#assassination

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ebon notch
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cares

umbral rapids
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Like for talents or whatever

ebon notch
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just dont die to stupid shit

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and use defensives properly

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nobody cares about your parses bro

umbral rapids
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Man you’d be surprised…

ebon notch
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play the game well

strange python
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I'm apping to guilds

umbral rapids
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Idk what rank we’re talking about but peeps around mine look at parses a lot

ebon notch
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if a guild doesnt consider you just because you dont have all 99s

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then theyre dogshit

umbral rapids
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I had a conversation with an RL who openly admitted that he took someone else because they had slightly better numbers and that’s it

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Well yeah

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Turns out there’s a lot of very dogshit RLs in the 1k+ area

ebon notch
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i mean

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theres a reason why theyre 1k

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lmao

umbral rapids
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I don’t disagree

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But you gotta get through that to climb the ranks

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And it sucks

autumn frost
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Wooo!

ebon notch
autumn frost
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Want to thank the theorycrafters of the this discord.

umbral rapids
gusty mirage
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everyone

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people love their tier lists

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for whatever reason

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you don't remember max's tier set list?

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I wonder how many sub rogues not named jpc think that the sub tier set is "OMG AWESOME"

drifting cloud
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but that shit is automatically generated based on done keys on the week 😛

gusty mirage
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of course

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but ranking it in a tier based on population is asinine

ebon notch
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then i realised there wasnt a lot of minmaxing and shit

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and got bored

gusty mirage
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just roll numbers better idiot

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randomly generate them better

umbral rapids
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It gets old pretty fast yeah

echo geyser
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i could play sin

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and itll say S tier

gusty mirage
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you'll play sin and it'll skew the fuck out of their adorable chart

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yes

umbral rapids
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Not really still depends on population

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So kinda

echo geyser
gusty mirage
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if he plays sin a +30

ebon notch
gusty mirage
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it'll skew the fuck out of that chart

umbral rapids
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The frontpage is worthless tbh

gusty mirage
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assuming they show "high keys"

ebon notch
umbral rapids
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But i like the rest of the website

gusty mirage
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it's nice to see what people are trying out for sure

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like leggo wise

umbral rapids
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I check if for talents builds, leggos, conduits

gusty mirage
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because after all, whats the point of not trying out dif shit

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ya know?

echo geyser
umbral rapids
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Especially for classes I don’t really know

ebon notch
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real sad boy hours

gusty mirage
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and I hope your week is going well

ebon notch
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❤️

gusty mirage
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trying to keep positive vibes during jailer prog

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it'll be the only thing keeping me sane

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is spreading joy and love to others

ebon notch
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thats pog

echo geyser
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im kinda going all in with outlaw loot spec in vaults now

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i prefer it over sin in keys for ST

gusty mirage
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I mean you got rygie daggie?

echo geyser
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nope

gusty mirage
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any raid boxes?

echo geyser
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i did one box yday

gusty mirage
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I'd try to get rygie dagger

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tbh

echo geyser
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but need to find a stable 5-8

gusty mirage
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ye fair enough

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if its just 1 raid box idk

ebon notch
gusty mirage
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I'd probably copium for a pox in 3 m+ choices

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over 1 box hoping its a rygie dagger

ebon notch
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is sylv dagger bis for outlaw offhand all the way this tier?

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like over ryg dagger?

echo geyser
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well it seems outlaw is better if u want ST, and on fortified u kinda move away from rogue

ebon notch
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outlaw can do cleave and ST

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with ease

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assa can do better ST with ass cleave

echo geyser
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so idek if i want a rygie dagger

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i wanted to play sin in raid, but then outlaw buffs came

drifting cloud
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daps how did raid go

ebon notch
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killed VG anduin lords

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30% on ryg

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officers unlisted the logs

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because people inting for parses

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sniping PIs and shit

drifting cloud
ebon notch
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they told me id get one for vg and anduin

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then 4 pulls in

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"i take from you"

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then 10 pulls later

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"ok you take this guys pi"

echo geyser
ebon notch
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id rather not have it lmao

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i need consistency

amber fossil
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is the dps loss substantial when using cache without always waiting for axe?

balmy condor
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Yes

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It completely ruins the entire point of the trinket

amber fossil
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rgr , ty

ebon notch
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@balmy condor when will you start juicing jailer

balmy condor
ebon notch
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Is that the most strategically sound decision

balmy condor
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Me not wiping the raid is the fastest way to kill it

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So

strange python
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Andddd we gave sigil to a tank

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Bro get me out of this guild

balmy condor
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No it’s not

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Greed dps bad

bleak sky
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literal clown shoes

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🤡 👟

balmy condor
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Why greed when can kill boss

bleak sky
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what if not greed but juice dps

drifting cloud
bleak sky
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greed = bad plays for damage

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juice = good play for damage

gusty mirage
bleak sky
gusty mirage
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mood

balmy condor
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I am juicing

drifting cloud
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how much does your assa sim

gusty mirage
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5 million

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I simmed it for him

worn sorrel
balmy condor
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I haven’t simmed in a while

gusty mirage
drifting cloud
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the fuck no way, has to be higher

gusty mirage
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I just told you I simmed you

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at 5 million

balmy condor
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Has to be higher with what bro

bleak sky
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ringless?

balmy condor
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My auto ring is 246

oak sky
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15.2 starege

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whispyr 1k below

drifting cloud
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your unity on wrists probably isnt doing you favors

oak sky
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i dont even have good gear

balmy condor
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I logged out in my sin gear quick sim me

drifting cloud
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other than that your gear is pretty much the same as mine -sigil and aa ring

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which isnt 800 dps

oak sky
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im playing right now

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rygie

bleak sky
oak sky
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special character

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now

balmy condor
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Oh actually logged out after a venth sub key

bleak sky
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í

balmy condor
bleak sky
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what do you mean special

balmy condor
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Doomed

bleak sky
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''' '

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' + i

worn sorrel
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Whats aa ring

bleak sky
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í

balmy condor
worn sorrel
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Idk

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I guess legion

bleak sky
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yes

balmy condor
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Legion timewalking

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Yes

worn sorrel
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Is legion tw fun?

bleak sky
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no

drifting cloud
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definetly not

bleak sky
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there's nothing to gain but a dumb ring and maybe a trinket

worn sorrel
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I just dont want to learn a lot of dungeons to play one week

balmy condor
bleak sky
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no IO, no anything

balmy condor
bleak sky
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it's just shit

balmy condor
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Yeah it’s m+ gear

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With mastery

worn sorrel
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Is mastery like really bad for assa?

balmy condor
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Assassination doesn’t have bad stats

worn sorrel
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Thats what I thought okay

gusty mirage
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I'm impressed

balmy condor
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Ye

bleak sky
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assassin TC is a raidlogger

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smh my head

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how can I trust him smh smh ssmh

balmy condor
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L Game

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End of expac

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We get CE, maybe 2-3 reclears

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And then fat ZZZ

bleak sky
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next xpac we get to play old dungeons again!!!!!

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it's gonna be POGGERSSSSS

balmy condor
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For sure

bleak sky
viscid spear
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I can't wait for Grimrail Depot

balmy condor
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Waiting for the rogue talent trees so I can disappointed and tell people to play the same shit we’ve been playing for the last 6 years

worn sorrel
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Will we have to recraft legendaries?

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Please can every legendary automatically increase to max ilv

balmy condor
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Legendaries go away in 10.0

bleak sky
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we don't even know if there are legendaries

worn sorrel
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Theres an ilv increase in s4

balmy condor
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Yeah but s4 is whatever

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Probably will have to recraft i guess

worn sorrel
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I hope not

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But probably yeah

balmy condor
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There’s no new content in s4

worn sorrel
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Tbh i d keep playing even if we stayed s3

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I skipped more than half of 9.0 and the whole 9.1

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So i wanna play

oak sky
balmy condor
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I wish I wanted to play

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Expac is over for me tho

oak sky
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i just want to see the talents now tbh

worn sorrel
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Me too

oak sky
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rogue always picked last besad

worn sorrel
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What they released up to now is ok

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There are bad things but easy to fix

gusty mirage
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oh to be young and hopeful

bleak sky
bleak sky
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make a new fun character

gusty mirage
bleak sky
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fund me a headhunter

gusty mirage
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loser

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bro

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buy my cards already

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or stop harassing me

bleak sky
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(respectfully)

gusty mirage
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anyway

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make sure I'm inside of it pls

bleak sky
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no

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you get to stay outside

gusty mirage
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weirdge

oak sky
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bro someone in our raid said we should ban anyone under 25

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that kills a tank and like 5 dps

gusty mirage
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bro

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someone in your raid sounds cringe as fuck

oak sky
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hes joking

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hes cool

gusty mirage
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nah

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YOU'RE cool

oak sky
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brotha

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you sim like

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me dps

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on outlaw

oak sky
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you suck

bleak sky
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love the wep too

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can't get any to drop

oak sky
bleak sky
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fuck you how bout that huh

oak sky
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that was my vault this week

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best drop i got

bleak sky
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next week i'll get a pogstorm

spice spire
bleak sky
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for sure

oak sky
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i havent enchanted the outlaw weapon

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i havent specced outlaw

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dub city

glass tulip
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W

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lords Deadge

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2 necro sin rogues on kill pull

oak sky
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we had venthyr outlaw

glass tulip
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I would have had I ever touched that spec before

bleak sky
glass tulip
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I won't before CE

bleak sky
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First time playing outlaw was on jailer yesterday

glass tulip
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and maybe not after either since I'm most likely main swapping Sadge

bleak sky
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Main swapping for what

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Expac is over

zinc frost
bleak sky
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Was ok

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Some good pulls, some bad pulls

glass tulip
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and unless there is a really crazy shakeup to get good before dragonflight

bleak sky
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Bruv season 4 isn't real

vestal wren
bleak sky
timid cloud
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No cap, if I only played one toon, I think I’d be bored. I’m out here making my own content with different classes.

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Must…hold…strong…for…mounts…

sharp stump
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With that stuff in the pins about the vendetta overhang logic, using that weak aura, rupt and gar light up after vendetta has finished and the bleeds are in pandemic range

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Do I wait for them to fall off as they're the snapshotted ones before reapplying?

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or get close to 0 basically, rather than say rupt at 7 seconds or so

timid cloud
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You let them go all of the way off because they’re empowered.

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The only one that doesn’t matter is CT

sharp stump
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sweet, figured as much

glass tulip
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@timid cloud I got ivory cloud serpent today

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Looks pretty slick with my white slut mog

oak sky
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yo thats dope

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mounts are cool i just dont do them

glass tulip
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I don't either unless it's by accident

oak sky
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ive actually done a few runs of sha of anger

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just dont have the patience to do it every week every character

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few kills i guess you would say

brazen zodiac
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one day agreon

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one day

zinc frost
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I try mount farming but then I hearth halfway through because I only use the one mount SMH

sullen torrent
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if my cds are looking like this I just hold everything for flag right ?

cloud reef
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Would you shiv in that scenario?

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I remember cev said once to hold it only if flag is up in 8 seconds or less

worn sorrel
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When you do m+ opener, when do you shiv?

timid cloud
ebon notch
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If vanish was not up you could shiv

cloud reef
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So with vanish it’s worth holding to align everything up for the big crit window

cloud reef
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Ty ty

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Going to be doing some sin on future reclears so trying to be in the know

burnt latch
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Dont listen to daps

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he is holding some secret tech

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where he gets 2x more shivs

ebon notch
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!ban @burnt latch

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Have you gotten your free beer voucher after being hit by a car yet

pseudo hamlet
burnt latch
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nope insurance dont believe me

worn sorrel
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I ll try that ty

ebon notch
burnt latch
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yes but the guy i showed it to im pretty sure he isnt a doctor

brazen zodiac
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oh

fleet imp
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Gamers, might be a dumb question but

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How many seconds is the pandemic for rapture and garrote during vendetta window?

hollow escarp
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half

fleet imp
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Something like 8 and 4 is possible?

brazen zodiac
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can check pins for precise timing

fleet imp
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Didnt find it on pins

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Only the wa

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Or I am blind

hollow escarp
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garrote is 2.7

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rupture 3.6

gusty mirage
vestal wren
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you got a dr title?

fleet imp
gusty mirage
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I have a doctorate degree

burnt latch
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hmm

gusty mirage
burnt latch
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i feel violated

vestal wren
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nice

fleet imp
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Been doing it wrong all the time since my WA for sin still has the normal logic behind dead

gusty mirage
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I'm a doctor of old words written down by old people after they heard people argue for hours

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it's pretty much the same thing

hollow escarp
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too lazy to update wa

gusty mirage
fleet imp
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I am scared to update it

hollow escarp
zinc frost
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I use Luxthos and just changed the garrote/rupture ones over and it works fine

gusty mirage
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its okay man

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same

fleet imp
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Gonna end up in a sleep deprivation to fix it

gusty mirage
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hi friend @brazen zodiac

brazen zodiac
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i need a doctor

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i heard u were a doctor..

fleet imp
gusty mirage
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and be good to go

zinc frost
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Yep, works like a charm

fleet imp
hollow escarp
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add another condition to change pandemic if vendetta buff is active on target

zinc frost
hollow escarp
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make sure to tick Own Only

fleet imp
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You are overstimating my skill

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It took me 2 days to learn how to move the combo points from the default to under the character in a smaller size

zinc frost
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Well, your options are to have a go at changing the WA or be a gamer like Kojack

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both good options

fleet imp
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Gamer time feels less stressful already

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I would 100% fuck it up if I put hands on conditions

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The vendetta pandemic could have just explained my green parse on rygelon

zinc frost
fleet imp
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Felt better to appoint the issue to not having FS trinket

viscid spear
burnt latch
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Im scared

viscid spear
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You should be

cerulean nest
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any recs on progging pantheon as sin or sub? I'm equally comfortable on both

empty hinge
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i'd recommend necro sin

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outlaw is also nice

cerulean nest
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cool. and I have earthbreakers, sigil, cache and phial.

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not sure the best way to sim for the fight

gusty mirage
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Just blast, either way you’ll have a miserable time that fight is legit dogshit for us

cerulean nest
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hoping it'll be quick and painless lol

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we did halondrus before coming over here

gusty mirage
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I'd rather do skolex, xymox and halondrus 500 times in a row than do pantheon once

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such an awful fight

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it's by far the worst fight in the raid

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and it's not even close

vestal wren
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the fight just has no nice rhyme, it is just a bunch of mechanics thrown together

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wonder what will be the worse fight in season 4

cerulean nest
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also Necro with zold or nah

subtle tundra
gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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what can i say, i do a bit of spinnin'

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tonight sigil, tomorrow the WORLD

gusty mirage
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HUGE

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Varas is ascending to a better class and more damage

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We’ll miss you friend SAD

subtle tundra
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😔

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ill always try to make assa work, friend!

gusty mirage
vestal wren
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what about slg?

gusty mirage
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Maybe they finally fixed it

zinc frost
craggy oak
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Kt by far,only played council as dk so was fun to pad

ebon notch
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with more padding

ebon notch
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pantheon is barely a fight anymore

viscid spear
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Fatescribe

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🙀

bleak sky
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fatescribe was fine though

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"fine"

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nowhere near as shit as council/KT/SLG

viscid spear
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In a smart group sure

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But my Alliance group was terrible at learning mechanics.

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We'd have to see a fight a dozen times to learn one mechanic.

gusty mirage
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Would’ve been great

gusty mirage
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And council was just a terrible fight

viscid spear
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I can't wait to do Painsmith again

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I love mechanics that involve sweeping across the room, idk why

ebon notch
gusty mirage
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So?

ebon notch
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our reclear of pantheon was 6 mins

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i cant think of a single fight thats 9+ mins long that i enjoy

viscid spear
craggy oak
gusty mirage
ebon notch
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getting 200k frost set crits and insta pushing the boss was BIS

gusty mirage
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“Stop dps”

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Frost shards: hold my beer

strange python
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But I was warlock then and having to find time to plant was not fun. Also soul rot only hitting Denny and both cabalists if he was in the exact right position sucked

timid cloud
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If you didn’t like Sire, there’s something wrong with you.

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One of the best designed fights since KJ

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Only part I think people will agree to dislike is the massive lag in p1 that everyone went down to slideshow frames / lagged out on when you got all of your souls out.

strange python
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You should try sire as a warlock.

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Also, opinions are opinions. I thought the spam of adds causing massive lag in p1 was bad design. I thought night hunters were bad design, I thought the platforms in p2 requiring a gateway were bad design

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I feel like if nathria's bosses weren't set in a cool aesthetic people wouldn't rate it so highly. Most of nathria was horrible.

cerulean nest
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how do i sim for pantheon last phase? patchwerk 4 bosses but whats the health APL thing?

gusty mirage
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Wait no

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Wrong one

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enemy_initial_health_percentage=xx

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There ya go @cerulean nest

cerulean nest
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sweet tyyy

gusty mirage
cerulean nest
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🙂

bleak sky
cerulean nest
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header?

gusty mirage
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Gotta do it in advanced or expertmode

hollow river
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Other than Council

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Never experienced the later bosses on mythic, but would’ve loved to. Though I hear slg was a shit show

glass tulip
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Rng fight and required DPS holds

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Kind of weird

zinc frost
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who doesn't love holding dps feelsdeadman

strange python
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I thought shriekwing was okay, huntsman was a great second boss, hungering was too complicated without the WA and too simple with it, inerva and artificer we're shit-tier, sun king is a bottom 5 boss all time, council is a bottom 5 boss all time, slg is a bottom 5 boss all time, sludgefist was fun and Denny was okay

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It was. But I think seeds being run out are a bad mechanic

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I'm generally against having mechanics that force a portion of the raid to not have any fun and to not get to hit the boss. Same thing on new artificer and the night hunters on panth

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Ugh this is a rwf opinion

uneven hamlet
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most of nathria was horrible but denatrius was top tier, when u got past friking p1 lag

strange python
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Yeah idgaf about stream moments. I care about playing the game

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If I had my way I'd remove the rwf and I'd ban twitch entirely

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Except after the first kill it's never a complicated mechanic and immediately becomes a frustrating way to make someone stop playing for however long

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Many CE raiders spend more time on farm than they do on prog for most bosses

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Maybe if fights weren't so god damn awful in farm people wouldn't hate the thing that takes up the most time, and nathria's a peak example

glass tulip
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@gusty mirage you made it to wow highlights pepelaugh

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I swear, every mc'd druid becomes a rank 1 pvper with typhoon

timid cloud
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Shriek was just not a good fight, worse intermission than Painsmith, because at least at Painsmith I was entertained/distracted by the mechanics.

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Another take, people loved Sludgefist, just didn’t like wiping on it.

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Great Sin fight.

strange python
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shriek good

viscid spear
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Painsmith BiS

glass tulip
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Painsmith was the most fun fight in a hot minute

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Until they took out intermission balls so we had to phase with 0 CP

ebon notch
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@balmy condor

timid cloud
ebon notch
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whispyr

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what it mean

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why is sim gud

bleak sky
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I have an insane idea daps

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it might be because it does more damage

glass tulip
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Can someone review my Necro lords classyblobthink

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Why am I bad besides bleed uptime, obviously

ebon notch
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?

glass tulip
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back in march, not you specifically

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but you are on raid frames yep

gusty mirage
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LOL

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bro

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I was fucking dying

gusty mirage
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insider info

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@glass tulip I was already youtube famous 2 years ago tho:

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rode double rogue to 2200 mmr while he was hammered

glass tulip
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LOL

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don't spam our log away for review 🥲

gusty mirage
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Mavverick Log Review

hollow river
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We request a #thread mister community figure sir

gusty mirage
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Way ahead you chief

hollow river
gusty mirage
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you think this is my first rode-o?

zinc frost
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@hollow river @glass tulip look at you two cuties raiding together happy_holiday_pepe

hollow river
gusty mirage
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nah mavv gets it first

hollow river
gusty mirage
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bro I don't remember the last time I did a log review

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and you want me to do TWO?

hollow river
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LOL

gusty mirage
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oh god

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its lords too

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what the fuck

hollow river
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(I’m a trash can on jah)

glass tulip
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I am a heroic venthyr parsing andy

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when necro comes into play I go dumb

hollow river
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Spam SBS 4head 2ez

glass tulip
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PI's were kinda wacky

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our priests can be rather... absent minded when it comes to using them like we ask them to

gusty mirage
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you playing marileth?

glass tulip
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bonesmith

bleak sky
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rip WCL

glass tulip
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I had a real hard time with kevin

gusty mirage
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whatchu mean

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kevin's kinda just there

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shiv into giga bonespikes during swarm

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and pray you don't get boogered

glass tulip
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kevin uptime*

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that seemed like an optimization people talked about a lot and I never bothered to learn it

gusty mirage
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meh

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who gives a fuck

glass tulip
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I am also literally allergic to pressing fleshcraft

ebon notch
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@glass tulip I'm gonna tear you a new butthole

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Then look at your log

gusty mirage
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bro

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don't bully mavv

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he's good people

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wtf

glass tulip
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bully me I can take it

gusty mirage
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this log review is going great

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what a dogshit website

hollow river
glass tulip
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actually 0 casts on 75 pulls

hollow river
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I tried to at least remember before pull

glass tulip
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and if I did it was accident bc I tried to door of shadows

hollow river
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But you started getting tilted with the ready checks omegalul

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Lack of ready checks*

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There would be a pull timer, and I’d still be on the ground dead

glass tulip
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20 second pull timer double the time needed to get food buff 2ez

hollow river
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Are you down to go over a couple things before raid?

glass tulip
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yeah I am gonna cook lunch now and then im free before 6

hollow river
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Ah

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I should be home around 5:30

glass tulip
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that's fine, I'll just be in jailers. dont need vc though so I can talk on the side

hollow river
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Sounds good 👍

mint valve
#

!pandemic

prisma monolithBOT
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

subtle tundra
#

guys im not washed up woohoo this is clearly me playing as ethical as possible on anduyni

kindred rapids
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Teach me your ways

subtle tundra
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prepull eh, chi burst at 2 sec pull timer

sweet zealot
#

!cache

prisma monolithBOT
#

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

gusty mirage
#

there's no need to play ethical on that boss as a rogue

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PAD HOMIE PAD

timid cloud
#

Go ahead & let me see the poison katar

gusty mirage
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I said pad

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not throw

timid cloud
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Go ahead & drop the log Varas…

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Trying to see somethin’…

subtle tundra
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i do a bit caching

viscid spear
#

logs 💬

timid cloud
gusty mirage
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steal the warlocks' damage

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do gods work

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and if they ask you to funnel

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be like funnel this

ebon notch
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i got rank 3 boss dam

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couldnt pad on shit

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fucking

winter gale
#

One off topic question...how long until this CE ends aproximately?

ebon notch
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dingdongs

winter gale
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2 months?

hollow river
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Decent guess is 6-8 weeks

winter gale
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Short tier tbh

hollow river
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I’m kinda hoping for another 10-12 weeks

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Yeah idk. 9.2.5 just came out so honestly

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It could easily be until September

winter gale
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Y, I heard something about late september but its only speculation or assumption

timid cloud
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Cope

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Tiers last like 25 weeks minimum usually.

hollow river
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I mean

timid cloud
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Because we say it in raids when people grief.

hollow river
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September would be on point then ya?

timid cloud
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“Week X & still not knowing what’s going on.”

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What week is it now, now that I think about it?

hollow river
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No idea

timid cloud
hollow river
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10-12ish?

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Or 15ish maybe

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When did 9.2 hit

ebon notch
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@hollow river why you did no damage on lords

hollow river
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Didn’t prog it in my last guild

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And haven’t played necro since Nathria omegalul

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Where’s my review logs

ebon notch
subtle tundra
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another 285 on folyr 🤤

hollow river
ebon notch
hollow river
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You just called out my dps peepomad

ebon notch
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and apply to yourself

hollow river
ebon notch
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you literally did the same opener

hollow river
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😦

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I’m pretty sure I fucked up more than he did throughout the fight though

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Was focusing way more on staying safe from terroristic green circles

timid cloud
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Such muscle memory to do x3 garrote in that situation.

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Gotta remember I don’t have Shrouded, I miss those days…

hollow river
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I just didn’t think ambush would matter at all

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Compared to getting SBS up

worn sorrel
#

In ST should I do garrote ambush? (M+ build)

timid cloud
#

Yeah same.

gusty mirage
#

It’s been 2 years starege

spice spire
#

9.0 was announced over 2 years ago

light pasture
#

hey guys

hollow river
light pasture
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with the logic of forcing dots at the end of vendetta, do you still refresh with pandemic or does that overwrite the stronger dot from the end of vendetta?

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if that makes sense

light pasture
hollow river
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You mean after vendetta falls off?

spice spire
hollow river
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You wait for those forced bleeds to almost fall off entirely

spice spire
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Wait

hollow river
#

At least I always refresh at like ~1sec left

spice spire
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Force before vendetta falls off, wait until the shotted bleed is falling off to refresh post vendetta

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Notrickz and I are on two different points starege

hollow river
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For those forced overhang bleeds

light pasture
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I think NoTrickz knows what i mean

hollow river
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You mean the overhang bleeds ya?

light pasture
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the forced dots at the end of Vendetta, you want them to basically expire before reapplying

spice spire
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Yes

light pasture
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ok thanks

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probably a tiny difference but was just curious

hollow river
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Yeah I wouldn’t force yourself too hard on it

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Depending on your exact rotation it can be impossible to refresh at the very last second because you’d end up holding energy and combo points and wasting a GCD

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Sometimes I send an envenom and let them fall for a second and then reapply

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Not sure if that’s the correct way to go about that though

ebon notch
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whisp will know better

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so you can refresh at like 2 or 1.5

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and not lose a lot

mint valve
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do you go zoldycks for m+?

hollow river
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zold is prob fine for high fortified keys

strange python
#

hey i got versa/mastery wrists 278 and unity 291 waist/crit haste.
i have a crit/haste waist 268 and was thinking about to swap wrists on 291 crit/Haste to get more main stats, but raidbots says i should´t do this becuase it sims less dps

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can sb explain me that ?

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that is my current gear

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and raidbot says i should go for all gems and entchants mastery on the rings

oak sky
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Whatever sims better will make you do more damage

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Crit and haste are our best stats but really mastery and vers arent far behind

strange python
#

if i look on raider.io the best 3 assa rouges they got much more crit than me and less mastery that makes no sense for me

balmy condor
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People have different gear

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It be like that

ebon notch
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@balmy condor you didnt respond to my earlier question

balmy condor
#

You didn’t respond to my nudes

ebon notch
strange python
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how i turn this off ?

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my geforce is that not

fickle herald
indigo ginkgo
#

did same thing change ?
my char asked a lot of hast and drit and now just asks for mastery ?

oak sky
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Just means you got to a point where a little bit of mastery gives you more damage

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Stats are a balance

knotty heron
#

Hey quick question, may be dumb... what is the reason for crafting Unity on Wrists vs Cape or something?

oak sky
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Mainstat

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Technically head legs and chests give you the most stats but since theyre tier slots its easier to recommend something that doesnt get filled up by that

knotty heron
#

ah wrist gives more than cloak?

fickle herald
indigo ginkgo
true pelican
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probably a 30 sec pull timer with mfd snd

fickle herald
#

Ok yeah, assumed he used it prepull but couldnt see it

oak sky
kindred heron
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btw

oak sky
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Ill have to go back and do better when we reclear again

spare flame
#

anyone around thats experienced mythic anduin as assa?

glass tulip
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Fire away, pretty much everyone that has played it is in this channel lol

oak sky
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Was sub on kill but i have 200 wipes of prog xp

frail birch
#

I read the dungeon journal hmu

viscid spear
balmy condor
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L bozo

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you're cringe + you play alliance + no bitches + you sim higher than me + I'm zdps

woeful meteor
#

wtf did you do to get so unlucky with loot this patch

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and 249 Melandrus is kinda bad too I guess

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but atleast you got it

balmy condor
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I played sub all patch

balmy condor
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not that my sub gear is much higher

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recrafting unity

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is L

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you can't make me recraft

drifting cloud
#

you have a few weeks

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to think it over

woeful meteor
#

My Sin finally surpassed sub yesterday with Vault 🙂

drifting cloud
#

wait so that 249 AA ring is actually from this rotation just not upgraded

ebon notch
balmy condor
ebon notch
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and upgrade that phial

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jesus h christ

drifting cloud
#

oh I didnt even see the phial lmao

balmy condor
#

I don't like opening the game

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so I don't

drifting cloud
#

anyways assa slaps on jailer no cap

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everyone padding on adds and mcs you pad on BOSS

ebon notch
#

with cache

balmy condor
#

cache is cringe

drifting cloud
#

I did 29k dps in p4

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with no externals or wft

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seems decent

ebon notch
#

the more dps you do

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i only got to do like 22k

drifting cloud
#

yeah but your kill is before the change

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with bugged hp :p

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we killed resonably fast for new strat, 3s after 2nd frontal soak

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its just a really good kill timer in general for assa

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and 3 stack going into p4

ebon notch
drifting cloud
#

oh ok sorry, well still its totally different scenario

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youd blast way more p4 with how its done now

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like you just preimmune 1st torment with cloak and if you dont get bombs you can have 100% boss uptime until it dies

woeful cipher
#

not sure if this is a silly question but, do we FOK during LODs aoe damage amp phase?

drifting cloud
#

you dont

woeful cipher
#

thank you

balmy condor
#

@ebon notch your fault I died

ebon notch
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:(

balmy condor
#

and I'm fucking inting by being like 0.3 seconds late to things because I'm trying to get an envenom off

bleak sky
#

jjuice hharder

balmy condor
#

no

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we play safe

drifting cloud
#

juice

balmy condor
#

my raid lead actually starting to get irritated

bleak sky
#

i'm sure it's not you fucking up

ebon notch
drifting cloud
#

are you melee heavy whispyr

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like I think when youre 100 pulls in you should try playing p1 and p2 like you would on a kill

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and dps matters (until they nerf his hp next time) you really dont wanna get 2nd heal absorb in p3

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but I dunno unless you got like 8-9 melee with healers included I feel like this fight is so chill as rogue

bleak sky
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bruv

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getting back left bomb is SO CRINGE

drifting cloud
#

oh yeah that is the worst by far

balmy condor
#

7 melee, mistweaver, hpal

drifting cloud
#

ok thats

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cringe territory

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or well thats already in cringe section, would be pretty hard to be worse off

balmy condor
#

we had 5

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and then we had a guy come back

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so it was 6

drifting cloud
#

theres ZERO 8 melee (dps) kills

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even 7 theres less than like 20

balmy condor
#

and then "oh windfury though because two warrior"

drifting cloud
#

and I doubt anyone freaking ran 3 melee healers here

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ah yes the 250 dps wft for fury

balmy condor
#

is resto melee heal

drifting cloud
#

literally worse than most tanks

ebon notch
balmy condor
#

idk how shamans work

drifting cloud
#

nah resto chills

balmy condor
#

idk it's just real weirdge sometimes

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I'm getting fucked by all sorts of weird shit

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like I tried to los but then because the pillar is huge I ended up hitting an invisible wall and smashing my face into it and then missing

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it's just

ebon notch
#

the fight should be getting scripted for you at this many pulls

brazen zodiac
#

LOL

balmy condor
#

so much dumb shit

brazen zodiac
#

caps

brazen zodiac
#

gl whisp

balmy condor
#

it is

ebon notch
#

D:

balmy condor
#

but I'm trying to juice

ebon notch
#

what

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yeah when its scripted

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thats when you can start juicing

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cause you know when and where everything is happening

balmy condor
#

I hate you

bleak sky
#

everything everywhere all at once?

ebon notch
#

i notice it

bleak sky
#

i'll step on your line bud

ebon notch
#

kek

ebon notch
drifting cloud
#

but yeah I mean daps is right tho

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im not gonna say with 2 more melee its probably insanely worse but we would just spread for torments same way after a while

ebon notch
#

i did the fight with 7 melee

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its completely doable

balmy condor
#

also our tanks getting smashed for like 160k with an auto randomly

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is not helping

drifting cloud
#

did you have melee healers daps

ebon notch
#

thats them failing a tank swap im pretty sure

ebon notch
drifting cloud
#

yeah so thats 1 less guy than whispyr has starege

balmy condor
#

nah they just get smashed

bleak sky
ebon notch
#

but they shouldnt be getting oneshot unless its a tank swap fail

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especially post nerf right?

bleak sky
#

even on heroic he was gaping my bussy

drifting cloud
#

😳

ebon notch
#

but with jpc we had 7

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and with jpcs replacement we had 7

drifting cloud
#

yeah but 1 melee healer instead of 2

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unless the mw is afk outside of melee

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thats gonna be our rekills, mw was sitting

ebon notch
#

still 7 melee in total

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i dont understand what you're saying

drifting cloud
#

whispyr has 7 melee dps and 2 healers

ebon notch
#

so he has 9 melee?

drifting cloud
#

yep

ebon notch
#

ok but thats not 7

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thats 9

drifting cloud
#

well I thought you meant you had 7+hpal

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we had 6+hpal

ebon notch
#

anyone who doesnt count melee healers in melee hasnt been fucked by one before

drifting cloud
#

so yeah 9 sounds like NO BUENO

balmy condor
#

yeah I have 9 melee with healers

ebon notch
#

anything remotely tight should have the healers move out tho

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so it shouldnt be a problem

balmy condor
#

yeah

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SHOULD

bleak sky
#

THEIR HEALING

#

HPS METERS stonk

ebon notch
#

@balmy condor show overhealing

balmy condor
#

I actually brought up that the shaman needs to get out of melee

bleak sky
#

shaman melee

drifting cloud
#

why the fuck is the shaman in melee

#

JESUS CHRIST

balmy condor
#

and he was like "WELL I NEED TO HEAL SO WHAT? YOURE GONNA DIE? YOU WANNA DIE? YOU CAN DIE THATS FINE I JUST WONT HEAL"

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so I was like aight bet

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guess it's 10 melee now

drifting cloud
#

see you in 300 pulls

#

resto big chilling

balmy condor
#

yeh I mean he doesn't alway sdo it

bleak sky
drifting cloud
#

I never noticed him in melee tbh so wasnt an issue 😛

balmy condor
#

your comp is like

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very similar

ebon notch
balmy condor
#

1 less warrior, disc for rdruid

balmy condor
ebon notch
#

because we had healers complaining

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but they were all doing 40% overhealing

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so it shut htem up

balmy condor
#

yeah def works

ebon notch
#

i mean it does

bleak sky
#

only works if they listen

ebon notch
#

if you show them that almost 50% of all their healing

#

is being wasted

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they will be forced to shut up

drifting cloud
#

yeah dmg on jailer is super predictable

ebon notch
#

ryler what guild you in btw

drifting cloud
#

theres 1 or 2 bombs if someone misses the hole it can just kill 3 people but that will just naturally stop happening with more pulls

#

uhm pescorus, just random 2day guild that did a few extra raids this tier because now we dont raid for 2 weeks starege

#

so todays was last raid regardless if jailer died or not

bleak sky
#

jailer is dead for you already right?

#

or prog still?>

drifting cloud
#

killed it 6h ago

bleak sky
ebon notch
#

i thought you already killed

drifting cloud
#

bro how I was asking you like 10 days ago

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when we had less than 150 wipes

ebon notch
#

idk i thought you were asking me to compare or smth

#

im so confused on god

drifting cloud
#

nah it died today

ebon notch
#

gz my guy

#

did you pump?

drifting cloud
#

sure in p4, other than that not really starege

ebon notch
#

how was the p3 transition post nerf

drifting cloud
#

its nice because you can do it like 3 different ways depending on your overall dmg

#

we did 2nd frontal soak into hold dps for 5s into 3 stack into p4

#

but you can just go p4 before 2nd frontal with good dmg, or atleast before 3rd chains right after

ebon notch
#

hold dps

#

im hoping we just

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astro blast him to the fucking moon

drifting cloud
#

its because you have to move to the blood

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with your dmg you push before for sure

ebon notch
#

igy

drifting cloud
#

but hey 235 wipes

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so cant complain

ebon notch
#

better than me

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KEKW

bleak sky
#

and 9 days a week of raiding