from what i simmed but cache and guardian trink are also decent on both

[gusty mirage]

yeah the tricky part is deciding which of those trinkets to pick

cuz they're all pretty damn good

It really comes down to how much better the on use is vs the extra agi we'd get from dfv

we could always yell at @vestal wren to sim them at the higher ilvl for a comparison

I might do it out of boredom

[bold drum]

ive simmed them all at 311 and 304 respectively

but only with my rogue and not the t28 baseline

[vestal wren]

its 0:35 am, i won't run sims now ^^

[gusty mirage]

fair enough

[gusty mirage]

I'd imagine your rogue's not too far off the t28 baseline at this point in the tier

[vestal wren]

but i don't think simulations on high item level are good before creating profiles for 311

[gusty mirage]

maybe I tinker with that while figuring out wtf I'm going to do with my time this weekend

could be useful

[vestal wren]

e.g. just one example, cache works well with multiple stats, and having more of them could impact its value

[ebon notch]

what i heard is that guardian trinket was only good due to our high crit chance in SOD?

[gusty mirage]

that'd be weird because guardian trinket was better for venthyr sub than kyr sub

because of the haste

[ebon notch]

it was also bis for assa and we ran low haste no?

[gusty mirage]

we didn't exactly run low haste

• we had alacrity

[oak sky]

Ocular gland+ sigil inc

[gusty mirage]

• flag haste

[ebon notch]

L + ratio

[bold drum]

assa played either vaulty or guardian

[ebon notch]

but yeah fair enough

[gusty mirage]

yeah faulty ended up taking over because of the frost shards

cuz it had crit vs agi

[oak sky]

Fcm and fusion amp are just good bro

[bleak sky]

god no

stop this

[gusty mirage]

elegy just a shittier gland

change my mind

[bold drum]

i also have sludgefist trink simming not too bad

[bleak sky]

true

[oak sky]

I would bet money on gland minalba

[gusty mirage]

secondaries tend to mean less later on in expacs

so idk how much you're willing to bet

like we have an obscene amount of secondary stats rn

and it's about to jump up another 26 ilvl

[oak sky]

Its the best passive trinky

Innit

[bleak sky]

I don't know anything about the old dungeon trinkets but for sod/cn I'd guess amp/dreadfirevessel/gland

311 dreadfire vessel

[gusty mirage]

yeah 311 dreadfire would be juicy

[bleak sky]

gonna nut HARD

[oak sky]

We love a non syncy trinky

[bold drum]

for sub its def 311 dfv cant get anything to sim higher but sim vs actuality is a diff story

[bleak sky]

cache at 304 is also gonna be nice

[vestal wren]

311, 307 and 298 are the 3 new item levels

[oak sky]

Do we get a leggo upgrade?

[vestal wren]

i assume so

[bleak sky]

probabbly yea

[oak sky]

Yikes

[gusty mirage]

I mean assuming they don't tweak the damage on it, 311 does 33k? base w/o crit

kinda juicy

[bold drum]

311, 304 and 297

from what i found out

[bold drum]

33k without crit on a 1.5 is crazy

[gusty mirage]

yeah

it'd be interesting to see if they end up tweaking it or not

I'm leaning toward yeah

304 amp ain't nothing to look over either

extra 3900 dam w/ auto attacks is insanely good

[oak sky]

oh amp isnt 311

[gusty mirage]

correct

it comes off guardian not KT or sylv

[oak sky]

dfv looking saucy

[bold drum]

[oak sky]

yeah wasnt even thinking about it

that agi be lookin meaningful

[gusty mirage]

but if the numbers & ilvl scaling on them stays the same

dfv should blow every other trinket away

[ebon notch]

bro shriekwing trinket

fucking banged

[gusty mirage]

yep

esp when it targeted a warlock gate

HUGE

[ebon notch]

wat

[gusty mirage]

yes it could target warlock gates

[ebon notch]

sludgefist was hilarious also

lmaoooo

[gusty mirage]

fuck that trinket

dogshit ass trinket that didn't work half the time unless you ran out of melee

[bleak sky]

wut

sludgefist chains?

[ebon notch]

no

shriek trinket

you had to like

wiggle with it

[bleak sky]

ohyea it was jjanky for sure

[ebon notch]

so that it would actually trigger

[gusty mirage]

start running laps around dungeons waiting for it to work

[ebon notch]

inb4 it flurries

as outlaw

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

bro nothing flurries as outlaw

[bleak sky]

stop it im wet

kill me

[bold drum]

also this sounds decent enough on a few bosses

[gusty mirage]

that's just the humidity

[bleak sky]

I'm having to do weeklies/dailies/world quests to get gold

[gusty mirage]

what server

[bleak sky]

because no boost pays on this god forsaken realm

fucking Whisperwind

[gusty mirage]

new dungeons means new farming of trinkets

[gusty mirage]

what

is that even real

did you just make that up?

[bleak sky]

[bold drum]

i only ran like 70 CoS during both legion tws and didnt get the ring im used to it

[gusty mirage]

I got lucky first tw, @ember mural was gearing his boomie and gave me the ring after like 6 runs?

faulty took me like 83 runs first time around

cos ring took me about 53 this 2nd time

actual pain

[bold drum]

gonna be a bit better next season when the dungs actually stay around for more than a week

[vestal wren]

@gusty mirage https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jvkUeRRRkhu2SHgfArvpSr

[bold drum]

chain

[ebon notch]

wait hateful chain

[vestal wren]

tho it misses some trinkets

[ebon notch]

btw are we keeping tier sets

[vestal wren]

like eoc

[ebon notch]

im giga out of the loop

[vestal wren]

yes

[limber lion]

Yes, no dom sockets though.

[ebon notch]

will we get higher ilvl pieces also

[ebon notch]

ye this i knew thankfully

made me very happy

[bleak sky]

was a good fucking trinket

[bold drum]

but chain also simmed decent for my assa so might actually be very good for some reason

[gusty mirage]

I completely forgot about hateful chain

I loved that trinket

the healing on it was super underrated

[gusty mirage]

hi ur cute

[limber lion]

hey sexy

[ebon notch]

i feel left out

[bleak sky]

help

this was the first pull in halls

help

[ebon notch]

wat

2 mobs?

[bleak sky]

yes

[ebon notch]

have fun

[bleak sky]

im on the verge of sewer side

[gusty mirage]

good

just blade flurry and ST rotation

pussy

[bleak sky]

10 min

we just killed 3rd shard

[gusty mirage]

timing it for SURE

[bleak sky]

i hate it here

[ebon notch]

remember, you're here forever

[brazen zodiac]

u 3

oxi, minal, daps ur all so cool

[bleak sky]

daps is the only cool one

me and oxi stinky

[brazen zodiac]

yeah u stink of roses

im scared i start my trial tuesday for jailer after not playing for 2 months minal

thye just throwin me to the big boy :C

[glass tulip]

It's okay we've got more than enough to go around

[half comet]

does master assassin talent make a full bleed crit more or just for 3 seconds?

[balmy condor]

just for 3 seconds

[half comet]

ok

ty

[hasty siren]

Whos got the top NF sim? I cant break 15k 😦

Patchwerk

[hybrid vale]

I think venth is just unanimously superior

And it works to accomplish the same thing as sepsis, but it’s much better at making your burst windows thick and frequent

[hasty siren]

Snapshotting makes me cringe. Always fuck it up one time and its gg.

[hybrid vale]

Isn’t that the appeal of dot specs in general

[hasty siren]

Thats only feral!

[violet jackal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[balmy condor]

night fae doesn't change that btw

there's still snapshotting on fae

rotationally equal

the math is just not as yucky in the background since flag gives haste

[timid cloud]

But M’uh circle

[hasty siren]

guess my main beef is playing MFD 😛

[gusty mirage]

true

[balmy condor]

that I can get behind

[timid cloud]

I got something else you can get behind hotrod.

Wait a second…

[frosty cedar]

mfd so fun tho 😎

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

good thing he doesn't read assassination

[spice spire]

HC

I was going to say they have guy and long socks, they’re pretty bricked up on rogues afaik

[gusty mirage]

I smell tea

spill it

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

who's rickey?

oh

I wonder if he actually wears long socks

[spice spire]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

bro I'm getting roasted rn in my guild discord

come take my spot

[glass tulip]

are they cool long socks or dad long socks

[spice spire]

Rogue is a spot they’re actually solid

[spice spire]

Dad socks

He’s gotta bang ur mum somehow

[glass tulip]

@gusty mirage how long til big man deadge

I am locked til tuesday, cant take your spot

[gusty mirage]

depends on how fast we can learn p3

hit 35.1% under 200 wipes

so that's kinda neat

[glass tulip]

thats pretty good

[gusty mirage]

I'm sure the nerfs helped a ton

idk I just want this boss dead man

@spice spire that meme actually accurate af

[glass tulip]

I can replace you if I need, I have no guild now lol

or you hard vouch my warlock in for S4

[spice spire]

I feel you brother

[gusty mirage]

yes please come replace our warlocks

[spice spire]

Wait what

[gusty mirage]

for the love of god

[spice spire]

What happened

Also yeah

[gusty mirage]

his guild ded

GM gave up

[spice spire]

HC nutty rogues, oxi’s guild dog locks

[gusty mirage]

recruiting's a bitch man it's wild

shit rogue too

[spice spire]

I know it

[gusty mirage]

don't forget that either

I'm trashcan supreme

[glass tulip]

I have been blissfully ignorant but i think it is time to cut ties

[spice spire]

Nah oxi

[glass tulip]

no joke tho my warlock is mythic farm ready

[gusty mirage]

my lock's like 276

I want to see how this affi buff turns out

[spice spire]

Black vneck would run ur guild

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Ong

[gusty mirage]

that's my fav lock spec

[spice spire]

Notrickz detected

[gusty mirage]

y'all wanna see the meme that @nocturne lagoon roasted me with?

[glass tulip]

[spice spire]

Ye

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

you saw it already

[spice spire]

I have no lore

I’m just here

[glass tulip]

D:

[spice spire]

Yeah but that’s a mf that should be spread

Ong

[gusty mirage]

@nocturne lagoon

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

no cap tho my back in march application is being filled out as we speak and I need a hard vouch that I am a cracked out player

with no mythic logs

[spice spire]

No access?

[glass tulip]

lock got geared during extendo lockout

so no mythic raiding for him

[spice spire]

Oh locknlogs

[balmy condor]

oxi at the start of SoD, oxi at the end of SoD

[half comet]

weird question but when using prey on the weak do your bleeds tick higher damage in a cheap shot and kidney?

[blazing pumice]

yes, but prey on the weak is a separate debuff that lasts for 6s

whereas cheap shot only lasts 4s w/o dr

[half comet]

ohh yeah gotcha so you get more out of it with a full kidney?>

[blazing pumice]

no

the kidney or cheap shot applies the 6s debuff

[balmy condor]

^

[half comet]

oooohhhh im dumb

[balmy condor]

They’re both 6 seconds regardless of duration

Prey itself is 6 seconds

[half comet]

oh sorry yeah im so new to rogue im so braindead hahahah

[balmy condor]

Also should note the stun needs to hit for it to proc

So don’t try kidney shotting a boss on pull

[half comet]

yeah makes sense haha

[balmy condor]

Had a couple people in coaching sessions come over from final fantasy

There’s a 5% damage buff for your raid on ninja or something

So they just assume it’s the same thing

:P

[half comet]

im loving rogue so far its just a confusing class for me haha

[balmy condor]

Once the basics click it’s not too bad honestly

[half comet]

whens best time to pop vendetta?

[steel ridge]

Anytime you get value out of it

Its a 1 Minute cd with duskwalker

[half comet]

do my already applied bleeds start doing 30% more damage if i pop vendetta?

[steel ridge]

Yes

[half comet]

sweeeeeeet

[steel ridge]

Most of the time you just send it, depending on cov you might want to line it up with other abilities

The earlier its out, the sooner you get cdr on it 🙂

[half comet]

yeah ok

oh does prey on the weak make other people damage do 10% more aswell?

[blazing pumice]

yep

it would be a pretty awful talent if it didn't

at the same time, I wouldn't recommend using it as a dps tool. In dungeon settings you are better off taking iron wire.

There are just certain raid encounters (eg. anduin) where the add needs to be stunned that prey is useful to increase raid dmg

[balmy condor]

That top line should happen every minute flag->finish->mfd->finish->vendetta is a strict combo

Flag/vend both sync up

[subtle tundra]

youre so smart

[balmy condor]

You’re so Assassination rogue m+ player

[subtle tundra]

finally someone that doesnt call me a monk main ^^

[balmy condor]

I accept you for who you are you silly baltic bozo <3

[empty hinge]

I miss váras in keys on stream live on t.tv/varras

:_(

[subtle tundra]

hey i streamed yesterday!

[balmy condor]

Outing himself as a fake follower

Y I K E S

[empty hinge]

I wasn’t home 😦

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor what does the thing on tc research mean

[balmy condor]

On the last second of flag, use whatever cp you have for bigger dps number

[subtle tundra]

On st too?

[balmy condor]

Everywhere

All situations

[subtle tundra]

I was only doing on 3cp

[balmy condor]

If you aren’t at 30, send it

[subtle tundra]

So I just dump it, nice

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[subtle tundra]

Like a shit

Cause it feel bad

[balmy condor]

Shits do be feeling bad sometimes

But that’s what I get for being lack toes in taller ant and eating cheese

[empty hinge]

Do we have any sims for multiple targets with chain trinket for next season

[torn atlas]

Worth it tho

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-having-a-stroke-liz-lemon-30rock-are-you-okay-are-you-out-of-your-mind-gif-20346146

[misty holly]

Wait, Whispyr doesn't have toes?

[viscid spear]

Bawn drawer.

[subtle tundra]

ok 27 dos nf angle

ok how do you play nf?

i guess ill find out

[stable saffron]

Hey thinking of coming back for S4 and curious to how Assassination Rogue plays in m+. Outlaw is dead to my knowledge and i realy don't wanna play sub.

[subtle tundra]

outlaw is stronk

[drifting cloud]

[subtle tundra]

bad knowledge

[stable saffron]

Isnjt the AOE Cap on Blade flurry making the specc absolutely useless in M+?

[subtle tundra]

nope

[stable saffron]

Can you explain?

[subtle tundra]

#outlaw !

[gusty mirage]

you don't bring rogues for their aoe anyway, if you wanted to bring a melee dps for aoe you're bringing a ww monk. On top of that all the buffs to outlaw makes it really really good in ST and Cleave situations

[vestal wren]

assassination in theory would beat outlaw on st in dungeon talents

[subtle tundra]

ok assa rogue is banned in dos

[drifting cloud]

😂

[subtle tundra]

actually night fae

is so stupid

in m+ cause of urh

you get all random shit

[violet jackal]

Random?

[subtle tundra]

random timers on vendetta/sepsis/shiv

[violet jackal]

Just send it ??

[carmine dawn]

Common misconception that uncapping outlaw fixes the spec

50 x 1 is still 50 yano?

So outlaw should be near the top for 5 targets or less since the buffs

Good for low target dungeons

Probably only inting in like a dos or gambit with huge pulls. Still does fine tho

[gusty mirage]

leave it up to jake to respond 2 hours later

go back to pirate chat boy

[carmine dawn]

[gusty mirage]

[ebon notch]

may not fix it but will make it more fun

because more dam = more fun

thoughts?

[gusty mirage]

sure

still won't do monk damage though

so if more damage = more fun, just play ww monk

outlaw's in a good spot right now after the buffs

blizzard determined that it's niche is 5T cleave

so

[brave gazelle]

Sin is arguably the worst for m+ rn
Sub is better for dgs with larger pulls
Outlaw is better for dgs with more st and 3-5 pack pulls
Sin falls behind and feels complex on large aoe pulls but does alot of St on bosses

Outlaw seems to be on the come up though in alot of higher keys

All specs are viable tho unless your pushing over 25+ keys tho

Your main job as a rouge will be utility (interpruting, blocking casts, free invis etc etc) so your focus should be more on kicking things than outright dps anyhow

Tdlr if you don't wanna play sub you don't have to
Play what you want, the rest of your comp can cope

[echo geyser]

i think that person left the discord

[gusty mirage]

smart move

[ebon notch]

gnar scared him

[gusty mirage]

I might follow them

also I didn't tell you this

but I'm working on a new Fan of Knives

[echo geyser]

[gusty mirage]

moving away from asking important people questions because they never respond

coughramfamcough

[echo geyser]

im sorry

[gusty mirage]

s'all good man

[echo geyser]

my dm game is not strong

and memory for that matter

[gusty mirage]

I did just hit you with a giant essay and be like "yo respond when you can"

so it's partly on me

[echo geyser]

[brave gazelle]

[echo geyser]

guild tryna full clear tonight, is the raid a joke?

with this week nerf

[gusty mirage]

it's significantly easier

y'all are gamers, should be able to

or at least pretty damn close

[carmine dawn]

Lmao we’re doing the opposite, we’re just raiding one day a week and whatever we kill we kill

[brave gazelle]

Idk about mythic but hc is a cake walk
Feels like normal pre nerf

[gusty mirage]

you're a CE gamer now yake?

[carmine dawn]

I mean been benched since lihuvim

Just didn’t need two rogues for most fights

Subbed in for jailer one night

We also have like 26 ish players

I’m a team player

[echo geyser]

good boi

[carmine dawn]

I did hear thru the rumor mill that for being benched so long I came in very prepared and did better than expected

[echo geyser]

[subtle tundra]

Just don't forget to greed globals and fuck up mechanics

Very easy

[carmine dawn]

And I made everyone laugh when I entered hole thru a vertex

And then just got knocked into the hole behind me

And said “oh I deserve that for who I am as a person”

[spice spire]

Jake were you indeed cheesin?

[carmine dawn]

100%

[spice spire]

Nice

[carmine dawn]

Comedy relief is important 200 pulls in

[spice spire]

I agree

Strengthens mental fort

BASED JAKE. GAMER

[viscid spear]

Just get a Priest for that, bro

[spice spire]

We got one ???

[viscid spear]

I said get

[spice spire]

????

[ember mural]

should try to get a warrior first

[spice spire]

Yes man

[viscid spear]

[ebon notch]

@burnt latch bruh whisp dms me saying he found tech

and he wasnt even memeing me

[burnt latch]

LMFAO

[balmy condor]

He deadass just didn’t believe me

[burnt latch]

Feeding the addict is this at all responsible behaviour Whispyr?

[spice spire]

Mf bricked up on nocco already

[subtle tundra]

do our sims go up now?!?

[burnt latch]

LOL

[spice spire]

Why not give him something else

[burnt latch]

Daps is an avid nocco, tech and baked beans enjoyer

[spice spire]

This mf eating BEANS

Nah

[balmy condor]

okay but @ebon notch beans on bread?

[ebon notch]

i cant eat bread

[balmy condor]

[ebon notch]

i usually make beans with rice, smoked pancetta, diced onions and garlic

tastes hella good

[balmy condor]

bread too spicy or what

[ebon notch]

[burnt latch]

Daps is a mandem forged by the ends aint nothin too spicy for him sd

[hybrid vale]

i'd like to see assa get the primal wrath equivalent equivalent for rupture as well as that spell being added as a trigger for the "Cut to the chase" passive

whose wit me

[burnt latch]

We’re discussing beans atm all the actual good players will get back to you on this

[hybrid vale]

honestly

i dont like the idea of beans being the main item

like that's very unusual to me

:/

it's a side at best

garnish at worst

[burnt latch]

Its very weird isnt it, very british

[tepid pewter]

yo how is sin in keys?

[burnt latch]

I consume beans maybe at best 5 times a year, meanwhile daps is out here blasting them for breakfast and dinner DAILY

[hybrid vale]

ive had straight black beans with like a sesasoning before, but that's like when im on a high key cut and trying to get down to 12% bf

never is it a good time

having straight beans bro

[hybrid vale]

🤢

[burnt latch]

Thats what its always been for me too, a diet food

Same with tuna tbh

[hybrid vale]

if only i could stomach canned tuna

very convenient

[burnt latch]

That took some learning, its decent if u mix it with a 200g pack of cottage cheese

Well decent is maybe an overstatement but ya kno

[hybrid vale]

i might try that, i have tons of cans

[burnt latch]

Goes down

[hybrid vale]

cottage cheese on its own is fairly ok, i can't do the 0% fat tho

[burnt latch]

Good macros

[hybrid vale]

that's like

torture

[burnt latch]

Yeah lmao

[hybrid vale]

ill take the fat

2% i think is the only one ill do

[ebon notch]

ill give you my recipe and you can try it

can you get diced pancetta in your supermarket?

[hybrid vale]

i have an indian british market near me...im pretty sure they'd sell some weird stuff like that

[burnt latch]

Id think so that doesnt sound too outlandish

[hybrid vale]

the only thing i know about indian grocery stores is from looking thru the window and by that i know they love drinking regular coca cola

there's straight lines of it across the store

[ebon notch]

pancetta is like italian bacon

its hella good

[hybrid vale]

oh yeah

no that's everywhere here

maybe not diced

but it'll come in like a loaf

[ebon notch]

a loaf?

[hybrid vale]

shaped like a cucumber of sorts

[ebon notch]

oh

[burnt latch]

oh its that meat that youre actually meant to do you pasta carbonara with

[ebon notch]

yes

[ebon notch]

get that smoked shit

its insane

[hybrid vale]

most likely diced is avail

ive literally never had it ill try it if i see it next time

is it like salami or something

tasting?

[ebon notch]

well the one we buy

[burnt latch]

nah its like bacon

[ebon notch]

you're meant to fry it

and mix it into stuff

we mix it into our bolognese recipe

[burnt latch]

ziggly they use this stuff instead of bacon in italy when they make a pasta carbonara

[hybrid vale]

ah i see, it looked like a sandwich meat to me

okok

[burnt latch]

youre not supposed to use bacon

[ebon notch]

@burnt latch get some and i give you recipe

[burnt latch]

get some.. easier said than done mate

[ebon notch]

why

[burnt latch]

im not that attractive

[hybrid vale]

wait isn't it true that the most popular dinner item in uk is chicken tikka masala

[burnt latch]

lmfao

[hybrid vale]

hahaa

[burnt latch]

food culture at its finest

[ebon notch]

wat

[ebon notch]

yes

[burnt latch]

youre a slow man

[ebon notch]

legit they love indian food

but racist as hell

[hybrid vale]

i feel like you guys should like your own national dishes over others

unless maybe they're not very good 😦

[ebon notch]

after years of imperialism and colonialism

its probably not a bad look to favour one of our subjugated nations dishes over our own

[hybrid vale]

oh right

[burnt latch]

thats some british shit right there

right on cowboy

[hybrid vale]

i always forget about that

[ebon notch]

yep

[hybrid vale]

now i find it lowkey annnoying my friend from uk was like so appalled by the US gun laws hes like "i cant even imagine normal citizens having access to such weaponry"

meanwhile ya'll

friggin took ppl again they will

and theyre homes

smh

occupied their lands

smh

[vestal wren]

#off-topic <-

[timid cloud]

[burnt latch]

thats not happened too often

getting redircted from OT2 to OT1

[hybrid vale]

ok wheres my original statement

about

primal wrath

[hybrid vale]

^

[strange python]

Guanciale?

[gentle coyote]

really stupid question how often do you guys use CT do you maintain it then envenom inbetween or?

[spice spire]

You use CT just to maintain. (I assume you mean ST) only time envenom is higher priority is to extend snd if it’s needed

[gentle coyote]

oh really, so no matter what you are maintaing CT?

and yes sorry i meant ST

[timid cloud]

Yes.

[carmine dawn]

Envenom is now an SND extender

[vestal wren]

it got changed during CN

[gentle coyote]

so it has no other purpose than to extender SND?

[carmine dawn]

Ct does more dmg yeah

But it’s a loss to let snd fall off in favor of anything else

[gentle coyote]

so you'd refresh when there is 2 seconds left then

[carmine dawn]

Like

You don’t want to reup dots outside of pandemic

So yeah if you’re outside of vendetta, and just refreshed everything then youll probably get a couple envenoms in

It’s just the last priority finisher

[tepid pewter]

what is SIn good for nowadays?

[bleak sky]

Raid, st, 2t

[tepid pewter]

so no keys?

poison bomb no longer works for that massive aoe?

[carmine dawn]

Check pins for current assa build

Or faq

CT is better on all content rn

[bleak sky]

It will work in keys, it's just not great

You can do all of your keys as sin

You're just going to have to work a lot harder for ok damage at best

[glass tulip]

Favorite m+ boss is mists 1st boss. Was running a weekly 15 with the guildies and accidentally lusted on pull... We killed the whole boss in under 40 seconds and ended at 54k overall 😄

Getting a full burst feels great

[balmy condor]

poison bomb is negative dps, we run CT even in single target these days

[limber lion]

You're 4 years late there mate.

[mint valve]

i feel like i get almost no envenoms inside vendetta with refreshing bleeds and then trying to refresh bleeds right before vendetta is over

[bleak sky]

sounds about right

[ebon notch]

only time you envenom is near the beginning

like during your flag build up

[mint valve]

tyty ❤️

[half comet]

What is the best covernant for assassin?

Venthyr?

[oak sky]

yeah

[spice spire]

Yes

[balmy condor]

yuh - Arianna Grande

[glass tulip]

Yes. - Abraham Lincoln

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

Almost there Mr minalba

[solid chasm]

how lng u been on the boss?

[bleak sky]

too long

(not long)

265 pulls so far

first pulls were 19 days ago

[ebon notch]

All you have to do is drill into your team's heads the two mechanics of p4

The cleave soak and the dot

It's literally the easiest phase of the fight

People just panic cause the boss is so low

[bleak sky]

I WILL KEEP MYSELF SAFE

[ebon notch]

Are you playing outlaw?

[bleak sky]

ye

[ebon notch]

If not be very careful stepping to boss after the cleave

Ok nice

Feint every cleave

[bleak sky]

bruh he knocks you back so far

[ebon notch]

You cancel it with grapple or BR

Just like sire knockback

Just make sure you don't die to it

[bleak sky]

ye ye

I didn't have either for some reason

[ebon notch]

Sus

[bleak sky]

may or may not have grappled to keep uptime while he was running away

[ebon notch]

Just don't press BR unless you are guaranteed to have grapple

No that's fine

But make sure to cycle sprint br and grapple

Always have one up

[bleak sky]

I'm thankful we didn't kill tho, would've been a shit parse

[solid chasm]

you mean you dont wanna do like i did

and get a 7 on anduin

[bleak sky]

I got that on halondrus

i'm good on the greys

[solid chasm]

i also parsed an 11 or some shit on sylv

i know my jailer parse gonna suck but honestly fuck it

[gusty mirage]

who cares

if the boss dies the parse doesn't matter

[solid chasm]

my guild keeps me around regardless of my parses

so

[ebon notch]

I got a 0 bro

[gusty mirage]

idk why wow players are so hyper focused on parses lately

but it's toxic

[ebon notch]

The memes were endless

[solid chasm]

im not!!!!

[gusty mirage]

I'm not saying you are

but if it wasn't for that mindset

[bleak sky]

just means I can do better

[gusty mirage]

you wouldn't have mentioned it

[ebon notch]

I've never spoken about parses ever

[gusty mirage]

you can also do the mechanics as asked and be a much better raider for it

[ebon notch]

[solid chasm]

he said he wouldve gotten a shit parse

[bleak sky]

I'm not gonna grief prog for parse but I'm not gonna not juice it ever

yeah but you can do mechanics AND do damage

[solid chasm]

and i was referencing my anduin

[bleak sky]

like my halondrus prog was shit

[solid chasm]

bc i actively did shit to avoid parsing good bc it was beneficial for the actual kill

aka no pad

[gusty mirage]

you sure can, but how often is the first kill clean?

[bleak sky]

was WAY too focused on bombs/staying alive

[solid chasm]

no black powder

[gusty mirage]

our first anduin kill there was like 8 people alive

[earnest remnant]

my first anduin kill ended up on wowhighlights with our blood dk soloing the boss for quite some time

[bleak sky]

Liquid??????

[gusty mirage]

I parsed a 92 on a painsmith prog kill

and people still shit on me in here

[solid chasm]

we actually almost did the liquid shit

[gusty mirage]

wild

[solid chasm]

our dk had to solo for a hot min

[bleak sky]

me on anduin

[gusty mirage]

I wish ASP would go away

[bleak sky]

[solid chasm]

but then failed at like .2%

sadge

[balmy condor]

bro shut the fuck up WR who cares failed rogue

[gusty mirage]

okay J P M

[balmy condor]

that P better stand for peanut butter

[gusty mirage]

like the kind imma lick off your toes later

[balmy condor]

oh that reminds me I think I might be able to cut off the fungus on my nail finally

[gusty mirage]

huge

[solid chasm]

@balmy condor flat earth fucker.
sub 500 wr

or whatever that guy said

[balmy condor]

I've been waiting for the new growth to push it out enough for me to lob it off

it's getting close

[gusty mirage]

we had a discord celeb shit on me for being wr700 for making fun of his deathly shadows hard on

so

[bleak sky]

the WHAT

[solid chasm]

lmfao discord celeb

[balmy condor]

you ain't never had foot fungus homeboy?

[solid chasm]

no.

but also like

[bleak sky]

why do you have fungus on your nails

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

his country smells like piss

he prolly steps on it all the time

[solid chasm]

deathly shadows in current times???

[gusty mirage]

fungi free toes

[balmy condor]

cause athlete's foot exists

[bleak sky]

[solid chasm]

mf got e-athletes foot

[bleak sky]

[balmy condor]

foot get sweaty from work and shit, sweaty foot attract bacteria, bacteria make fungus

I don't make the rules man

[bleak sky]

WASH YOUR FEET

[balmy condor]

I DO

WASH YOUR JESUS STATUE

OR WHATEVEr

[bleak sky]

hell nah

jesus statue is NASTY

big jesus got all the diseases on it

[balmy condor]

he got diseases so you don't have to

corona jesus

[bleak sky]

[marble hemlock]

And then you put it into your pesto or on pizza and call it mushrooms. Disgusting.

[ebon notch]

What's the lore

[pure sinew]

Anyone have context on what he means by “simming Alchemy”?

What did y’all do exactly

Is it just the pins?

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion & @fleet anchor discovered that you could take advantage of snapshotting the haste buff from flag to get the most out of the 4pc overhang

it's not really "alchemy"

[pure sinew]

Ok so just the pins stuff

Thanks

[gusty mirage]

yeah

[balmy condor]

He just means that theorycrafting exists basically

[gusty mirage]

idk I hate the term "alchemy"

[hybrid vale]

Professions?

Ohhh

You’re calling running sims in wow… alchemy?

Must be Google translate

[timid cloud]

I laughed an ugly laugh at this.

[oak sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/648878373745197077.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[timid cloud]

I performed for like 200 pulls on Painsmith, then we kill it & I get a 0.

Because I slipped my finger & died.

This is why I’m kinda mid.

[pure sinew]

To be fair I think rogue is most known for constant new discoveries through sims

Monk is a second

[timid cloud]

That’s because my boy Bababaloneyus is a nut.

(In a good way.)

He’s a real one.

[hybrid vale]

and sef images have been broken since release

always something silly going on

[subtle tundra]

well

not wrong

[half comet]

When do you use flagellation?

[balmy condor]

every minute

[glass tulip]

iceblades is back?

[viscid spear]

Clearly it's a dalek.

[timid cloud]

[viscid spear]

And you're a cylon

[glass tulip]

Ash got a bandana

I'm too poor or I would join you

[spice spire]

Too bad ash still has no bitches

[glass tulip]

Well yeah

That's why they have cats instead

[gusty mirage]

You’re toxic kid

[spice spire]

Pot calling the kettle black, eh?

[viscid spear]

[gusty mirage]

Wdym

I’ve never been toxic a day in my life and to say otherwise is slander

[violet jackal]

what does the bandana mean?

[ember mural]

patreon

[violet jackal]

what are the benefits?

[ember mural]

the bandana

[violet jackal]

-__-

[vestal wren]

the only real benefit is the color

[glass tulip]

The benefit is the friends that we make here

[violet jackal]

but you can make those without being a patreon

Also where is the link, why is the support link to this discord in a hidden spot?

[ebon notch]

@limber lion wow nice emote in your name

[limber lion]

ty

it was there for literally one second

stalker vibes

[ebon notch]

No you were typing and it showed up

:<

[limber lion]

oh

[viscid spear]

[hybrid vale]

Oh

[thorn fjord]

Can i get a banana next to my name?

[gusty mirage]

Sure

Just sign up for the patreon breh

[thorn fjord]

Can i just send a D pic?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah just dm it to @vestal wren

[thorn fjord]

Ill send it to @spice spire too

[spice spire]

No man

[vestal wren]

just type !test instead

[gusty mirage]

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

Leaking dms

Cringe

[echo geyser]

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I have no self respect today

[gusty mirage]

you owe the man a banana

[spice spire]

Buddy I’ll give you a banana

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bananas-gif-9000492

[brazen zodiac]

Hi oxi!!

I found a baby peacock yesterday!!!

[gusty mirage]

hi best friend

[brazen zodiac]

I'm on a roll with birds lately

[thorn fjord]

Peacocks are annoying af

[brazen zodiac]

Idk this guys been pretty fucking vocal but only if I'm just not physically holding him

[thorn fjord]

They love screaming at 530 AM in the morning

[gusty mirage]

same

[thorn fjord]

And they'll just stand out in the middle of the street and not move lol

[spice spire]

Yo same here ong

[brazen zodiac]

That's actually how I found him

[thorn fjord]

You in Miami? lol

[brazen zodiac]

He was just standing in the middle of the parking lot at the bar

No long Island. Turns out someone released a bunch years ago and now they're invasive

[thorn fjord]

Yep... same out here

[brazen zodiac]

I gotta say the little dudes growing on me, did 3 keys with him just chilling on my shoulder

Very fun experience

Shame I don't have the kind of resources to tend to him but it has made me reconsider my career choice and perusing animals

[thorn fjord]

Thats cool

[brazen zodiac]

Ye it's fun

[thorn fjord]

They're protected by law out here so they live a really nice life just roaming around affluent neighborhoods lol

[brazen zodiac]

I named him ducky

After thinking it was a chicken

Then being told it was a turkey

Was kinda funny watching parents get pissed cuz their 3 year olds kept calling it a duck lmfao

[timid cloud]

PARDON

[spice spire]

HUH

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/battlestar-galactica-battlestar-galactica-bsg-lucifer-gif-17303349

[ebon notch]

where tf is this from

[timid cloud]

🌀

[violet jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-yhk-among-twerk-among-us-twerk-gif-23335803

[slow marsh]

I can confirm this is true

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[timid cloud]

[carmine dawn]

If you ever think oxi is being toxic? No he’s not

[slow marsh]

gotem

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[spice spire]

[timid cloud]

??

He’s tOXIc

[drifting cloud]

thats just part of his charm

[viscid spear]

[timid cloud]

[ebon notch]

Wtf

Mods?

[scarlet sequoia]

np

[spice spire]

np

[ebon notch]

why didnt you remake that rbg btw

when the rogue was perma dc'd

[scarlet sequoia]

ppl didnt want to and the other team would never ever ever wait for us

[ebon notch]

unlucko

[gentle coyote]

is it like a massive dps loss if you let CT drop in ST

[gusty mirage]

if you're talented into crimson tempest you want to keep it maintained as much as possible

[ebon notch]

outside of vendetta yes

inside vendetta its not a huge deal

[mint valve]

would you envenom and let CT drop for like 4 seconds?

or would you refresh CT to keep the uptime during vendetta?

i feel like my vendetta's can be optimized more but idk how

[ebon notch]

rupture/garrote take prio during vendetta

if both are on good timers

i.e. not about to go into pandemic

then you would CT

envenom doesnt do shit

it is low prio

[mint valve]

ohh okay

[violet jackal]

it refreshes slice n dice 🙃

[ebon notch]

only time ive used envenom during vendetta is when i was scared snd was gonna drop off

[mint valve]

HAHAH ok ty ❤️

[ebon notch]

snd has the highest prio out of all our stuff

[mint valve]

for pure ST, ive seen a split between triple potency theotar and nadjia with dauntless. is there one thats better?

[burnt latch]

I hope everyone here is having a great day

[ebon notch]

theotar with haste tea for low movement high uptime fights

nadjia with dauntless for movement

[ebon notch]

you too bud

@burnt latch you busy rn btw i need ur help to get into a key

[burnt latch]

Wdym

[mint valve]

Also, with IQD, would it be giving crit since it is our highest stat? is that good for us?

[burnt latch]

How can i help you get into a key

[ebon notch]

you have nice score

my warr needs 250 points for 3k

and i cant get invited

[burnt latch]

Oh

Unluck ive filled my box already

[ebon notch]

is ok

[timid cloud]

I’d help the homies, but I’m NA.

[viscid spear]

Yeah sex is great and all but have you ever sat in darkness wondering why you're not good enough?

[bleak sky]

Every single day

[ebon notch]

its called raiding

im so good i spend 16 hours a day doing it

did i say day

i meant week

[viscid spear]

You fixin to go blind

[timid cloud]

Yeah, I’d prefer going blind using the other method.

[gusty mirage]

bro?

I swear I take my eye off of you fuckers for one minute

and it's come to this

[timid cloud]

It’s me drawing endlessly.

[spice spire]

The emote name is literally jerk_off.

[timid cloud]

Me playing in the pool?

[spice spire]

???

[timid cloud]

Idk what you’re talking about.

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/혼파망-피자-당황-community-chaos-gif-16635574

[timid cloud]

I live for the Oxi gif reactions.

[carmine dawn]

@glass tulip comin for my spot huh

[bleak sky]

vojax finna get replaced

[carmine dawn]

How dare you toonname me

[bleak sky]

I got you on the spreadsheet

you're donezo

[glass tulip]

No 🙂

Its purple boi time

[carmine dawn]

Lol I actually didn’t read it till after I said that

Goodluck I’ll put in a good word for ya

[glass tulip]

Appreciate it brotha man

I watched your guild's prog all tier but had no idea you were in it lol

[carmine dawn]

Didn’t need two rogues for really any fights

And I didn’t have mythic sylv daggers so it’s a hard sell

Also we have a lot of melee lol

I was in for lihuvim tho

[glass tulip]

Poggers

Yeah rogue sucks to try and get into guilds when I don't have selfish parses to back it up

But the swap I want to try and prove myself on, could be huge

[oak sky]

Lol ur doing the dekai gambit

[carmine dawn]

They’re good at reading logs I wouldn’t be worried about greys or yellows

[vestal wren]

[oak sky]

[glass tulip]

Not being able to farm is the killer. Progression kills only

[vestal wren]

i agree, it is surprisingly relevant how good your parse is for the majority of guilds

[carmine dawn]

Yeah I had a bad tier ngl

I didn’t learn sub till like two weeks before tier started

[glass tulip]

Thankfully, I wasn't in a guild in the part of the tier where that would have been required

So assassin only, but same boat as you

I practiced sub in heroic week and it was ugly

[carmine dawn]

Yeah we’re on the same page for sure

You’re cool tho goodluck brotherman

[glass tulip]

I used to raid with Sera too so hoping I can get some extra brownie points for being a known name

[carmine dawn]

Aw she’s so nice

We started playing guild among us tbh she’s really funny

[oak sky]

Among us in 2022

HUH

[carmine dawn]

I never got into it

So it’s fun with like 10 people who have never played

[glass tulip]

OG among us is still fun

The new maps and versions are too much

[bleak sky]

bruh i picked up outlaw for jailer

💀

[oak sky]

Low key gonna start playing less selfish when im back on jailer today