#assassination
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Like for talents or whatever
just dont die to stupid shit
and use defensives properly
nobody cares about your parses bro
Man you’d be surprised…
play the game well
I'm apping to guilds
Idk what rank we’re talking about but peeps around mine look at parses a lot
if a guild doesnt consider you just because you dont have all 99s
then theyre dogshit
I had a conversation with an RL who openly admitted that he took someone else because they had slightly better numbers and that’s it
Well yeah
Turns out there’s a lot of very dogshit RLs in the 1k+ area

Want to thank the theorycrafters of the this discord.

everyone
people love their tier lists
for whatever reason
you don't remember max's tier set list?
I wonder how many sub rogues not named jpc think that the sub tier set is "OMG AWESOME"
but that shit is automatically generated based on done keys on the week 😛
i thought it was fun for a bit
then i realised there wasnt a lot of minmaxing and shit
and got bored
It gets old pretty fast yeah
so ur telling me
i could play sin
and itll say S tier


if he plays sin a +30
yeah but can you play sin
it'll skew the fuck out of that chart
The frontpage is worthless tbh
assuming they show "high keys"

But i like the rest of the website
I check if for talents builds, leggos, conduits
i could, just not as good as u daps
Especially for classes I don’t really know
everyone memeing me today bro
real sad boy hours
I think you're beautiful and an amazing player and person
and I hope your week is going well

thank u oxccipital lobe
❤️
trying to keep positive vibes during jailer prog
it'll be the only thing keeping me sane
is spreading joy and love to others
thats pog
im kinda going all in with outlaw loot spec in vaults now
i prefer it over sin in keys for ST
I mean you got rygie daggie?
nope
any raid boxes?
i did one box yday
but need to find a stable 5-8
cant do saturdays?
well it seems outlaw is better if u want ST, and on fortified u kinda move away from rogue
so idek if i want a rygie dagger
i wanted to play sin in raid, but then outlaw buffs came
daps how did raid go
idk
killed VG anduin lords
30% on ryg
officers unlisted the logs
because people inting for parses
sniping PIs and shit

they told me id get one for vg and anduin
then 4 pulls in
"i take from you"

then 10 pulls later
"ok you take this guys pi"

is the dps loss substantial when using cache without always waiting for axe?
rgr , ty
@balmy condor when will you start juicing jailer
After it dies
Is that the most strategically sound decision
That's cap
what if not greed but juice dps

mood
I am juicing
how much does your assa sim
Which tank lol
15.2 I think?
I haven’t simmed in a while
?????
the fuck no way, has to be higher
ringless?
My auto ring is 246
your unity on wrists probably isnt doing you favors
i dont even have good gear
I logged out in my sin gear quick sim me
other than that your gear is pretty much the same as mine -sigil and aa ring
which isnt 800 dps
if you can shitpost here you can quicksim him
Oh actually logged out after a venth sub key
í

what do you mean special
Doomed
Whats aa ring
í
From court of stars
yes
Is legion tw fun?
no
definetly not
there's nothing to gain but a dumb ring and maybe a trinket
I just dont want to learn a lot of dungeons to play one week
My brother in christ this game isn’t fun
no IO, no anything

it's just shit
Is mastery like really bad for assa?
Assassination doesn’t have bad stats
Thats what I thought okay
you actually did a key?
I'm impressed
Ye
For sure

Waiting for the rogue talent trees so I can disappointed and tell people to play the same shit we’ve been playing for the last 6 years
Will we have to recraft legendaries?
Please can every legendary automatically increase to max ilv
Legendaries go away in 10.0
we don't even know if there are legendaries
Theres an ilv increase in s4
Tbh i d keep playing even if we stayed s3
I skipped more than half of 9.0 and the whole 9.1
So i wanna play
alacrity is gonna be a passive talent now gain 10%/20% haste
i just want to see the talents now tbh
Me too
oh to be young and hopeful
you are helpful
get fucked, edited
fund me a headhunter
i will come to your house and burn it down
(respectfully)
oh no
anyway
make sure I'm inside of it pls
weirdge
bro someone in our raid said we should ban anyone under 25
that kills a tank and like 5 dps

nah
YOU'RE cool
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oPURomn6exwAUvhk5yNT4N damn bro Is uck
love the weapon
you suck
fuck you how bout that huh
Tomorrow U get it
we had venthyr outlaw
I would have had I ever touched that spec before
Bro just do it
I won't before CE
and maybe not after either since I'm most likely main swapping 
How’d you go
S4

and unless there is a really crazy shakeup to get good before dragonflight
Bruv season 4 isn't real
is it just a deception?

No cap, if I only played one toon, I think I’d be bored. I’m out here making my own content with different classes.

Must…hold…strong…for…mounts…
With that stuff in the pins about the vendetta overhang logic, using that weak aura, rupt and gar light up after vendetta has finished and the bleeds are in pandemic range
Do I wait for them to fall off as they're the snapshotted ones before reapplying?
or get close to 0 basically, rather than say rupt at 7 seconds or so
You let them go all of the way off because they’re empowered.
The only one that doesn’t matter is CT
sweet, figured as much
@timid cloud I got ivory cloud serpent today
Looks pretty slick with my white slut mog
I don't either unless it's by accident
ive actually done a few runs of sha of anger
just dont have the patience to do it every week every character
few kills i guess you would say
I try mount farming but then I hearth halfway through because I only use the one mount 
if my cds are looking like this I just hold everything for flag right ?
yes
Would you shiv in that scenario?
I remember cev said once to hold it only if flag is up in 8 seconds or less
When you do m+ opener, when do you shiv?
I’m envious. 
No because vanish is up
If vanish was not up you could shiv
So with vanish it’s worth holding to align everything up for the big crit window
Yes
!ban @burnt latch
Have you gotten your free beer voucher after being hit by a car yet
I am usually going 4x Garrote + shiv -> Flag -> CT
nope insurance dont believe me
I ll try that ty
did you show them the car shaped mark in ur ass
yes but the guy i showed it to im pretty sure he isnt a doctor
oh
Gamers, might be a dumb question but
How many seconds is the pandemic for rapture and garrote during vendetta window?
half
Something like 8 and 4 is possible?
can check pins for precise timing
I told you I am a doctor, just not THAT kind of doctor
you got a dr title?
F
I have a doctorate degree
hmm

i feel violated
nice
Been doing it wrong all the time since my WA for sin still has the normal logic behind 
I'm a doctor of old words written down by old people after they heard people argue for hours
it's pretty much the same thing
time to update WA 
I have the same, but I just got used to apply garrote at 3 and rupture at 4 during vendetta
too lazy to update wa
wtf what about those POINT FOUR SECONDS KOJACK?
Its a luxthos customized by me
I am scared to update it
we can't all be perfect
I use Luxthos and just changed the garrote/rupture ones over and it works fine
hi oxi
Gonna end up in a sleep deprivation to fix it
hi friend @brazen zodiac
Gonna stick with this too most likely 😂
you might be able to just slap cev's afenar ones in there
and be good to go
Yep, works like a charm
Did you manually change stuff in there?
add another condition to change pandemic if vendetta buff is active on target
All I did was just remove old rupture/garrote timers, replaced them with cevs ones. Lined them up nice and it works great
make sure to tick Own Only
You are overstimating my skill
It took me 2 days to learn how to move the combo points from the default to under the character in a smaller size
Well, your options are to have a go at changing the WA or be a gamer like Kojack
both good options
Gamer time feels less stressful already
I would 100% fuck it up if I put hands on conditions
The vendetta pandemic could have just explained my green parse on rygelon


Not yet you don't. 
any recs on progging pantheon as sin or sub? I'm equally comfortable on both
cool. and I have earthbreakers, sigil, cache and phial.
not sure the best way to sim for the fight
Just blast, either way you’ll have a miserable time that fight is legit dogshit for us
I'd rather do skolex, xymox and halondrus 500 times in a row than do pantheon once
such an awful fight
it's by far the worst fight in the raid
and it's not even close
the fight just has no nice rhyme, it is just a bunch of mechanics thrown together
wonder what will be the worse fight in season 4
also Necro with zold or nah
its actually quite fine, last week i finally played not-rogue and wasnt assigned to solo ritualist so the fight was enjoyable!

Nah just play dusk
HUGE
Varas is ascending to a better class and more damage
We’ll miss you friend 
Still council, KT, and Pantheon dw
what about slg?
you better 
Kt by far,only played council as dk so was fun to pad
kt was a better version of council
with more padding
SLG should be here instead of pantheon
pantheon is barely a fight anymore
In a smart group sure
But my Alliance group was terrible at learning mechanics.
We'd have to see a fight a dozen times to learn one mechanic.
Imagine a KT fight where you didn’t hold dps for half the fight
Would’ve been great
SLG was a million times better than pantheon, assuming it didn’t bug out
And council was just a terrible fight

I can't wait to do Painsmith again
I love mechanics that involve sweeping across the room, idk why
slg was almost 10 mins long
So?
our reclear of pantheon was 6 mins
i cant think of a single fight thats 9+ mins long that i enjoy
I liked Lich King back in Wrath 
But i was rogue for kt
Didn’t like Denny?
getting 200k frost set crits and insta pushing the boss was BIS
Hated it
But I was warlock then and having to find time to plant was not fun. Also soul rot only hitting Denny and both cabalists if he was in the exact right position sucked
If you didn’t like Sire, there’s something wrong with you.
One of the best designed fights since KJ
Only part I think people will agree to dislike is the massive lag in p1 that everyone went down to slideshow frames / lagged out on when you got all of your souls out.
You should try sire as a warlock.
Also, opinions are opinions. I thought the spam of adds causing massive lag in p1 was bad design. I thought night hunters were bad design, I thought the platforms in p2 requiring a gateway were bad design
I feel like if nathria's bosses weren't set in a cool aesthetic people wouldn't rate it so highly. Most of nathria was horrible.
how do i sim for pantheon last phase? patchwerk 4 bosses but whats the health APL thing?
Wait no
Wrong one
enemy_initial_health_percentage=xx
There ya go @cerulean nest
sweet tyyy

expert mode
header?
Gotta do it in advanced or expertmode
I liked the actual fights
Other than Council
Never experienced the later bosses on mythic, but would’ve loved to. Though I hear slg was a shit show
who doesn't love holding dps 
I thought shriekwing was okay, huntsman was a great second boss, hungering was too complicated without the WA and too simple with it, inerva and artificer we're shit-tier, sun king is a bottom 5 boss all time, council is a bottom 5 boss all time, slg is a bottom 5 boss all time, sludgefist was fun and Denny was okay
It was. But I think seeds being run out are a bad mechanic
I'm generally against having mechanics that force a portion of the raid to not have any fun and to not get to hit the boss. Same thing on new artificer and the night hunters on panth
Ugh this is a rwf opinion
most of nathria was horrible but denatrius was top tier, when u got past friking p1 lag
Yeah idgaf about stream moments. I care about playing the game
If I had my way I'd remove the rwf and I'd ban twitch entirely
Except after the first kill it's never a complicated mechanic and immediately becomes a frustrating way to make someone stop playing for however long
Many CE raiders spend more time on farm than they do on prog for most bosses
Maybe if fights weren't so god damn awful in farm people wouldn't hate the thing that takes up the most time, and nathria's a peak example
@gusty mirage you made it to wow highlights 
I swear, every mc'd druid becomes a rank 1 pvper with typhoon
Shriek was just not a good fight, worse intermission than Painsmith, because at least at Painsmith I was entertained/distracted by the mechanics.
Another take, people loved Sludgefist, just didn’t like wiping on it.
Great Sin fight.
shriek good
Painsmith BiS
Painsmith was the most fun fight in a hot minute
Until they took out intermission balls so we had to phase with 0 CP
@balmy condor


link me
Mine too plz

insider info

@glass tulip I was already youtube famous 2 years ago tho:
rode double rogue to 2200 mmr while he was hammered
Mavverick Log Review
We request a #thread mister community figure sir
Way ahead you chief

@hollow river @glass tulip look at you two cuties raiding together 
Doing a double review off one log? Yes
nah mavv gets it first
LOL
(I’m a trash can on jah)
Spam SBS 4head 
bruh the hunter diff

PI's were kinda wacky
our priests can be rather... absent minded when it comes to using them like we ask them to
you playing marileth?
bonesmith
rip WCL
I had a real hard time with kevin
whatchu mean
kevin's kinda just there
shiv into giga bonespikes during swarm
and pray you don't get boogered
kevin uptime*
that seemed like an optimization people talked about a lot and I never bothered to learn it
I am also literally allergic to pressing fleshcraft
Bruh wouldn’t even press flesh before pull 
actually 0 casts on 75 pulls
I tried to at least remember before pull
and if I did it was accident bc I tried to door of shadows
But you started getting tilted with the ready checks 
Lack of ready checks*
There would be a pull timer, and I’d still be on the ground 
20 second pull timer double the time needed to get food buff 
Are you down to go over a couple things before raid?
yeah I am gonna cook lunch now and then im free before 6
that's fine, I'll just be in jailers. dont need vc though so I can talk on the side
Sounds good 👍
!pandemic
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
guys im not washed up woohoo this is clearly me playing as ethical as possible on anduyni
Teach me your ways
prepull eh, chi burst at 2 sec pull timer
!cache
Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand
wdym
there's no need to play ethical on that boss as a rogue
PAD HOMIE PAD

Go ahead & let me see the poison katar
i do a bit caching
💬

good
steal the warlocks' damage
do gods work
and if they ask you to funnel
be like funnel this

bruh
i got rank 3 boss dam
couldnt pad on shit
fucking
One off topic question...how long until this CE ends aproximately?
dingdongs
2 months?
No one knows for sure
Decent guess is 6-8 weeks
Short tier tbh
I’m kinda hoping for another 10-12 weeks
Yeah idk. 9.2.5 just came out so honestly
It could easily be until September
Y, I heard something about late september but its only speculation or assumption
I mean
Because we say it in raids when people grief.
September would be on point then ya?
“Week X & still not knowing what’s going on.”
What week is it now, now that I think about it?
No idea

@hollow river why you did no damage on lords
I got pulled in sorta randomly and only saw the boss for like 15 pulls man
Didn’t prog it in my last guild
And haven’t played necro since Nathria 
Where’s my review 
link ur log
another 285 on folyr 🤤
It’s the same log as Mavv 
more spooned than jpcarve
You just called out my dps 
ok take all the stuff i said to him
and apply to yourself

😦
I’m pretty sure I fucked up more than he did throughout the fight though
Was focusing way more on staying safe from terroristic green circles
Such muscle memory to do x3 garrote in that situation.
Gotta remember I don’t have Shrouded, I miss those days…

In ST should I do garrote ambush? (M+ build)
Yeah same.
Old man
It’s been 2 years 
9.0 was announced over 2 years ago
hey guys

with the logic of forcing dots at the end of vendetta, do you still refresh with pandemic or does that overwrite the stronger dot from the end of vendetta?
if that makes sense
still refresh the dots from the end of vendetta*
You mean after vendetta falls off?
Before it falls off, yes.
You wait for those forced bleeds to almost fall off entirely
Wait
At least I always refresh at like ~1sec left
Force before vendetta falls off, wait until the shotted bleed is falling off to refresh post vendetta
Notrickz and I are on two different points 
For those forced overhang bleeds
I think NoTrickz knows what i mean
You mean the overhang bleeds ya?
the forced dots at the end of Vendetta, you want them to basically expire before reapplying
Yes
Yeah I wouldn’t force yourself too hard on it
Depending on your exact rotation it can be impossible to refresh at the very last second because you’d end up holding energy and combo points and wasting a GCD
Sometimes I send an envenom and let them fall for a second and then reapply
Not sure if that’s the correct way to go about that though
there are partial ticks or some shit
whisp will know better
so you can refresh at like 2 or 1.5
and not lose a lot
do you go zoldycks for m+?
most people go dusk afaik
zold is prob fine for high fortified keys
hey i got versa/mastery wrists 278 and unity 291 waist/crit haste.
i have a crit/haste waist 268 and was thinking about to swap wrists on 291 crit/Haste to get more main stats, but raidbots says i should´t do this becuase it sims less dps
can sb explain me that ?
that is my current gear
and raidbot says i should go for all gems and entchants mastery on the rings
Whatever sims better will make you do more damage
Crit and haste are our best stats but really mastery and vers arent far behind
if i look on raider.io the best 3 assa rouges they got much more crit than me and less mastery that makes no sense for me
@balmy condor you didnt respond to my earlier question
You didn’t respond to my nudes
Think its razer synapse
did same thing change ?
my char asked a lot of hast and drit and now just asks for mastery ?
Just means you got to a point where a little bit of mastery gives you more damage
Stats are a balance
Hey quick question, may be dumb... what is the reason for crafting Unity on Wrists vs Cape or something?
Mainstat
Technically head legs and chests give you the most stats but since theyre tier slots its easier to recommend something that doesnt get filled up by that
ah wrist gives more than cloak?
Am I missing something? or is this guy playing the whole fight without Slice n Dice up? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vRkT2bKrpV4wqFJ7#fight=33&type=auras&source=1&translate=true&view=timeline

43% crit , 22% hast 23% mast , 7% vers aint balance
snd on logs is buggy if it's casted prepull
probably a 30 sec pull timer with mfd snd
Ok yeah, assumed he used it prepull but couldnt see it
Not like a 25-25-25-25 balance man, just that you cant go too far into one stat without the sim preferring another one
how did IS feel on lords
btw
Its good but i made some misplays on my kill pull
Ill have to go back and do better when we reclear again
anyone around thats experienced mythic anduin as assa?
Fire away, pretty much everyone that has played it is in this channel lol
Was sub on kill but i have 200 wipes of prog xp
I read the dungeon journal hmu
Very tasteful, I must say
@drifting cloud https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/spEBg1Z9nA91DJaUDGLddN
L bozo
you're cringe + you play alliance + no bitches + you sim higher than me + I'm zdps
wtf did you do to get so unlucky with loot this patch
and 249 Melandrus is kinda bad too I guess
but atleast you got it
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dTXtJ8662UrAUiifBPffZE
bozo + I play horde + Im out of jail + I clicked random things
not that my sub gear is much higher
recrafting unity
is L
you can't make me recraft
My Sin finally surpassed sub yesterday with Vault 🙂
wait so that 249 AA ring is actually from this rotation just not upgraded
can u play the fkin game pls

oh I didnt even see the phial lmao
anyways assa slaps on jailer no cap
everyone padding on adds and mcs you pad on BOSS
you also pad on adds
with cache
cache is cringe
the longer the p4
the more dps you do
i only got to do like 22k
yeah but your kill is before the change
with bugged hp :p
we killed resonably fast for new strat, 3s after 2nd frontal soak
its just a really good kill timer in general for assa
and 3 stack going into p4
we didnt bug it
oh ok sorry, well still its totally different scenario
youd blast way more p4 with how its done now
like you just preimmune 1st torment with cloak and if you dont get bombs you can have 100% boss uptime until it dies
not sure if this is a silly question but, do we FOK during LODs aoe damage amp phase?
you dont
thank you
@ebon notch your fault I died
yeah but you're rent free in my head with your juicing shit
and I'm fucking inting by being like 0.3 seconds late to things because I'm trying to get an envenom off

jjuice hharder
juice
my raid lead actually starting to get irritated
i'm sure it's not you fucking up
I didn't tell you to be bad at juicing
are you melee heavy whispyr
like I think when youre 100 pulls in you should try playing p1 and p2 like you would on a kill
and dps matters (until they nerf his hp next time) you really dont wanna get 2nd heal absorb in p3
but I dunno unless you got like 8-9 melee with healers included I feel like this fight is so chill as rogue
oh yeah that is the worst by far
ok thats
cringe territory
or well thats already in cringe section, would be pretty hard to be worse off
and then "oh windfury though because two warrior"
and I doubt anyone freaking ran 3 melee healers here
ah yes the 250 dps wft for fury
is resto melee heal
literally worse than most tanks
we had same on our kill
idk how shamans work
nah resto chills
idk it's just real weirdge sometimes
I'm getting fucked by all sorts of weird shit
like I tried to los but then because the pillar is huge I ended up hitting an invisible wall and smashing my face into it and then missing

it's just
the fight should be getting scripted for you at this many pulls
LOL
so much dumb shit
caps
yeah thanks
gl whisp
it is
D:
but I'm trying to juice
what
yeah when its scripted
thats when you can start juicing
cause you know when and where everything is happening
like
everything everywhere all at once?
the moment someone takes one step out of line
i notice it
i'll step on your line bud
kek
when i stream you can come and bully me all day bro
but yeah I mean daps is right tho
im not gonna say with 2 more melee its probably insanely worse but we would just spread for torments same way after a while
did you have melee healers daps
thats them failing a tank swap im pretty sure
hpal
yeah so thats 1 less guy than whispyr has 
nah they just get smashed
he hits very very hards with autos
i know that
but they shouldnt be getting oneshot unless its a tank swap fail
especially post nerf right?
even on heroic he was gaping my bussy
😳
on kill we had 6 because of viklund
but with jpc we had 7
and with jpcs replacement we had 7
yeah but 1 melee healer instead of 2
unless the mw is afk outside of melee
thats gonna be our rekills, mw was sitting
yes but
still 7 melee in total
i dont understand what you're saying
whispyr has 7 melee dps and 2 healers
so he has 9 melee?
yep
anyone who doesnt count melee healers in melee hasnt been fucked by one before
so yeah 9 sounds like NO BUENO
yeah I have 9 melee with healers
anything remotely tight should have the healers move out tho
so it shouldnt be a problem
BUT DAPS
THEIR HEALING
HPS METERS 
@balmy condor show overhealing
I actually brought up that the shaman needs to get out of melee
and he was like "WELL I NEED TO HEAL SO WHAT? YOURE GONNA DIE? YOU WANNA DIE? YOU CAN DIE THATS FINE I JUST WONT HEAL"
so I was like aight bet
guess it's 10 melee now

yeh I mean he doesn't alway sdo it
gotta hate 2head players
I never noticed him in melee tbh so wasnt an issue 😛
show overhealing pls uwu
1 less warrior, disc for rdruid
logs are broken atm why does it matter
because we had healers complaining
but they were all doing 40% overhealing
so it shut htem up
i mean it does
only works if they listen
if you show them that almost 50% of all their healing
is being wasted
they will be forced to shut up
yeah dmg on jailer is super predictable
ryler what guild you in btw
theres 1 or 2 bombs if someone misses the hole it can just kill 3 people but that will just naturally stop happening with more pulls
uhm pescorus, just random 2day guild that did a few extra raids this tier because now we dont raid for 2 weeks 
so todays was last raid regardless if jailer died or not
killed it 6h ago

nah it died today
sure in p4, other than that not really 
its nice because you can do it like 3 different ways depending on your overall dmg
we did 2nd frontal soak into hold dps for 5s into 3 stack into p4
but you can just go p4 before 2nd frontal with good dmg, or atleast before 3rd chains right after
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