Hello guys, maybe a bit offtopic. But im playin assassin only and want to know how "good" assassin is against other speccs/classes and if it has any viable in m+.
Everyone is sayin "go sup its damn strong".
Thanks
#assassination
flint raptor
strange python
Sin is perfectly viable until 23s or so. And even after
Honestly in pugs up until +18 you might even find sin outperforms sub based on smaller group pulls
mortal pike
just did the dungeon normally?
flint raptor
Thought so too. Played with a DH/hunter without tierset and that trash was melting before i put up my dots and start my "Rotation"
slow marsh
sin is fine for normal weekly keys we just like to complain about it being bad because the 2 button spec is better in every asepct
slow marsh
just did the dungeon normally?
i was doing it normally and it dc'd so yeah
slow marsh
tru
mortal pike
at what point is it dcing?
slow marsh
seems to work for locks mages and boomies so time for me to adopt it
spice spire
8-9 minutes
flint raptor
Are there any sin Rogue outthere whos streamin or in your opinon worth to see? Wanna see some highgear actions :)
spice spire
seems to work for locks mages and boomies so time for me to adopt it
You were the chosen one, etc. etc.
slow marsh
I however am open to changing my ways if I see there is hope
brazen zodiac
yeah? any posts or anythin
slow marsh
not that i can find
slow marsh
a ton of people complaining on the twitter tho
brazen zodiac
guess ill hold my court for us later
slow marsh
probably for the best
slow marsh
fun fact, some of the other TW trinkets are extremely close to phial. Like the egg trinket from thicket is -14
Thought that was kinda cool
slow marsh
Sure and that's within it. So like if you wanted to be different and use a dragon egg trinket you could and not be trolling
brazen zodiac
only us real quirky gamer girls gonna use dragon egg
actually dragons are just cool ill probs use it lul
slow marsh
I would use it if i didn't already have phial tbh
spice spire
So true bestie
brazen zodiac
yeah no phial yet so
lol my bf opened my vault last tier and got the phial which was my first of the xpac
had him do it again today and he got me a socket
very sad
slow marsh
no shot
brazen zodiac
thats what is aid when he opened it
spice spire
Buddy he didn’t even get a phial out of his
brazen zodiac
XD
slow marsh
my vaults are poop
slow marsh
No dagger, no phial, passed on iqd early. i'm cursed
brazen zodiac
looks like its time to uninstall
slow marsh
Idk I see tier chest or shoulders tbh
tranquil lodge
yup just got dc'ed on our way to first boss, dungeon insta reset lol
guess no ring before raid 
slow marsh
orly
mortal pike
So weird
I did a15 fine soona s realm came up
how far into the dungeon does it bug?
slow marsh
right when getting to the bridge after first lamp post
restive falcon
Does assass want court of stars auto attack ring still
slow marsh
bis ring
spice spire
Yea
cerulean nest
anyone run a droptomizer for TW that I can see? just wanna see the range
and I'm at work lol
hollow dirge
might take decanter for m+
265 one I was trying recently 1-8%-2% overall on fortified 19-20s
storm belfry
Had the same tier as a choice in vault 
but got a 278 dagger now 
brazen zodiac
265 one I was trying recently 1-8%-2% overall on fortified 19-20s
xd
strange python
I've gotten 278 shadowgrasp, 278 phial, lihuvim 278 dagger as my last three vaults
slow marsh
anyone run a droptomizer for TW that I can see? just wanna see the range
betrayal trinket is best, then faulty is -40ish, both are behind cache and sigil. CoS ring is BiS by a lot
for comparison
tired sparrow
so guides and discord recommend poison bomb even after 4pc but everyones running crimson tempest on ST - is this just because of the 4pc vendetta window?
hollow river
so guides and discord recommend poison bomb even after 4pc but everyones running...
Check the pins
spice spire
so guides and discord recommend poison bomb even after 4pc but everyones running...
Yes, specifically with venthyr it ends up being better. Venthyr still hasn’t been added to guides n stuff
But also that
hollow river
spice spire
Whíspyr is just a venthyr HATER
mortal pike
its so fun tho 
tired sparrow
whats mfd
spice spire
Marked for death
mortal pike
marke dfor death
tired sparrow
ah ty
tired sparrow
yea mb this is like 5th alt lmao
tired sparrow
ok i read pins and see nothing about CT other than one of them says to run it for talents
but faq says not to
and guides say not to
but logs say do too 🤔
spice spire
This post is a good primer for it
tired sparrow
nvm actually it snuck in ye
spice spire
The beauty of assassination is we have a lot of passionate (boomers) theory crafters scraping out every bit of damage they can
And if it’s a significant gain (see that post) it’ll be pinned
cerulean nest
betrayal trinket is best, then faulty is -40ish, both are behind cache and sigil...
ty
ring it is
slow marsh
The troll was dumb anyway (MFDeez nuts, HAHA, so funny)
nice
cold rampart
is legion TW tomorrow ? (EU)
cold rampart
We still gonna farm faulty?
spice spire
Pins 
gusty mirage
The troll was dumb anyway (MFDeez nuts, HAHA, so funny)
spice spire
spice spire
bleak sky
gusty mirage
hollow river
cold rampart
i need rotation for lords when playing necro
oak sky
Opener or general rotation
cold rampart
opener
normal mist
man now that i know how to properly burst (4/4) its so fucking smooth
brazen zodiac
lol
spice spire
i like forgot how to play venthyr in keys <@!226508540746006528>
Cooldowns go brrrr
brazen zodiac
just feels weird being venthyr and not runnin MA
misty holly
Court is buggy right now it seems. I've had whole party disconnect with instance resetting in 2 out of 5 runs this morning.
Hope it get fixed today.
spice spire
Court is buggy right now it seems. I've had whole party disconnect with instanc...
It is
strange python
Not for me in this 2
viscid spear
Something to do with the 10+ affix?
strange python
Might be
misty holly
completely random for me. mid dungeon fighting trash the first time. Right before final boss the last time. Both low keys.
strange python
I've done 12 keys under 10 no crashes now
Every key over 10 breaks
It's definitely the 10 affoc
obtuse robin
i did a 5 and it broke
sand sigil
!fuu
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obtuse robin
ppl in say chat saying its been like 45+ min since stuff was breaking
gusty mirage
it's a small indie company guys
spice spire
Multi dollar company
vestal wren
so two dollar?
cold rampart
we play sigil or cache on lords?
vestal wren
sigil did sim highest for 2 targets
cold rampart
so cast sigil on swarm then
vestal wren
cev also played it on his heroic parse
so i guess you are fine running with it
i assume so (it makes sense to use it for sworm)
viscid spear
Had 2pc when I logged in this morning
Went to ZM and changed my 275 chest into tier
Did a Lords group and got shoulders
4pc baybee
spice spire
Outdps and bench me
oak sky
NODDERS
spice spire
I’m ready
viscid spear
Not happening bruh
oak sky
Quake enhance reroll when?
viscid spear
spice spire
why not
spice spire
Quake enhance reroll when?
Year of the spear buddy
split grail
So I know it's sub+DS for strict st, but what about simple add fights like Dasaugne or Rygelon
spice spire
I got it locked and loaded for when I get dethroned (level 52 btw)
iron orchid
don't go enh bro
spice spire
So I know it's sub+DS for strict st, but what about simple add fights like Dasau...
For the sausage, subt is even further ahead because you can spread it
iron orchid
you'll lose your brain
spice spire
I'm trying
You’re the right covenant I believe 
iron orchid
it's worse than war
spice spire
you'll lose your brain
That’s implying I had one before mister deïræ
viscid spear
You’re the right covenant I believe <:yejoice:930481318767239209>
And that's...
spice spire
🐀
oak sky
Yep
slow marsh
So I know it's sub+DS for strict st, but what about simple add fights like Dasau...
is it sub + ds tho?
or MA + MfD
split grail
or MA + MfD
I should have specified NF casue I aint bothering with that snapshotting bullcrap
slow marsh
you're already snapshotting though no matter what cov you pick
spice spire
(But still a rat)
oak sky
House arthas alt night every Sunday <a:NODDERS:754328819459948605>
I would run normal for tier 
My mage is 245 rn i think
viscid spear
House arthas alt night every Sunday <a:NODDERS:754328819459948605>
Hey if he brings his Mage then my Mage will be the rat. Already getting pooped on by Teets
spice spire
you're already snapshotting though no matter what cov you pick
Depends on trinkets and other things, but manipulating the snapshot not a lot of people want to do
slow marsh
for NF you need to stand in flowers and snapshot flower haste onto your first vendetta bleeds
spice spire
People avoided GCB on nyalotha
spice spire
Hey if he brings his Mage then my Mage will be the rat. Already getting pooped o...
Frost kinda wild tho I wouldn’t worry about it
Teekay also a gamer
slow marsh
avoiding dps gains 
spice spire
Fun over gains for most.
viscid spear
Frost kinda wild tho I wouldn’t worry about it
But I'm Frost... 
spice spire
This Mfer still running NL
viscid spear
This Mfer still running NL
But I run NL...
oak sky
I play fire bro
spice spire
I would run normal for tier <:Sinscheme:540181921913896971>
If you want, just dm me. I’ll invite night of and you can get in. Not a guarantee until next week
spice spire
But I run NL... <:concernedfrost:940381295240945664>
That comment was to mister iceblades 
oak sky
Yeah if i remember
viscid spear
3 Ravenholdt chums
oak sky
My guild thinks im too rat when i never die and its other people doing mechs wrong that wipes us 
slow marsh
NL is poggies for padding though so it's not even lazy gaming
spice spire
Bro I’ll run two rat groups at once Idgaf. Alt night is supposed to be for fun
viscid spear
How long until we can do a full Rogue run?
spice spire
Too much brain power to speak with calls and do stuff on anything else
I’m 2head gaming
viscid spear
I’m 2head gaming
slow marsh
2head better than 1 tho
spice spire
Barely
latent dew
Does dashing scoudrel works for the instant poison dmg?
slow marsh
yep but we dont use it after 4p
latent dew
well i dont even have proper 2 pieces so its fine? xD
spice spire
Yes
slow marsh
ye you're fine
viscid spear
2head better than 1 tho
We already killed Cho'gall like half a dozen times tho
hoary kernel
Is it worth trying to get Faulty Countermeasure?
oak sky
If its a gear upgrade sure
But theres a few mythic trinkets from raid that are likely stronger
hoary kernel
what constitutes as an upgrade? Does it outperform heroic trinkets?
oak sky
If it sims higher its an upgrade
Not sure which heroic trinkets it would beat i havent checked myself
hoary kernel
alright thanks ^^
oak sky
Np
slow marsh
betrayal trinket from vaults is better than countermeasure @hoary kernel
iof venthyr anyways
hoary kernel
Gotcha
heavy vessel
Timing for CDs for Dreadlords? If flag/vend used on pull they're not quite up for first vuln phase. Just send it and they line up when they line up or hold throughout the fight?
limber lion
Timing for CDs for Dreadlords? If flag/vend used on pull they're not quite up fo...
You shouldn't play Venthyr on Lords to be honest.
If you play Dusk, just send Vendetta on the pull and then try to send it once during each swarm and once in between, either right before Among Us or right after it
heavy vessel
yeah, I know ideally I swap covs for certain fights but I'm not THAT dedicated lol.
open lion
whats secondary stats for sin crit haste?
slow marsh
yeah have to sim cuz cov changes things a bit after you start getting stacked
viscid spear
Lemme clarify this: with 4pc you refresh Garr & Rupt before Vend ends, and you let them both run out before reapplying?
spice spire
Before it ends
viscid spear
Yeah but do you let those run their course before reapplying?
limber lion
yeah, I know ideally I swap covs for certain fights but I'm not THAT dedicated l...
Just send Vend on pull, without Flag then
And use Flag during the Swarms only
Vend should come up shortly after swarm begins
spice spire
Yeah but do you let those run their course before reapplying?
Ideally yes, but it’s worth extending before vendetta ends, even if not in pandemic.
Obviously not if they’re two seconds in or anything
woven ruin
Does Sub even use Shiv?
thorn fjord
if you need to soothe something
spice spire
Does Sub even use Shiv?
To soothe
viscid spear
Ideally yes, but it’s worth extending before vendetta ends, even if not in pande...
I mean I refresh them both before Vend ends, do I let those refreshed ones go all the duration?
spice spire
Oh yes
thorn fjord
I always have a hard time sneaking in one last Garrote
viscid spear
Looking over the pins, I need to get better at NL
spice spire
NL ez
heavy vessel
Just send Vend on pull, without Flag then
Thanks!
viscid spear
Trying to hammer this new opener into my brain
🧠
tacit pebble
so according to pins we hold shiv for the vendetta/flag/mfd, but the sim is sending shiv on CD, which do i listen to lol
viscid spear
Oh shit, I didn't have CT on
thorn fjord
Been seeing some interesting ST sims with Necro on top
limber lion
so according to pins we hold shiv for the vendetta/flag/mfd, but the sim is send...
It really doesn't though, the logic behind it is quite a bit more complex
thorn fjord
Anything change or??
limber lion
Basically it sends Shiv on CD, if you get enough extra casts off it to get more benefit from it
So it's tailored to very specific fight lengths
viscid spear
Man, MfD AND CT? My fingers are crying
limber lion
Generally you should just sync them up every time, it's much easier to pull off and you won't actually lose value doing that if the fight length ends up being in bad for the sending logic.
thorn fjord
Man, MfD AND CT? My fingers are crying
fuck that on pure ST i just run PB and say fuck it lol
limber lion
Man, MfD AND CT? My fingers are crying
Yeah, it's not that bad honestly.
thorn fjord
because i literally ALWAYS forget to keep CT up midway through the fight
<-- smoothest of brains
ripe gulch
thats the opener
tacit pebble
so sync unless i know what a fight length is gonna be for sure during prog, got it
ripe gulch
not the full window
limber lion
so sync unless i know what a fight length is gonna be for sure during prog, got ...
No
Just sync it everytime
viscid spear
Can I still do 2330021?
limber lion
There's literally no reason to go the extra mile for an extra potential 10 dps
just to risk doing much, much less dps because of poor timers.
thorn fjord
Can I still do 2330021?
Thats what im doing unless theres cleave
limber lion
I always sync Shiv with Flag/Vend and I'm doing pretty decent.
So if my word is anything to go by, you probs should just do that.
thorn fjord
How was your box Cev
balmy condor
So if my word is anything to go by, you probs should just do that.
who are you?
tacit pebble
aight got it, ty for the help
oak sky
How was your box Cev
Eu is tomorrow
thorn fjord
Ohh right
viscid spear
Cev is fancier and thus more superior than us Muricans
oak sky
thorn fjord
all facts
but yeah Ash.. If ct is giving you a hard time just run PB... you'll still be blasting
atleast thats the case for myself
limber lion
How was your box Cev
Not expecting much, only did one m+ key last week. 
viscid spear
I figure CT would be good for something like padding on Lihuvim adds or Andy's ghouls
thorn fjord
Def run CT on Andy
oak sky
Ct is just good everywhere
thorn fjord
I ran PB on Lith
oak sky
No downside
thorn fjord
Downside is having to press an extra button lol
slow marsh
oak sky
Ct makes the number in the bottom right higher
thorn fjord
Not if you forget to cast it LOL
viscid spear
But env makes me peepee move
Can just flex your groin area to make it move, impresses the ladies all the time 
slow marsh
imagine thinking env does damage anymore
thorn fjord
25k crit env beg to differ
viscid spear
Ct makes the number in the bottom right higher
Bottom right? That's my gold count
viscid spear
Man, MfD AND CT? My fingers are crying
Also why is this recommending IW?
mortal pike
is cos fixed yet 
open lion
dusk over doomblade?
bleak sky
Ct makes the number in the bottom right higher
a man of culture
details is bottom right always, if you disagree too bad you suck
bleak sky
too chad 4 me
slow marsh
our pi sim optimization is so buns it makes me sad to see
all our external sims make me sad to look at
spice spire
You gonna play with it second by second 
slow marsh
it's just that like people unironically look at these sheets to determine who to give what and our stuff is so scuffed
oak sky
Pi with flag yep
How long is pi avtually
Actually
I guess you would want it at the end
empty hinge
pi is 20 seconds
loud light
the sample sequence in the report linked on the PI spreadsheet has PI coming right on CD at 0/2:00/etc while the vendetta/flags are at like 0:05, 1:14, 2:28
so that 2nd PI is with absolutely nothing up
slow marsh
yeah
the problem is that the sim apl gets weird if you change the pi timing to match every flag near PI cd
it desyncs vend and flag because it thinks you're gonna lose casts near the end
thorn fjord
Our lock was out on sunday and i got PI all night
was very nice
PI every Vanish rotation 🙂 and Pull
raven vapor
Heirmir or Marileth for Pantheon?
wide ridge
virgin heirmir users vs chad marileth users
latent dew
ez
spice spire
strange python
Hi whispyr
spice spire
Wat
slow marsh
it's no 4p using dashing
latent dew
LP+MP+dashing?
Halondrus hc low haste xd
subtle tundra
cursed
latent dew
Priest doesnt like to gimme pi 😦
winged moss
mortal pike
anyone having luck with cos not bugging?
brazen zodiac
yeah i ran it twice on a 16 and it was ok
balmy condor
Hi whispyr
hi
strange python
8
With a 5 stack
I'm surprised faulty is outsimming 278 phial and shadowgrasp
But I'd rather just wait for sigil
clear finch
!fuu
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clear finch
is there a BIS gearing list posted somewhere? I checked FAQ and PINS and the WoWhead guide
frosty cedar
no bis list generally just sim stuff
mortal pike
sadly there really is no better answer than sim your self
as pretentious as it comes off sometimes 
slow marsh
i mean yeah but also bis changes depending on your covenant so there's that too
also no point in making bis lists when you need 4/5 tier slots and can't guarantee highest ilvl on all of them so your unity changes around
also if you're asking for a bis list but you're not mechagnome then really what are you even doing anyways
oak sky
well ACKTUALLY you would be void elf
slow marsh
ytho
oak sky
brb doing race sim wheres the string
slow marsh
mecha is like +50 over void
mortal pike
dwarf or go home
slow marsh
dorf is the m+ race
oak sky
or nelf
slow marsh
dorf or NE but if you do NE everyone has to be NE
but if you are a sim dps monkey then mecha by far
oak sky
quake do you have the racial string
slow marsh
good isn't the best
oak sky
or know where it is
slow marsh
if i had diaper babies unlocked i'd swap for 9.2.5
oak sky
i dont have them
spice spire
good isn't the best
It is rn
oak sky
i was 1 quest away
spice spire
I have the dumb one
oak sky
then i lost the quests when i went horde
solar stump
Are you guys farming Shadow trinket from legion m+ tomorrow? or just COS spam
slow marsh
oak sky
i wonder if i sim 15k now
slow marsh
Are you guys farming Shadow trinket from legion m+ tomorrow? or just COS spam
cos spam, cache + sigil are both better than tirathion's
solar stump
cos spam, cache + sigil are both better than tirathion's
aight pog
oak sky
oh ye i need to sim tw stuff
solar stump
i wonder if i sim 15k now
im gonna be 5 off after the ring 😂
clear finch
literally spec'd how the FAQ says for ST
slow marsh
@spice spire
clear finch
im not doing the venth snapshotting, tried it... didnt enjoy it.
slow marsh
sim venthyr MA + MfD and watch it go up 3-400
fleet whale
the faq is a bit outdated, but tbf the difference isn't really that large
slow marsh
there's only one fight so far i would go NF for and that's lihuvium and only because you can get sepsis shiv and bleeds out before first motes
fleet whale
and if he's performing well enough for his team, more power to him i say
clear finch
Yeah im just doing H weekly. Not a big boi Mythic gamer.
hollow river
here goes the box boys
oak sky
and if he's performing well enough for his team, more power to him i say
and iceblades was just talking about how he could sim higher
fleet whale
he seems to be aware
clear finch
lol, anyone get fat loot?
slow marsh
yeeee obviously yes play what you want
hollow river
LOL 278 Bells
slow marsh
get rekt
hollow river
oak sky
bro your gear is so sick
ebon notch
ty i definitely totally earned it
oak sky
hollow river
simming more than my sub gear :l
ebon notch
we killed crab today
ebon notch
and i feel more dead after it died
hollow river
lmao
ebon notch
its just like "was it worth it"
ebon notch
bell?
hollow river
from vault
slow marsh
bruh 278 cache is bis so yeah
oak sky
i only need the ring
oak sky
apparently the boots from darkheart thicket sim a bigger upgrade than the ring tho
slow marsh
yeah those boots are nice
mastery crit
cos crit mast boots are really close tho like 2 dps for me
oak sky
nah the crit haste ones
the crit haste and crit mast both sim high for me
almost even
i think only heads and belts sim high besides that
and the ring
so ill just chase the ring and if i find some boots or something its cool
strange python
Guild won't bring me to pantheon :)
oak sky
thought u left your guild
slow marsh
pantheon just not really a rogue fight even though we need like 3 things from it
kindred rapids
Tell them that cev says that rogue is "creamy" on panth
slow marsh
i mean it's creamy to play but then you look at meters
and see you're with the tanks by the end of it
oak sky
bro
my dk
is being so annoying
hes like
why dont you play sub on pantheon
and i say
because i dont want to
its boring
its not like we had a damage problem
we killed with like half the raid dead
strange python
thought u left your guild
Apps are out. But I'm still in till I find a home
They know
oak sky
good luck
carmine dawn
why dont you play sub on pantheon
“Raid lead isn’t sending me to adds, sin is better cleave”
carmine dawn
Oh lmao
slow marsh
rip
slow marsh
you have to clear one add set in p3 still tho
carmine dawn
But guess who’s benched on pantheon
oak sky
i get that everyone needs to be assigned
carmine dawn
Not like I can say anything
slow marsh
tbh isn't mostly just ranged that doesn't hard swap that makes the fight so much harder than it should be
strange python
Your locks, boomies, and hunters should be slamming the adds
viscid spear
How's this opener go if you use MfD and get SnD rolling before pull?
slow marsh
mut rup mut gar flag ct mfd envenom vend shiv
limber lion
Actually gar - muti - flag - rup - mfd - ct - vend - shiv - vanish is better
slow marsh
so you just waste the two MA globals then?
limber lion
But you honestly shouldn't use MFD/SnD before pull. It's very very very very very minimal gain
limber lion
so you just waste the two MA globals then?
Yes, to get the opener rolling quicker
slow marsh
cool
limber lion
It's kinda cringe
but yeah
@viscid spear you only do that if you can use MFD 25 seconds before pulling the boss.
Otherwise it's just not worth it.
oak sky
But you honestly shouldn't use MFD/SnD before pull. It's very very very very ver...
ive been doing it on lihuvim since we have to cd adds
might as well because any actual global ends up being too late
limber lion
ive been doing it on lihuvim since we have to cd adds
Idk, pretty sure doing the normal opener allows me to get MFD back for the add, and even inside the Shiv window
oak sky
where do you mfd in your opener on lihuvim
oak sky
oh you get to cd boss
limber lion
Yes
oak sky
i dont
limber lion
As should you
oak sky
nah
limber lion
literally inting if you don't
limber lion
lol
viscid spear
But you honestly shouldn't use MFD/SnD before pull. It's very very very very ver...
But it was decent before 4pc, right?
limber lion
But it was decent before 4pc, right?
No, it's been shit since day 1 of Venthyr
oak sky
only our arcane mage is doing more
limber lion
We don't do it as Venthyr
slow marsh
yeah i agree with cd'ing boss on pull. its way too cringe to hold for an add 40-45s into the fight
viscid spear
We don't do it as Venthyr
Oh a diff Cov does then?
oak sky
yeah i agree with cd'ing boss on pull. its way too cringe to hold for an add 40-...
its 30s
but
slow marsh
either way
oak sky
its not like i have a choice
limber lion
you play MFD on Venth because you need to CP for Flag
oak sky
we barely kill adds with everyone cding
limber lion
If you use it pre-pull, you don't have it for flag
which kills the purpose of picking it
viscid spear
I was stalling Ready Checks in order to make sure I had MfD up for the rotation
oak sky
like obviously im gonna lose casts and get a lower parse but at least we can kill 2 adds first set
slow marsh
yeah the most i'm inting myself is going korayn but i'm cd'ing on pull still
i'll hold cd for adds if the locks do
oak sky
our locks do
everyone does
but after the cringe first hold i can send wherever i want
so its fine mostly
once we have better damage i should be able to do all the slam cd shit i want
drifting cloud
nah its super shit, when you send on pull you get it back right after he loses 50%
and then again before 2nd adds
oak sky
but for now we literally cant kill unless i cd the add
odd heath
first CoS lol
formal herald
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spice spire
<@226508540746006528>
The within margin gain 
hollow river
but for now we literally cant kill unless i cd the add
Prog?
oak sky
for lihuvim ye
oak sky
i dont think we kill until monday maybe
we should get our reclear in today
at least through xymox and sausage
then pantheon hopefully
hollow river
Same
We got to p3 on first night of Lihuvim last week iirc
Not many pulls in yet
We killed heroic jailer in like an hr and a half kek
hollow river
2nd add is easy breezy
hollow river
The aoe phase is a bit rough I suppose
A bit chaotic
The stack mechanic is cool but if you’re not careful Step will fuck you up
oak sky
ye
hollow river
Hard to have sprint for all of them
oak sky
im probably gonna just start stepping to our monk
hollow river
Especially when I’m busting sprint to drop notes
oak sky
because he just transcendences into the rough stack point
hollow river
Yeah I should step our enhance
Even just for the mini speed boost
I had a couple near misses on it when I tried the push raw
shy dust
literally inting if you don't
Stuff like this is a bit wrong to say
It’s not inting if the raid team just genuinely needs the damage
You’re there to kill the boss not parse
woven ruin
Does Mastery interact with our 2p
limber lion
It’s not inting if the raid team just genuinely needs the damage
Yeah, of course. If there's no other way to get that damage, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
dull osprey
When vendetta runs out, do I let my bleeds run (almost) out or refresh immediately for pandemic?
oak sky
yeah let them run
dull osprey
cool. I wasn't and then my brain did a think and figured I should ask because it makes sense I should let them run like we did in previous expansions lol
limber lion
farm is when ill get pissy if i cant use on boss
Yeah. I personally tried pulls where I was using Vend on boss and on the adds, and not only did using it on the adds completely ruin the timers for the rest of the fight, it also wasn't that big of an increase in damage output.
But yeh, doesn't really matter. If that's what it takes to kill the boss, then it is what it is.
oak sky
yeah its fucky with the schematic
viscid spear
yeah let them run
Do we follow Pandemic rules within Vendetta?
lyric crater
so do i keep CT dot up all the time or just in vd window
oak sky
when they wanted me to vendetta the add i just swapped to sub
its fine with me tbh
i blast hard
fading wigeon
strange silo
what keystone level? and how bad was it scaling wise
wide ridge
does sbs get snapshot permanently? 
odd heath
sorry bro
slow marsh
na im sure it'll get beat later
balmy condor
y'all lucky cev is asleep
slow marsh
I was surprised to see it tbh i played like poopy
odd heath
y'all lucky cev is asleep
asleep and hidden logs
ripe gulch
im benched for xy'mox
limber lion
just leveled up a survival hunter, had to do quick lfr's before hitting the bed
twas pretty painful
came back just in time for log talk
odd heath
damn
lol
im holding the r1 for pantheon for 2-3 weeks secretly
dont want to see cev's
and be disappointed
s.s
limber lion
not 20k yet, can tell you that much.
ebon notch
@slow marsh desausage log?
odd heath
not 20k yet, can tell you that much.
me neither lol
limber lion
getting pretty close though
ebon notch
is assa better or worse after the pantheon nerfs
cause you spend less time in the zoldycks phase right
but you dont even run it anymore
limber lion
probs won't be getting a 20k kill anytime soon because we start extending this week or the next, not sure yet
odd heath
getting pretty close though
i killed once, got r1 and never been there again, but today I'll go on farm
limber lion
cause you spend less time in the zoldycks phase right
Correct. Assa is definitely worse for it now.
limber lion
i killed once, got r1 and never been there again, but today I'll go on farm
just once?
ebon notch
im not used to saying this but sub is so much easier on that fight that im struggling to motivate myself to swap back
limber lion
Pantheon is pretty fun
odd heath
ye, killed one time only
limber lion
but it was def more fun with the previous hp benchmarks
limber lion
im getting assigned to ritualists btw
yuk
ebon notch
anything to make the raid go by easier
limber lion
Anyways, we just got maintenance in EU
ebon notch
i swear we are so close to disbanding
ebon notch
gn
limber lion
slow marsh
<@!409626135408803841> desausage log?
on it rn
slow marsh
my pc will explode
ebon notch
slow marsh
ik
ebon notch
whats ur best
brazen zodiac
gn cev
regal hamlet
Haven’t played since legion m+ was added, anything op to go for?
slow marsh
whats ur best
12.8 i always seem to die at the end cuz of weird boss placement
hollow river
stopped working
ebon notch
12.8 i always seem to die at the end cuz of weird boss placement
the trick is to save cloak for the big overlap
slow marsh
yeah that's what i was attempting to do but i misjudged it
pure moth
not a bad vault at all
ebon notch
yeah that's what i was attempting to do but i misjudged it
whats your best dps on the boss
slow marsh
12.2
ebon notch
how many times have you killed?
strange python
is legion timewalking only a week ;-;
balmy condor
yes
balmy condor
in like 4 months yeah
worn badger
im guessing the answer is no but can you turn the crafted 262 stuff into set pieces ?
strange python
ill wait
wide bolt
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balmy condor
im guessing the answer is no but can you turn the crafted 262 stuff into set pie...
I think you can
don't see why not
worn badger
Does the sim account for how strong the axe is ? i have a normal cache but a heroic earthquake trinket and it always shows that one
odd heath
just once?
twice then xD
worn badger
so the answer is no, you can not upgrade the crafted stuff
timid cloud
What's the move if I gotta do P1-P2 on Xy'mox for CD's?
Shit felt mad awk with Duskies
slow marsh
Does the sim account for how strong the axe is ? i have a normal cache but a her...
it's cuz you have normal
timid cloud
Saw my boy iceblades with that R1
slow marsh
it's fake
slow marsh
2 people have me beat in privates
timid cloud
Bless.
brazen zodiac
i tried for skolex too but idk too many melee
thats my excuse :D
any tips of m sausagelady?
timid cloud
Yeah, but what should I do, it felt real bad lol
timid cloud
Yeah, that's a don't die maneuver.
wispy chasm
272 countermeasure or 278 IQD?
wispy chasm
sims say its equal for me but iqd is inconsistent
just didnt know if anyone had other opinions about it
brazen zodiac
don't die on sausage lol
lol thanks
slow marsh
it really do be like that though tbh
wide ridge
6 court runs, no ring has been seen so far
brazen zodiac
it happens
split grail
open with ambush or garrote
split grail
st nf
brazen zodiac
6 court runs, no ring has been seen so far
9 for me, 1 guy got it and couldnt trade it but also didnt want it
idefk
ebon notch
so the answer is no, you can not upgrade the crafted stuff
oh really?
@odd heath whats your sausage parse
odd heath
98
ebon notch
odd heath
damn
ebon notch
this is my private gem
odd heath
thats nice
ebon notch
idk what cev has tho
zinc frost
brazen zodiac
got my shiv paried -.-
lmfao
ebon notch
im not allowed to play assa on lihuvim
odd heath
im not allowed to play assa on lihuvim
I just went assassin without telling no one lol
ebon notch
i did too
odd heath
was playing sub everytime
ebon notch
but then they assigned me to the smaller group for adds
and we couldnt kill it
then they go "well only like 4 assa rogues have killed this"
odd heath
lol
ebon notch
and i just went and changed
odd heath
I had a similar talk about halondrus
"are u trolling with assa?"
lol
I'll just send it this week
brazen zodiac
lol
odd heath
w/e
ebon notch
I had a similar talk about halondrus
i did my first few pulls
then went sub
but on reclear im going assa
and im stealing a PI
no fucks given
ebon notch
we killed today
ebon notch
depression does not describe
how bad my ego death was
i am barely a mortal man after that prog
slow marsh
tbh if my sub gear wasn't dogshit compared to my sin gear now i'd be playing sub for lihuvium rn
kindred rapids
Are we running dusk on pantheon?
ebon notch
tbh if my sub gear wasn't dogshit compared to my sin gear now i'd be playing sub...
my gear is kinda similar
like 2 or 3 pieces changed
ring/leggo/smth else
kindred rapids
or is it still zolds
ebon notch
dusk
zolds is worse on the boss now because of the health nerf
you spend less time in p3 so zolds gains less value
kindred rapids
hmm
kindred heron
followup pantheon question, are we running LP over poisoned katar for the same reason that p1/2 lasts longer?
slow marsh
PK is never worth taking anymore
oak sky
just realized our clear is no warrior buff 
ebon notch
just realized our clear is no warrior buff <:omegalul:585734084777476096>
How is your guild this fucking scuffed
All the time
ebon notch
Btw shiv conduit Sims 50 DPS more over the poisons one
oak sky
you run both bro
ebon notch
Not on nadjia
split grail
So is Necro bis more pantheon? That's what I was told
oak sky
Why does cev not run it then
doesnt he play theo
also lp is better any time theres an add
ebon notch
doesnt he play theo
Nah
split grail
also lp is better any time theres an add
lp?
oak sky
lethal poisons
split grail
I meant cov
split grail
ty. Marileth or bonesmith
oak sky
sorry you got confused
marileth is probably better since theres a ton of resets but it should be pretty close
ebon notch
@oak sky I have a question for you
ebon notch
Why are you so smart and handsome
spice spire
@oak sky gl tonight king
ebon notch
<@!240229644349997057> gl tonight king
Can you wish me gl for vault tomorrow? 
spice spire
Yes man. What is your wish list 
ebon notch
Uh
I don't actually remember
I spent like 3 hours simming everything
I guess a dagger?
hollow river
Basically all I need is a sick belt and bis trinkets and we’re gaming
I got mythic xymox neck earlier
oak sky
<@!240229644349997057> gl tonight king
bro theres no parsing tonight
hollow river
Why not
spice spire
bro theres no parsing tonight
Why 
oak sky
no warrior
oak sky
our warriors are both out
spice spire
“I’m bringing the mage tonight”
oak sky
dude
im not too attached so im not upset
but some of the timings are making me so sad lmao
brazen zodiac
gl eu gamers!
slow marsh
oak sky
literally me
slow marsh
i did exactly what i told @oak sky to try not to do
slow marsh
We had a couple pulls where i tried to greed sending vend on cd on boss 15s before transition and we wiped 😢
and that's with me playing korayn
spice spire
oak sky
i honestly might just go necro
slow marsh
RL gives props for fucking adds so i'll take it
oak sky
so i can just throw vendetta
slow marsh
I thought about it
wild beacon
biggest 🤡 award this week goes to yours truly for dotting up the fucking soak orbs on rygelon
spice spire
ebon notch
biggest 🤡 award this week goes to yours truly for dotting up the fucking soak o...
I straight up beat the shit out of them
Dw
slow marsh
no reason to not dot them when you're energy capped with flag running and boss is waltzing over
open lion
that votw trinket gonna be bis for us?
slow marsh
no
slow marsh
i inted desausage but it was an accident
slow marsh
triple ring .5 seconds left on debuff thought i was safe on the corner of the map
oak sky
mechanically super consistent
timid cloud
I really didn’t enjoy Xy’mox as Sin. Did you stay on boss or go over?
slow marsh
Stay boss
slow marsh
I actually really enjoy xymox as sin now
slow marsh
agreon doesn't have add pumpers and i feel bad for him
timid cloud
I suffered, I felt like I lost at least like 3 vendettas just sending that ish into the platform bosses lol
slow marsh
I haven't gotten to play pantheon yet so my opinion should be taken lightly
timid cloud
Idk I think I’m in for tomorrow since that fight isn’t amazing for Rogues.
slow marsh
What ilvl sigil?