assassination

[timid cloud]

For a class that has melees high up.

Not too sure though, gotta run some numbers & check some logs.

[lucid birch]

[bleak sky]

!ban @lucid birch

god please give me the powers to do it

[lucid birch]

!ban @bleak sky

[spice spire]

Mister dsnow is too BASED

Sorry homie

[bleak sky]

[bleak sky]

yes we're lgbtqia+ allies

[lucid birch]

[timid cloud]

Not for much longer.

[lucid birch]

True

Only during June

[bleak sky]

[timid cloud]

I love that dog.

[lucid birch]

[amber fossil]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[lucid birch]

!whispyr

Surprising

[bleak sky]

you have to dm him silly

[lucid birch]

I do that enough already

[carmine dawn]

[thorn fjord]

Need some help on this top gear
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fVbcZjQeJHcNVv3RbjNo8q

So when i use CC will the stats change on the piece?

[carmine dawn]

correct

you can see what it is before you make it

[thorn fjord]

Gotcha ty

[carmine dawn]

but the Soulblade gear will always be the same stats

tier or not

[chrome peak]

Sharpening stones, shadowcore oil or both?

[thorn fjord]

Shadowcore

[drowsy parcel]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[hollow river]

Usually just stones and agi pot

[hollow river]

[chrome peak]

Thank you 🙂

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4v54YQtpKYYvbdF79kdBzT

16k we did it boiz

[ebon notch]

[chrome peak]

ermagerd

[echo geyser]

@ebon notch sim check

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/juSnQJvaG7uRFS2aN985au

with theotar tho

[thorn fjord]

I want that dagger 😦

[oak sky]

barely ahead of me bud @ebon notch

[thorn fjord]

What was the custom APL?

Haste buff?

[ebon notch]

ye

[oak sky]

@ebon notch is any of your gear good when catalyzed rn

[muted ridge]

Yo guys, I got a question about specific situation with my rotation I'll send clip of what I usually do and would like to know if its okay or not

Since im going into hole and I want biggest uptime, I just reapply dots, pop shit for 2p and ofc mark of death for CT

is it worth doing it or should I hold the shiv for when I come back?

[hollow river]

if you got all bleeds going it should be fine

[muted ridge]

This situation happens only during these first bombs

[hollow river]

someone might correct me, but the only thing you're losing is a few deadly poison procs and maybe 1 envenom with that downtime?

[muted ridge]

after I step back I manage to get one envenom out

with Shiv still up

then I have to los

[hollow river]

yeah i mean, the big thing is the 2p affecting bleeds this tier

so i don't think what you're doing is an issue

vendetta is also still 1 minute away(maybe less because you'll spend more energy when you get back)

but the rule atm is to send Shiv on CD

which typically gets it to line up with vendetta anyway

holding for a few seconds could throw it off

[muted ridge]

yeah and I cant hold Marked either

cuz then I dont get it for Vendetta

[hollow river]

yeah

always better to stick to the script

i think you're doing the correct thing

maybe @ebon notch has more insight

[muted ridge]

I'm still experimenting with min maxing there, whether to use shiv earlier or later, are envenoms more worth or the bleed damage during downtime

that's why I'm asking

As we are getting close to clean P3's

[hollow river]

typically you want to keep all bleeds up

envenoms are just filler and for keeping slice up

[ebon notch]

ill take a look in a min

[ebon notch]

that is completely fine

theres no reason to hold shiv there

you have your dots up

your downtime is like 3 seconds maybe

[muted ridge]

Got it, thank you c:

[oak sky]

rule rn is shiv on cd with garrote and rupture up

then i think hold for a vanish vendetta window

[ebon notch]

wdym

[oak sky]

like if you catalyzed your boots cape wrists would it be a gain

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/goCtMCfoKBm8MPUwReiAt1

wrists

[echo geyser]

280 wtf

u are actually juiced up

lookin like a WF raider

[oak sky]

im 279 ram

[echo geyser]

almost good

[oak sky]

[echo geyser]

i did a pug raid 2 bosses on rogue

got 278 wrist on skolex(not using) but it put my bag ilvl to 280 at least

[oak sky]

nice

i want the skolex belt for transmog

[bleak sky]

WF raider (week fifteen raider)

[oak sky]

ill have to yoink it once we finish jailer

[echo geyser]

[bleak sky]

im sorry daps

I promised not to be toxico

[echo geyser]

toxicco

[ebon notch]

xd

[hollow river]

The crit haste one?

[oak sky]

yeah

dont care about the stats

dont think its an upgrade for me rn

[hollow river]

Orange and red monk set belt ya

I have it it’s sick for mog

I need the white one

Also need to farm Lfr normal and heroic mogs

Have full mythic mog but none of the others

[oak sky]

i definitely will skip lfr

idk if ill do heroic and normal or not

and im not even done with mythic yet

[hollow river]

Yeah doing Lfr blows

I want to get the elite pvp set

Tired of not getting those

[oak sky]

Pvp isnt fun enough for me to do that

Maybe if i had a squad

[thorn fjord]

LFR set looks better than the mythic set and thats annoying

[hollow river]

That’s a weird take yo

[balmy condor]

I like normal sepulcher more than mythic

minus the shoulders maybe

but like

the black looks so much cooler

[lucid birch]

L+ratio+didn’t ask!

[bleak sky]

[ebon notch]

[glass tulip]

!unityfix

[prisma monolith]

If you have issues with UNITY not working try the following:

• Log out and in again
• Close down World of Warcraft and clear the wow cache (delete Cache folder in WoW/retail)
• Unequip the Legendary and equip it again
• Change Soulbinds/Covenant

To prevent this issue in the future:

• Make sure to avoid putting two different unity legendaries on different gear sets. If you swap saved gear sets with different unities, it will break.

[hollow river]

[red plaza]

Your catalyst energy is probably banked, you could always turn ZM gear or m+ gear into lower tier mog

[sour wraith]

did something change to massively boost scars sims?

[balmy condor]

nop

[sour wraith]

any reason i'm getting this then? or is it normal now

[balmy condor]

[sour wraith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/meqb1SbhAf3qM9e4XTUvoF sim for ref

oh

dslice

[balmy condor]

[sour wraith]

sometimes you just gotta talk yourself through things, y'know

[hollow river]

true

[split maple]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[gloomy epoch]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[versed mica]

There is the elite PVP reskin for it

has the mythic glows and shit but it's black

well, maybe more or a grey

[balmy condor]

would have to PvP even a little bit for that

and that is something I refuse

[versed mica]

lmao bruh

getting to 1800 ez pz

[balmy condor]

yeah

but that would mean I have to pvp

[versed mica]

tru, I didn't enjoy it either

I literally just did it for the set + access to a high ilvl ring with huge vers for outlaw

[burnt latch]

The only pvp whispyr does is kicking the rotten @ebon notch from this server

[balmy condor]

having to spam BG's for blood during BFA

no fun

[burnt latch]

I had 4p on mythic week

Must admit i went into 2s and killed people in last seasons gear with it

Was pretty fun

Literally nobody had any tier

[versed mica]

I mained havoc DH the last tier of BFA, and I had to do arenas for conflict and strife lmao

In case you don't remember, that was the arena tier where LMAO BEAR TWILIGHT DEVESTATION ONE SHOT

[burnt latch]

Didnt play bfa started wow in SL

[balmy condor]

zoomers

[oak sky]

based

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

age

[vestal wren]

i am surprised somone who started in SL did continue to play

[oak sky]

depends on what you like about the game fuu

[burnt latch]

This expac is sick

[oak sky]

as someone who started out casual and developed into mythic raiding this is a fine expansion for me

[vestal wren]

i think the long patch cycles and low-ish amount of content would scare more people away from the game

i am happy you like it tho

[burnt latch]

Idc about the lore stuff etc just gameplay, and gameplay wise its been good

[oak sky]

^^^

[burnt latch]

The fact that i enjoy m+ probably helps cuz sod was kinda shit but atleast Could do keys on the side

[vestal wren]

it might come down to what xpac you started with

somone who started with legion f.ex. is used to a content flood and short dev. cycles and will inherently compare the game to that iteration

somone who started in bfa, is still used to shorter dev cycles, but also lower amounts of content

[burnt latch]

Yeah thats completely fair, and dont get me wrong ill take more content for sure, but im content at worst

Sod was meh

[vestal wren]

the great thing is

[burnt latch]

But the minigame of chasing world ranks has been fun outside of that aswell

And chasing m+ score

[vestal wren]

if you like this xpac, i don't think it can get much worse, so dragonflight should be quite good compared

[burnt latch]

Yeah im looking forward to it

Id play SL for another 3 years fuck it lmao

[oak sky]

my details is bugged weird

its not showing the parentheses

[burnt latch]

U had to google how to spell that didnt you

[oak sky]

nope

[burnt latch]

Good damn, we have an intellectual amongst us

[oak sky]

did have to think about it though

[burnt latch]

GOOD DAMN

[trail orchid]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[oak sky]

english is my first language ok so its less weird

[burnt latch]

Ahhh i see

Using unfair advantages

[oak sky]

tbf most other americans probably cant spell it

[burnt latch]

Also to your initial statement i dont know what parenthasies (didnt even try) are

[oak sky]

()

[burnt latch]

Where is it supposed to have those

[oak sky]

right numbers

[burnt latch]

Oh yeah

That looks creepy

[oak sky]

yeah

not sure why

my details normally has them

and every new character i make has them

[burnt latch]

Im pretty sure u can change the formatting in the settings

Mby it got changed somehow

Or just create a new window with a new profile

[hollow river]

really?

i haven't really stopped playing since i started in nathria

though, i have definitely done some raid logging in each tier

[vestal wren]

raid logging becomes notmal

*normal

i am just biased because my expectations of the game are diffrent

[hollow river]

and for me there's honestly a ton of content

being new, i have nothing from old content

[vestal wren]

and wow became very seasonal with smaller content amount and twice as long content release cycles

[hollow river]

so ill pick something i want to farm and farm it

i enjoy making gold, raiding, etc

[vestal wren]

thats true, wow has a lot of legacy content that is nice for collecting stuff or doing achivements

[hollow river]

want to get into pvp for the slow lull periods

instead of raid logging

yeh, i don't really care about achievements much

[vestal wren]

pvp in sl is quite something

[hollow river]

i just like for my characters to look cool

[oak sky]

no idea what happened but i fixed it

[hollow river]

ya pvp is bonkers now

all i did back when i played in wrath was pvp

and it's night and day compared to now

[oak sky]

just got a 5 buff on loaded dice trinket

[fleet imp]

Is it possible that on tyrannical bosses surv does almost the same dps as sin?

[oak sky]

depends on the skill of the players

and gear

[fleet imp]

Decent players same gear

Lets say ppl that can comfortably time 20-22s

[oak sky]

i meant like if the hunter is better than the sin rogue they could beat the sin rogue

also could depend on stuff like cd timings

but like generally speaking the sin rogue should win on most bosses

[spice spire]

What about trash though

[fleet imp]

If rogues does 14-15k

A surv?

[oak sky]

could depend on covenant obviously

[fleet imp]

Ventyr sin kyr surv

[oak sky]

keep in mind that the survival hunter will do more overall in any boss fight with adds, and also their cleave to uhr might overpass your lead in boss damage

[fleet imp]

I mean surv is just too good at this point... it feels kinda frustrating

Big aoe big st

[oak sky]

the st really isnt that big

[spice spire]

The ST is fine.
Sin should win on your pure ST fights

To just say “m+ boss” is a bit of a generic statement

[fleet imp]

Guess due to relics on bosses

It has a lead

[oak sky]

literally if you want to compare damage you need to look at damage dealt to the boss

[spice spire]

I wouldn’t even say that

[oak sky]

not what details shows after the fight ends

[spice spire]

On survival having a lead on boss damage*

Relics work for us too

[fleet imp]

Where would you play sin in keys?

I was expecting it to be good for Tyrannical...

Maybe on keys like SoA?

Sanguine?

[oak sky]

if you enjoy it you can play it viably in any key but realistically it would do worse than sub and outlaw in anything

best keys for sin are gonna be lower target cleave dungeons, so like ToP, plaguefall, streets

[fleet imp]

Cool cool I was hoping it was good for some at least

[oak sky]

ones with a lot of prio damage like spires or sanguine its decent as well

big aoe keys its straight up weak, but should still be viable at least to 25s or even higher

[fleet imp]

So what you are saying is maybe its better on those but in the end outlaw will perform higher there too?

[oak sky]

its not likely that sin is your best choice in any key right now

a good choice maybe

but not best

[fleet imp]

Aight got it

I am kinda bored doing keys as sub so I wanted to try something different and went outlaw (a bit too much)

[oak sky]

yeah feel free to play sin its perfectly viable

[fleet imp]

Than tried Sin, pretty simple spec but I wasnt happy about the output

Good funnel, good utility, low aoe and not impressive st

[oak sky]

sin's st is on the stronger end, you lose less than a lot of specs going a key build

aoe is just usually favored over st pretty strongly

[fleet imp]

I guess I will just stick with Sin for late bosses raid since I have the feeling that downtime due to mechanics is more forgiving

[oak sky]

thats a lie

current sin you're hard glued to the boss during cds

[fleet imp]

Outside of cds is fine

As kyr sub is rougher

Cuz you are "always on cd"

[oak sky]

you do you chief

[fleet imp]

Kinda wanna understand, I know sub good enough but "new" to Sin

Maybe this feeling is wrong

[balmy condor]

I eat dinner and come back to the classic "sin downtime pog"

all is right in the world

[slim wagon]

that seems a late dinner even if you are in hawaii timezone tbh

[balmy condor]

my dad works closing shift on tuesdays

[slim wagon]

makes some sense.

[zinc frost]

As long as the words scaling aren’t used

[balmy condor]

bringing back all the classics

[zinc frost]

What was for dinner tho

[balmy condor]

burrito

0 effort dinner

cause rice already cooked

[zinc frost]

Sometimes the zero effort dinners are the best tho.

[balmy condor]

also no one asked but maplestory bosses are like really fucking hard jesus

[spice spire]

Ur right tho

[oak sky]

"wow really"

[balmy condor]

I'm getting gang banged and some of the ones on the edge of my characters power are like 12-20 minute fights get me out dude

[zinc frost]

Yo wtf I played maple story in like 2006.. how is it still a thing

[balmy condor]

it's quite big

also not going anywhere

they're reworking like 30 classes over the next 2 patches

visuals and all

[random fossil]

Is endgame stuff doable without spending $$?

Maplestory that is

[balmy condor]

yeh

just a grind

[random fossil]

Time to get back into it I guess

[balmy condor]

the endgame isn't really comparable to a lot of mmo's though

like is end-game hitting max level? cause no one in the world has done that yet after they raised level cap

is end game killing the final boss? I mean maybe, that's doable, will take a long long time to get to though

it's a journey more than a conclusion

[random fossil]

I see I see

Thank u king

[balmy condor]

np

[worn sorrel]

I have now played around 10 keys as assa...I have both legendaries but my vendetta and covenant thing do not align 😦

.
I guess its because Im not properly using enough CPs to reduce its cd

Or its normal to have a 5-6sec delay on flag?

[drifting cloud]

normal

vendetta comes back faster

[worn sorrel]

So I should wait for flag before vendetta?

[drifting cloud]

in raids yeah, I guess its alot more flexible in keys but I also dont run assa in keys this season

[balmy condor]

yeh you just wait

[worn sorrel]

I see

And...in 2T situation

I have trouble to keep every dot in 2T if I envenom/Slice once

(Slice runs out)

.
Should I use slice to get the buff back, or just envenom?

[balmy condor]

you have trouble with it without vendetta?

[worn sorrel]

y after vendetta runs out

I lose one rupture or CT for some seconds if I rebuff slice (or envenom)

[balmy condor]

you should be able to maintain on 2 targets fairly easily, but using envenom to refresh slice is the highest priority of anything you could ever do

it's worth to drop bleeds to envenom for slice uptime to prevent it from dropping

[worn sorrel]

Okay

And

I should always vanish to garrote during vendetta right?

[balmy condor]

not if you're playing MA

if you're playing subt, yes

[worn sorrel]

Mobs die so fast that I dont even use vanish at all tbh

I play subt yea

They way of using subt= pool energy and triple garrote?

[balmy condor]

well you're using it during vendetta so you should have no need to pool

vend is gonna give you crazy energy

[worn sorrel]

But do I spread garrote during vendetta?

[balmy condor]

yes

[worn sorrel]

THe empowered garrote

Oh okay

And why dont we get subt during bosses lol

[balmy condor]

like why don't we take the talent in raids?

[worn sorrel]

i mean in m+ bosses

[balmy condor]

I don't understand the question

you talented subt for m+

so you have it

[worn sorrel]

Do you get empowered garrotes if you vanish in m+ bosses?

[balmy condor]

yes of course

[worn sorrel]

oh

I think I got confused cause you dont silence bosses

And with Nelf racial? Do you get subt in bosses?

[balmy condor]

no

nelf racial isn't a true stealth unless you can fully drop combat

which you can't do during any boss encounter

[worn sorrel]

I see

Its insane to do +6t pulls as assa btw

[balmy condor]

you could technically hit nelf during a pack, afk for 3 seconds or whatever to make sure you get a stealth off

and then subt cleave 3 targets

that was worth it last I checked

[worn sorrel]

I think I could Nelf racial + stealth without delay

[balmy condor]

but if you're already not vanishing cause mobs die, I doubt it's gonna be worth it

[worn sorrel]

I didnt know assa was actually so fast paced

You get infinite energy, its insane to try to dot everything lol

.
And does the shiv conduit work on aoe? Or only ST

[balmy condor]

shiv conduit is single target

[worn sorrel]

Is it worth to keep dotting when mobs are 5-10% hp?

[balmy condor]

its only worth rupture sniping if you need the energy

[worn sorrel]

na i dont

so just envenom there?

[balmy condor]

otherwise if it won't survive the full duration, don't bother

yeah

[worn sorrel]

Okay now i hate it when mobs are very low hp

@balmy condor How do you manage the relics? Rupture/garrote feel like a waste, but using envenom early feels bad too

.
Same with MT in aoe pulls

[balmy condor]

I don't play sin in keys cause I'm not a psychopath so dunno what you would do with relics

cry I guess

use them as fok cp banks and maybe chuck an envenom out

main target in aoe pulls is super easy though

you just do a single target opener on it and stick to that mob until your vendetta runs out

[worn sorrel]

i meant mutillate

lmao

[balmy condor]

why would you mutilate in aoe

[worn sorrel]

yy thats what i meant

to kill the right relic

but yeah its better to fan and envenom if you wanna do that

[worn sorrel]

damn

:

[scarlet sequoia]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tAHf9MPmrKMuD1nZm9ZvJH almost there

[worn sorrel]

Its unfair to sim that high

[oak sky]

bruh raz you have double rygelon already

[muted ridge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7E6TtLchdiBSbQoKk5aeXR tfw you find +108 by just Catalysting everything

[scarlet sequoia]

ofc, both from vault tho

have had 3 of them in vault now

[oak sky]

impressive

[pseudo hamlet]

Yeah, I also noticed that cloak and wrists are upgrade for me 😄

[tardy basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[ebon notch]

I'm in your head rent free and it feels so good

Could you maybe get a better sofa tho

And Netflix

[burnt latch]

[ebon notch]

!ban @burnt latch

[limber lion]

Had a nice Cola Nocco for breakfast today

still waiting for a free Nocco-shipment a la dapsman

[ebon notch]

Breakfast??

[ebon notch]

I mean if my plan works you'll get a bunch of free nocco

[limber lion]

I mean, eggs and bacon with a nice Nocco on the side

[ebon notch]

Our caffeine addicted m+ pushing healer got his shipment yesterday

He drank like 4-5 in one day on top of coffee

Built diff

[burnt latch]

Dream

Tuutko huome painaa taas pomoja

[subtle tundra]

what the fuck is a nocco

[limber lion]

todellaki

[burnt latch]

kova

Firman juhlissa, saa nähä miten huomenna oloissa kulkee

[subtle tundra]

STOP STOP NO MORE THIS STOP

PLEASE NORMAL

[limber lion]

[burnt latch]

[limber lion]

Joo kyl tollanen alle 2h setti toimii aika hyvin, toivottavasti toi 8 bossin dream ei kaada pakkaa huomenna

[subtle tundra]

im calling a mod

[hollow escarp]

and the police

[limber lion]

Oh no

[burnt latch]

Tämä, ei innosta

Please no

[hollow escarp]

and the HR department

[subtle tundra]

y'all banned

[burnt latch]

I miss typed

Auto correct

Dont ban

[hollow escarp]

autocorrect failed here

[outer cairn]

So question on Panth fight. First time seeing it on Mythic and going in as Venth Sin. I tried multiple things, but wondering if there is a pretty optimal opening. I'm thinking that either I could 1) Open up on my main target and go full ham with Vendetta and everything and then throw some stuff over on the add as it spawns. 2) Get SnD, Garrote, and a Rupture up on one boss then get bleeds up on main target and Vendetta, but doesn't seem very optimal. 3) Just get bleeds rolling on both bosses, wait till after add phase, then go into first Vendetta.

[burnt latch]

[ebon notch]

how about you help the man

instead of being useless

[ebon notch]

it shouldnt take you longer than 5-7 seconds to dot up both targets

you can even flag your main target early and rupture the off target then mfd rupture main target into your normal rotatoin

[outer cairn]

ooo that makes sense. yeah I get the 5-7, but it was taking the tanks some time to pull them together and I was just focused on mechanics really

[ebon notch]

garrote the first

and then step to the other boss

to minimise the downtime

thats what i did on prog

[outer cairn]

maybe next time i'll start on War, get Snd, garrote, and rupture rolling and then step to other if they aren't together yet

[outer cairn]

So you opened with garrote or Mut>snd>mut>garrote>Step?

[ebon notch]

garrote > ambush > step > garrote > snd

[outer cairn]

oh playing with subt talent

[sick aspen]

is it dw or zold for mythic panth?

[ebon notch]

duskwalkers probably at this point

since they nerfed p3

[burnt latch]

I dont know how to play

Rather leave it to the professionals

[violet jackal]

The pain

[gusty mirage]

I’ve been faking it since sod brother

[ebon notch]

faking what

[gusty mirage]

(Knowing what I’m doing, don’t tell anyone)

[ebon notch]

is this a suits situation

did you pass the bar

[burnt latch]

Whats the bar

[ebon notch]

big test you do to become a lawyer

[indigo mulch]

Imagian actually making a lot of money when you work :pepehands:

[glass tulip]

That thing you duck under when you play limbo

[ebon notch]

@gusty mirage you stacked?

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[winter gale]

Are there some rogue specific Sepulcher YT guide or any POV you guys would recommend?

I am reclearing with a guild that is a bit further than me which I hate 😂

Im watching Stankie for guide and Endwyr POV

[limber lion]

who dares

[ebon notch]

Me

One sec

[viscid spear]

@limber lion

[ebon notch]

@limber lion @burnt latch

👀

[subtle tundra]

the fucks that

[limber lion]

sheesh

what flavors are those even

[ebon notch]

I think I got mango and Carribbean

I don't have full control since I'm in the UK

[spice spire]

SHEESH homie

[ebon notch]

Scandinavian countries get new flavours and shit

[limber lion]

where do they ship em from?

Sweden?

[spice spire]

You’re gonna be gaming

[ebon notch]

i guess?

they just show up at my doorstep

didnt even text me

[viscid spear]

He needs to make sure he turns the computer on

[limber lion]

kek

[viscid spear]

He just shotguns a bunch and then he's like

it's not on

[ebon notch]

432 jailer wipes

for this

worth ig

[limber lion]

you don't even drink nocco

[ebon notch]

ye i ordered flavours my gf wanted to try

she's gonna be wired

[viscid spear]

He'd buy the non-caffeinated one by accident

Like drinking O'Doul's and thinking you're drunk

[ebon notch]

@viscid spear i will clap your cheeks

[viscid spear]

Drink enough energy drinks and your cheeks will clap themselves

[gusty mirage]

It isn’t

[echo geyser]

AYO

lets fucking gooooooooooo

did u get 4 boxes or only 3?

i s ee an empty slot

[spice spire]

Ayo?

[ebon notch]

I don't think they could've fit a 4th

Box was heavy as fuck

Might have broke

[echo geyser]

stay safe with ur back

[spice spire]

Is ram telling someone to keep themself safe?

What a good lad

[ebon notch]

Ram is a pillar of this community

[spice spire]

Yes he is

[ebon notch]

I read this in his voice

[spice spire]

For a ram, he kinda a goat tho

[ebon notch]

And added "no shot"to the end

[viscid spear]

Ram prefers to do the damage himself

[hollow river]

Goodness gracious this man stays WIRED and DIALED IN

[glass tulip]

Only time he misses a global is when his heart skips a beat

[hollow river]

WICKED

[ebon notch]

[hollow river]

Bro I drink hella Nos

[ebon notch]

im having to play warrior for first two bosses on reclear

[hollow river]

[ebon notch]

PUMPING

im fuckin 273 ilvl

[hollow river]

Better than half of NA with their prescription performance enhancing drugs

[ebon notch]

drink nocco kids

[hollow river]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-thirsty-nos-gif-9303750

[burnt latch]

I used shiv too hard

No nocco

[viscid spear]

NOS 🤢

[hollow river]

Nos r best

[carmine dawn]

Imagine not loving bawls

[echo geyser]

nocco built diff

[ebon notch]

i did os much boss damage

[echo geyser]

which flavor did u have before smashing the boss

[ebon notch]

😛

[ebon notch]

just smashed anduin

i had to swap off double charge

for storm bolt

[bleak sky]

Stun cringe

[ebon notch]

we pulled and i tried to double charge

and just had to jump towards the boss like a monkey

[bleak sky]

lmao

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/J62R3/8e9a276d34.png

love not getting poisonprocs from meleeing

for 6 fucking seconds

[subtle tundra]

you mean cock-o

[ebon notch]

bottom of the barrel rng

[viscid spear]

"dude just poison it smh"

[winter vapor]

for mythic gurdian, we just tunnel boss and throw out SBS onto adds right?

[limber lion]

Pretty much, can throw out garrotes/ruptures on the big guys as well and CT whenever mobs come close

[winter vapor]

ty Cev

feels weird playing necro though, may switch back to venth

[ebon notch]

@limber lion

fucking

flash heal

tainting my logs

[tall cove]

does anyone know if serrated bone spike stacks on itself?

[gusty mirage]

what do you mean

[tall cove]

like in an ST situation, if i put all 3 on the boss, does it stack the three times or am i just wasting the other 2?

[gusty mirage]

like the debuff?

the debuff doesn't stack

[tall cove]

alright cool, ty

[gusty mirage]

np

[viscid spear]

You'd still use SBS on ST to not cap charges, especially if you're running Heirmir

[gusty mirage]

I mean you do that regardless of soulbind

[viscid spear]

But Heirmir you're doing it during the Gemstone period?

[gusty mirage]

correct

you unload em in gemstones

[viscid spear]

While the other two you're just making sure to not cap on charges

[gusty mirage]

ye

well emeni you use em to extend lead by example during vendetta

and marileth if you want to min-max you could use it to make sure kevin's sticking around during vendetta

[viscid spear]

I don't think I've ever used Emeni on Rogue, I didn't know

The Marileth thing is a good point, I need to remember

[ebon notch]

@gusty mirage ur so smart and handsome

[gusty mirage]

weird, you must be looking in the mirror

[viscid spear]

Mirror Mirror on the wall
Who's gonna wipe in the Hall?

[bleak sky]

not me

[viscid spear]

Unsanitary

[ebon notch]

:3

[winter gale]

Is it normal that Nadjia sims 10% less for me in ST or I messed up my sim? 😄

[subtle tundra]

probably messed it up

[winter gale]

It looks like sim is not counting conduits for Nadjia :/

[ebon notch]

it can sim like 200-300

[glass tulip]

That reminds me I should probably change off of dauntless duelist for rygelon

[ebon notch]

why

dauntless bis

[winter gale]

Sim is not using Conduits for Nadjia, just for Teothar

[glass tulip]

Isn't dauntless for st only

[ebon notch]

yes

ryg is a ST boss for us

we are not swapping to quazars

[subtle tundra]

he is gonna starfall quasars

[ebon notch]

we are not swapping to core outside of just rupture/garrote

[winter gale]

Dunno why, Ill try to make a sim logged out 😄

[bleak sky]

yes

[glass tulip]

I swap quasars because my team doesnt

[ebon notch]

not your job

[glass tulip]

I have to carry them in my lil backpack

[subtle tundra]

maybe spin on them

nvm wrong spec

[ebon notch]

[bleak sky]

I was about to check your logs

but then cringe happened

private logging 💀

[glass tulip]

Nice try idiot

Can't poach me

[bleak sky]

oh but I can

i'll make an offer you can't refuse

[glass tulip]

You could offer me WR 400 and a bottle of coke

And I'd be in

[winter gale]

What I did wrong?

[glass tulip]

We can't have our boomies Starfall then or the back two die too fast. But it's them and the hunters doing most of the quasar dam

[plain jewel]

if im using the cache trinket do i wait for axes/swords or just use on cd?

[glass tulip]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[winter gale]

I kept same gear for both, just opened Nadjia and selected a path

multiple paths*

[glass tulip]

@winter gale just go to top gear, click the soulbinds at the bottom and it should give you a filled out output

[plain jewel]

so is it worth to hold cache if its on wand

[glass tulip]

Yes, do not click wand

Ever

Unless you are doing world content and want a mob to die fast lol

[plain jewel]

kk ty

[hollow river]

How odd... you spelt warlocks wrong

Oh wait..

[glass tulip]

[hollow river]

[glass tulip]

I know what I said

[hollow river]

All 3 rogue’s quasar damage down cataclysmic

[oak sky]

dauntless is better its like 100 st dps or so theres no shot your poisons do enough to make the swap worth

[glass tulip]

I just got my 99 H jailer

finally

100 kills later.... literally

17.2k

[limber lion]

gz!

[oak sky]

good to see you back cev

[ebon notch]

[limber lion]

:')

[spice spire]

[winter gale]

is unity on head slot popular option ? 😄

[spice spire]

It is once you’re situated. We avoid recommending it since that’s where tier goes, but at this point, yeah

[winter gale]

Sims 1.1% combined with converting hands into tierset

Im just curious how ppl are simming all this without paying for raidbots

[spice spire]

A lot of us pay for raidbots

[ebon notch]

get your guild to pay for raidbots

[winter gale]

Me too 😄

[ebon notch]

thats what i did

[spice spire]

Daps really out here

First nocco now raidbots

[ebon notch]

this guild already had it tbf

my old wr 500 guild i suggested it in my interview

and the gm was like "thats a great idea ill set it up now"

ezpz

just need 1 guy with a premium sub and everyone shares it

[spice spire]

Man is drunk with nocco and power

[bleak sky]

deserved though

daps deserves all the noccos and all the yesccos

[spice spire]

You say this until next xpac he’s fotmevoker

[bleak sky]

i'm fotmevoker

it's fine

[ebon notch]

fotmvoker

the E makes it unclean

[spice spire]

Fair

My apologies mister dapspman

[ebon notch]

it is understandable and forgiven

[bleak sky]

fotumvoker

yes

rolls of the tongue easily

[oak sky]

fuddumvokah

[bleak sky]

fo'o'vokah

[balmy condor]

UK grime rapper dapspman

[limber lion]

innit mate

[subtle tundra]

tomorrow is drunk outlaw raid night

im hyped

[pseudo hamlet]

Ok guys. I've got >3k in M+ as Assa rogue.
My opinion:
We aren't doing TOP AoE/Trash DPS, but at least we're almost as bad on the bosses.

[subtle tundra]

wat

[balmy condor]

boom mates pissed in the tube
slammin the homies no lube

[bleak sky]

[pseudo hamlet]

Didn't expect assa to be so bad in M+.

[bleak sky]

wdym bad on bosses though

you should be doing damage there

[balmy condor]

(that's the only thing sin does)

[subtle tundra]

its not extremely bad, its just not good

[pseudo hamlet]

Yeah... like 10-15% higher than the second person. While on the trash most of the people have like ~50-100% higher than you.

[ebon notch]

I taught our french hpala to say bo'o'oh'wa'ah

[bleak sky]

they're already french man

[ebon notch]

Fkin hilarious

[bleak sky]

don't make them also bri'i'sh

[ebon notch]

"hey bro how you"

"going to get a bo'o'o'wa'ah bro"

[bleak sky]

i'll app to nocco rn

need to witness this

[ebon notch]

You don't even know what I sound like

[balmy condor]

bomboclat

[ebon notch]

this is him

fking clown

[ebon notch]

WAGWAN FAMALAM

[bleak sky]

[balmy condor]

UHRG UER SOH FHUNNIE

[ebon notch]

[outer cairn]

for M+ we got subt talent even if venth?

[spice spire]

Yes

[glass tulip]

No

I am a firm believer in never changing covenants or talents

[ebon notch]

im still running outlaw nf with qd and ds

[deft vault]

u can cloak mcs on jailer right?

like the one you have to los

[scarlet sequoia]

yes but you’ll cloak off your damage buff too

[deft vault]

so better to cloak the first oppression then?

[ebon notch]

yes

cloak and gate late

then cloak the last mc going into p2

[strange python]

Bruh

[deft vault]

fucking pissed we just killed rygelon on our first pull and my unity was bugged

[strange python]

I'm being sent to all 3 artificer platforms and flamed for dying

On farm

[ebon notch]

i have

ascended

[bleak sky]

what a chad

world renowned dapspsman

[ebon notch]

dapspspspspsman

[bleak sky]

prrrr

[glass tulip]

mr daps I need advice

[jaunty crystal]

damn he's MR daps now

[bleak sky]

daps on his way to green name

[drifting cloud]

no charity

[balmy condor]

[bleak sky]

you're just jealous man smh my head

[oak sky]

known streamwatcher

[oak sky]

really gonna do him like that

[ebon notch]

yes

[ebon notch]

comin for ur job on god

im gonna be one of the cool green names

that doesnt do anything but like

is helpful yknoi

[glass tulip]

I will dm in a short bit

[oak sky]

@ebon notch dont forget me when ur famous

[ebon notch]

ofc not

[balmy condor]

Yeah you and skip right

Another outlaw cf

[ebon notch]

skip is a blue name

cause he's blizzard

[simple rivet]

i struggle getting 30 flag stacks on jailer prog

😦

[ebon notch]

thats cause you arent meant to consistently get 30 stacks

[simple rivet]

im always 28 or 29

[echo geyser]

thanks daps very informative and helpful i rate u 8/8 m8

[ebon notch]

❤️

[ebon notch]

that is

completely fine

👍

[simple rivet]

i want the 3-0

[ebon notch]

well

[echo geyser]

play sub then

[ebon notch]

yeah

[echo geyser]

[ebon notch]

thanks ram

[echo geyser]

on sin i could say crit better

[ebon notch]

ur reclear is saved

[echo geyser]

great, but now we have the skip so we probably skip regardless

if we wanna try rekill jailer

[bleak sky]

DONT DO HIM LIKE THAT

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[bleak sky]

with that skip you can prob get 2.1k rating

[lyric cave]

whats the pandemic window for crimson

[simple rivet]

i will cherish these words of wisdom

[echo geyser]

[bleak sky]

[wooden dawn]

why is ct spammed during jailer p3 adds/p2 mcs just cuz its gonna do the most aoe dmg in the small time frame they are alive?

[bleak sky]

ct is not spammed

[wooden dawn]

it is

in logs

[echo geyser]

did they have cache up?

[bleak sky]

too bad

[echo geyser]

the axe

[wooden dawn]

ahh

i see to just get as many procs of that

[echo geyser]

known padder @ebon notch may have mentioned this to me

he is all about sin tech

[bleak sky]

mc lasts like what

3 sec? 4 sec?

[wooden dawn]

so like running sigil its probably better to just throw out a ct and keep on boss

[echo geyser]

good or bad doesnt matter, as long as it is not known

[wooden dawn]

ya i understand the proper usage of ct im just asking to squeze more pad dmg if i can

[ebon notch]

I spam it

before i had cache axe lined up

specifically for it

and thats the best way to proc it

but tbh in that short time frame its probably the best way to pad damage

idk

i wonder if just doing boss dam is better

[wooden dawn]

since im running sigil il prob just blast boss after one cT

[echo geyser]

i mean logs > prog right

Nocco way

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-dat-way-that-way-gif-13810319

[ebon notch]

how many

jailer rekills

do you have

[echo geyser]

man dont be so serious u know i love u

[ebon notch]

smh

[echo geyser]

sheesh aight sorry bud

[ebon notch]

im sorry

i overreacted

please forgive me

[echo geyser]

i go bed

[ebon notch]

i dont know if thats a yes or not

[balmy condor]

Time to sim the daps tech

Cause I’m suspicious

[ebon notch]

the first spike

is me CT spamming on adds

with my cds running and maintaining bleeds on boss

and the second spike is my cds during lust in p4

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V48ZbGAQJ1YkjafH#fight=29&playermetric=dps&playermetrictimeframe=today&type=damage-done&source=20&by=source&start=12379073&end=12515010

[bleak sky]

you made him sadge

fuckin bully

[ebon notch]

i know

[bleak sky]

no green name for you

[ebon notch]

i have been dealing with a lot of

harassment

[bleak sky]

we already have 3 bully green names

[ebon notch]

due to my inability to mind control my raid members during prog

[bleak sky]

[ebon notch]

im still so pissed

i somehow didnt get 2nd pot

like i didnt press the button hard enough or something

[spice spire]

?

[bleak sky]

oxi seli guy

[viscid spear]

Broccoli names

🥦

[brazen zodiac]

👋

[spice spire]

Guy’s chill

Don’t slander that goat

[balmy condor]

@ebon notch how many target do we have in your cache thing

[ebon notch]

10

11 sorry

Boss also

[bleak sky]

sup sup sup sup

[balmy condor]

@ebon notch its showing minor gains but mostly just because of CT spamming super high target counts baseline, not because of the cache

[bleak sky]

my raid is playing for fun

help

[balmy condor]

CT in sims already is pretty aggressive in higher target counts so I'm only getting about 0.7 extra CT casts over a 5 min fight

if I full send it completely disregarding the timer I get 2.5 extra casts

so idk

seems fine probably

it's like +25

I'm gonna look at it a little more

also haven't looked into what happens if those targets die

it's +25 with them lasting the full cache buff

and just full sending

full sending specifically during cache is like +8

[ebon notch]

The adds only live like 5-10 seconds

That's where my logic of spamming CT came from

Surely the on hit damage gains value in this scenario because of target count x fight duration

I stopped running cache anyway because I got sigil

And I don't use sigil during add spawn

So it's literally CT spam

[amber fossil]

!IQD

[ebon notch]

Just press it fam

Right @bleak sky

[bleak sky]

yes

look at wa though

if it doesn't say stat don't press

[amber fossil]

I thought I saw in here soewhere that it was sim bait

[bleak sky]

it's not sim bait

that's daps coping

[amber fossil]

ok great, just checking if it was worth spending valor on upgrading it

[bleak sky]

you just have to think a little before using it

[balmy condor]

yeah so in that cas you're really only getting maybe 1-2 CT's, It would be a minor gain I guess but like 0.2-0.3

[bleak sky]

and think about kill times

and how the fight plays out

[amber fossil]

sounds like the cache then, difficult to line up with vend

[balmy condor]

I mean it's definitely tech I guess

but it makes no noticeable difference to your dps

it's just cope to say that it's better because it might be worth 5 dps

miss an envenom crit

and you're out of luck

[ebon notch]

Did you check the log?

I'm getting like 4-5 CTs off

[balmy condor]

Yes

4-5 total

1-2 extra

[ebon notch]

Ahh I misunderstood

Wait so what did I say that was wrong

I thought we were comparing doing normal rotation on boss and cleaving the adds to just spamming CT

[ebon notch]

On prog it is because it will give mana 99% of the time

[bleak sky]

you can read the aura

[ebon notch]

Whereas with kill times on prog you can get 2nd sigil usage on most fights

[bleak sky]

it's really not that hard

[ebon notch]

Bruh we have discussed this before

[bleak sky]

yes

and kill time is likee

[ebon notch]

What if your healer doesn't go above 30% mana?

You just sit on it?

[bleak sky]

"we have 50 pulls on this and we got to 25% so maybe boss dies in ~6 min"

[ebon notch]

Cause that's the scenario I have ended up in when I tried to use IQD on ryg prog

[bleak sky]

not THAT hard to gauge a kill time from prog

[ebon notch]

I mean sure

But I'd rather take 2 sigil uses than 2 IQDs

Assuming fight time is like 5:30 or smth

[bleak sky]

and if you're ABSOLUTELY sure you can't get a 2nd good IQD usage, you can still sim it

[ebon notch]

Which is not uncommon this tier

[bleak sky]

there's a dropdown for it

[oak sky]

sigil is better NODDERS

[bleak sky]

goes back to kill time

[ebon notch]

I know there is but that's the part that makes it sim bait no?

Cause it does sim well

[bleak sky]

no?

[ebon notch]

But only if you can guarantee you get stats

[bleak sky]

I'm having trouble seeing the issue here

I said you have to think to use the trinket

that goes for the sim as well

[oak sky]

should iqd not only win under 5:30 greater than 3

[ebon notch]

Yeah

For example on dausegne rekills

I'm gonna run IQD

[bleak sky]

i feel like we're saying the same thing

[ebon notch]

Not sigil

[oak sky]

dause~na

[ebon notch]

Cause I get two uses to the 1 sigil

And people aren't going oom or being low hp or w.e

Or at least I can play around it

[oak sky]

wait

no

wrong

i dont think iqd is ever better tbh

in a 5 min sim

you get 1 sigil vs 2 iqd

sigil still wins at least for me

[ebon notch]

Sim varies between 4:30-5:30