assassination

[oak sky]

we have 2 WL now finally

[glass tulip]

yeah we do first mote flower and immediately run to synths

and people are still late

[subtle tundra]

my guild's warlock are cursed

i swear

my gm had to give an ultimatum last night

🤨

[glass tulip]

"git gud or bench"

[subtle tundra]

not bench

gkick

[oak sky]

gkick

[timid cloud]

Yeah, the gates make that shit so much better.

I couldn’t even imagine it without them, lol.

I see why some took Theotar for double door.

[glass tulip]

it involves a lot of door of shadows

lol

door, sprint, step

[timid cloud]

Gotta save my sprint for drive by blinding.

[oak sky]

i havent had to blind

[glass tulip]

we have up to 5 hunters if we need

so if I have to blind something went horribly terribly wrong

[oak sky]

we only have 1 hunter but i think we have other people that are doing the rest

[timid cloud]

Yeah it’s to overlap the 30s entangle or whatever.

[oak sky]

like all our prog has been with no warrior though

[timid cloud]

So they can get the CD back.

Lord have mercy.

[oak sky]

both our warriors have been out

[timid cloud]

We lost our mage for today lol

Went to the hospital.

[oak sky]

we cant lose mage bro we have 3

[timid cloud]

Must’ve been the mental illness.

[gentle flower]

hey

is venth still the top dps for assassination

cuz looking at logs everyones venth for st bosses

[balmy condor]

Yes

[gentle flower]

is it nanja still or

[balmy condor]

Theotar usually

[gentle flower]

well ya ill just sim myself

for it lol

[steel ridge]

In the top 100, yeah.

[hoary remnant]

No wl no mythic guild

Wl is a must have. The utility is so important HS, Gate etc

[limber lion]

[steel ridge]

any CoS chainers?

[wooden kiln]

How do you guys sim that high wtf, I see some 15k5 and stuff, I can't even it 15k with 272 ilvl?

[oak sky]

its just people that are getting a lot of mythic gear

[wooden kiln]

If you have some time, could you look at this and tell me if you see something weird?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/55ETgPzZFqbcnLf9q5BYRE

[oak sky]

your sim is fine man

[glass tulip]

Yeah comes down to gear

I am at about 15.1k 274 ilvl

[oak sky]

and im 273 edging on 15k

it just depends on what slots you get lucky with

[glass tulip]

Only thing I'd say about the sim is you could do a little better in the trinket department

Although IDO isn't horrible

[steel ridge]

legion timewalking is the worst thing they did this expansion

[oak sky]

idk

its an incentive to do something different

if there was slightly more incentive it would be pretty fun to mess around with pushing some legion keys

ive liked trying the dungeons these past 2 times

[steel ridge]

if there were tokens

[glass tulip]

I gain much more frustration from TW keys

[steel ridge]

it would be great

since its only 1 week

[glass tulip]

Getting nearly one shotted on a +2 is insane

[steel ridge]

i just sacrificed my CoS key for a group that immediately disbanded after the run

fun.

[wooden kiln]

I have either IQD or Treasure Cache 265, both are quite annoying to play but I didn't manage to loot Sigil 😦

[oak sky]

i definitely wish there was a real reason to do higher legion keys

like if they had a timewalking ksm or something fun like that

[glass tulip]

Everyone else in my raid gets like 200-300 DPS from sigil so if I don't personal loot it I won't see that shit for months

[oak sky]

i personal looted it

we looted 4

lmao

[glass tulip]

Yeah that would be cool to have something tied to it

[wooden kiln]

We don't do HC reclears anymore so I'll have to pug it I think x)

[oak sky]

then on rekill we got another one and i gave someone elegy

[oak sky]

like a nice title or a mount

and you have a chance to get it each time legion tw comes back

[glass tulip]

Yeah that would be really fun. But I've never even ran the other dungeons

I did dark heart once

[oak sky]

ive done a lot of them in legion leveling but that doesnt really count

ive only actually done cos and eoa at a real key level

[glass tulip]

I did all of the others solo while doing class campaign

[timid cloud]

You didn’t miss much.

[pseudo hamlet]

If I dont get haste buff from Theo, it's better to switch to Nadija? I mean, overall I hate the Tubbins and Gubbins parasol because of the movements and I am pretty sure Sims are showing 100% uptime on that?

[hardy dagger]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wUQTRBVr1EJpghpRVKcaar

Ring aquired

Only 34 runs this time bless guild traders

[timid cloud]

Sim yourself & see the difference, mine is less than 100 off from one another even with hastea.

Personally since they sim for virtually no real different I just keep one as sub & one as sin.

[pseudo hamlet]

Is it possible to compare the Sim with Nadija and Theo with Haste? Instead of just different soulbinds in the Top Gear?

[timid cloud]

I don’t think so? I just usually do 2 top gears & if I don’t really have much variation it’s usually the top results underneath the actual sim itself where it shows you the DPS differences in gear sets.

[jaunty kayak]

well.. you have to choose both in top gear but in custom options add "shadowlands.party_favor_type=haste"

and it will sim theo with haste tea and nadjia

[pseudo hamlet]

Thanks mate, you're awesome!

[timid cloud]

Oh, you meant like that. That’s what I get for being tired.

[pseudo hamlet]

You both are! ❤️ 😄

[slim wagon]

is there a bot command or anywhere in guides how to fix pandemic timers for vendetta? I know ceverion had made some comments in the past but I did not find them

[timid cloud]

!cev

[slim wagon]

I'm not using afenar's so I'll have to see what fixes are done to do on mine xD

[timid cloud]

Yeah, the WA was posted a bit ago.

It’s an Afenar fix but it should still give you a general idea.

[slim wagon]

iirc I need to go to the current conditions, and make the pandemic glow if there is no vendetta on the target, and add a new condition if there is it should glow pandemic for me on the new timers ?

I've found his weakaura link just trying to figure out how to fix mine 😛

[trim cairn]

Does the great vault m+ loot come from only the dungeons you run? So theoretically you could only run Plaguefall 8 times a week and all 3 options would be from Plaguefall?

[limber lion]

You can just copy/paste all the triggers and conditions from my weakauras and apply them to yours.

The Afenar-tag pretty much only refers to the look of the weakaura, the icon/text/colors and whatnot

You can still modify it to your liking as much as you want

[slim wagon]

I got a pack at the start, I liked the general idea, so I started modifying it bit by bit to my liking over sl duration but his garrotte has a few extra conditions and triggers I'm trying to understand before I make changes

[quasi ledge]

Nah, M+ loot is selected from all dungeons no matter which ones you run

[limber lion]

Yeah, I've modified my weakauras a lot, including Afenars. I pretty much only use Afenar's icons because they look good, but I've changed the functionality of the pack entirely.

Much prefer his icons/fonts/colors to Luxthos and whatever other alternatives there are.

[slim wagon]

I;m using luxthos at the moment, tried afenar's customizing it to my liking but my short attention span and frustration at learning weakauras makes me spend hours to do modifications that need like 30mins for most people. I have some other sub only packages from popular ui's but I'm too much of an old dog to use new weakauras, I'll play even worse than usual for a month if I change

*customized luxthos

[subtle tundra]

fuck this im never playing assa m+ on tyra

[zinc frost]

What happened

[subtle tundra]

horrible class design happened

[trim cairn]

Elaborate plz Varas-senpai

[subtle tundra]

imagine this

you go into pack

you use flag

you use vendetta

the mob dies in the first 10 secs of vendetta

you dont get full flag

mob drops sanguine

heals other mobs

i cant even do stops

i played a mists, having to do stops during flag

[trim cairn]

I feel you but don't get which part of that is related to tyra

[slim wagon]

but you can demolish both tree and ingra malloch on mists on high tyrra 😄

[trim cairn]

Compared to just being sanguine issues

[subtle tundra]

that dmg you did

sped the key

by 0 seconds

bcs you still have to kill the rest of the pack

[zinc frost]

Because mobs die so quick on tyrannical no full use out of vendetta on mobs that are melted by SV/destro aoe

[trim cairn]

Even on the high keys you do?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[trim cairn]

Wtf lol how hard are ya'll pumping jesus

But you get full flag stacks for sure

[subtle tundra]

this season keys are capped on survivability

not dmg

[subtle tundra]

yea, if i int my vendetta

and then you have to stop a mob

during flag

meaning you hold gcds

so you get 20 stack flag

its just

horrible

[trim cairn]

Sadge, I looked to you to confirm assa viable in high keys

Dream broken

[subtle tundra]

maybe soa

[zinc frost]

Don’t worry our time will come again

[subtle tundra]

agaiN?!??

[trim cairn]

Is vendetta even impactful on AoE tho? Isn't it better to rupture and garrote a 2nd target and you'll release a lot more gcds instead of trying to utilize the 4 set for vendetta?

[zinc frost]

It’s not about aoe it’s about prio dmg

[trim cairn]

Why do you need prio damage if they're melted by SV/destro aoe before vendetta/flag even expires

I'm asking if vendetta is even useful when you don't need to funnel on aoe

[subtle tundra]

ok

[zinc frost]

That's the whole point of frustration though during tyrannical because you can't get much out of 4pc.

[subtle tundra]

then why play assa if vendetta is useless

thats the problem

assa has ZERO aoe

NONE

[trim cairn]

Ye for sure it's trash

[subtle tundra]

it only has prio dmg

[trim cairn]

So on tyra weeks rogues are trash in general?

[steel ridge]

i got it!

[subtle tundra]

no, cause sub still does ok aoe, ok st and can do basically all the stops

[trim cairn]

Sure but sub is trash compared to a second destro and since mobs melt you don't need funnel

[storm onyx]

i kind of made peace with keeping up with tank dps /sigh

[trim cairn]

Or? I'm just looking at +27 logs

[subtle tundra]

but you do need funnel

you need prio

you kill all mobs around big hp

do you just st

and who's gonna stop

mists bites, devours, fishsticks

solo a caster in soa

^ assa cant do any of those

[zinc frost]

Can't even soothe anymore

[trim cairn]

For sure not me since I had to google what mists bites even were, never seen them happen

[solid venture]

some random rogue in cos key who went afk after 1st boss up until last boss got the ring I SWEAR TO GOD IM LOSING MY MIND

[real bay]

wtf

[glass tulip]

Hold this L my guy

Now it's your turn, just afk til the end and you'll get one

[trim cairn]

I just find the entire thing to be a bit hyperbole because flag deals like 50-70k per cast and your ST damage is between 13 and 15k so vendetta with the 4pc shouldn't add the extra damage to kill a big hp mob before you even get full flag/vendetta?

[solid venture]

i've been farming L's for 3 days straight

[trim cairn]

Looking at logs for Halls of Atonement you can see that a hunter does more prio damage while doing AoE than a rogue does when funneling

On top of doing 10k more overall dps

[solid venture]

rogues are just

down bad this expansion

actually down real bad

[wide hawk]

14:13 Court of Stars (Level 3) completed in 23:02 - kill me 😦

[solid venture]

sin lost its low target cleave niche

literally any other spec and their mothers are about equal or better

[thin imp]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[hollow escarp]

what patch are you guys playing?

rogue is fine

[subtle tundra]

i wanna live the days where i can be top dps in a dungeon as a rogue

[hollow river]

Rogue is garbanzo

[subtle tundra]

i used to be able to compete for top dps in bfa :((

[hollow escarp]

one thing has not changed though

rogue being in most meta comps for m+

[trim cairn]

Yes and people think you eat spiders while sleeping

[subtle tundra]

rogue bfa - fat dps, omega stops, ST and AOE, shroud required for skips
rogue sl - prio, cheap shot slave :////////////

[junior pulsar]

Cloaked in shadows or condensed anima sphere for endurance?

[hollow escarp]

condensed

[junior pulsar]

Cool rt

ty* 😄

How come bonesmith heirmir is better than emeni with all the agi buffs from SBS?

[hollow escarp]

heimir is like 3% main stat all the time

[drifting cosmos]

🤔 rogue still meta, just dmg cant compete with hunters locks

altho i dont think you want stack hunters locks neither

[marble hemlock]

damage isnt the solution to everything

[drifting cosmos]

also i think hunters and locks are just plain overtuned too much

not sure how it looks on top end, but keys i did around 20s sv/locks usually 20% higher than other dps overall

[hollow escarp]

yeah, but on high keys hunters need externals each other pack 🙂

while rogue and lock just live

[drifting cosmos]

yea hunters are way too squishy

i think that applies to all mails?

[hollow escarp]

shamans have decent defensives

[drifting cosmos]

enhances/ele feel squishy to me

not sure about healer

but they also do big dmg

[hollow escarp]

astral shift is kinda low cd and big dr

nothing crazy though, but way better than what hunters have

[drifting cosmos]

3min turtle

[hollow escarp]

misdirect a theotar player for token of appreciation

[strange python]

Question about the snapshotting tech. How do I refresh the bleeds that I reapply at the end of vendetta? Normal pandemic or do I let them run out first as if I was playing exsang?

[marble hemlock]

as late as possible

so within the last sec or two

basically you wanna refresh before the last tick but after the second-to-last, but that wont always be possible

[strange python]

So the same as I would refresh the bleeds as late as possible inside vendetta?

[marble hemlock]

within vendetta youre not refreshing as late as possible

[strange python]

before it runs out no?

[trim cairn]

Looking at logs you just wanna refresh rupture and garrote primarily right before the vendetta/flag overlap runs out

[strange python]

yeah

thats not the ones Im talking about though.

I mean after that

[marble hemlock]

thats not what i meant with "as late as possible"

[hollow escarp]

you still follow pandemic rules

[marble hemlock]

during vendetta you follow pandemic (but obviously pandemic is half as long), and then you refresh both right before vendetta ends. after vendetta runs out, you ideally refresh between the last and second to last ticks (as the last one carries over into the next cast regardless)

im not sure what the exact cutoff is for refreshing rupture even if its say 6 or 7sec left to get a full 15sec snapshotted rupture

dunno if koji or brian played around with that a bit

[strange python]

ok so to confirm, I would want to refresh them as close to running out as possible right?

[marble hemlock]

Yes

[strange python]

thank you

[slow marsh]

Any gamers ?

[hollow escarp]

only gamers

[ebon notch]

What happened

[slow marsh]

Nothing I just woke up

[craggy oak]

Go check out cevs logs, what he does in vendetta window is what you wana do.

He will ignore ct if it meens he wont have the globals to refresh rup + garrote. He also hits its 2nd garrote on cd within ven window, so that its up right before the end of vendetta.

[ebon notch]

Weeewoooo

[brazen zodiac]

good morning

[pure moth]

Morning

[subtle tundra]

maybe assa in streets? idk sub dps feels low

[iron orchid]

gratz on 28 tho

[subtle tundra]

ty

[iron orchid]

i think assa in streets could be a thing

esp in tyrannical

[subtle tundra]

if i play any more high streets ill try it

there are no stops

[iron orchid]

where are you going now ?

i can't watch streams i'm at work

[subtle tundra]

im going to eat burger

[iron orchid]

ok

[gusty mirage]

dw survival and destro are getting nerfed

[vestal wren]

you spelled buffed wrong

[gusty mirage]

no I didn't

check the class tuning post

[vestal wren]

oh, i thought that was a joke

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

thats are actually reasonable changes

nice

[iron orchid]

where's da post tho

can't find this

[gusty mirage]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-9-2-hotfixes-for-april-14-2022-legion-mythic-nerfs-326697?webhook

[drifting cosmos]

do we know how impactful it is, roughly?

[gusty mirage]

wait

wrong post

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/class-tuning-in-progress-20-april-352589 @iron orchid

[iron orchid]

thank you

[gusty mirage]

ye they'll just shit on rogue by 4-5k dps instead of 10k

[iron orchid]

i mean, just look at varas details from earlier

there aren't that many 8+ target pulls in streets

[drifting cosmos]

a step in good direction then

[iron orchid]

yet survival is 20k+

[marble ruin]

Varas, you think MFD over Deeper Strat is a huge dps gain in dungeons? I broke up with kevin last night

[iron orchid]

when playing venthyr i think yes

but just wait for him to confirm i guess

[vestal wren]

its still good to have target caps more uniform

[iron orchid]

true

[vestal wren]

even if it does not mean survival gets actually a strong nerf

[hollow river]

Not going to affect them in the slightest

[marble ruin]

yea playing when playing vent I should have added

[gusty mirage]

???? how

also who tf balances this shit

wildfire cluster is okay

but obedience at 1% haste and 1% vers was too strong?

[slender berry]

2 different people, thats the diffrence i assume

[vestal wren]

it is a dev eram

*team

[drifting cosmos]

balance at bliz

[vestal wren]

also it is to this day unclear what the decisions are based on

[hollow river]

They’re still going to BODY us

[gusty mirage]

I'm sure that extra 15% vers was going to make us broken

[hollow river]

[vestal wren]

community perception?

50%tile logs?

[gusty mirage]

everyone else does already

unfortunate

[hollow river]

This is rogue

Bodied

[gusty mirage]

if that's your barometer for "does nothing"

homie I got some news for you

[hollow river]

Bro

[drifting cosmos]

pray for another 30% fok buff

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

It’s going to be as effective as our FoK buff

[vestal wren]

blizz would need to communicate with us to allow us to know what balancing is about

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

maybe it'll do more than my banshee's blight now

with another 30% buff

KEK

[drifting cosmos]

that fok buff, almost made me laugh

[gusty mirage]

outlaw's set is fucked? buff blade flurry by 10%

assassination's damage is meh?

fok by 30% baby

that'll fix it

[hollow river]

Oxi needs an aa ring?

Let’s hide it from him

[vestal wren]

idk i think assassination is in a great position, even tho it isn't super good in dungeons

[hollow river]

[drifting cosmos]

pvp spec sin

[gusty mirage]

problem is sin and sub's damage is still meh

and doesn't justify one rogue

let alone 2

[vestal wren]

rly comes down to what you compare it to

[gusty mirage]

maybe halondrus?

idk

[vestal wren]

but sure

sub is rly strong on halondrus and sin/sub seem good on jailer

so 2 key fights in the raid

[hollow river]

Halondrus is definitely 2 rogue zone

Easily

[vestal wren]

ofc anduin is the big stinker

[subtle tundra]

Those nerfs are like nothing loooool

[hollow river]

I tried to tell him

[gusty mirage]

now they'll only destroy us by a smaller margin

[vestal wren]

you could complain about some inconsistency in buffs

[gusty mirage]

see what I did there?

DESTROy

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tuss-jokes-gotcha-burn-ouch-gif-5645546

[vestal wren]

e.g. how did paladin end up buffed to a point it beats all rogue specs

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[vestal wren]

or how did wl get to the point that it could be considered its own tier

a lot of balancing decisions are fairly random

[hollow river]

Wl?

[gusty mirage]

woah woah woah, affli is almost balanced

[subtle tundra]

How is assa still so bad in m+ kek, even if it did the same dmg as sub or more it wouldn't be played

[gusty mirage]

they're almost a normie like the rest of us

[gusty mirage]

because they bandaided our shit aoe with azerite powers

[balmy condor]

They’re throwing darts at a board

[gusty mirage]

and then took those away

[balmy condor]

It’s this board

[gusty mirage]

and gave us nothing in return

[balmy condor]

That’s their dart board

[vestal wren]

alright

it took me some effort to find this

look wl is not op, if you look at 50%tile it has a spec above it

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

just don't look at any other %tile

[gusty mirage]

those are the 3 warlocks not getting PI

unfort

[vestal wren]

like 95%tile

[balmy condor]

My warlock raid lead tried saying that warlock was one of the most complicated and difficult classes to min max in the game

[subtle tundra]

My cock is hard to minmax

[balmy condor]

Very difficult getting pi whenever there’s more than 5 targets and spamming a button

[hollow river]

Lmfao

Warlock is easy as fuck

[gusty mirage]

challenge accepted

[vestal wren]

i mean, there needs to be a explenation that the most obviouse low hanging fruit apl change that gave them 60% more aoe dps was not done

literally need to be a rocket scientist to find that

[gusty mirage]

LOL

the one where they just didn't cast their venthyr ability once in aoe?

[vestal wren]

they just didn't spread their dot

[balmy condor]

No the other 60% aoe gain

[gusty mirage]

oh true

[balmy condor]

Where they spent 10 seconds casting incinerate

Instead of just rof spamming

[gusty mirage]

lmao

WL apl is giga

great class

[subtle tundra]

I literally told a girl she couldn't get me hard and the boy next to me could

[ebon notch]

show venth assa

[vestal wren]

show them the sub apl

or mage

they going to cry in a corner

[balmy condor]

Spec is legit cooldowns -> 1 button

And they still fucked it up

[gusty mirage]

woah woah woah

slow it down

you lost me between cooldowns and rain of fire

[hollow river]

Loooooool

[drifting cosmos]

🤔 i mean they are still gonna be played in mdi right? even after those kinda "mdi specific nerfs"

[pine torrent]

thoughts on faulty countermeassure

[brazen zodiac]

court of starts court of stars court of stars

[pine torrent]

i heard its a really good one but how good is it for us

[vestal wren]

outlaw rly likes it on st

[pine torrent]

what about assa?

[vestal wren]

not bis

[hollow river]

Sim yourself

[pine torrent]

3 attacks per second should be nutty no?

[hollow river]

[pine torrent]

i know i can sim myself

[vestal wren]

dropoptimizer can tell you if its worth for you to farm

[pine torrent]

im just asking for thoughts

[hollow river]

[vestal wren]

the aa ring is the only item thats def. strong

the rest, depends on your gear

[pine torrent]

golden thanks Fuu

[strange python]

Has to just be favoritism right? No way mage, lock, and Boomie stay this permanently strong, and get immediately buffed when they're weak, while rogue gets left at "meh" the majority of the time unless it's just dev favoritism

[timid cloud]

They just nerfed Survival & Destro.

[eager river]

"nerfed"

[strange python]

After they aura buffed destro while it was already giga.

[brazen zodiac]

@gusty mirage any luck on ring?

[gusty mirage]

no I stopped

I don't care anymore

[timid cloud]

A broken man.

[balmy condor]

Nerfed lock yeah

[timid cloud]

Sorry, brought down a little bit to earth so they won’t be fucking astronomically better.*

[gusty mirage]

it's not even worth it

[balmy condor]

The lock change would be the equivalent of “shuriken storm no longer generates combo points past 6 targets”

[timid cloud]

LOL

[gusty mirage]

if I can help it I'm not playing sin for the rest of the tier

[timid cloud]

Wait a second…

[gusty mirage]

so its not even worth farming that ring

[balmy condor]

They’re already on the cusp of spamming rain of fire on 8 targets

And then it’s reduced after that

REDUCED

Not the damage

The soul shards they’re already swimming in

What a dumb fucking nerf

[strange python]

Nerf rogue.

[timid cloud]

Just take another swing at feral.

Fuck those guys.

[strange python]

But a rogue killed my friend in stun lock in bastion

Nerf plz

[jade abyss]

Rogue is op !

To the ground with it !

[marble hemlock]

what nerf?

[tacit spindle]

I lolled at this

[slow marsh]

warlocks are still gonna be crying about being nerfed for the next two weeks

[tacit spindle]

Warlocks are the most broken class in the game it’s insanity

They always have 1 spec that is a tier above anything else in the game and when they have 2 like rn it’s mayhem

[slow marsh]

and yet they cry about being nerfed more than boomies

[marble hemlock]

idk bruv

our warlock doesnt seem particularly whiny about it

[slow marsh]

i agree it's hardly a nerf. more of a slap on the wrist if at all

but locks are locks

[balmy condor]

Our warlocks said it would be something but then gave up arguing pretty quick

And went back to their regularly scheduled dick circle jerk of lihuvim

[fleet whale]

i mean it makes sense that locks are strong,
lorewise, they may be the most powerful class in the game!

[balmy condor]

Brooo did you see my rain of fire? Dude that was sick! Did you see my rain of fire! And then like I chaos bolted and did top deeps? Yeah dude that was awesome I’m glad you got 3 pi’s

[quaint carbon]

[fleet whale]

i forget were locks broken at the end of BFA too?

[bleak sky]

it's the scaling

[slow marsh]

yeah i been dabbling on my ally dk and there's a new lock in my former guild

[bleak sky]

end of xpac scaling for sure that's what's happening

[slow marsh]

and he's super cringe

"shut the fuck up look at mmy damage everyone"

[hollow river]

Gkick

Insta

[slow marsh]

I mean

The other lock is an officer

who just laughs and supports

[fleet whale]

if there is one good thing about this patch, it at least killed the myth of sin "scaling"

[slow marsh]

and rages at anyone who makes fun of him for his bill gates til foil conspiracies

[timid cloud]

OOOOOH THE CURSED WORD

[slow marsh]

like me

I mean sin can't scale when the tier is shite

[timid cloud]

It’s been approximately 0 days since we said the word ||Scaling||

[slow marsh]

Sin allegedly scales mega with haste? Ok we'll make your tier devalue haste

So now you can be hardstuck 22% and go mastery instead

[hollow river]

Tier is broken

[slow marsh]

get fucked

[fleet whale]

yeah idk who thought the 4 piece was a good tier bonus

[timid cloud]

Wdym Haste Snapshots.

[fleet whale]

or what dev developed it

[timid cloud]

[slow marsh]

In isolation the tier is "good"

in terms of numbers it's obviously good

but yeah it plays like shit

[hollow river]

Yeah

I mean it’s kinda fun

[slow marsh]

and that's why i'm playing classic more than retail rn

[hollow river]

But it’s weird

[fleet whale]

combining exsang with vendetta would not be on my mind when creating a tier bonus

[timid cloud]

I think this was more of a “Nothing Personal” angle.

Buff Envenom.

[fleet whale]

it doesn't really resemble nothing personal though

[timid cloud]

AKA the Nighthold Tier.

[fleet whale]

or the antorus tier

i had fun with that one

[slow marsh]

No it was 100% an attempt at 8.3 exsang gameplay

[fleet whale]

but it fails at that

[slow marsh]

"The height of assassination gaming"

[fleet whale]

and blizz doesn't seem to know why exsang was even a thing the first place

"cough" corruption "cough"

[slow marsh]

it was the accumulation of 6 different layers of things

[misty holly]

They need to keep duration the same just double speed ticks

[slow marsh]

that made exsang on par

[timid cloud]

If that was the pinnacle, then please keep me in the fucking trenches.

[slow marsh]

with the poison build

[misty holly]

so it effectively doulbes both speed and total damage of bleeds

just increasing speed is a pvp gimmick

[slow marsh]

I said this in ptr notes a few times but iit would've never happened

Because it's too strong of a bonus without actually changing gameplay at all

They needed to just not go the speed bleed route at all

[fleet whale]

a lot of tier bonuses honestly don't really do that much to change gameplay

[slow marsh]

But doesn't matter now it's long past the time to be able to make changes

Can only say i told you so so many times before it gets old

[fleet whale]

I was never a fan of the 4 piece ever since it was first revealed

next expansion will be revealed in a few days. Hopefully sin will get some good talent changes

but i'm not holding my breath

[slow marsh]

Yeah idk i'm sure they'll just buff lock instead

[fleet whale]

no they'll give warlocks another revamp

while we are still stuck with cata era design

[autumn frost]

I want better aoe damage then shiv.

Also combo point gen with fok is wack.

[slow marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[fleet whale]

I already can predict a massive "change" assassin will get:

Slice and Dice is now passive

garrote costs 5 less energy

[ebon notch]

im near 25%

when mastery started gainin value

[slow marsh]

as venth?

[ebon notch]

ye

[slow marsh]

yeah i mean somewhere around there sounds right

definitely not the 33% meme

[ebon notch]

lmao what

who said 33%

[slow marsh]

it's a sin classic meme

[fleet whale]

how about 34% crit?

[slow marsh]

33% of all stats is when we achieve godhood

[ebon notch]

i believe it

33% vers and mastery would be huge

[slow marsh]

i think it's just crit/haste/mast but ye idk i'm not a sin boomer

[misty holly]

33 all stats would be very good lol

[red atlas]

is first sigil good for sin?

[ebon notch]

omega turbo astro bis

[echo geyser]

[slow marsh]

ye except cache better

turbo bis it is not

[ebon notch]

cap

its turbo bis

[echo geyser]

[glass tulip]

Cache loses to sigil by 120dps in my profile

[ebon notch]

its 0.1% over my mythic cache

[slow marsh]

doesn't seem like turbo bis to me

[fleet whale]

well it's "easier" to play with as well

[glass tulip]

I feel like all trinkets are similarly simple

[ebon notch]

nah but cev said it was bis

idk

[glass tulip]

What God says goes

[bleak sky]

what tabout IQD

[ebon notch]

need to resim

it was simming well before

[jade abyss]

its not huge but i missing kingsbane x:

[safe sluice]

So I got a sigil hc and and iqd, on bloodmallet it says those are bis for patchwork? Is it still accurate or am I being baiter?

[slow marsh]

sim top gear raidbots

[bleak sky]

you don't blindly follow bloodmallet, you sim your gear

[ebon notch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tnMBeke9xKoTBfnQR5XXUB

[safe sluice]

I don’t but it does give an indication what go fish for

[bleak sky]

so 278 iqd is about the same as cache for you

interesting

[echo geyser]

276 wtf relax

[signal pier]

is the CoS ring a significant dmg inc to assa or is it like for the minmax m+ pushers?

[ebon notch]

im 274 as sub

[echo geyser]

u can sim it with droptimizer or gearcompare, for ur own gear

[ebon notch]

cause of sylv dagger

[signal pier]

wait droptimizer works for legion timewalking?

[glass tulip]

Yep, it has its own category

[signal pier]

i c

thanks

[echo geyser]

raidbots bae

has everything u could ask for

[signal pier]

does it have a way for me to sim top gear with items that are not present in my bag/vault

like custom items

[echo geyser]

huh

sim items u dont have?

[signal pier]

i wanted to test what if i create specific things from catalyst

etc

[echo geyser]

droptimizer is to sim items u dont have thats the whole point

just beware if u select 285 stuff

u can still only get certain slots not all

[signal pier]

can u add sockets to that as well?

[echo geyser]

yes

[signal pier]

wtf

2022

[signal pier]

2022 advanced tech

[echo geyser]

imagine using raidbots and not using droptimizer start of patches

back in my day AskMrRobot

[signal pier]

im new to rogue

[echo geyser]

[signal pier]

i used to play mage

didnt need sim

just combust ignite stack mastery mob dead

[echo geyser]

i mean this one is rly useful

valor upgrades basically

then u know what dungeons to play on alts

[bleak sky]

droptimizer is bae

[echo geyser]

or w/e

oh halls 500dps staff

cool

mists 300 dps changling

[signal pier]

i c

[bleak sky]

ram those are my mage numbers, stop sniping my mage

[echo geyser]

my mage is bin i need to start new alts after timewalking farm done

[bleak sky]

ramlock?

[signal pier]

did u finish farming?

[slow marsh]

are you new to wow?

[signal pier]

like what items did u get from legion alrdy ram?

[bleak sky]

yes

[echo geyser]

1/3 items i got tirathon

[signal pier]

no, just to rogue, used to play spriest/mage since legion

[echo geyser]

need cos ring and fcm

[slow marsh]

spriest and mage don't use raidbots?

[echo geyser]

today will be first real session of farm

[slow marsh]

no wonder they're so bad

[echo geyser]

• they nerfed TW dungeons

[signal pier]

spriest did, mage didnt

[echo geyser]

so hopefully its gonna be easy now

[signal pier]

mage was so braindead in bfa

[echo geyser]

(Vault +15)

[signal pier]

if u seen end of bfa fire mage youd understand why raidbots was not needed

and in legion when i played spriest i dont think raidbots existed, i had simulationcraft on my pc and it made sure my cpu melts

[echo geyser]

i used askmrrobot in wod i think

not sure about legion

i still remember the bonus roll feature

[signal pier]

coin

remember when 3 chests used to drop more loot

arcanocrystal

[hollow dirge]

Raidbots is both blessing and a curse 😂

[signal pier]

just gotta trust the APLs

this is what i love about rogue, i entered this class discord like 2-3 months ago? and i was surprised at how good the theorycrafting and knowledge is here

also got access to this sick emote

[balmy condor]

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[bleak sky]

best things this server has to offer

[brazen zodiac]

especially

[mystic fractal]

hi yall, do we ever use gearswap/vanish prepull with DS legendary like sub, or is vanish too good with subt for garrote to use like that?

[brazen zodiac]

minal can i a hug im goin in, its time.

vault. of. the. wardens. spam.

[balmy condor]

it doesn't work on sin

well

[mystic fractal]

that settles that lol

[balmy condor]

it does

but it's trash

[mystic fractal]

kk

[glass tulip]

@brazen zodiac take our strength

[storm belfry]

anyone still play NF

[glass tulip]

I am going away for 3 days so you can have all of my farm energy

[bleak sky]

gl vita

I need to do it as well but idk if I want to

[brazen zodiac]

its like 80 something dps up from first sigil so

meh

[bleak sky]

OH VAULT

yeah no fuck vault

[brazen zodiac]

why? it dont seem so bad

[glass tulip]

they nerfed last boss :)

[bleak sky]

I got good trinkets and I really dislike that dungeon

[wintry trout]

The pepega is good but nothing compared to the hunter discord. Lol

[glass tulip]

[brazen zodiac]

lol i have a heroic sigil and 278 decanter winds

[bleak sky]

oof

[brazen zodiac]

f

[bleak sky]

big F

[brazen zodiac]

on the bright side i can eat my mac n cheese with spicy chicken while the two survival hunters kill literally everything in existence

[quaint carbon]

[verbal radish]

WHats everyone use to track their bleeds?

[vestal wren]

nameplates usually

[limber lion]

weakauras and a plater profile

[solid venture]

Plater profile gud

[sand sigil]

has anyone played sin on mythic halondrus and had good results? need someone w/ a vod of p2 intermish as sin

[balmy condor]

@limber lion probably your best bet

the only freak still OTPing

[strange python]

Playing lords with 4 piece is the least fun I’ve had on this class, ever

[balmy condor]

Playing sin this patch is the least fun I've had on this spec, ever

only to be outdone by anything outlaw

[strange python]

Idk what to play anymore lmao

[limber lion]

So I played it during our first day of progression, but had to sit out the rest of the progression because of personal reasons. But it definitely feels really good, and if you're comfortable with the spec, it allows for quite a bit of freedom to focus on mechanics and whatnot.

Unfortunately don't have any vods.

My damage was very competitive in comparison to others, I was often the first or second in dps

The damage is very consistent as well and doesn't really have much rng to it, other than the casino specs like Sub and Enha

[formal herald]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[marble hemlock]

What specifically are you unsure about in P2?

[limber lion]

Having just one shadowstep can feel a bit bad for intermissions, but you just need to learn to position very well.

Seli has more on-hand experience with the actual fight.

[marble hemlock]

I just step first and third knock, you can opt to cloak 2nd if you want for DPS, or just get knocked down and lose like 1-2 GCDs at most and save cloak for soaking motes.

[limber lion]

This is the most fun I've had playing Sin since Legion.

[brazen zodiac]

its nice if ur a goblin

lul

[marble hemlock]

I think I streamed our kill, lemme find it

[solid venture]

Sin is fine

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1452052005?t=2h27m10s

Ignore the fact that I do the wrong opener

Not playing bombs btw, so ymmv

[sand sigil]

well basically for wf prog we optimized bomb timings with our partners and there was a very specific cadence to when bombs were swapped, and they were always consistent based on boss timers because the damage was almost identical every pull. and we relied on the double step/vanish strike to have good uptime. but now on farm we change bomb partners all the time so the last two reclears weren't even double rogue, i was with enh sham, and the push timings are always fk'd and we skip the p2 reclaim all the time, and i just did one pull and i had the feeling at the start of the intermission that there was no way i was gonna be able to play for uptime as sin if the bombs are literally yolo'd because of all the different variables. so i ended up just afk'ing the boss and just running the bomb way ahead and standing next to my partner the whole time to make sure we got the bomb to p3. we ended up wiping to something unrelated and i was like my god does this feel like a horrible spec to yolo on so i swapped back to sub

[marble hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[sand sigil]

lord

[marble hemlock]

Yeah I can definitely see that there might be some issues with bombs

But it's not that muich different

You'd probably just venthyr ahead before dropping bomb

And lose maybe 1-2GCDs as youd be in front of the boss instead of behind it

[brazen zodiac]

am i in the right discord what is this bomb talk

[marble hemlock]

Depending on whether you have a gate up from a WL you might not lose anything at all

[formal herald]

survival hunter chat

[marble hemlock]

Losing some uptime as Assa isnt that big of a deal as long as bleeds dont drop and youre not overcapping energy. Youll most likely get a Flag+Vendt right as 2nd intermission starts, and then another right before the 3rd knock, at least thats how it always lines up for me

[ebon notch]

are the tanks helping people in intermissions at all?

having to run ahead and afk is the safest way to do it from experience but if you have enough space cause your ranged are behaving you can definitely do shorter stints of running while maintaining some uptime on the boss

like seli said you can step first and third knockback for uptime

its just a bit messy idk

[marble hemlock]

If I had a bomb, I'd most likely just have whoever starts with bomb in intermission play in front of the boss, the partner plays in the back, and then if you have to take over after, you venthyr ahead to drop bomb, step back, and just get knocked away as you barely lose uptime that way anyway. 1sec of missed autos wont have a big DPS impact.

[ebon notch]

bribe a warrior to take your bomb for you in intermission

thats what i did

i owe him big time though his boss uptime is demonic

[fleet anchor]

yeah I think this makes sense. Double step gives a lot more wiggle room. Single step is probably totally fine if you plan out your movement with your bomb partner in advance like most people probably should be doing on prog.

Sub even has triple step via Vanish Shadowstrike in some cases

[neon cloak]

Skipping ph2 reclaim with 4 healers yah?

[ebon notch]

this has been very inconsistent for me

im having to wait to fly quite far away and then striking

[fleet anchor]

You can't be in the hitbox

[ebon notch]

or else i hit it mid air and just fall off

yeah

[fleet anchor]

I'm not sure I'd use it on the knock assuming it'll put me in a good spot (e.g. not use it to avoid getting knocked off the edge) but use it to get back after a clean knock

Not totally sure the range is reliable enough to consistently avoid an edge knock on the narrow part

[drowsy parcel]

can do full uptime with step cloak step as assassin too

but its kinda grief wasting cloak for nothing its pretty good in p3

[ebon notch]

holding cloak for the entire fight is honestly completely fine

cause if you see an orb going into boss through a beam and you save the pull with that cloak

literally nobody will mind

but if you tell them you didnt have it cause you stopped a knockback

[violet jackal]

if necrolord you can fleshcraft the knockbacks to immune it

[bleak sky]

necro

[gusty mirage]

Not everyone has fel rush mr demon hunter

[bleak sky]

you'd be more correct saying shimmer at this point

dh dead

[gusty mirage]

This tier dead

Change my mind

[timid cloud]

Bad doomsaying Oxi! BAD!

[obtuse robin]

run 41

fuk me

[slow marsh]

grat

[violet jackal]

at least it's 262 less valor down the drain

[bleak sky]

we take those

[slow marsh]

now you run faster next time

[obtuse robin]

im debating wether i value my brain health or now farm tira trinket

[slow marsh]

why farm tira tho

[obtuse robin]

next best one according to drop

105 dps

fcm is 60

[slow marsh]

yeah and what's cache?

[obtuse robin]

i have 265 chace and the tira is beter

ill resim

[slow marsh]

yeah tira is like 100 better than heroic cache but

mythic cache is pretty easy

[obtuse robin]

the only way i get it anytime soon is vault and i still havent killed xymox

[slow marsh]

o well then more power to ya

farm away

[obtuse robin]

yea not everyone is in a good guild like some of u

mine is by choice tho

[keen aurora]

wow spiked counterweight is simming 330 dps below bell at same ilvl? is it really that bad

[balmy condor]

yes

spiked counterweight was the meme trinket of legion

[kindred heron]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[marble hemlock]

nah

that was the giant ornamental pearl

:^)

[balmy condor]

true

[marble hemlock]

truly the mydas talisman of the past

[clear finch]

the only sim i can get the legion ring to sim as a dps increase is with sigil trinket. Chains/IQD/Cache all sim as DPS losses if I equip a 272 CoS ring.

*second trink is phial

I'm limited to heroic ilvl / 272 out of M+ outside of /praying for vault 278.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/odLp1t9f8vQrGzYyFk89Ci

[oak sky]

Shimmer gamers

Just play the arcane dream get some bitches

Slipstream only

[bleak sky]

arcane

[glass tulip]

Arcane dream? What are you a Mitch Jones viewer?

[oak sky]

I have been

[glass tulip]

I wish I could pull off that dirty grunge look

[oak sky]

Last year i used to stay up until 4 am to catch the start of his stream

This is before i raided so i would just do weekly 15s pug heroic and watch pvp streams

As i suffered through online college classes

[fading latch]

so question for crimson tempest, do i wait for it to fall off before reapplying or no ?

[limber lion]

It follows the same pandemic logic as other bleeds

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[fading latch]

Ahh okii ty

[gusty mirage]

I still have 5 in the bank if you're interested

[strange python]

I got three rings 😬😬😬😬

[brazen zodiac]

grats

i was down by the water and thought "damn i sure do hope my homies get that ring" come back and see it pog

[obtuse robin]

[brazen zodiac]

sure i almost fell in the water mid thought cuz frog jumped and it scared me but hey you got it!

[glass tulip]

But did you pet the froge

[obtuse robin]

sin now sims 500 dps more then my sub

[glass tulip]

Black is the true gigachad

[brazen zodiac]

funny u ask

once i picked up a frog outside my door and while i was talking to my bf it jumped in my mouth

cuz i was holding it close to my face lookin at its froggy body

kinda freaked me out i like gargled hydrogen peroxide and washed out my mouth for an hour lmfao

needless to say thats the last time ive touched a frog :)

[tidal gorge]

Guess I'm spending a lot of valor

[obtuse robin]

2750 valor

[tidal gorge]

I don't care tho, hadn't spent any yet this season

[reef shuttle]

anyone have a good weakaura pack to track bleeds on multiple targets? maybe something on nameplates?

[ebon notch]

search for Ceverions Plater Profile in this channel

[reef shuttle]

Thank you. I am getting this however trying to import

[bleak sky]

it's a plater profile

not weak aura

[reef shuttle]

I saw shortly after :o.

[fading mason]

i hate my life 71 runs later still no ring

[rose narwhal]

Venth or Necro for m+?

[brazen zodiac]

both are fine

i personally like necro cuz i like shooting green shit out of my palm makes me feel like a villain which is relatively based

try out which one and see what u vibe with gamer

[carmine dawn]

Actually unbased sorry to let you know

We took a based poll earlier

[brazen zodiac]

well gosh darn dang rabbit when did this freakin happen

[timid cloud]

Necro make many numba, many numba good.

[brazen zodiac]

necro go boom boom,

[fleet anchor]

Honestly Legion had quite a lot of meh trinkets. It was the era of stat stick trinkets generally being BiS. Even the WQ ones. Then later the Eye of Command.

Mostly these damage ones are good now because of Blizzard’s changing of the damage trinket scale curves in 9.0.5

Without that they would be super meh

[harsh anchor]

ass rogue bangs in m+ tbh

[zinc frost]

Are you playing the same spec as us?

[timid cloud]

Must be playing some of that Legion or BFA Private server ish.

[harsh anchor]

When I say bangs, I had fun in that HOA

Almost rivaled the fun I have with OL kyrian dust

[ebon notch]

btw with cache trinket

we only go haste during lust right?

is it literally not worth going haste otherwise?

e.g. on a no lust opener would i just wait for axe to roll over

[balmy condor]

you never take haste

[scarlet warren]

for lords of dread, do you ever let dots fall of on your non-vendetta target during vendetta windows?

[balmy condor]

shouldn't, no

[scarlet warren]

alright

[ebon notch]

i thought if it lined up during lust you took haste?

[balmy condor]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[scarlet warren]

having a really hard time figuring out sin on that fight

[ebon notch]

i get that but i saw you type that if it lined up with lust (which was rare) you could take it for equal gains

[hollow escarp]

wand might have some niche uses, if you are 1v1 a boss

[balmy condor]

it was an idea that didn't pan out from what I know

[ebon notch]

ah ok

ive been trolling then lmao

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[fallow canopy]

Just popping here to say fuck the loot tables in legion m+, goodbye

[spice spire]

Amen

[brazen zodiac]

holy snap 2 ring drops again

both my homies got it holy fuck

one with avoidance too fuckin based

im like convinced they totally fucked with it, 40+ runs, 2 ring drops, now i come on, do 3 runs, and all of the sudden 4 fucking rings drop? blizzard?!?!

[clear finch]

Any expert gamers able to help me understand why the ring sims at a DPS loss most times?

[ocean shadow]

hey

quick question

is raidbots apl correct ?

does it consider snapshotting tech?

[balmy condor]

yes

[ocean shadow]

thanks king

[glass tulip]

I saw like 10 double item drops, not rings

But they busted the loot table 100% no doubt

[red atlas]

is it better to use two 278 daggers for M+ or still use

H sylv oh

[balmy condor]

H sylv oh is worse than a 278 in every content

[strange python]

My M sylv oh Sims comparatively with my 272 :(

[ocean shadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jmrUkNBUZyw58cHPCpGWWF

huh

doesn't sim much lower than sub

fuck it, i'mma try this shit tonight xD

btw

is it worth to switch to mythic sylv daggers on 25% or something?

[balmy condor]

no

weapon swap stuff is sub's territory

[ocean shadow]

okay thanks :3

[toxic quail]

@balmy condor imy

[brazen zodiac]

yoo what's poppin option

[toxic quail]

What’s good B

[brazen zodiac]

lol

nm just funneling cos rings and trying to figure out the actual statistics behind this ring drop

[toxic quail]

Speaking of the ring, I got it today on my cute little enhance.

[brazen zodiac]

ur cute tbh

[balmy condor]

you'll never find me in venth order hall again bud miss me with this shit

[toxic quail]

I already got the Moonlit Prism and Nightmare Eggshell. Next is Faulty.

[toxic quail]

No you.

[brazen zodiac]

hmu i need that too

[clear finch]

Whispyr, halp.

I need your Sin God eye.

[toxic quail]

Whisp I’ll be back to rogue soon. I gotta play catch up. Shush.

[brazen zodiac]

actually wait option can i send you somethin in a bit faultys been simmin giga fuckin weird maybe u can check it out

also u left the rogue life?!? ;o

[balmy condor]

I have no clue about your ring man

278 ring good idk

I ran a stat plot to try and explain it through like this stat good this stat bad

but shit looks like this

so idk

[toxic quail]

Yeah I haven’t played rogue like at all this tier. I’ve done a dungeon or two and maybe 3 bosses. But I went full on Enhance for my guild; that broke up at 4/11M.

[brazen zodiac]

tragic

mine looks like it's eating the bullet at sausage lady f

[clear finch]

So by nature of RNG loot I happen to be one of the rogues who won't giga benefit from the CoS ring 🤣😭

Good thing I got it within like 12 runs 🏃‍♂️ would hate to find this out after some of these peoples' Uber amount of runs.

[toxic quail]

Extremely saddening. We were 4/11 fast and 86 US. Then the GM and officers all decided one day they were tired of leading. So everyone split ways.

Enhance is fun as hell. But I’m a Assa boy at heart.

[brazen zodiac]

they smelly idk

you easily get into another guild u pumpin

[balmy condor]

yeah idk, I've been staring at it for about 30 minutes now and the best I can come up with is "idk fae wants more mastery for the shadow blades garrotes and no flag haste means less autos so therefore with your current items the increased stats from the ring means its about equal to the 272 effect"

or something like that

blame flag and haste and pretend I did not see it

[clear finch]

I appreciate you! 🙏

[balmy condor]

[bleak sky]

my man already is

littleoption is a hot commodity

[spice spire]

Mfers log staring

On god

[gusty mirage]

can't relate

I'm too busy dumping CDs into synthesize

[spice spire]

Buddy I’ll dump my CDs into u

[gusty mirage]

pls do

put me out of my misery

[balmy condor]

Homeboy decentchoice

[verbal radish]

Practicing some Venth Sin right now and using Cev's plater. Should I be refreshing during the perceived pandemic, or waiting til near expiration during vendetta?

[clear finch]

I refresh when his WA lights up.

Has made pandemic refreshing absolutely stupid pleasant

[brazen zodiac]

only hot people can join

[gusty mirage]

Can I get an exception?

[brazen zodiac]

pfft brother you the guild master wym

[bleak sky]

Oxi fishing for compliments again smh my head

Man's a solid 9

[balmy condor]

Out of 5

[brazen zodiac]

oxi can fish for compliments all day with parses like his 😍

[balmy condor]

Yeah

He needs them

Lot of green

[analog glade]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-tony-chopper-chopper-one-piece-one-piece-snow-what-gif-24016600

[brazen zodiac]

no i meant

hes hot fuck

[solid mica]

what does detection detect