assassination

[ebon notch]

2 months ago

is still relevant

how lmao

[oak sky]

no idea

[ebon notch]

gj tho

[oak sky]

wasnt it like 20k

[ebon notch]

no lmao

16.2

[oak sky]

my 2nd sigil/pot was scuffed

i got a few secs of them but not with cds

[burnt latch]

Ye the boss always dies on that fight after that 5 min shield

Hp buff when

[brazen zodiac]

right its tuesday that time of the week

[burnt latch]

[brazen zodiac]

hows ur mental

[oak sky]

good

[brazen zodiac]

i just inted on xymog

[candid badger]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/sargeras/Yoshlx Juicer signet of malandrus

[brazen zodiac]

thats good any scuffed pulls yet

[oak sky]

nah

[brazen zodiac]

f

[oak sky]

i mean vg was a 99 top 10 range and sausage was r2

[bleak sky]

bro

disgusting?

[brazen zodiac]

pog

[oak sky]

thats the guy above me

[bleak sky]

oh ok

[brazen zodiac]

i would've gotten 99 on xymog but a beetle flew in through the window and scared me

[bleak sky]

i cant read

[brazen zodiac]

its cursed

[bleak sky]

im mid prison

serving time

[oak sky]

bro aint no way

xymox r1 is still up for grabs

i will NOT dc today

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[ebon notch]

bro

agreons gear

is fucking gross btw

he was sitting at a 15.8k sim like

[oak sky]

not like yours bud

[ebon notch]

"bro why is my sim so bad"

and he has like 8 278 pieces IN HIS BAG

i redo his sim

16.2k

[oak sky]

literally 2 278s bruh

[ebon notch]

your gear is better than mine bro

[oak sky]

and it was 16.1k

[brazen zodiac]

whats ur gear

link

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pyzsk7PdawicNwqFCzuVjt

[ebon notch]

shut ur whore mouth

[oak sky]

thats not realistic

that has theotar

[ebon notch]

did i ask?

you will sim high

and you will enjoy it

[bleak sky]

ok and?

just proc it right

tf?

[ebon notch]

ikr

trolling this hard should be illegal

[bleak sky]

smh my head

[brazen zodiac]

huh

[bleak sky]

this is why he doesn't get rank 1s

[brazen zodiac]

me next daps

find me a sweet 300 dps

[ebon notch]

equip items

easy peasy

[brazen zodiac]

wow

big damage

[oak sky]

gimme a sec

ill link my top gear with the vault pieces i havent taken yet

[burnt latch]

The big sim off of 2022

ill vault 500 dps tomorrow and show you all how its done

[oak sky]

lmao

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bbbHh72zYifTQkumFnhAEA

now....

if i can get the gloves off lihuvim today

even more

[ebon notch]

i dont think i can actually loot anything from GV thats an upgrade

except for socket

oh wait im stupid

mythic chest/helm

[oak sky]

what about rygelon loot

or lords loot

[burnt latch]

Ye pretty much same for me I need raid vaults

Cant wait to get back to reclearing

Need that mythic cache asap

[oak sky]

rn i have like 2 upgrades from vault for where im at in the raid

[burnt latch]

🪓 stronk

[oak sky]

skolex cloak and lihuvim gloves

everything else is on later bosses

[burnt latch]

I have loads tbh

Havent really been blessed with a lot of loot

[ebon notch]

YOU THINK I HAVE A RAID VAULT

[oak sky]

oh

you meant m+ loot

yeah makes sense

[burnt latch]

Raid vaults are a myth

[oak sky]

i still get one next week

not sure about the week after

[ebon notch]

we've been extending

for ages

and theyre talking about a big break

after we kill jailer

I WANT MY MYTHIC SIGIL

[burnt latch]

Dude every guild seems to do that

[oak sky]

i wouldnt be shocked if we hold our extend until we get an anduin rekill

[burnt latch]

2-3 weeks break after prog

Im like

NOW THE FUN BEGINGS

[oak sky]

i mean this is a raid to do a break tbh

its loooong

[burnt latch]

Yeah no I totally understand

I just dont need a break, but yeah this tiers looong

But actually it was interesting in the wowhead article

[oak sky]

i definitely didnt mind going back to early bosses after sylv died tho

[burnt latch]

CN horde hall of fame closed 41 days after the raid released. This tier it was 45 days

[glass tulip]

anduin is giving me bad thoughts

[burnt latch]

So its actually not been as long as people maybe assumed for most guilds

[oak sky]

its because of 2leggo and tier

prob

the natural nerf worked

ig

[burnt latch]

Yeah idd

A lot of the early bosses were really fast kills aswell

Where as council, sludge, slg and sire were all kinda long prog bosses for even most top 100 guilds

[oak sky]

i mean those are all the late bosses

thats like comparing to halondrus anduin rygelon jailer

[ebon notch]

bro slg

god damn

[burnt latch]

SLG next season

Actual hype

STOP DPS BOYS

[oak sky]

said no one ever

[burnt latch]

Cant wait to blow up the raid cuz my achilles clipped a wicked blade

[oak sky]

so funny my raid leaders playing ret today

[gusty mirage]

Sounds hilarious

[burnt latch]

I heard some ret lore

That they sandbagged blizz to get aura buffs

[oak sky]

hes a

wait

you guys cant read this can you

say something if you can read this

holy

[burnt latch]

And realised that one of their leggos is actually good

[oak sky]

my disc was bugged

[gusty mirage]

[burnt latch]

LMAO

[gusty mirage]

Nice internet bro

[oak sky]

wtf

[gusty mirage]

You got AOL?

[oak sky]

spectrum

[gusty mirage]

So yeah

The aol of cable companies

[oak sky]

ill call up the university of california to get better internet

[gusty mirage]

I’ll send them a demand letter on your behalf

[oak sky]

thanks

dude idk if we can finish reclear

this is getting very sussy

[gusty mirage]

“Your shitty choice of ISP is causing me emotional distress because I am unable to discuss topics from the game World of Warcraft with my friend Andrew”

“Pls give me monies and upgrade just his internet ty”

[oak sky]

can i get a nodders

[bleak sky]

damn

almost worth hitting the filter

[ebon notch]

[gusty mirage]

I can just mute you now if you want

[bleak sky]

please

[ebon notch]

getting the varas treatment

[gusty mirage]

It won’t end anduin suffering

Unlucky

[oak sky]

is varas back yet

[gusty mirage]

Yes

As of 20 minutes ago

[oak sky]

he renamed thanks

[ebon notch]

james said he'd play assa on jailer btw

[gusty mirage]

He sure did

Nice

[ebon notch]

we gotta see how he does

[gusty mirage]

I was going to play sin on jailer anyway

[ebon notch]

same

[oak sky]

me too!

[cerulean nest]

any IQD gamers or is it largely sim bait?

[burnt latch]

Its good if your healers are struggling late into the fight

[cerulean nest]

noted lmao

[oak sky]

its good but theres some better trinkets

[cerulean nest]

just looking at droptomizer switching from sub thinking that id have to do a lot of gear catchup but there are like barely any upgrades on sin

iqd was the one slight standout

in m+ I mean *

[bleak sky]

we're so close to getting to p3

[oak sky]

of what

again

andy?

or rygie

[bleak sky]

andy

[oak sky]

[bleak sky]

i wish it were rygelon

rygelon looks like a banger

[deft vault]

Andy is such a fucjing shit fight cant wait till im done with it

[ebon notch]

ryg is a lot of fun

so much minmaxing

[bleak sky]

hopefully I'll have a 278 dagger by then

[gusty mirage]

Me too bro

[ebon notch]

ok well apparently im gagging for a 278 phial from weekly

and its only 10 dps higher than a mastery socket

[bleak sky]

gag on deez

[gusty mirage]

Anduin’s made you toxic

[ebon notch]

tru

[glass tulip]

anduin is making me want to kermit roof jump

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[gusty mirage]

Same

[ebon notch]

how many p1 wipes

[gusty mirage]

Too fucking many

[ebon notch]

was a huge learning curve for us

[bleak sky]

we're getting consistently to p2

but 2nd kingsmourne is a problem for some reason I cant figure out

it dies this week for sure but GOD DAMN

[gusty mirage]

Yeah we started getting to 1st kingsmourne in p2

And meh

Idk man nothing about this boss is particularly fun

[ebon notch]

2nd kingsmourne

is it cause of the adds?

i started kidneying both of the adds

just before kingsmourne finished

with the talent for 10% damage amp

[bleak sky]

yes

I am not going down anymore, they want me to pad upstairs

but every time someone got clipped by a star and ccs got fucked

[ebon notch]

we made it super clear

there were 2 paths that the stars could go

which were in between the adds behind him

[bleak sky]

behind him is where we keep the adds thhat break people out from downstairs

[ebon notch]

ah sry

i meant

ah

hard to describe

in front of him then i guess

but theres two clear lanes

[oak sky]

didnt get the gloves have to take them from vault now

[bleak sky]

I can see that

[ebon notch]

no sympathy for you

[bleak sky]

I think people are getting jittery that p3 is soon and things go south

[ebon notch]

do you want our log if it will help with positioning?

[bleak sky]

hmmmm

[oak sky]

alright

[bleak sky]

oh god

anduin replays are omega cringe

[kind turtle]

which tier slots do we craft for raid?

[brazen zodiac]

oh no

[brazen zodiac]

sure

[gusty mirage]

Does it come with tips on how to open your eyes?

If so, yes.

[ebon notch]

😛

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BYxbn2qWLmHwvXRG#fight=32&type=damage-done

here

[bleak sky]

sheesh

look at that DAMAGE

[gusty mirage]

Your destro lock should be ashamed

That’s like my warlock trying to do damage

It ain’t pretty

[bleak sky]

that dk is pretty aight

[gusty mirage]

Blackvneck has a better name than performance

Unlucky

@bleak sky check DMs

[bleak sky]

[glass tulip]

we lost so much time tonight

because one of our hunters showed up drunk

and just absolutely fucking trolled us for 3 hours

[gusty mirage]

Yikes man, that’s actually shit

Our DK quit the game

[oak sky]

bro thats not normal?

my raid leader is an alcoholic

[gusty mirage]

You have to be to raid lead tbh

I’d have a stroke if I was RL

[glass tulip]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BetterTallWeaselFreakinStinkin-Q5hlh95LH1_htfJg

I am the debuff on the right, after the pull I told the hunters they should move into boss so that we could have walked behind them

and he said "I was literally just coming up and [the DH] ran into me and I had literally no time to move"

and then

https://clips.twitch.tv/AggressiveAffluentShrimpDancingBaby-V8TLUOIOmXV9QoDy

I said "if you ninja pull I am disbanding the raid"
and it happens INSTANTLY

so i typed /afk and went to get water

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[rotund oak]

@limber lion https://www.wowhead.com/news/horde-hall-of-fame-for-sepulcher-of-the-first-ones-closing-at-the-end-of-this-327026 ''cough cough'' u were right

or maybe a week off,cant recall

[vestal wren]

haha true, but we might #comeback in season 4

[prisma laurel]

hey i finally got honored with the enlightened and just crafted my memory lego what should i socket my legos with? Crit or Haste?

[iron orchid]

you should sim that

use top gear with different gems, I'd even put mast gems to try

our stats are not limited to crit and haste

[prisma laurel]

what addon is the sim

[iron orchid]

SimulationCraft will help you copy a text string to help you with simming through the raidbots website

[prisma laurel]

thank you!

[gusty mirage]

!sim

I don't remember the command

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/how-to-sim-your-wow-character-a-guide-to-raidbots

[prisma laurel]

/sim?

[gusty mirage]

is a good guide

@iron orchid

[vestal wren]

!simguide maybe

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[iron orchid]

fuu >> oxi

facts

[gusty mirage]

crazy, the guy who coded the bot knows the commands?

[iron orchid]

[gusty mirage]

unheard of

[vestal wren]

ye, i can cheat and look all of the commands up ^^

[iron orchid]

ok nvm

not even funneh

[gusty mirage]

I'm watching kirbyau wipe to anduin to feel better about myself

[bleak sky]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[bleak sky]

smh my head

[gusty mirage]

I'm not going to mute you

you will suffer with me

[ebon notch]

Is he just as entertaining as before

His sylvanas was the stuff of legends

[bleak sky]

please i''m bbegging you

[ebon notch]

What

Oh my fuck

Ok gonna need to start viewing parties again

[gusty mirage]

for comparison

it's been kinda rough for my guild

[steel ridge]

socket would go on head first right?

like theres no 285 headpiece

so a 278 head is the safe choice, right?

[turbid scaffold]

What addon weakaura is this? TIA!

[limber lion]

neither, it's Warcraftlogs

[limber lion]

ya

[thin trout]

i got 278 phial in the GV yey, but i still have a 252 wep so i went for 278 dagger

[limber lion]

Gz

[balmy condor]

I recently updated !help so technically everyone can cheat

[vestal wren]

ah nice, i thought i added most of the stuff to it

i see, you made categories, gives a nice touch

[balmy condor]

There was a couple of spec specific ones missing too

That’s why I categorized tbh

[subtle tundra]

Exam done maybe I can snag that 10/30, it's that assa brain 🥰

[vestal wren]

👍

[balmy condor]

[ashen scroll]

Has there been enough logs/ time to know if sin is better on jailer?

Compared to sub*

[vestal wren]

both are fine, just play what you want

[late birch]

Can I turn my 278 shoulders into tier on my sim?

[ashen scroll]

Top gear

Click the plus sign on the item

[late birch]

Ah perfect thanks ❤️

[limber lion]

Both are great. Assa likely does more damage overall, but Sub has slightly bit more utility with double steps and vanishstrike

[twilit python]

you honestly really dont need double step

you can play fight perfectly fine without it

[ashen scroll]

I'll probably try both when i get there. Im looking for any reason to get off of sub for bosses lmao

[twilit python]

i would say sins probably better, i played sub cuz i have shit sin gear

probably slightly less mc damage as sin but way more boss damage

[ashen scroll]

The p4 buff is all secondary stats right? That'd favour sin more than sub

[twilit python]

also sub is cringe as fuck having to backstab that boss while having to be in front of him at parts

yeah p3 stats way favor sin

[ashen scroll]

P3 ye. Idk it sounds like fun

[vestal wren]

both sub/sin seem close enough to make both good options.
I like to put them both as strong specs instead of finding reasons why one is stronger

[twilit python]

yeah theyre both really close

honestly just play the spec you like the most playing 300 pulls on a spec you dont like will break you

like im actually so tilted with sub rn

having to 6 stack pv jailer while standing in front of him to soak azerite line is so frustrating

also the insane rng you get too

[ashen scroll]

Im just bored of sub. It's strong just really monotonous after 2 tiers

[vestal wren]

but neither of the tiers was a clear sub tier

cn was initially in fav. of outlaw, then later a sin tier after the buffs

[ashen scroll]

Yeah the rng is insane. Today on lihuvim me and another rogue had a 40 shadow strike difference

[vestal wren]

sanctum was "play what you want" with all 3 close

[ashen scroll]

I only started playing rogue during sanct farm, but it was so long that i felt like an entire tier

[vestal wren]

this tier is mostly a "sub tier" because sylvanas daggers did put it early on in a strong position
while sin got a bad reputation from requiring 4p to peform well

i would put sin/sub as specs that are on par, sin could even be assumed slightly better because it still performs well on fights like lords

[limber lion]

I've been saying since day 1 of this patch that Assa is overall the better spec, but I'm also slightly biased

[twilit python]

sub is trash bro you're literally walking into a casino every single pull

[limber lion]

Pretty much playing with a good Sub rogue on the side at the same time gives you good indication as to how the specs play

Don't think I've been below Push on any boss.

[hollow dirge]

Even if it’s on par numbers wise, it’s much more fun to play, so assa wins 🤩

[limber lion]

Yeh jist play what you like

Both are good

[vestal wren]

if specs are close in output, it is always like this

having 200 or 300 dps differences will usually not end up as a deal breaker

i am with you cev. i had the assumption that sin will be slightly better long term

i still think the reliance on the tier set did build a bad perception for the spec early on

[subtle tundra]

shadowstep isnt utility, its a luxury lol

the only time i've found myself needing a 2nd shadowstep was when i misplayed

[twilit python]

honestly bro 2 shadowsteps is a fucking trap

[subtle tundra]

which was like twice in 200 pulls

[twilit python]

like ive died a few pulls due to not having shadowstep when i actually needed it cuz i just started shadowstepping everything

[vestal wren]

double step can be nice depending on the encounter

[bleak sky]

gigachad

also varas: bomb the raid

[vestal wren]

its rly nice on sausage

[subtle tundra]

parry my flag, bitch

any warrior vaults

[vestal wren]

is phial good on warrior?

[subtle tundra]

no, but it is on assa

and now i have it on 2 chars

[ashen scroll]

I refuse to pull desuaugne with double step its op

[vestal wren]

in context of jailer, you don't need it that often

[ashen scroll]

I did every jailer kill(H) as sin and it felt fine, just had to use step wisely

Also fuck that bosses pathing between the holes

[vestal wren]

i found double step quite useful on our last heroic run

but i also don't think that our tanks do a good job optimizing for melee dps

[subtle tundra]

lol and i got 278 ruby on mage

[ashen scroll]

Arcane dream

[subtle tundra]

not wrong

maybe

i've tried fire and didnt like it

0 dps outside of combust is not fun

[ashen scroll]

Oh

Well you'll love arcane :)

[subtle tundra]

[ashen scroll]

Its the same thing more or less

[subtle tundra]

i think its lower cd?

[ashen scroll]

Mini bursts are 45s, big burst is 90s

But its also, did you crit

If no crit

You're damage significantly lower than what it could be

[subtle tundra]

amen

[ashen scroll]

The high you feel when you hit a 250k+ barrage tho

Really good

[subtle tundra]

but also that feeling when you spam frostbolt tho

necro frost pog

[covert stratus]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[oak sky]

fires lit bro

[subtle tundra]

hard casting flamestrike

[oak sky]

you feel like a god dude

the perfect combust

[burnt latch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9wWGo8eEDfPg2dgSsKCx4y @ebon notch unfortunado, no +500 dps upgrades for me

[oak sky]

[solid venture]

[cobalt hemlock]

how does cache work in sims? does it always chose the axe for you?

[vestal wren]

yes

the sim does use axe always on assassination

[pearl ingot]

@limber lion do you sim more as NF? Just curious for which fights you play nf. P.S. GZ for reaching hof

[steel ridge]

his mythic logs seem to be private still

[rigid tartan]

There's one thing that they should fix on NF though: Make lego give you shadowblades and adrenaline rush from the moment on you apply it and make it last same duration then

[burnt latch]

make sepsis spread

similar to the hunt

and its fun

[rigid tartan]

that would also be very nice and make sense since we could use some more of that spread dmg in comparison to other classes

[burnt latch]

theres that anima power in torghast

that makes it spread

and its quite nice

shame they didnt make the legendary based around that

[oak sky]

Nf isnt really ever good

At least not vs venthyr

[rigid tartan]

it's cool in theory to get that big buffed up window where you would blast high numbers when AR and Sblades are running. it needs more tuning love though to make it worth

[hidden talon]

hey can assa use mace offhand?

[pale slate]

nope

[hidden talon]

:/

[limber lion]

Yeah heroic isn't really comparable to mythic though. Sin is perfect for hc

[wooden aurora]

Is there a way to sim optimal gems more easily than one at a time? Thought this would be an option with top gear but maybe im missing something?

[limber lion]

No, Venthyr sims 1k+ more. Just play Venthyr everywhere, except Necro on Lords/Pantheon/Vigi

[limber lion]

It absolutely is possible with top gear

[shut garnet]

just select all the gems no?

[wooden aurora]

when i go to top gear and just select all the dps gems it asks me to select at least one other item

[shut garnet]

do you have “replace gems and enchantments” ticked

its almost right above it

[wooden aurora]

that was it

ty

[shut garnet]

np np

[wooden aurora]

was about to say if i have to go through one at a time...

[burnt latch]

meev the prophet

[drowsy parcel]

And rygelon

[white gull]

265 sigil vs 272 iqd? Thought? Prayers?

[vocal kelp]

is strife sim bat?

bait*

[ruby birch]

It's bait to kill yourself in any content

Pretty sure it debuffs you harder than it buffs you

If you have full uptime though it's not really bait

[ebon notch]

I haven't checked vault yet

That's still super good

[limber lion]

wtf

278 phial

278 daggers

285 shoulders

bro you good

[burnt latch]

Ye vaulted the 2nd dagger today

Actually had the most insane vaults today

[limber lion]

I've been dry for 5 weeks now

haven't gotten any upgrades

for 5 weeks

[burnt latch]

Had 5 chars with vaults, all of em got something that can be considered bis / massive upgrade

My druid got a socketed + avoidance + bis statted belt

Lmao

[limber lion]

wtf

I took reputation on my rogue

:--------)

[burnt latch]

Hahaha

Unfort

[limber lion]

for the 2nd time in a row

got 2 sockets already

all sockets on gear

gg

And we're not even killing all bosses today

only up to Anduin or something

rip

gg

[burnt latch]

Sounds like your not opening your vaults the correct way

[rotund oak]

5 characters with vaults,opened correctly

[burnt latch]

Yeah i was just talking to my new gm and we arent going to be having any official raids during may

[rotund oak]

[ruby birch]

My alt DH got a leech 278 phial and it's a tank

Saddest experience

[keen aurora]

I still haven't gotten a single weapon out of vault and have 3 chested every week 😦

[burnt latch]

Need to find a group to run 4 bosses on mythic for this month for vaults

[rotund oak]

u should leave this place,never to return,we dont like DH here

[limber lion]

Why'

[vestal wren]

i was tempted to take my 4th socket this week, but decided for a fairly useless item instead ^^

[burnt latch]

They went really hard during prog so theyre taking a break now which is understandable

[limber lion]

a month sounds pretty long though ngl

ei me millekkää vitun tauolle menty SoDin jälkee lmao

[burnt latch]

:DDDD

[limber lion]

all gas no breaks

[burnt latch]

True

But the tier was a bit longer this time around

[vestal wren]

tbh i think this tier is probably one of the harder ones

[burnt latch]

I guess

[vestal wren]

and progression rly lasts quite long for guilds that are used to finish a tier earlier

[limber lion]

I've simmed my character like 20+ times the past 5 weeks

for no reason

because there are no gains

whatsoever

[burnt latch]

I wouldnt mind starting to reclear but I guess its better to break than burn people out

[limber lion]

but I still do it in case it somehow jumps up

[vestal wren]

make a all gem/enchant sim, maybe there is a upgrade in changeing a gem

[burnt latch]

Cev do u guys do alt raids

[limber lion]

I always do that

[limber lion]

No, just one raid a week

so pretty much just the main boys

[burnt latch]

Yeah fair

[limber lion]

Can bring in alts for the early bosses

as long as they're not too demon

[burnt latch]

U know more people on stormreaver than i do, would u happen to know if theres any guilds that wouldnt mind taking me for a couple of bosses a week

[limber lion]

I honestly don't. Some guilds either only have main raids or are still progressing

Usually they start doing alt stuff later on

[burnt latch]

Yeah fair

[limber lion]

You can send Jogi a message idk

[burnt latch]

whos jogi?

[limber lion]

THPS gm

pretty chill dude

[burnt latch]

Alright ill hit him up to see what theyre up to

[limber lion]

probs won't mind having an extra dps in case someone doesn't want to play

[burnt latch]

Yeah fair, thanks

First time playing with finns so got no connections here

[limber lion]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iPUwf3XKZBAoVArzr5YnZG

such a sad sim

[burnt latch]

Wish i had the ring

[spare flame]

Yeah you should be embarassed

[ebon notch]

I'm gonna start editing the ring into my sim

[zinc frost]

Yeah surprised you’d link that sim..

[burnt latch]

Was giga busy during timewalking

[zinc frost]

So low

[ebon notch]

And pretend I have it

[jade abyss]

Sad

[limber lion]

This sim has been the exact same for 5 weeks

it was good 5 weeks ago

now it's pretty average

[zinc frost]

Have you tried looting better items?

[limber lion]

na

[burnt latch]

U need to start sandbagging yourself with bad gear, and then accidentally ”discover” upgrades

Get those dopamine hits

[ebon notch]

He did that like 5 times

His sim would jump by 200 every week

[burnt latch]

LOL

Actually 4head move tbh, meaningful character progression etc

[limber lion]

I think I was one of the highest simming rogues

[ebon notch]

I got woken up 2 hours early ffs

[limber lion]

not anymore

[subtle tundra]

I still sim 16k

[ebon notch]

Had a nightmare and felt someone grabbing my foot

So I think it's time to wake up

[slim wagon]

might have been a rogue under your bed

[burnt latch]

Ye my neighbor wakes me up like this pretty much every morning

Forgot to lock the balcony door

[ebon notch]

What

Sorry what

Cev is that a Finnish thing

[burnt latch]

Ye its just what we do

Little practical pranks

Sometimes i manage to fool him that im sleeping and then get to scare him good

[ebon notch]

I thought Finn's were big on personal boundaries

[rigid tartan]

which "foot" was grabbed

[burnt latch]

Thats a secret

[gusty adder]

Why is most people running Nadija on halondrous M?

Is it cause of bad tea, or just some secret tech?

At least nadija sims lower for me https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/czKs1SyzbjfL5DHHyM5NJi

[kindred heron]

the theotar sim assumes you sit in the shade 100% of the time, which isnt super realistic

So in practice the theo sim is a bit inflated

[limber lion]

You should play Nadja on every single boss honestly

Theotar is not great because of how much of its power is tied to the umbrella

which you will never get good procs/uptime with

[gusty adder]

I see, thanks alot for clarifying

[frigid sleet]

does it really assume 100% uptime ? thats insane

[craggy oak]

Ofc its patch work

Same way sim assumes you are always hitting boss for nadja, maximum possible potential

[frigid sleet]

I meant, how much proc uptime does the sim assume ?

[balmy condor]

It ends up being like 12% or something

Which is the usual proc rate

But most logs are around 8

[frigid sleet]

is the diff with like a 50% on shade that big ?

[balmy condor]

Shade is 800 dps

[frigid sleet]

[balmy condor]

So a third of that would be like 240ish

[gusty adder]

thats a whole lot more than I had hoped, considering i've basically been ignoring shade

[balmy condor]

It’s a lot of mastery

[frigid sleet]

I am surprised everyone mostly geming crit / haste, I know it depends on profile but my gear tend to really favor mastery above all, no matter nadija / theo

[balmy condor]

That’s probably cause you have none

Having less of a stat = stat is better

Having more of a stat = stat is worse

[frigid sleet]

I have more than most rogue profile I've checked tho around ~350

[balmy condor]

350 doesn’t seem that high

T28 profile has around 300-350 vers and mast

If you’re unlucky with high level pieces you have more mastery

Too many variables

[frigid sleet]

yea I think its pretty average, but when siming gems, top gear/ droptimizer, I can see it really craves for more, so i'm just a bit surprised

[spice spire]

Oshosi disciples

[balmy condor]

Weird

[brazen zodiac]

shit u too

[gusty mirage]

Wasn’t a nightmare, that was me

[brazen zodiac]

ur making it hard for us to get our beauty sleep.

[balmy condor]

Me next

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

!!

[gusty mirage]

What’s wrong

[spice spire]

Scared

[gusty mirage]

Of?

[spice spire]

Yes

[indigo mulch]

My virgin eyes cant handle this.

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-fair-enough-nodding-yes-gif-5958816

[storm onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uL96qGNRZVdPiT1aTsmvox

whee

[storm onyx]

oh dmn, thats forgotten

[ebon notch]

🧢

[balmy condor]

Cheating

[storm onyx]

i forgot that from testing . meh

[ebon notch]

@balmy condor whats the fae guardians gain

[balmy condor]

Idk

[ebon notch]

ty

[balmy condor]

Np

[storm onyx]

I read Seliathan saying he gets 2 vendettas in king phase on Anduin but clipping last 5 secs with fae; to give an idea

[ebon notch]

do you know string for it

[balmy condor]

external_buffs.benevolent_faerie=0/90/180/270

[gusty mirage]

Googling is hard ty for doing it for him whispyr

[balmy condor]

Np

[crystal vault]

i think you need another one for priest lego?

[opaque anvil]

hmm.. so my sin spec sims like almost 4k less than sub even with all the gear.. does this apply to anyone else?

[hybrid vale]

you're not doubting him are you

[craggy oak]

Link sims

[opaque anvil]

so this is my sin sims

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ozoUoa6S7wyWjyWcExgP3D

[balmy condor]

Necro and garbage talents

Oh it’s dungeonslice

Aight

Necro good

[opaque anvil]

even for m+?

[balmy condor]

Just garbage talents

[opaque anvil]

i was following wowhead guidelines

[balmy condor]

I didn’t write that shit

No way would I suggest Vigor MA for dungeons

[storm onyx]

no, just relaying what he said to another person so he gets an idea of how much of the benefit, why would you even suggest that , even...

[hybrid vale]

...good

[opaque anvil]

well wowhead says to take vigor for M+?

[balmy condor]

Yeah you can before 4 set

Usually with 4 set and especially with necro you’d play deeper

[opaque anvil]

oh okay

[balmy condor]

Typically vigor is played because it makes subterfuge easier to use

But you’re not using subterfuge

[opaque anvil]

k

[hybrid vale]

subterfuge is my favorite talent

i wish it was better than ma

[opaque anvil]

so play MA or Subterfuge?

for M+?

[balmy condor]

It is for everything that isn’t venth single target

[balmy condor]

Subt

[opaque anvil]

cool

[hybrid vale]

thats everything for us raiders man

us

[opaque anvil]

lol bonesmith is simming at over 500 dps over marileth

[hybrid vale]

don't trust the sims, trust whatever cev says

[balmy condor]

[hybrid vale]

it's basically the same thing

[balmy condor]

Cev follows the sims

[hybrid vale]

ya

it's easier than doing the sims yourself

and potentially making a fatal flaw

[opaque anvil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kAJ48zevB6kNW5SB6aMpBx

thats my sim even with new talents

lol

[hybrid vale]

cev is the god of assa

[storm flint]

hi guys, would you rather put unity on helm or legs ? or whatever ?

[upbeat needle]

wrists

[storm flint]

even with full 5 set pieces ?

[upbeat needle]

you don't need full 5 set pieces

only 4

[ruby birch]

That's not what he meant

[storm flint]

ye i meant even with 4 + unity on a piece where we can put piece set

[ruby birch]

He meant even if you can replace a piece

[storm flint]

ye

ty :p

[upbeat needle]

oh well in that case

[ruby birch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[ruby birch]

Go into the sin page

I believe helmet unity and dusk ring is bis

But just check the page

[upbeat needle]

do head

most stats

[hybrid vale]

speaking of sims, is there a optimal bbuild for sepsis out there yet

[balmy condor]

Yeah just sim fae

[storm flint]

head is same stats as legs right ?

[balmy condor]

Yep

[ruby birch]

Yeah but helm comes with socket

[upbeat needle]

^

[ruby birch]

Legs don't

Not that big of a deal if you already have a 278 socketed helm

[upbeat needle]

crit haste helm good

or crit vers if u want to multispec sub

[timid cloud]

My stuff is having me gem & gear more mastery now.

Mastery Stonks

[strange python]

Legs are slightly worse statted (vers dominant over crit), and I think you can add socket to tier helm

But I cannot imagine that's really relevant unless you're going to also race change for DPS

I think helm is crit over vers

[timid cloud]

Not being troll already.

[vestal wren]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jbLIizukyIVc-ugF_tUhkkkdTzVwHzCbm0g9waVJbj4/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/947924664561311785/948160604693213214/tier_set_pieces.png

[timid cloud]

[carmine dawn]

Doesn’t herodmg have the bis profile

Just look there

[vestal wren]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[vestal wren]

^ you can look at my spreadsheet for profiles

[timid cloud]

Some say, I’d trust Fuu over HD / BM

[carmine dawn]

Fuu stop self plugging

[vestal wren]

herodamage does use the tier profiles

[carmine dawn]

[timid cloud]

Fuu, go ahead & make a mobile friendly version thank you.

[vestal wren]

and tier profiles are basically the best simming ones from the spreadsheet 😉

[timid cloud]

I said what I said.

Fuu > all

[vestal wren]

bloodmallet also uses the tier profiles

[timid cloud]

[vestal wren]

i think i like the trinket comparison better the way i did it

with trinket combinations instead of simming individual ones

herodamage/bm still are rly good, just offer different data points

[timid cloud]

Yeah. I hadn’t looked at it in awhile.

I do like the trinket comparison & the different fights for those special fights.

[upper elm]

Is theotar only worth it if i rolled haste tea?

[glass tulip]

not really worth it in raid

too much movement when most of it's power is from standing in umbrella

[stuck island]

Hey guys, good morning. Just wondering if any of you has exp with using IQD for ST fights as assasination, i just cant make it sim any good or different from my 278 shadograps but i feel it would be super good for lust on pull fights like Skolex or Dausagne

[subtle tundra]

usually linking the sim helps a lot!

[stuck island]

thanks, here is a Gear compare with a 272 iqd
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ESZGwWc7N5xyTrSvF1zc2

[verbal radish]

Have never had the buff on me..will faerie allow you to get an extra vendetta between flags?

[storm onyx]

Don't think it is 'that' strong of a cd reduction.

[verbal radish]

If it didn't, it feels like it would throw off the sync of Flag and Vendetta lining up.

[glass tulip]

No, it's more like you have to hold vendetta while it's off CD for an extra 20 seconds

Waste of faeries

[violet jackal]

but not wasted if necrolord

[onyx crane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xmcyjJtjR96VXi9hKhFpGv I have been neglecting my rogue a bit :C

I tried to play with the ventyr ability but i have to get used to it

[hybrid vale]

theo is always worth

wait no im not serious im just saying he's worth your respect

[glass tulip]

False

Lil bitch ass vampire can drink his tea in hell

[hybrid vale]

hahaha

i love this channel

[oak sky]

Nadjia 🥺

[glass tulip]

I'd suck nadjia's toes tho

frfr boutta act up

[vestal wren]

you can sim theo with lower uptime of umbrella

[ebon notch]

i read your message out loud to my homies

and they said i influenced this kind of message

[bleak sky]

Find God

[hybrid vale]

how do u know what they look like

[vestal wren]

nadja with 3p is the "nothing can go wrong" choice tho

[hybrid vale]

& does it matter

[glass tulip]

@ebon notch Don't give yourself too much credit for my degeneracy

@bleak sky I'm a Christian man of God

@hybrid vale the internet is a crazy place

[hybrid vale]

i will search

[ebon notch]

u need help

[glass tulip]

Yes.

[hybrid vale]

nothing comes up

fake news

i wanted to see them toes

thats her voice actress tho

closest thing to it i could find

[spice spire]

What the fuck

[oak sky]

Quwuake

[hybrid vale]

she also voices echo from ow

pretty neat

[oak sky]

Same VA for venari and ana

A lot of overlap in wow and other blizz games

[hybrid vale]

yah... i noticed that she was using her own voice for both that's kinda great

[glass tulip]

Well, I found venthyr futa

So I'm going to hell

[spice spire]

Bruh

[hybrid vale]

pharh's va does kyrian and night fae ppl, think she does kyrian villans and night fae friendlies

[spice spire]

What the actual fuck is happening

[blissful forge]

!axe

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[ebon notch]

which venthyr

[glass tulip]

They actually have Devos too, quite interesting

[spice spire]

[glass tulip]

Looked like nadjia

[ebon notch]

[hybrid vale]

isn't futa a tax

[ebon notch]

@balmy condor we need help

[bleak sky]

@spice spire makeitstop

Please

[spice spire]

It sure is buddy

I’m trying

Man

Idk what to do

[hybrid vale]

a venthry tax

[spice spire]

Normally im the problem

[hybrid vale]

what does it mean

[glass tulip]

Sorry I will crawl back into my hidey hole

[ebon notch]

@glass tulip have you seen the subreddit

[spice spire]

Dw about it, ur dad and I will explain when you’re older

[spice spire]

Ur pfp is unsettling and I still haven’t figured out why

[hybrid vale]

im old enough to know this stuff mannn

[glass tulip]

I don't know which one you mean but probably not and I'm scared

[oak sky]

2 eyes

[glass tulip]

Plankton has 1 eye

[spice spire]

Ahhh

It’s been a few years

[ebon notch]

fr

ur joking

[glass tulip]

Dead serious

[hybrid vale]

lowresplankton

[ebon notch]

ok the subreddit name is

azerothxxxx

with the x's

being smth else

[glass tulip]

[ebon notch]

thats as far as i can go before i get banned

[bleak sky]

You all need help

Asap

[glass tulip]

Be back in a few minutes

[spice spire]

I’m actually mortified rn

[glass tulip]

https://c.tenor.com/SZXBdPVtxYsAAAAM/yes-spongebob.gif

[spice spire]

Didn’t think it got worse than whispspspspspyr

[glass tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-lick-gif-24816298

[oak sky]

When the horny channel gets unironic

[gusty mirage]

bro?

[balmy condor]

what?

[ebon notch]

he needed jesus and i helped him find it

[spice spire]

Don’t think that was Jesus, king

[glass tulip]

Being in on anduin has sent me to dark places

We literally made a compilation video of our drunk hunter being an absolute bozo last night

[balmy condor]

why ping

[spice spire]

They needed the location of some dark content

They knew you’d know

[gusty mirage]

mood

[bleak sky]

ayo do something

shadow ban them

[gusty mirage]

why

[bleak sky]

they nasty horny

[willow saddle]

Is the double assa bug still a thing?

or did they fix it

[gusty mirage]

no

its fixed

[willow saddle]

thanks

[gusty mirage]

hey man its 2022, we don't shame

[bleak sky]

I do

[gusty mirage]

@bleak sky

where's my fact

[bleak sky]

Brazil speaks portuguese and not spanish

[gusty mirage]

I knew that already

[bleak sky]

subscribe for more brazil facts

[gusty mirage]

this bot sucks

[glass tulip]

+1

@bleak sky

[bleak sky]

Brazil is large

[glass tulip]

[tight ginkgo]

What are you degenerates on about

[balmy condor]

venthyr futa and dumb brazil facts

[gusty mirage]

so a typical wednesday in assassination

[bleak sky]

tfw not friday

[ember mural]

[drifting cloud]

[tight ginkgo]

[viscid spear]

What is this?

[glass tulip]

[viscid spear]

[fallow canopy]

this is the kind of conversation that gives birth to the ||exsanguinate 1k dps gain secret tech||

[cerulean nest]

cant decide if i wanna go sin or sub for halondrus prog

[gusty mirage]

[odd heath]

@bleak sky enlighten me

[gusty mirage]

are you a bomb carrier?

[cerulean nest]

starting p2 yeah

[gusty mirage]

then go sub

2nd step is such a QoL on that fight if you carry a bomb

[cerulean nest]

for sure

[gusty mirage]

but if you guys got all the bomb shit down pat

you can play sin just fine

[cerulean nest]

yeah i'll see how it goes with sub

wanting to start playing sin more permanently in general

[bleak sky]

Azralon is a Brazilian realm

[odd heath]

D:

[viscid spear]

oxi gets to use rare and unique emotes from other servers! I mean look at that one!

[gusty mirage]

you're almost as useless as american healthcare

I hope you know that

[viscid spear]

Or the Swiss Army.
They do have cool knives though.

[bleak sky]

keep saying those things and I'll call you an ambulance

enjoy that 2k uber ride

[gusty mirage]

you can't afford the long distance charges

unlucky

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

[viscid spear]

I long to distance myself from this conversation.

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

I can help with that

[viscid spear]

Ashkitten used: [Burst of Speed]!

[glass tulip]

Ash why is your profile video...

[night leaf]

is this really clockwork?

3. Sync Flag and Vendetta EVERY minute. Duskwalkers and Unity allow for both Flag and Vendetta on a 1 min cooldown. The burst rotation happens every minute like clockwork. Continue casting shiv on cd.

a lot of times I end up with 25-30 secs flag cd to wait

[glass tulip]

You should be having 25-30 seconds of CDR on your flag, making it happen every 60-65 seconds

[bleak sky]

Sounds like something is wrong if you're waiting 25 sec on flag

[night leaf]

yea

[glass tulip]

And as long as you are casting regularly vendetta will always come up before that

[night leaf]

I am trying to find that out

[bleak sky]

Post a log

[glass tulip]

Unity bug?

[night leaf]

mut>snd>mut>garrote>flag>rup>mfd>ct>vendetta>maintain

is what I do

how does it bug?

[glass tulip]

Yeah writing your rotation isn't a log

[night leaf]

I know

[glass tulip]

With no data we can't analyze anything 😄

[night leaf]

I didnt log on my keyboard dw

[bleak sky]

Unity can bug out and not give you flag cdr

[night leaf]

its fine, I just try to find out if I am missing something obvious

[glass tulip]

!unity

[prisma monolith]

All slots are close in output.
The best non tier slots across all specs are Belt or Wrists.
The best possible slot is likely Hands, Legs or Head.
Use a simulation to evaluate for your gear situation.

[night leaf]

that would suck

[glass tulip]

!unitybug

Hm, it's something like that

[empty hinge]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[night leaf]

I ll try on dummy again

[glass tulip]

!unityfix

[prisma monolith]

If you have issues with UNITY not working try the following:

• Log out and in again
• Close down World of Warcraft and clear the wow cache (delete Cache folder in WoW/retail)
• Unequip the Legendary and equip it again
• Change Soulbinds/Covenant

[glass tulip]

There it is

[night leaf]

it might be the bug because I get a full flag and then it has 30 secs more when I have vendetta back

ah

thanks

[tropic ocean]

@limber lion do you by any chance know how the pi spreadsheet evaluates pi with the vendetta flag snapshotting

[night leaf]

lol it is the bug

flag ends and I got 1:05 min cd still lol

[echo geyser]

we like this?

[gusty mirage]

ring's nice

sgt is okay

wrong dos trinket tho

unlucky